Not that there aren't some great female fighters but if just kicking in the balls is all you got that's not gonna stop someone determined enough... sure it hurts but remember most guys are experts at blocking nut shots... just a leg foreward and a little twist of the hips and your kick isn't doing shit to his nuts
Even with extensive training, women (on average) are useless against men (on average). I have had a life-long devotion to martial arts, so I know of what I speak. You should stop watching the bullshit that flows out of Kosherwood.
I wouldn't say men are naturally better fighters in terms of skill. However, men are generally better built physically for a fight. A average man can easily out match a physically fit lady. Anyone who says otherwise needs to stop using Hollywood as their model.
The trick would be to get to the balls in the first place. In 'self-defense' practices you may be informed correctly about this option. However - 'culturally', men are better prepared for fights - I mean: fights that COUNT.
I’m guessing that is what she is trying to say.. what is the Marty so art Art is specifically designed to use small size and agility against higher stringer opponent. I can’t recall..
Yee but strategy will only get you so far, if your smal and trained against bug and built up guy, you might not have strength to be able to keep them in joint lock positions. You probasbly ccan squat you weight, for guys double of your own weight is ok. think of it, with one leg he could still lift you up. there's is only so much you can do against brute strength.
You guys are getting carried away with women being too weak to fight the average guy
A lot of women are strung and in shape a lot of guys are really Out of shape
It depends on who it is..
And your idea that most men do t want to hurt women even if it were trye is irrelevant bc this is a case where a woman is dealing with a guy who specifically wants to hurt her.. and won’t do fight guys off. I certainly have.
@VIVANT I think you have no idea what your talking about. Fat guy who can barrly to walk, yee avarage woman would win. You think your strong, go to gym and look what men lift. In one month as i started going to gym i was lifting more than woman who were training for a lot lot longer.
Oh kicking in balls isn't trying to hurt someone? Try it in real life and watch if you get out of it alive. Do it, I dare you. Woman isn't known to fracture there oponents scull with just a punch, men are known to be able to do it and have done it, bouth against other men and against woman who thought that they can do everyting.
@VIVANT Well, I'm speaking as a lifelong martial artist, maybe there are guys so old, so fat, so injured, that a girl could beat them up, but what are the odds a guy like that will even try? I haven't trained with very many women, but the women I have trained with were very quick and very tough and could do pretty well if they fought smart, for sure. . .
But I also was helping them out a great deal, being a good sparring partner, letting them do stuff they want, varying my resistance so they could try things out, try working from positions that they wouldn't have gotten to if I hadn't let them.
I'm not really trying to say it's completely impossible for a woman to beat a man, of course there could be extraordinary circumstances, but I wouldn't want any girl to think that she doesn't need a gun to really be safe, that she can go toe-to-toe against a man and beat him easily. You need a weapon of some kind, or some kind of equalizer. Because you're NOT equal, not even close.
If you're gonna be fighting men, or men are going to be fighting you, don't rely on your bare hands and feet or any fancy submission holds no matter how bad you think you are. Women who train martial arts are very susceptible to overconfidence because men who train with them are always being good sports. It really makes it hard for them to know their own limitations.
Even if you have managed to survive a real attack and escape, good for you Betty Badass, but if you fought the same guy ten times, you might not get away all ten times. If you were ever able to successfully defend yourself by your own skill and strength, that's awesome but don't ever think that there wasn't some luck involved also. And luck has a bad habit of not always going your way.
@VIVANT So apperantly im stupid, so explain me what i said wrong. "You guys are getting carried away with women being too weak to fight the average guy" ouh you have no idea how weak you actually are. "A lot of women are strung and in shape a lot of guys are really Out of shape" Hah you think woman are strong? Keep dreaming. "It depends on who it is.." agree "And your idea that most men do t want to hurt women..." yee we dont want to hurt woman, so we treat you with white gloves, and i dont understand that irrelevant part, that logic is so brocken.
Not true it all, I've seen men get kicked in the balls by another man and not go down, and even done so myself, personally. It's extremely painful but not impossible to tough it out through sheer willpower and keep fighting.
@Bananaman177 You can be used to some extent but direct strong kick will put you down. And we are talking about direct hit with no cup etc. But what ever. One will brag how he can handle everything. I am used to this bs on internet. Go on tell me you can also take a direct hit with metal bar in head.
Uh. . . Sorry, but even if you want to believe that I am lying, I can ASSURE you that there are guys who can ignore it and keep fighting. I've seen it many times, and not just with cups, either. I've done it without a cup, but if you want to believe that I'm lying, go ahead.
I just wouldn't bet my life on it if I were you. If you ever kick a guy in the balls, most important thing is to not quit, make sure you follow up, kick him again, punch, kick, get to a clinch, go for a takedown, don't ever thing that once you hit the balls, the fight is over, there is no way he can possibly still be a threat.
I've done it to guys and guys have done it to me as well. I'm not claiming anything superhuman.
Even if a guy IS knocked down, he can still pose a threat if you're not careful. If he grabs one of your legs, that's all it takes to trip you, now it's a whole different fight. Even if you scramble away, that gives him time to get back up and come at your again.
I think it's actually a lot more common than that. Like I say, I've seen it a whole bunch of times. I've seen myself do it and I've seen LOTS of other guys do it. Lots and lots of times. In fact, even when doubled over in pain, I've seen a guy continue to defend himself effectively and be able to continue fighting at least to some extent way more than I see a guy just fall down and stay there. I've also seen a delayed reaction where a guy gets hit in the balls, still manages to knock the other guy out and THEN he doubles over, after a good few seconds.
You are absolutely betting your life if you ever get into a real fight and think that one good nutshot is all it takes to completely disable any opponent. So I'm advising you to make sure you plan on following up if you do manage to land a good shot to the balls. No technique works 100% of the time, every time. Even 60% of the time, every time is kind of pushing it.
Buddy, take a chill pill, okay? I didn't mean to trigger you, I'm just trying to tell you to be careful about believing in "ultimate techniques."
I hear that shit all the time from internet tough guys myself, "one hit to the groin and he'll go down for good!"
It sounds like something that someone who has never been in a fight would say, that's all. I'm just asking you to please be careful, but if you want to be reckless and overconfident, by all means, go right ahead. It might do you a world of good.
@Bananaman177 it is very good technic for a woman. Actually the only that at least has a VERY high chance of working if shot out with a surprise attack. But ofc what I said in first message about it being rather easy to avoid gets ignored.
"It sounds like something that someone who has never been in a fight would say, that's all. " Yeah and you mr professional were in so many brawls you don't even consider people carring weapons, and having buddies, throwing objects. instead you tell me xth time people can take the ball shot with pride. Well maybe they can lol. Tell me again the x+1 th time. lets hear it one more time. Anyone can take a ball kick.
@filemonrunner you see human body have this amaising function to at times not register pain, read medieval manuscripts or any recent fight where cold steel was used as weapon. At times human can get slashed pretty badly but still fight head on. So getting kicked in nuts doesn't mean that he will go down, if he goes, good for you, now run like you mean it. But what often happens is, womean is trying to still kick men on ground, and by the time she realizes her mistake, he has gotten over pain and is more than wiling to fight again. same trick can work only so many times. In nitting nuts case probably once and the that girl is screwed.
Ps. I dont think this question include any kind of weapons, some of them will help some of them will kill woman who try to use them.
Agreed on the weapon. Just wanted to note that some people are trained in getting hit in the balls. I can't imagine it being popular in martial arts classes, though. https://youtu.be/5wk0ctKf-4w
No they aren't most women can't stand up to a man in a fight it's just the facts of life. Look at what happens when trannys get into women's sports. They start breaking records.
it is possible , example: if i have to fight woman who won gold medal in olympic martial art, or if i have to fight woman from ufc who have great winning record , i think i ll lose lol..
And that's being very generous. Even Ronda Rousey would have a very difficult time fighting an average guy with only a year or two of training, and she's in the top 1% of all women.
A woman's only real chance to beat a man is because most men are gentlemen and won't just smash you like they would another man.
@Bananaman177 lol ur such a clown. Ronda rousey would kick ur ass easy no ball kicks needed. If u rrly think that u can and would”smash a girl” maybe u do need a kick in the balls
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Not that there aren't some great female fighters but if just kicking in the balls is all you got that's not gonna stop someone determined enough... sure it hurts but remember most guys are experts at blocking nut shots... just a leg foreward and a little twist of the hips and your kick isn't doing shit to his nuts
The last female who tried to kick me in the balls required reconstructive surgery.
Women fail to realise that actions have consequences.
Okay, self-defence courses are a crock. An absolute crock.
Read up on the works of Geoff Thompson, and see how REAL fighting works.
This is a man who bounced on the doors of clubs in London in the 80s, he's the real deal.
The testicles are well protected by the thighs and are NOT easy to strike, plus men will instinctively guard them.
Sounds like your self defence teacher is doing you a disservice and give you a false sense of security.
No. Not even close. Good luck with your jazzercise...
No that all depend on strategy and determination
Don't let the movies fool you kicking a man in the balls is not gonna be enough
Believing that kicking a man in the balls is enough is like having the belief that women are weak and defenseless
Or a more accurate metaphor believing that watching Kung Fu movies is gonna make you a great fight
Overconfidence is one of the biggest weakness a fighter can have no matter how well he or she is trained
Even with extensive training, women (on average) are useless against men (on average).
I have had a life-long devotion to martial arts, so I know of what I speak.
You should stop watching the bullshit that flows out of Kosherwood.
I wouldn't say men are naturally better fighters in terms of skill. However, men are generally better built physically for a fight. A average man can easily out match a physically fit lady. Anyone who says otherwise needs to stop using Hollywood as their model.
The trick would be to get to the balls in the first place.
In 'self-defense' practices you may be informed correctly about this option.
However - 'culturally', men are better prepared for fights - I mean: fights that COUNT.
Woman are more strategic and if done right we can use our smaller use to our advantage which is probably what you're trying to say
I’m guessing that is what she is trying to say.. what is the Marty so art Art is specifically designed to use small size and agility against higher stringer opponent. I can’t recall..
@VIVANT Aikido.
@October808
Ah yes that’s the one - cheers ✅✅✅
Yee but strategy will only get you so far, if your smal and trained against bug and built up guy, you might not have strength to be able to keep them in joint lock positions. You probasbly ccan squat you weight, for guys double of your own weight is ok. think of it, with one leg he could still lift you up. there's is only so much you can do against brute strength.
@VIVANT Well, really that's the idea behind EVERY martial art.
@Bananaman177
You guys are getting carried away with women being too weak to fight the average guy
A lot of women are strung and in shape a lot of guys are really Out of shape
It depends on who it is..
And your idea that most men do t want to hurt women even if it were trye is irrelevant bc this is a case where a woman is dealing with a guy who specifically wants to hurt her.. and won’t do fight guys off. I certainly have.
@VIVANT I think you have no idea what your talking about. Fat guy who can barrly to walk, yee avarage woman would win. You think your strong, go to gym and look what men lift. In one month as i started going to gym i was lifting more than woman who were training for a lot lot longer.
Oh kicking in balls isn't trying to hurt someone? Try it in real life and watch if you get out of it alive. Do it, I dare you. Woman isn't known to fracture there oponents scull with just a punch, men are known to be able to do it and have done it, bouth against other men and against woman who thought that they can do everyting.
@VIVANT Well, I'm speaking as a lifelong martial artist, maybe there are guys so old, so fat, so injured, that a girl could beat them up, but what are the odds a guy like that will even try? I haven't trained with very many women, but the women I have trained with were very quick and very tough and could do pretty well if they fought smart, for sure. . .
But I also was helping them out a great deal, being a good sparring partner, letting them do stuff they want, varying my resistance so they could try things out, try working from positions that they wouldn't have gotten to if I hadn't let them.
I'm not really trying to say it's completely impossible for a woman to beat a man, of course there could be extraordinary circumstances, but I wouldn't want any girl to think that she doesn't need a gun to really be safe, that she can go toe-to-toe against a man and beat him easily. You need a weapon of some kind, or some kind of equalizer. Because you're NOT equal, not even close.
If you're gonna be fighting men, or men are going to be fighting you, don't rely on your bare hands and feet or any fancy submission holds no matter how bad you think you are. Women who train martial arts are very susceptible to overconfidence because men who train with them are always being good sports. It really makes it hard for them to know their own limitations.
Even if you have managed to survive a real attack and escape, good for you Betty Badass, but if you fought the same guy ten times, you might not get away all ten times. If you were ever able to successfully defend yourself by your own skill and strength, that's awesome but don't ever think that there wasn't some luck involved also. And luck has a bad habit of not always going your way.
@Janncis
So you didn’t actually read what I said. you got upset at what you assumed I was saying, And reacted.
Nothing in what you said is in any way negating anything I said.
I said context matters. THATS IT. and there is no such a thing as ALL men beat ALL women, no matter what. That is nonsense.
This offends you for some odd reason, so Your retort is omniscience. None of us are equipped with that ability here on gag. .
@VIVANT Well, I don't think anybody was saying that ALL men can beat ALL women, I don't see that anywhere posted by anybody.
I'm sure you could beat the fucking shit out of all the guys in the nursing home.
But that's not what anybody is talking about.
@VIVANT So apperantly im stupid, so explain me what i said wrong.
"You guys are getting carried away with women being too weak to fight the average guy" ouh you have no idea how weak you actually are.
"A lot of women are strung and in shape a lot of guys are really Out of shape"
Hah you think woman are strong? Keep dreaming.
"It depends on who it is.." agree
"And your idea that most men do t want to hurt women..." yee we dont want to hurt woman, so we treat you with white gloves, and i dont understand that irrelevant part, that logic is so brocken.
@VIVANT lol aikido is useless in a real fight
I can tell you one thing. If you hit him in balls yeah he will collapse and cry like bitch.
But if he block it and it's not that hard if you have like at least some experience - he will have zero
mercy for you.
Not true it all, I've seen men get kicked in the balls by another man and not go down, and even done so myself, personally. It's extremely painful but not impossible to tough it out through sheer willpower and keep fighting.
It only works 100% of the time in kid's movies.
@Bananaman177
You can be used to some extent but direct strong kick will put you down. And we are talking about direct hit with no cup etc. But what ever. One will brag how he can handle everything. I am used to this bs on internet. Go on tell me you can also take a direct hit with metal bar in head.
Uh. . . Sorry, but even if you want to believe that I am lying, I can ASSURE you that there are guys who can ignore it and keep fighting. I've seen it many times, and not just with cups, either. I've done it without a cup, but if you want to believe that I'm lying, go ahead.
I just wouldn't bet my life on it if I were you. If you ever kick a guy in the balls, most important thing is to not quit, make sure you follow up, kick him again, punch, kick, get to a clinch, go for a takedown, don't ever thing that once you hit the balls, the fight is over, there is no way he can possibly still be a threat.
I've done it to guys and guys have done it to me as well. I'm not claiming anything superhuman.
Even if a guy IS knocked down, he can still pose a threat if you're not careful. If he grabs one of your legs, that's all it takes to trip you, now it's a whole different fight. Even if you scramble away, that gives him time to get back up and come at your again.
@Bananaman177
No one is betting anything. You are just analysing the 0.0001% of possibilities.
I think it's actually a lot more common than that. Like I say, I've seen it a whole bunch of times. I've seen myself do it and I've seen LOTS of other guys do it. Lots and lots of times. In fact, even when doubled over in pain, I've seen a guy continue to defend himself effectively and be able to continue fighting at least to some extent way more than I see a guy just fall down and stay there. I've also seen a delayed reaction where a guy gets hit in the balls, still manages to knock the other guy out and THEN he doubles over, after a good few seconds.
You are absolutely betting your life if you ever get into a real fight and think that one good nutshot is all it takes to completely disable any opponent. So I'm advising you to make sure you plan on following up if you do manage to land a good shot to the balls. No technique works 100% of the time, every time. Even 60% of the time, every time is kind of pushing it.
@Bananaman177
Still ongoing. Even with crap I never said about betting life on it.
Buddy, take a chill pill, okay? I didn't mean to trigger you, I'm just trying to tell you to be careful about believing in "ultimate techniques."
I hear that shit all the time from internet tough guys myself, "one hit to the groin and he'll go down for good!"
It sounds like something that someone who has never been in a fight would say, that's all. I'm just asking you to please be careful, but if you want to be reckless and overconfident, by all means, go right ahead. It might do you a world of good.
@Bananaman177
it is very good technic for a woman. Actually the only that at least has a VERY high chance of working if shot out with a surprise attack. But ofc what I said in first message about it being rather easy to avoid gets ignored.
"It sounds like something that someone who has never been in a fight would say, that's all. "
Yeah and you mr professional were in so many brawls you don't even consider people carring weapons, and having buddies, throwing objects. instead you tell me xth time people can take the ball shot with pride. Well maybe they can lol. Tell me again the x+1 th time. lets hear it one more time. Anyone can take a ball kick.
@filemonrunner you see human body have this amaising function to at times not register pain, read medieval manuscripts or any recent fight where cold steel was used as weapon. At times human can get slashed pretty badly but still fight head on. So getting kicked in nuts doesn't mean that he will go down, if he goes, good for you, now run like you mean it. But what often happens is, womean is trying to still kick men on ground, and by the time she realizes her mistake, he has gotten over pain and is more than wiling to fight again. same trick can work only so many times. In nitting nuts case probably once and the that girl is screwed.
Ps. I dont think this question include any kind of weapons, some of them will help some of them will kill woman who try to use them.
Agreed on the weapon. Just wanted to note that some people are trained in getting hit in the balls. I can't imagine it being popular in martial arts classes, though.
https://youtu.be/5wk0ctKf-4w
No they aren't most women can't stand up to a man in a fight it's just the facts of life. Look at what happens when trannys get into women's sports. They start breaking records.
Deam in UK one guy without training destroyed woman deadlift chempionship.
Ummmm, no
Unless you get extremely lucky with a wide open shot and direct hit, even a well trained woman doesn’t stand a chance in hell against an average guy
I beat every woman up with ease. It's like beating up a teenager.
Emm I think people took your statement as abuse rather than self defense
Ummm, that was supposed to be the joke. But I see that one female still gave me a thumbs down.
No humor...
Take anything as literal... over serious...
... and it just gets funnier with the more butt hurt they get from it.
This is why we should start beating children again... weak.
... kinda makes me want to beat her up.
That's the spirit my man don't let any feminist put you down
Nah at best they step in the door with ad hominem and can't make a point... and they cry.
Same shit, different day.
Okay Black Widow.
You're delusional. If you mean cat fighting which involves scratching, you're still delusional.
Doubtlessly Women are better fighters..
But women also serve other prime functions..
Making men a more expendable asset..
No. There are plenty of women that can beat up men, but not at all. Men usually win due to pure aggression, and physicality.
it is possible , example: if i have to fight woman who won gold medal in olympic martial art, or if i have to fight woman from ufc who have great winning record , i think i ll lose lol..
That doesn't make the woman a better fighter if she's relying on a natural weakness.
If that's the case then I must have missed that gene
You have to train in hand to hand combat to be good, it is based on talent, not something you're born with. You have to work at it.
I think it's more of a 50/50 thing. It depends who the person is.
98/2, and that's being extremely generous.
And that's being very generous. Even Ronda Rousey would have a very difficult time fighting an average guy with only a year or two of training, and she's in the top 1% of all women.
A woman's only real chance to beat a man is because most men are gentlemen and won't just smash you like they would another man.
@Bananaman177 lol ur such a clown. Ronda rousey would kick ur ass easy no ball kicks needed. If u rrly think that u can and would”smash a girl” maybe u do need a kick in the balls
Gabby Garcia couldn't even kick my ass, and she's 3x the size of Ronda.
@Bananaman177 lmao, okay. Maybe 50/50 was an exaggeration but so is 98/2.
Lowest I'll go is 95/5. Real life isn't a Marvel movie.