I was baffled at a couple of recent questions, from girls asking guys about relationship status after they REJECTED a guy's proposal.
A man, down on one knee, offering her a ring as a tradition, asking for her hand in marriage. Gets given a "nope". And they got the inexistent balls to ask if the relationship is over. The sheer idiocy and entitlement of some of these b...
What took me aback most however, how the MAJORITY of women actually tought they could still maintain a relationship after that. And the way they explain themsleves "maybe she wasn't ready" , "it doesn't mean that she doesn't love him"... Smh
A woman is the keyholder for sex. We get it, its up to you to decide that. But men, are the keyholders to commitment. Its always been this way since the beginning of time. If a guy makes the ultimate final offer of commitment to a woman, and she rejects it, how the hell do they expect a man to stay? Do they even realize just the enormous disrespect they just indulged in? Do they even have a clue what they did to a man's pride?
This has been by far, the biggest f*cking red pill i ever swallowed. And it came outta nowhere..
Like have seen plenty of mgtow/redpill videos, a lot of it made sense, but NONE of it blew my mind. It was all kinda expected, evidence that girls cheat more? Well, not too surprised, women take advantage of men by being impregnated? Nasty, but expected. Women take advantage of the court system during divorce and strip a man of all he has? Still not surprised. People take advantage when they tend to have an unfair advantage over another. The thing is , i always felt that guys take advantage as well in similar situations, so its just a human thing to do, no biggie. I never had a mind = blown moment. But this, this was surprising. Not only is it hypocrotical, but it also shows just how little sympathy women have with men, and how much their world revolves around themselves.
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I'd really like some help, wether its some form of explanation as to wth i just witnessed, or more redpills being pushed down my throat. i decided now to make this for guys only, since i am rather upset at the things i read from the pink side.
But most importantly vote. Personally, i dont think any man with a drop of dignity would stay with a woman who rejected his proposals. But lets see what the gag male population thinks.
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@Kkaos , @anniisa, and especially @lumos i have been blocked from the other question, which is why i can't reply there anymore. Would have replied to you all, if i wasn't blocked, especially you, lumos.
Guys, If you proposed to a woman, and she says "no" Would you still want to be in a relationship with that woman?
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Probably not, but society today I can see where women don't have men as a goal the way they used to because they already have a husband, the government. He's an abusive ass that they can't divorce but they seem fine with that. Look at the pure shit most women post on here, dick this, cock that, muh coochie , muh coochie , "sent this guy I just met some nudes", "got a new "friend with benefits". Most of these girls are prison yard pigs, nasty. They're not immoral, they're amoral, they have no idea what moral even is. Their notion of morals is how much it pissed them off that their "FWB" didn't actually like them. Their minds are so trashed by postmodernist Marxism that their just burned out husks, not good for anything , you can't teach an animal like that how to act like a lady. They're post apocalyptic morlocks from H G Wells. A whole new generation has to come up with real values, concerned with something besides what to stuff in their herpes infected front ass hole. If you haven't seen Dr Peterson's videos on post modernism you should take a look
Thanks for the link, i got slow internet not, ill watch it at night. I already am disguisted with modern immorality, i talk about this a lot, lol. This may just reinforce my beliefs
Well first of all I don't get down on a knee to propose. I just ask casually in a calm setting like at a dinner table or something. "I want to get married, how do you feel about that." Because there's too much emphasis on ceremony instead of substance these days. Any women love to get some kind of special proposal and then be a queen or princess on the wedding day but then they put no effort into the marriage when compared to what they put into the wedding or what they would want me to put into the proposal. And all so that they can divorce me and take the kids and half of my stuff and still get regular payments in the form of alimony and child support? Hell no. So knowing all of this if I still felt enough for a woman to propose despite all the disadvantages that it brings me as a man in modern society and she says no Then I'm gone and I'm happy to have dodged a bullet.
Depends really, I mean if you really wanted to settle down and have that one woman for the rest of your life then no. But if she wasn't really that special then yeah you can continue, you get to still be in a relationship that you know "is going nowhere". So you just keep her around until you find another one who actually wants the same thing.
The guys who would leave after getting rejected: These are the guys with self respect and dignity. The guys who aren't going to pander to some woman who doesn't deserve it. The guys who realize their value in this world.
And then the guy's who would still stay: These are the insecure guys, the pushovers, the ones who never get anywhere in life because they allow everyone to walk all over them and treat them like shit.
It's basically over. There are very few situations in which I would stay. You don't have to set a date to finialize. It doesn't have to be that big or expensive. It's a respect thing. If I feel like it's a good time to propose and take the next step and you reject it then there's a problem with the relationship or there's an unresolved issue that I don't know about.
If I like someone enough ot propose I would want to keep them in my life yes. You don't go from "marry me" to "oh well done with that" in a night unless something major happens. Someone not being ready to get married doesn't qualify in my mind.
Mind you I'm not the kind of guy who would ask someone to marry them. I just don't think it's that big of a deal.
If you have been with a girl for a long time, everything is perfect , then her saiying no to a marriage, IS a major thing.
A girl knows if she wants to fuck you withing the first couple minutes of meeting you. She knows if she wants to date you within a few hours. Or 1 or two days at the maximum. And for pretty much every stage of commitment, girls make up their minds, faster than men. So by the time you propose to her, if she hasn't made up her mind, then i can assure you, there is some problem. It might be something else, but 9/10 times its really just you.
If i were to propose to a woman and she tells me no then i have been a complete idiot for proposing and she had the bigger heart to have mercy upon me and spare me the hell, which is marriage. Breaking up wouldn't even come to my mind or dreams. 🙂
Marriage is a legal scam and an invented illusion of being in a relationship. Kids are an illusion of stability when in fact it causes more instability.
Older women may seem to understand it better than little girls and young ladies.
That Makes sense. But i see, that even married families are full of degenerates. I have seen some. Some of them divorced afterwards.
I noticed, that i have an unpopular opinion and when voicing mine i am put into a decision between honesty or sweet lying. Yikes! Well i think some topics are best to be avoided.
But it is really a fact, that in America the marriage laws are demolishing men. I want to see the MRA bringing balance to it after the feminazis made it the way it is.
If you're 5′10″, and therefore not 6′, does that mean you're not 5′10″? If you live in a house, and don't have the money to go on holiday, does that mean you're homeless? The fact that someone doesn't want to take a relationship to the next level doesn't mean the current relationship is invalidated, where do you get that idea from? There are lots of very good reasons to not get married.
If you are doing well in a relationship, there is no reason as to why not take it further. If you can't take ot further that means you have a problem or an issue with committment
I just wanted to make the point that there are practical reasons to not get married - the cost of the wedding itself, having a secure home/job. You didn't specify, so in general, not being ready is a valid point. If it's a commitment issue then I'd probably have a different answer.
Alright man, if a guy is actually proposing to a girl (unless he is doing it for a prank video) im sure he would have figired out to make for the costs of the wedding at least. And 9/10 guys ask for marriage when they feel that they are ready to make that step. Most guys do it when the time is ready, or at least, in his mind, things are good enough. If they aren't for her, most likely its a commitment issue. Or she gets cold feet. This whole "im not ready yet" is just an excuse.
I'm sure "we" could talk things through like adults and see why they rejected the proposal. Maybe their scared of commitment or maybe they have stuff going on at home. There's almost always a reason why
Ofcourse there is a reason. But they still disrespected you in the biggest way, and rejected you in the most intimate way. If they can do that, their love for you is not as strong as certain other things, and yo should have enough self respect to walk away
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