Are you pro or anti Vaccine and why?

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Lliam · Accepted Answer

I wouldn't say that I am completely opposed to vaccines. But I am skeptical.
If they were safe and effective, the manufacturers would not need immunity from liability.

Why isn't there full disclosure of the ingredients and the risks?

I think the pharma industry is a money making machine that pushes products that it knows are dangerous.

I have read about how J. D. Rockefeller took over the medical industry and medical schools to push vaccines. He actively ended homeopathic medicine in favor of chemicals. Doctors became drug pushers.

There is a lot of fraud in the claims about infectious diseases.

If people want to get vaccinated for this, that or the other thing, fine. But it should be entirely their choice.
In addition, the FDA should do its job and thoroughly investigate pharma manufacturers and their products instead of relying upon the manufacturer's own data.
And manufacturers should be fully liable for damages.

Zack-Bann · Accepted Answer

I’m pro some vaccines that are proven and have a long history of solving issues

But not a fan of blindly sticking myself with needles I don’t know what’s in them

I’m not a believer in something because some self proclaimed body of authority told me it’s good

I have a brain and it costs me nothing to use it so I use it as often as I can (for better or worse)

sage2021 · Answer

Definitely anti vaccine. I got sick as all get out from the 2 COVID vaccines and have never been the same since they harpooned me with God knows what! Never again

Massageman · Answer

We have a used a couple of them, and many we have not used.

Friendlybro79 · Answer

I'm going to give you extra than you asked for loI. It's making me want to explain something about the evolution of me trying harder to be empathetic to anti vaxxers.

That said, I'm for vaccines because the pros outweigh the cons with the real data.

Measles was eradicated in the US until antivaxx propaganda took hold here for many people. For ex, guess what is popping up in places like Texas in almost all unvaccinated people. Measles... It's in pockets but eventually we will lose herd immunity because propaganda is winning and scaring people.

This is just my take and I'm not projecting this as all anti vaxxers are anti vaxx for the same reasons. I noticed in my circle a pattern to which what I'm about to share formed my feelings.

I just want to add this as a way to be kind to folks I was very frustrated with during Covid. The anti vaxxers. I might be wrong with my perception of their reality but I'm trying harder to be more empathetic about it. (Practice what you preach kind of thing)

After years now of having to think about it, I have changed my tune about how to think about anti vaxxers. I actually have a lot of different ways to have empathy for them now moreso then I did during it because the stakes were so high, I had trouble. I'm not perfect either. The easiest one is some people just believe in holistic approaches and are anti medicine in general. I don't know how they're are more qualified than scientists but that's just my opinion and I'm not at all being sarcastic when I say that. I just don't know what they know to make them feel that way.

Another reason: During the pandemic experts were trying hard to prevent a spread and the virus changed multiple times. People were just scared and many people didn't seem to understand information on a changing virus can change things like efficacy of the vaccine etc. What made sense one day might change another day, and it did. That's science. Science is all knowing and perfect but it is better that using your gut instinct that is just a guess without real thought out processes.

Because some (not all) people don't understand this they thought they were being lied to or that they didn't know anything at all. When that happens to avg people they are going to be very scared and skeptical. It all came down to trust or no trust in science regarding this particular vaccine or all vaccines. It had to be 100% effective or it wasn't working at all. Almost no vaccines are 99% effective. a lot of them talked tough but deep down I think the folks I'm talking about were terrified and scared. For that I now have empathy even though I personally don't feel that way our understand why. If I did feel that way it must be horrible. My uncle almost died in a ventilator due to Covid before the vaccine came out so it was hard for me to hear people not care or brush off the science and the vaccine. My uncle believes in them and has always got them since and he's said he's not upset with people being scared. He explained why but that's a different story but if he isn't upset about anti vaxxers then I guess I shouldn't. He's just happy to be alive.

OneViewpoint · Answer

Pro. Vaccines have wiped out some childhood diseases for all practical purposes. The MRNA tech that came of age at the same time Covid-19 hit is a huge step forward in response time and safety. And it works! It is an amazing step forward in biological technology.

Anti vaxxers in the USA tend to be low IQ ignorant people who have been trained by toxic Evangelical Christianity to be open to belief and mistrust science as "the devil". They get their information from closeted internet chat rooms and are trained to reject "mainstream media" like they mistrust government and science.

Most of the anti vaxxer crowd don't even understand what a vaccine is or how they work. Their limited brains view vaccines like an aspirin you take for a headache.

Some believe they can opt for a vaccine after they get the virus. Nope, that's not what vaccines are. They are not a cure and they do nothing to fight a virus on their own. You will still get infected. The vaccines stimulate your body to produce antibodies that can fight the virus and minimize the impact. But that usually take 2 weeks or so. The vaccine must be used in advance of an infection. Your body is the only factory that can create the biologic response that will save you. The vaccines only trigger your body to do that before you're actually infected.

Master_Debator · Answer

I got all the shots... I preach anti... wrap your head around that. It was marketed as a vaccine and then it was just a flu shot. That's not the definition of a vaccine. Once I woke up and realized it wasn't a cure for shit and wasn't changing shit... it was all fake... just a way to lock us down. Democrat super dream on for show. The fact that we got saved from it... I'm thankful. I don't want to live in a world where we all hide in our house, wear masks, and act scared of anything... Vote democrat if you feel the opposite.

I thought it was real... I really did, until I realized it was just a really bad flu. They made it out like it was something worse. Of course it killed fat people and immune compromised people... It's a really bad flu. Old people should get the shots... why did it suddenly become something we need to get or lose our jobs? Oh that's right... because Phizer needs to make money.

HawkPerception · Answer

I'm not anti-vax, but I'm not pro-vac either. I'm for freedom of choice. I've looked into COVID a fair bit and made a choice choice of not taking it based on logic. Here's the facts...

COVID killed about 0.089% (7.1 million) of people globally.

More than 81% of all COVID deaths occurred in people ages 65 and up.

Nearly 90% of seriously ill and fatal COVID cases had significant comorbidites, such as hypertension, diabetes, dementia, cardiovascular disease, or compromised immune systems.

Deaths among young children (under 18, and especially under 5 years old) were extremely rare, accounting for less than 0.2% of all COVID deaths globally. The chances were less than 1 death in 100,000 children per year in developed countries.

The flu has a higher fatality rate than COVID and children ages 1 to 4 years old were about 3.4 times more likely to die from it.

Serious side effects from taking the COVID vaccine are rare (ranging from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 100,000). But those numbers are either higher or the same as the chances of dying from COVID.

So you have to pick your poison either way. Do you want to take the risk of staying natural or take the risk of using synthetic vaccines? I chose the former.

I think I'd rather take my chances going natural.

genericname85 · Answer

that entirely depends on the vaccine. it would be dumb to answer that quesiton in general. cause each medicine you take has individual upsides and downsides plus everyone has their different sort of conditions. sofor example i know i'm healthy and i will most likely survive the flu without any significant problems, so for me it would be dumb to take the risk of a vaccine if i know my body will just deal with the disease. so "for me" it doesn't make sense to take a flu vaccine, while that could be entirely opposite when i'm like 70 years old.

meanwhile other vaccines like let's say tetanus, polio or rabies make sense for everyone. there's no significant downsides and there's no cure for the disease so if you get them without the vaccine, you're fucked. so why would you not take these vaccines?

And then other vaccines like malaria would make sense if i lived in africa but i live in germany where malaria isn't a thing so the vaccine would be pointless in germany.

so as you see it entirely depends on the vaccine and the circumstances.

Static_In_The_Attic · Answer

As for me I’m PRO Within Reason & ANTI Within Reason so another words I’m BOTH Within Reason of course. As a baby & as a child immunization shots were required & I didn’t have a say in the matter like parents for their children do today.

In the days of Covid I joined the Pfizer Loyalty Club & as for my employer I was required to report to work as usual & proof of vaccination was required & hopefully one day I don’t grow a tail.

As for vaccinations I stay away from the flu shot because I got really sick back in the day & haven’t gotten it since, knock on wood.

As for the ingredients in shots today I guarantee the shots I got as a child were different & worked differently. As for today’s parents I don’t blame them for not having their children vaccinated however if the child dies from something that could have been prevented like measles I blame the parents all the way.

Vaccines suck if they don’t work or work right but if they work life is good.

loveslongnails · Answer

Let's see... Let me go through some of the diseases that have been eradicated or virtually eradicated by vaccines, when you take them:

1) Small Pox 2) Measles 3) Polio 4) Tetanus 5) Hepatitis A & B 6) Hib
7) German Measles 8) Whooping Cough 9) Mumps 10) Rotavirus 11) Chicken Pox
12) Shingles 13) Diphtheria 14) Tuberculosis

Then there are preventatives that are now available for other ailments.

Nah, I'll listen to RFK and not vaccinate my kids because everybody else will do theirs and mine will be safe. Nor will I let my wife take Tylenol because then we'll have autistic babies.

Yeah, that's what I'll do.

purplepoppy · Answer

Our ancestors exercised far more than us. They ate organic fruit and vegetables.
They went to church more.

But from cave man days right up to 1900 the average life expectancy was about 30-35. In thousands of years it stayed the same

So what changed? We got vaccines.

Now we've got kids dying because mother believed a meme over 200 years of science.

Screenwriter · Answer

I'm the beneficiary of vaccines from the 1950s and '60s and some of the most recent vaccines against shingles, pneumonia, covid and RSV. In America TB is virtually wiped out and smallpox has been wiped out worldwide because of vaccines.

Children no longer have to experience measles, mumps chickenpox and regular bouts with the flu that caused me to miss so many days of school when I was a kid. And deaths from those illnesses are nearly unheard of.

But unless more than 80 percent of people get the vaccines, general immunity won't hold up. Vaccines are highly effective, but not 100%. The near 100% herd immunity occurs when people choose to vaccinate themselves and their children. I was, I vaccinated my son, I urge him, as an adult to get flu shots. I don't know when I've last had the flu. A decade ago? And its duration was short.

They are safe and effective and medical miracles.

emeraldsaphire · Answer

Define vaccine? People treat vaccines like it's a monolith. Either all vaccines are good or they are all bad. People also conflate Vaccines with MRNA injections. To be clear I think MRNA technology is good and will be helpful to combating many diseases, but you need to look at each vaccine independently. Personally when my baby is born we will get all the recommended vaccines, including the MMR vaccine, but if they introduce something new that I don't think is safe I will not hesitate to say no. That is the job of a parent.

DryGermanGuy · Answer

Vaccines are the main reason that people get to live healthily till 80 instead of 40. I remember the campaign in primary school to get the Polio vaccine. Everybody was glad to be in an organized first world country, there were no kooks blabbing about autism or whatever.

Kaneki05 · Answer

Generally pro, covid was an exception. Anyone who denies vaccines are beneficial are nut balls even more so anti-vax of every kind, but those wary of rushed out vaccines and along with forced action? That's called critical thinking.

On another note Epstein files... revealed somethings, though I do think this was just speculative thought and Epstein being a bit crazy rather than he had anything to do with any of it.
I picture a lot of Epstein is just him having crazy thoughts and thinking stuff that wasn't true and even doing things in a delusional belief, maybe even a bit of troll making himself seem more important and had more control than he did.
That's not me denying the criminal stuff he for sure was into or his connections but I do think there is a lot of fiction blended in reality.

FunkyMonkee · Answer

Anti. at least all the ones made after the first batch! First off, they weren't even needed! My neighbor's entire family got covid and all they took to get rid of it was Robitussin CF and Tylenol! It was also a very fragile germ! LOTS of stuff would kil it!! And, I've heard a LOT of people that took it ended up crippled, in a coma or dead!! Same-said neighbor eventually took it, for some reason and, right after he got it, he came to pick me up and nearly crashed the car twice before we got 2 blocks from here because it was fucking with his head!!

ChicoFromThe305 · Answer

Anti and I was anti before the Epstein files and the mentions of putting Epsteins DNA in all the vaccines so he can live within everyone, I just thought it was weird that less than a year or the outbreak they already had vaccines, it gave me vibes that they rushed it

AngryCarl3 · Answer

I'm selective in terms of what vaccines I take. For example I'm halfway through my shingles vaccinations because it sounds like a horrible disease to get. I intend to get the flu vaccine this year because last year I got the flu and it was horrendous.

On the other hand I haven't taken up the pneumococcal vaccine because that sounds like a disease that might significantly shorten my life, and therefore curtail my suffering in the physical world before I go senile or succumb to some even more unpleasant disease.

supercutebutt · Answer

Pro-vaxxer over here. I got vaxxed up during the deadly phase of covid and here I am, alive and well, 5 years later. I gladly got that first jab as soon as I was eligible and then two boosters. I remember asshats on g@g saying I would be dead within 2 years. Sorry to disappoint. 🤣 One day, Satan will call me home, though. And I promise to haunt each and every one of you.

Cyfris · Answer

I am pro vaccine for high risk individuals. If there is a chance something could cause you major harm and there is a vaccine take it.. Tetnis. Sure. Small pox. Abosolutely. The flu, If your old. Covid vaccines for me.. hell no. I have a higher chance dying walking down the street and getting hit by a car crossing the road.

nolabels · Answer

I'm on the fence.

Smallpox, measles, etc., I'm all for, I guess.

I'm much less convinced in regard to COVID vaccines.

I've had COVID, very badly, both before and after accepting the 2 first Pfizer vaccines, with the vaccines themselves producing symptoms that were bad enough to say that I've been now sick from COVID a total of 4 times.

I've refused all boosters for COVID, so I guess I'm 'anti-vaccine' in that regard.

ɹǝʇʇɐɥpɐW · Answer

Pro vaccine. It immunizes us from disease and is proven to be safe and effective. It confuses me that there are people who would rather watch their child die from polio than give them a life-saving vaccine. Honestly should be considered child endangerment.

Levin · Answer

Who knows madam. The lies were so egregious during covid that one no longer knows what is true, and what is not true.

You can read all the books you like on it. But you'll only get one perspective, or another.

I'd say I'm pretty sceptical.

Nik1hil · Answer

Define Vaccine..

Vaccines are good long term researched and tested stuff..

Vaccine are Significantly successful products.

Covid Vaccine were Not Vaccines.. they were something messed up which was Forcefully injected into people.. It was not a Vaccine..

Building a correct Vaccine takes +10yr.. a Vaccine for Covid will Appear by 2029 not before that, it needs to be robustly Tested..

FreyaRed · Answer

Pro immunizing conventional vaccines which use weakened viruses or bacteria for immunization. Against DNA altering vaccines. I think such dangerous technology needs far more honest clinical tests because this sh... show of lies and unfulfilled promises pharma industry brought with covid-19 mDNA vaccine is crime against humanity in my opinion.

Razp_Sorbet · Answer

Pro, Because science and decades worth of data prove it's effectiveness. Current outbreaks of measles and meningitis show how important vaccinations are and why everyone who can be vaccinated should be.

goaded · Answer

Pro, because they've saved millions of lives and reduced suffering in possibly billions more. What moron thinks they're bad? You're taking a one in a million risk to avoid a one in a thousand chance of dying! (YMMV)

MotherEarth2020 · Answer

Against, always have been, going back to the days of smallpox vaccine. My family always believe it went against the ways of mother nature. If your number was up, then its your turn

Its called natural selection

Anonymous · Answer

Pro. Because we've eliminated most childhood illnesses. That wasn't by accident. Medicine is not an EXACT science. And uneducated buffoons use that as excuse to abandon it completely.

As far as Covid-19 goes, did they rush a vaccine? Yes. Did it do more harm than good? Time will decide. Data is still being compiled. Even if history proves that to be true, you cannot judge ALL vaccines by one failure simply because it's the most recent or got the most press.

Kelley1 · Answer

I am pro-choice. I want the right to choose a vaccine and not have it enforced.

Maybe_Maybe_not · Answer

Pro. I have no legitimacy challenging medical consensus on the topic of vaccines. Just like I, generally, have no legitimacy challenging knowledge solidly established.

Agape93 · Answer

Pro because there's objective benefits to them. Plus if I didn't have mine, I wouldn't exactly look forward to polio or some shit

love_conquers_lust · Answer

Pro as long at it is thoroughly tested and it brings more benefit than harm to the collective populace. Especially children who tend to be walking petri dishes who have no sense of boundaries and poor sense of hygiene.

jazzy34 · Answer

1. Pro  2. I like being alive. Plus, I don’t take medical advice from ex-heroin addicts. 🤷🏽‍♀️

4ngelic · Answer

pro, it's mostly thanks to them that we've taken human life expectancy from like 40 to 80.

Unycorn · Answer

Again. But let your immune system qork and grow stronger.  Every rule has an exception. There are vaccines I guess you should

Twalli · Answer

Pro, it saves lives. Not just your life, but the lives of others. Let's say you are anti vax and your SO or kids have an immunodeficiency. Every unvaccinated person they come into contact with is a direct threat to their lives.

Alex757 · Answer

I am anti COVID vaccine because there have been thousands of cases of kids & adults who have received the vaccine & now have myocarditis & pericarditis Inflammation of the heart muscle or outer lining, most common in adolescent and young adult males, usually within a week of mRNA vaccination.

TonyMetal___86 · Answer

It depends on what vaccine, if it's for covid-19 than i'm anti vaccine, never took these shots! I had a gut feeling not to trust them!

mrkdvsn · Answer

Definitely ANTI-VAX. Particularly because all vaccines seem to be going in an mRNA technological direction. Having knowledge of this scary movement should be enough to frighten ANYONE away from EVER getting another shot.

NathanDavis · Answer

I've been properly educated... that should be answer enough, lol

Nikki1989 · Answer

Pro. I don't intend on dying anytime soon.

AviatorTom · Answer

I am pro some vaccines, MMR for infants, and anti-vaccine for others, COVID and FLU.

WhitneySnow · Answer

Pro vaccine. I believe the science supports it. What about you?

Miristheiss · Answer

I do not care. I am against GOVERNMENT MANDATED vaccines.

Shiprex · Answer

Pro, I believe in the science humanity has developed

Xawyx-2 · Answer

I'm pro vaccine, just like that, no reason at all.

msc545 · Answer

I am pro-vaccine generally because the vaccines have saved my life.

AgentG111 · Answer

Vaccine that will save lives that's proven not something forced that's completely BS.

Staximus · Answer

I'm pro vaccine if you're talking about things like polio, but not the quack covid vaccine

Sunnyrjs · Answer

Pro Vaccine. But the vaccine should be properly tested and authenticated don't go injecting anything in the name of vaccines.

dougeats · Answer

Pro, I believe in science not conspiracies and tracking devices in a vaccine 💉

Anonymous · Answer

I get my flu shot each year just before winter ☃️❄️ yearly

exitseven · Answer

I am pro vaccine but anti making people take one that they do not want

jahaims · Answer

Ignorant question. Many different kinds of vaccines. Most do more harm than good.

LaFemmeFatale_1 · Answer

Of course, pro vaccine.

Jmmmfi4 · Answer

I think people who freak out about a little shot are complete idiots

Still-alive · Answer

Pro because im pro science.

Mike_Hum · Answer

I'm not even sure what those terms mean.

Jeff51 · Answer

I took my covid shots.

Iron_Man · Answer

I’ve learned to avoid COVID-19 shots

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