For me it'd be Instagram models and influencers with no certificate in personal training or a biology-related degree, trying to give people false information about diet and exercises (and now I'm not saying EVERY personal trainer with a certificate will give you good fitness and nutrition advice, what I'm saying is there are uneducated/uncertified people out there doing the job the WRONG way and people actually follow them just because they are attractive). Alexis RenA huge amount of those uncertified/uneducated fitness influencers have been making false claims with the purpose of getting naive people into buying their expensive fitness program. An example would be Alexis Ren. Don't get me wrong, I love Alexis Ren, I just don't think she is qualified to charge people $44 a month for her bias program.Chloe TingTbh the number one on the list of bias fitness and nutrition advice would be Chloe Ting. No hate towards her, but if she's so passionate about fitness then she should educate herself and get a degree/a certificate or at least educate herself. Giving her followers bias advice is a huge red flag (coming from someone who knows just enough to point out her bullshit) And again, I don't hate or trying to defame her, I'm just saying people with huge followers should never spread false health information since it is harmful and misleading. And to be clear, she is not the only one doing that.
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How could i even forgot to mentioned freelee. Her diet is THE ABSOLUTE WORST. I tried HCLF and i was so fucked.
Bias "fitness trainers" and fitness advice you've heard of?
I've had lots of random people come up to me and give advice in the gym. I don't workput in the traditional way. I practice martial arts and base my workouts on the movements of my fight style and I do a lot of hiit cardio for stamina and endurance. Some of the weirdest people come and try to give me advice. There was once a dude who thought that you won't lose fat if you don't sweat which is stupid. Surely sweating is a sign that your body is being worked up but I could be standing in a hot and I'll sweat, doesn't mean I just had a workout and lost fat. But this dude comes up and criticises my workout saying it's ineffective cause I'm not sweating.
For a while this was a problem in the military. We would get people who became NCOs and, because of their rank, were expected to lead PT formation. Just because we go through basic training and train in the military does not mean we are fitness experts. However, eventually my command cracked down on this after many of us got hurt during routine PT. Most of the time, to become an NCO and lead others, you must have good PT scores and be trained by command fitness personnel before taking the rank, but my command was so short on NCOs that people were getting promoted fast.
Mostly, they are biased comments I got from "coaches" who try to sell you GMO shakes and contaminated tea to my community. What they do is criticizing clients' personalities rather than poor diet and very judgmental. One wrongly assumed everything about me yet got offended easily when I tried to say the fact or info that contradicted to his. Some of them are just FAT with floppy skin. Ones of the most egoistic people I'd ever met.
They are business people by the way. Not a sport person. They just want to sell their products.
Do not disrespect Chloe like that. Everything works. Chloe has gastritis and tells her followers that she is not a nutritionist, her foods are the things that help her. Alexis Renn has always been skinny and it would take a long time to see results from her.
Chloe Ting's information about nutrition is false and if you are educated about nutrition, you could see the bullshits easily. And of course that it worked when you work more and eat less, anyone could tell you the same thing. The thing is Chloe is very attractive and very inspirational, that's why people has the motivation to do her workout and nutrition. The thing is that you need something that last, not something that is temporary. Doing excessive cardio and following false nutrition advice will only cause stress to your body and damage to your metabolism. Don't get me wrong, I used to love Chloe until I educated myself and found out most of her advices are bullshits and her forms (when exercising) are just wrong. I love Chloe too, don't get me wrong, I think she's good at spreading positivity and motivation, but her knowledge is just not enough to lead her huge number of followers into getting fit and healthy the correct way.
Tbh i know how you feel. Motivation is important, but you should just look at their body for inspiration, then go over to legitimate channels ran by legitimate trainers/nutritionists for advice.
Bruh you went from “my chloe is da best” to “yea she doesn't know what she’s talking about” and now you want me to attack someone else? And bruh i never said i’m a professional, all i’m saying is i’m educated enough to point out the information those girls are spreading can be proven false.
I'd echo Freelee and her suggestions for HCLF vegan nutrition of a sort where the loss of ovulation resulting from such nutrition in women was justified as a "detoxifying" effect. I think both physical and mental health advice should ideally be followed by endless disclaimers even from professionals citing their biases, but I'm a free-market type of person. I think the ultimate responsibility has to be placed on the consumer rather than producer just due to practicality. It might be impossible to eradicate snake oil salesmen from this world, but it might be practical for me to teach you how to differentiate them.
I dont follow any of These Fitness influencers since i know the most of the Tips of them are stupid. Everybody is free to search in the internet and to find eat plans and ofc plans for training. I think the biggest problem is they can sell every shit cause of there bodys they Look realy serious. Just check the female American bodybuilders for a second, i do bodybuilding to but i know this body shape which some of them have i will never get cause of the use of illegal things. Anyway if the most people dont had a Problem with there body shape they wouldn't sell there products but hey the Fitness industry doing the same ;)
Can you give some examples? What's wrong with their programs?
Well I've watched tons of videos on YouTube like personal trainers giving horrible lifting advice. Or fitness gurus showing you weird diet recipes that make no sense.
Like there was this one video where this guy made a protein shake without powder. And he stuff it with so many fruits and berries there were more carbs than protein lol.
So yeah in fitness there's no doubt in my mind there are scammers and fake gurus. After all the fitness industry is huge so everyone trying to get a slice of that pie.
Now that's the beauty of freedom to run a business. See they aren't really selling false products, all they do is sell their own unprofessional guide to a healthy fit life, it's buy at your own risk and some people chose to risk it.
But think back to a time before instagram and all that stuff.
Many people built their bodies on diets and workouts they got from that one gym rat friend with a gladiator figure and he's no more qualified than the online influencers.
Fair perspective but I go back to " they are where I want to be. They got there somehow. Perhaps they know what they are doing." If they are charging me money I want to see some proof they know what they say they do. At the same time a world class triathlete may not be certified but they do have experience, for example. Everyone should do their own due diligence because there are scams. That's why we say "buyer beware" and "your mileage may vary."
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Top priority of those "influencers" is self-promotion and posting pics. I don't really think that people read their gibberish and take it seriously. If you want credible fitness tips go in a fitness club with competent trainers and they will make a program for you. This isn't different with nutrition tips. Some people gain weight if they eat too much carbs, other if they eat too much fat and some can eat they want without gaining a gram. People are too different that tips of a person who claims that some specific diet or training is good for him/her has similar result on others.
it's a parody... she pumps in her stomach some disgusting drink at morning (advertising) and eats in a week more than I (85 kg male) in two, according to her vids. I would vomiting if I had to eat a big bowl of jellies "lot of proteins" at morning like she suggested that in her video. I think she is advertising some kitchen utensils and foods.
I'm vegan and same, i don't agree with the "only meat has protein" and "you won't be getting enough protein if you don't eat meat". Tbh if they really know about nutrition then they would also know you 100% can get enough protein from plants.
Veg 'meat' really is the future (from my perspective, look into it), they design it and it's flavoured and textured in a way that that makes it almost indistinguishable from meat. I think it's starting to get into the markets plus it will not pollute as much (yeah/yes thats a real thing). https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-k-V3ESHcfA
You don't have to have a certificate to train somebody and push them in sports training. I trained with the best trainers in the world doing super hard core elite training by former World boxing champions they never had a certificate. That sounds like a bunch of yuppie stuff
Sure if have experiences and is educated about the topic. What I'm talking about is people who they don't know what they're doing or talking about and even people who don't have a certificate (but are educated about the subject) can point out the bullshits easily
I agree with you which is why I don't really follow them or endorse their programmes. Every person has different fitness requirements so I try to workout with what i feel is right for me and try to keep fit to a reasonable degree.
Juiceplus... classic MLM Honestly had people doing them ask me for advice, I run a real business and if that failed I'd sell a kidney and quit drinking before I consider an MLM
actually true, like i said having a certificate doesn't mean they know what they're doing. But the majority of those fitness influencers were also uneducated. If they're talking only based on their experiences without anything citation involved to back up their statements) then honestly they shouldn't be out there giving out advice at all since not everyone's body is the same.
Yea it's true but knowing a lot of opinions helps me decide what's right for me, i got a few problems around diet sleeping n my blood, more information it's kind of what I need.
It would be interesting to see these influencers in their 30s or 40s & older when their metabolism slows down because it's much easier to give such advice when recently out of puberty.
@R3DthatDude well some of the ex vegans quit because they couldnt get enough nutrition following a similar diet compared to the one that freelee is promoting. I wouldn’t recommend the high carb low fat diet for people who wanna tryna be vegans tbh since i had a really bad experience with it. I was basically eating 80% carb, 10% fat and 10% protein. I started breaking out first on my face then my back and arms, my nails got really thin and i started seeing white dots on my fingernails, i also lost a lot of muscle mass and gained an amount of body fat. After it i just quit that HCLF diet because it just didn’t work for me. Then i started eating a lot junk food and my acne situation got worse (and by the way i was still vegan at the time). Then i started eating the balance diet which consisted of 50% carb, 30% fat and 20% protein. I basically ate a lot of whole grains with a small amount of nuts, fruit and greens. I started seeing result and i started getting leaner and also gaining my muscles back.
In my opinion, it's possible we all vary somewhat in terms of what sort of nutrition is optimal for us. To go to the extremities in terms of macro ratios all of a sudden is a huge risk if not a guaranteed fail. I really think a safer route is to balance the macros first if they're skewed, then iteratively analyze what macronutrient ratios (and ultimately micros ratios) produce the best long-term effects. I like Jeff Cavaliere's analysis here that the best nutrition is the one that works for you for the rest of your life. That doesn't yield much insight about specifics but it's at least undeniable in its validity... and it encourages pragmatism and experimentation over dogmatism and humility for those who assume that what works for them will work for everyone else.
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