What's wrong with marrying a beta male?

[malwins]

it may not give u bragging rights but u gonna have peace of mind

[Electmen]

If by beta you mean a guy with poor genetics, or those awkward kinds of guys who are not disputed by other women, guys without options, I don't see anything wrong with that, but would you really be happy with that?

The alpha male will chat on you with your sister, he'll have threesomes with your friends, he'll have tons of women trying to screw you over and steal your man from you, you'll lose sleep every time massages pop up in his phone BUT your sex life is going to be the most satisfying.

Of course sex is just a minor issue, some things are way more important in a relationship than just sex like companionship and trust, however, there's nothing worst than being with a man you're not attracted to, it's tortuous.

[FilmGuy93]

You'll have peace of mind, but would you ever really be happy knowing that you didn't have to do anything to keep the guy interested?

I wouldn't want to a marry a woman I didn't feel the need to work for. I wouldn't be able to respect her... I'd get bored.

[jennifer_bloom]

I don’t want an alpha male cause a high status guy has a much higher chance of cheating on you or abusing you or not have time for you or unwilling to help with chores cause he earns so much money.

[nowama]

Thinking men are actually beta, alpha, and whatever the hell other Greek letter is used in this context.

[ChrisMaster69]

Well if the girl thinks there are Beta n Alphas, then really she needs to be avoided.

Equally any guy that calls himself a Beta or Alpha etc needs to be avoided.

however if they both use the terms, it’s a match made in heaven.

[ChrisMaster69]

This entire Alpha and Beta thing is bollox, there are people saying oh the Beta can’t do this or that.

The thing is the strongest guy who is great at everything, will at times be out of their depth and have to defer to someone else.

If you had an Alpha person then take them out of their comfort zone, say rock climbing, unless they want to look stupid, get injured or killed they need to shut up and go in to Beta mode.

Ditto when we used to go on Ops, you can have hardest person going, out of depth then they follow orders.

Even stuff at home, fixing plumbing, house electrics, wallpapering etc etc, how could a guy call himself an Alpha and then have to rely on someone else… oh yeah Beta mode.

Those that do this Alpha Beta bollox tend to be the most judgmental people going, especially of women and their past etc.

In reality humans bounce between confident, assertive and not as confident listening mode all the time. We move around Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta and whatever fashionable name someone comes up with.

[bamesjond0069]

If you say so. Usually you have to deal with the woman straying from lacking sex life. Beta angst basically betas blow up sometimes in anger at being a beta. Never feeling as protected and safe and desired as an alpha would make you feel. Certainly might work for you though, many women do just accept it.

[GreenLanternI0I]

It will not give you a peace of mind when he be raising weak children and not be able to get promotions or better paying jobs so he can get you and your children better stuff. better education, better technologies, safer place to live etc...

[Anonymous]

If I were a woman I would avoid alpha males as they assume they are in charge and theirs is the only opinion that matters - unless they can prove otherwise. They may be good at leading a battalion into a war, but not at personal relationships where the other person wants a say in things.

[Jessica405]

Nothing wrong at all. He probably is a true Alpha male anyway. He doesn't need to rely on good looks, status or money to be a great guy. Loving, thoughtful, loyal and respectful.

[hhadeshatesme]

the amount of people that believe in the whole alpha/beta male B. S is frightening and funny. Want an “alpha” there are plenty of narcissistic men out there for you to choose from

[Ms_Vanderquack]

That’s not how anything works. Please stop posting stupid shit.

[slatyb]

There is no such thing as alpha and beta males. The men who call themselves alpha are not. Marry someone you can live with happily. That’s about 90% of what you need for a happy life.

[Curmudgeon]

I think you need to define your terms, @malwins. If a guy takes care of you, loves you, provides for you, and you in turn help him and support him, is that "beta"?

[DryGermanGuy]

How about leaving this whole alpha, beta, gamma phraseology to the epidemiologists? 🙄

[Anonymous]

Beta males can't protect you or something kids. They are pushovers and make horrible fathers to boot. Their weakness will spread to the children. You need men who aren't afraid to throw down when you he need arises.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

And who says that when the need arrives that they can't rise to the occasion?

[Opinion Owner]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Me based on lived on experiences. I've beaten them to a pulp. They are too bitch to fight or to get some weapon proficiency

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

If we go that way I have beaten alphas during thai practice. Always the big loud dude who thinks the gym gives him fighting skills.
But losing a fight means you are a beta? A guy that comes to you and beats you. Makes you a beta?

[Opinion Owner]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 subbing to girls makes you beta, so does subbing to other guys. And i already know based on previous things you've said you do both. If you let your girl walk all over you then the guy inseminating her in front of you will too. Gym doesn't give fighting skills, real world experience does. And of that I've had plenty. If you lost a fight back when we were less civilized you'd have your woman taken from you and bred by the other guy. So yeah you can be an alpha but you are beta to the one you lost to.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

You make it sound that being alpha is all about being agressive. Beating up people and being an piece of shit. That's is look down upon because we are civilized now.
About me, I am a glass half full kind of guy. I don't start anything but I usually end it. I have no idea where you saw me subbing to anyone here, but I common sense is often misunderstood.

[Opinion Owner]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 i remember you saying your girl has a high body count. So you have the shame of committing to someone who's left a trail of dick in her wake. And you were the guy that decided to pick her up. That makes you beta imho. Same with guys who would go out with prostitutes and put rings on them and shit tbh. Alphas dont play into cuckery and that's kinda what it is when you have shared women for wives.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I never said that. I have no idea what her body count is and I don't care. But let's say she has three digits. So what? Be rational, is just sex. People don't lose value no matter how much they have it

[Opinion Owner]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 oh I don't know someone actually messaged me when you guys were going at it in a thread and I interjected maybe a few months ago. Apparently you said something about dating a chick with around a 100 men having been inside her and also her being an opened and avowed feminist? If that's true that makes you a beta cuck. If that's untrue then sorry for the misinformed opinion. "People don't lose value no matter how much they have it" thats not up for you to decide. That's up for each individual to decide. And if a girl is shooting her shot for a certain guy, he finds out her past, and shoots her down. Then I guess it REALLY matters then, now doesn't it? Especially if/when she's had her heart set on him. Happened to me with a girl who had her heart set on me for 3 years. didn't know till she finally told me the whole thing. I told her I knew too much about her history, seen her with too many guys, knew what was up, and it would be a cold day in hell before I could date/kiss/have sex with her. She was so upset but I told her that she always knew I was a Christian and that if she liked me for all those years then she shouldn't have screwed around. She even hit my DMs for the next several months trying to get me to come around. Sorry but once the damage is done it's just DONE. I can't touch girls knowing penises have been in their mouths and I dont want my kids coming out of a hole football teams had the pleasure of getting to know. As Tony Montana once said: "Her Womb is so polluted I can't even have a little baby with her man."

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

To clarify. I have never been with someone with that body count, but I would no problem. And I always said I am an egalitarian not a feminist.
Actually it is for me to decide. Different people care for different things. I don't care about body count and today less and less men do.
Sure some still care about that, but that's for them to decide. Just like you did.
Polluted? You know that nothing remains long after sex is done right? Again, is just sex, it's some we literally are biologically made to do.

[Opinion Owner]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I can think of a few things... STDs... mental and emotional trauma (statistics show women who have more than 4 sex partners before marriage nose dive in chances of forming life long relationships and for men it's 6-8. We aren't made to screw around like that. Basically we are designed to be able to move on a few times because in the past our partners would die from disease, hunting, fighting, child birthing, etc. So we needed had a biological imperative to move on. Men also died frequently so men having had more than 1 sex partner made sense. 1 man could reproduce simultaneously with 3 women but a woman can only do so with 1 man at a time. This was also a way to weed out the weak. Those who failed their trials and died would be forgotten and the other man who survived spread his seed on. But even after about 8 partners men have the same level of struggle as women to form life long partnerships. and throughout history we didn't just hop around like f*ck buddies and that was for good reason. It affects and disrupts the social order and now you got loads of single people today with no desire to form lasting relationships and it's because they are burned out by too much sex and want too much from others.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

As long as you use proper protection you will be fine. About emotional trauma, the sex is not what caused it. Think about it, your personality doesn't change because you have sex. If you are a screwed up person who has issues of course you are likely to have tons of sex and have a hard time staying in a relationship.
But a well educated, sane person can have all the sex in the world and it won't matter.
Women can only have one baby at a time, doesn't mean they were having sex with just one man at a time. In fact monogamy is a relatively new concept to the human species. Look at the Roman empire. Super advanced civilization for it's time. They fucked everything and everyone! Orgy was breakfast. You know when sex became to be seen as something bad? When Christianity took over. The same people responsible for the inquisition. Because it was "sinful" somehow.
In the time of our grandparents women had to marry because they had hardly any other means of survival. Society made an incredible pressure on you to get married have kids etc. Today people marry who they love. It's each individual choice.

[Opinion Owner]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 marrying just for love alone is volatile and I would argue that's NOT why most marry. They marry for a mixture of reasons. But a lot of women still want him to have good income and ambitions to make more... not love. Monogamy became important as we became more self aware. But if you dont believe that monogamy is a big deal than surely you are fine with your girlfriend having other men inside her while she's with you. Thus that would then make you a cuck and indeed, beta. I'm actually very well versed in the history of Rome. The huge orgies and sex parties were not for everyone by the way. They were relegated to special events and among higher classes. Not all partook in it actually. And even then it didn't make it right. Why stay committed to one girl anyways if you can just go and screw others and others will screw your's? I'm sure as hell not putting a check next to that. Nor would i stick around for her. She's just an object at that point. It's like trying to say taking a dump in a public restroom is the same as taking a dump at home. Well it sure as shit is not my friend.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

That was the previous narrative. Marry with a goal. But look at how down marriage rates are today. Why? Because those goals you speak off can be achieved today without marriage.
I am not against monogamy. But I am not against polygamy either. The idea that our only sex partner should be the person we are supposed to spend our lives with is far beyond outdated.
Of course they weren't for everyone. They were for the rich. Surprise surprise.
I want my girl to be just mine after we enter a relationship. But what do I care about what she did before she had that commitment to me? I should expect her to have that commitment to me even before she knew me? That makes no sense.
This goes both ways. Most girls don't want a man who is a player either. He is just just an object at that point right? A useless pre milked dick that other girls played with. They have every right to not want a man whore just like we have to not want a woman whore.
To me, and to many others since gladly that stigma is changing, sex doesn't define you.

[Opinion Owner]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 dude you JUST SAID monogamy was outdated, yet you still want it? lol no it's not how it works. The reason we have so many issues with keeping marriages together isn't because of monogamy. It's because we are in a society that promotes instant gratification and also because no one is supposed to have consequences anymore. This whole thing about "dont judge me" or "my past is my past" mentality is why we have this issue. It's a bunch of babies with no discipline running around wanting to be treated like children but also adults at their own leisure. No, that's not how this works. I dont want a whore and in turn I dont want a woman who would settle for one either. So that's fine by me. Dudes need to keep it in their pants too.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Bad use of words on my part. I meant it in a sense that saving yourself to marriage is outdated.
Do you know what is the number one reason for divorce? Lack of commitment. People not putting in effort anymore. Not related to instant gratification or lack of consequences. Specially since number two is cheating so clearly there are consequences.
There are always consequences. For example for the girl that wanted you her consequence was that you didn't want her. But what is wrong with having tons of sex and finding a partner that doesn't care about that? The consequence will be a smaller dating pool. Not being perpetually single.
I agree that it goes both ways. Difference is that for me both get to keep their value no matter their body count.

[Anonymous]

Why would an alpha male be bragging rights? I think having a good man is bragging rights

[malwins]

bc they r hard to get lol

[malwins]

or at least lot of people want then

[Opinion Owner]

What is so special about them though? We aren't in the primitive ages where the "alpha" is going to hunt for food or some shit lol and I dont really see them as hard to get, they're better than betas because at least they won't suck up to you

[t-8900]

When a dude breaks into your home you'll be happy for an "alpha" boyfriend.

[Opinion Owner]

Well yeah I guess

[FýrdracaDócincel]

Neither exist grow up.

[Msputiton]

I don't believe in the context.
We ain't a pack of wolves.

[SnakeBoop]

plus the dude who made that theory turned around and said it was disproved

[Msputiton]

@SnakeBoop not surprising.

I always found a guy who needs to run around trying to prove he is this so called alpha, to be insecure in their masculinity.

Why else does he need to prove it to everyone or declare it

[dragoblack]

"Betas" are the true alphas. An alpha cares about and supports their pack, doing what they need to to help it survive. not be the loudest aggressive asshole in the room.

[FýrdracaDócincel]

"Alpha Beta Sigma" blah blah blah "women" something something "majiik testosterone"

[TheFlak38]

you're not gonna have peace of mind. literally every beta marriage and the divorce of it is proof of that

[fred_durst]

not wrong at all
good side about them , beta males are less likely to cheat , compared to alpha ones

[donnny2367764]

Beta male? Alpha male? These are nonsense. Each will fall to their knees for the most absurd reasons in the end

[Neilbud]

if you like him and he likes you, thats the main thing. Don;t let society cause you to over think it.

[Rahul8124]

No one gives a fuck about alpha or beta..
It's only on online lol.
Marry a normal person with good qualities will give you peace..

[Chthou95]

You want to marry a mangina go ahead. He's gonna kiss your ass all the time & you'll eventually lose attraction if there was any to begin with & see him as just an atm provider

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

What if she makes more than him from the start and she doesn't care? What if he is a beta but she actually simps for him a lot?

[Chthou95]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 She wouldn't marry a beta for other reasons. Women don't like betas

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Most women don't care about those labels.

[Chthou95]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 If you say so buddy 👌

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Just look around in this question. They say the very concept is childish

[Chthou95]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 That's not a strong argument

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I can't make a general county survey. But from the examples we have they clearly couldn't care less.
I think you put all girls in the same box. You think they all want the same and act the same.

[Chthou95]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Most of them do. You're not going to change my opinion on that so it's pointless to keep on going back and forth

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I wish I could make help you I really do.

[Chthou95]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Likewise

[ODC2112]

Beta males exist only in incels' brains. It is a non sense.

[CuriousMufuxka]

Doesn't really matter to me, well unless you record video of you fucking other dudes in front of him..

[Anonymous]

Who says they'd want to marry that girl? Some girl who's settling for him as a consolation prize.

[-Asca-]

What's wrong with it is that beta males aren't a real thing.

[t-8900]

Cucks are betas

[Curmudgeon]

@t-8900 He is only a cuck if the bitch cheats on him and he puts up with it.

[t-8900]

@Curmudgeon any dude that's cool with other guys inseminating his woman is a beta though. If he's not cool with it and she does it and he's out, then his honor and integrity are still fully intact. If he's an active participant in cucking he's a beta though, for sure, 100%.

[Curmudgeon]

@t-8900 Yah that's what I meant.

[-Asca-]

I get what you guys are saying but the concept of alphas and betas is entirely made up bullshit

[CarolineW]

True - he might be a boring bastard, though

[Hangry06]

It's wrong to believe in childish names

[WowwGirl]

More likely to get a divorce

[Still-alive]

ughhh you believe in that alpha beta male shit?

[CallmeTheKnight]

A good man is bragging rights

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Are we still with this? Grow up.

[htmndg183]

Nothing wrong with it whatsoever.

[imjustadude]

I'm an omicron male.

[FýrdracaDócincel]

I'm more of a xi male myself lol

[TallAnon]

Nothing, do what you wanna do.

[Amur8711]

Whats wrong with an Alfa?

[curiosi_tea]

most are shallow

[Amur8711]

And all betas are weak.

[Edward02]

nothing if you want to marry a coward

[LegendaryIcon]

nothing

[JohnK123]

What’s a beta male

[Guardian45]

Whats a beta man?

[fireforeffect]

Nothing.

[Nachowedgie]

Nothing at all