I think it is weird that people make such a fuss about whether the female in the relationship has had sex or not. In fact, in find it quite sexist and disgusting. Why not both sides virgins then - because you have already messed that up? Kaaay.
Voted B). I find this nonsense. If the female is "less valuable" because she has already had sex, then the "experienced" guy you speak of Worth's exponentially less for each sexual partner that fuels his hypocrisy.
Men like you are the reason of feminist and other women's movement because you are not man enough to stop them.
@haha_ok you must be thankful because he is just a man by name not by behavior.
I never wanted kids even when I was a virgin.
Of course you would blame feminism for not supporting that you are a sexist bigot who claims the only reason his sexual behavior doesn't make him any less "valuable" as a person (wtf does that even mean) is because he is a MALE and magically it becomes respect worthy that he is a whore.
Of course, promiscuity isn't objectively bad. Being a hypocrite who applies arbitrary sexist standards is a bigger problem.
Also, if being a "man in name" means being a sexist asshole, then yes, I would rather avoid being such an objectively shitty person.
@Vesuvius87 I don't want too but most of girls want and to keep marriage work I need to give her kids.
@LizzyP_ Then you have no idea of what man means.
@Asker now you make no sense at all. You just said you don't want kids but will only be doing it because the girl waiting till marriage want kids. Not only you're not marriage material but you're not even relationship nor even dating material.
You don't have to have had sex with multiple females just so you can "give your female partner kids". This is all just an elaborate plan to make yourself seem less guilty of being a hypocrite, but it doesn't work. If you valued virginity (or I mean, lack of sexual activity) so much, you would have kept yourself to the same standard.
@Asker you'll never be in her same standard. The only way is to have kept your virginity too.
@Vesuvius87 I couldn't wait so lost mine and there is no time machine to fix it.
then you don't deserve her and it would be fair if she decided you're not good enough for her.
So that means you are not only objectively a sexist misogynistic hypocrite, but also "less valuable" by your own standards?
Why on earth would any virgin girl want to marry a guy like you? I would pity them.
not only is he a sexist pig but he stated he would even go as far as lying about who he is. He isn't even a believer and doesn't want kids but wants to live a total lie, being someone he's not and wasting that woman's time.
scamming and using people (ex: him insulting the girls he had sex with and not even considering them humans) sounds like a total cold-hearted person... a sociopath
@Vesuvius87 society made me the way who I am its not my fault.
nope, society didn't make you... you choice to be a scammer, a liar and someone that has no empathy for others
choose
Lol! The only one responsible for your executed behavior and your accepted valued and standards toward yourself is YOU.
That's a bit hypocritical statement, don't you think?
Maybe a little bit, but it works.
Enumerate.
I think it's kinda crappy that you feel that a women needs to have never had sex before to be good enough, yet you can have had multiple partners and still be worthy. I'm mean it's totally your preference and that's cool but at the same time I'd just like to point out the obvious sexism in your opinion.
They can have sex if they want but then they aren't wife material anymore.
No, you with that horrible sexist attitude isn't "wifey" material. I'm a virgin at the moment and I find comfort in the fact knowing that I can keep my innocence or loose it whenever I want. I don't have to wait to be married off to some prick of a husband that's had his fair share of fun yet thinks I shouldn't be able to experience the same without being judged.
No, if she's a religious devoted virgin girl then she deserves a religious devoted virgin guy.
A 25-29 year-old man still wanting a girl that's waiting till marriage while you're far from virgin status is a total creep.
Its not creepy to want a valuable girl as the wife.
It's creepy when forcing the woman to wait for you when you couldn't do the same in return. Also, you also consider whores women that only will have sex in a long-term relationship and don't believe in waiting till marriage but never cheated and never interested in casual, random sex?
If her number was let's say 1 and it was with a bf (not a stranger, not a friends with benefits but a long-term bf) and the relationship simply didn't work out but she wants to move on with her life and is interested in a relationship again?
Having sex is having sex if with just one person (long term bf) or with 10 or more people. In my view she isn't wife material anymore. Even if a virgin girl had sex with me before marriage for her first time that makes her a non virgin. I want a virgin girl with no sex before marriage.
Good. I don't even want kids anyways and never wanted any since age 13. I'm atheist too and have been for the longest. Marriage isn't even my main goal (unless he isn't going to want kids and is ok with a childless marriage because I ain't giving him any kids). I'm happy with a committed relationship.
Frankly, I don't see how the girl you want is more valuable then a girl that waits for a relationship. Both of them want commitment. A commitment is a commitment. I feel sorry for the girl who get involved with and will disrespect for even having natural sexual urges to you, her damn bf and dumping her afterwards.
You aren't marriage material either.
and yes men can be whores too. The term for that is manwhore.
I'm not a religious person just use it when it has benefits for me, also I don't want kids but to keep marriage need to give kids to her.
Now you're beginning to sound like either a troll or a misogynist. You're getting even more ridiculous.
My country is an Islamic one but I fond the idea of God very stupid so became secretly atheist but find Islam has a lot of benefits most for men so decide to stick to my culture.
So basically not only are you a total hypocrite but you would be ok living a total lie, pretending to be someone you're not (faking being a believer and wanting kids) and continue scamming that woman through all the marriage?
That the work of a total egocentric person.
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I am a 22 year old virgin and I stay far away from guys like you because your hypocrisy disgusts me.
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What if a guy like me ask you to marry him? He will never cheat and take care about you because he had his experiences before.
There are more deciding factors than what's been going on with his d*ck but I would be utterly turned off by the fact that you have not exercised any sexual self-discipline yet you are sitting up here claiming that you want a virgin. That's not right. While virgin females were practicing restraint, you were going out sticking your d*ck in all types of holes... so you wanted to whore around yet you want to settle down with a virgin? Not cool.
How could a whore be a good husband and father?
How a man could be whore? its not logical.
LOL!!!
men can be whores too...
@hypno-trip How? they can be player or alpha male but not whore.
@Asker, you are not marriage material. It is blatantly obvious. You already looked ridiculous but now you are implying that you would teach children absolutely deplorable social concepts as a "sexually experienced man" -_-
@Asker i thought they are kind of the same things...
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I wouldn't marry a virging at gunpoint. I would date her before, and have sex naturally, to find out how we function together sexually. Maybe she has desires I am not comfortable with and vice versa. It's like seeing your spouse on the wedding day for the first time. What if you don't like her?
its stupid if guy and girl are in same levels in age and looks they can have good sex together.
Well, I'd rather not try to put too much weight on my partner's virginity for marriage material. There's much more pressing issues than that for a good marriage. However, I'm an inexperienced guy, and I'm not sure what's better for marriage for me. On one hand, an inexperienced girl would be nice because there would be less pressure and such. On the other, an experienced girl could teach me so there will be less trial and error, however, she won't have much patience with me becuase I don't know what I'm doing.
Worry more about that you and her can put up with each other's shit first.
Why do you think they are IDEAL for marriage? I don't think there is such "IDEAL" or "BAD" match for marriage lol as long as they love each other and want to spend time together...
Also, I think if SHE also wants to be with an experienced guy or doesn't care whether he is a virgin or not, it would be fine.
BUT if you approach a girl with that attitude... I'm not sure there is a girl or a virgin girl who would want to marry you.
A woman's worth is not based off of how many men she's slept with. Point blank. Period. End of story.
I could be by staying loyal to my wife and taking care of her and our children after marriage I will not cheat on my wife that makes me a good husband and good father.
Yes, that sounds so ideal! Also, you can exchange her for some goats and chickens if need be, virgin women will get you more.
Are we in the year 1569 or something?
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And before anyone starts babycrying, no. There's nothing wrong with being a virgin or waiting. That's not what I'm ridiculing.
If a person is being a hypocrite and wants a virgin when they are not, that is what I'm talking shit about.
What are all the girls that you've hitherto had sex with then?
They can find cuckolds to marry them.
I'm so happy that I'm not a virgin anymore so that I don't have any creeps creeping on me just because of my virginity.
That's what I think.
You are free to be happy with who you are but if you were a 22 virgin you could be my ideal but you aren't anymore.
whoever took your virginity must be a lucky guy. Was he a good friend?
@hypno-trip yes lucky but he will be much more lucky when he leave and not marry her.
You're SO cUTE!@
@hypno-trip I don't think taking someone's virginity is "lucky", it's just sex. You don't really lose anything, you gain sexual experience.
Asker, thankfully he's not a hypocrite like you so he's not going to leave just because I'm not a virgin anymore. Unlike you, he really doesn't give two shits about past partners, sexual experience etc.
It's cool but it's not my ideal. My ideal would be him being a virgin too or have done it with 2/3 girls maximum.
Oh, it's you again. From Turkey?
I don't understand how you think this is ok.
Yes I'm again. Why? I want to marry a nice girl at the end.
well why don't you work on being a nice guy and, you know, not lying about religion (I read the other comments) and considering women's sleeping with guys before marriage to be less wrong than you doing it.
Because it's exactly the same, inshaAllah.
Because honor is still important to me.
honor in the sense you mean is a twisted ideal. I don't consider hypocrisy honorable.
Deception is also dishonorable - forgot to add that.
So guys are allowed to have fun while girls are not? Ok sure. How in the hell does s girls choice to have sex or not have anything to do with whether or not she's "wife material"? Good luck finding a decent girl you hypocritical dumbass.
Not only that but he basically wants to use the virgin wife as a commodity. He doesn't care nor have feelings for her, to him she would just be a reproducing machine. Same with the girls he had sex, he uses them only to disregard them as sex toys. This asker will go as far as lying about believing in god and also about wanting kids and lie his way to get that girl... by being someone he's not.
Its easy to find its an Islamic country.
@Vesuvius87
Exactly. Creeps like this have zero respect for women. Just disgusting pigs that use them for their own gratification.
@Asker
I meant a girl with any self respect wouldn't want anything to do with you.
@Vesuvius87 I am not a lair I find it better to obey my culture and its standards.
@Asker Everything you stated does indeed matches some of the characteristics of a sociopath such as egocentrism, deceptive, shallow feeling and using others for personal profit or gratification/pleasure, one to be avoided at all cost
You're still a liar because you're going to pretend to be a believer and go along with getting the woman pregnant even when you don't even want kids. You're still scamming that woman. You're still using her for your own profit. You're sick
nah it's not.
if a man isn't a virgin, I'm not going to date him. sounds so unfair but it's really important to me. i waited... i deserve to have someone who waited too.
I can fake it that I'm a virgin I'm so good at faking things.
oh just shut up.
You should.
LOL, check u out.
I'd rather not have him be too experienced if possible. It just leaves a bad aftertaste as if he would cheat on me or something. If he didn't have many partners I'd be happier.
Some people would agree with this fantasy. Oh yeah there is even a name for you peeps. DICKHEADS!
And there is a name for people like you too CUCKOLDS!
Makes no difference to me either way, virgin or not.
I'd want someone experienced, not a frightened virgin, myself.
You have no honor.
Sharpen your honor, and then sit on it, and then rotate 3 times in each direction, varying the speed of rotation.
I meant to click no FACK
Both parties having sexual experience is my ideal.
I'd rather be a sexual amateur than be a whore.
I mean not to insinuate that you actually are a whore sorry that sounded too harsh.
who's the biotch that downvoted me she's a biotch.
Virgin women don't want manwhores with lousy attitude, sorry
You're probably from India or Turkey.
Yes Turkey. How you find it?
I smell troll again.
Your nose is wrong, to make it clear I'm from a different culture.
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