
Do you think getting married and having kids is less of a priority for modern men/women?


It isn’t that it is no longer a priority, the issue is that it is becoming harder to acquire financially.
Traditionally a man and woman start a family after marriage when there’s a reliable steady flow of income to cover health, housing, utilities, repair, travel, food, clothing, luxuries, taxes, vacation expenses.
Dating apps, frustrations, grievances, political temperatures high mean less successful relationships that last for marriage or even stay stable enough for multiple children let alone one.
Then you have rising cost of living, inflation on grocery store goods going up, wages not going up the rate of inflation the way it used to be, housing market pushing housing prices through the roof, student loans through the roof, debt, and so on all contribute to less married couples having children.
You can’t solve the family crisis, until you solve the financial crisis.
Capitalism is notorious for selling market solutions rather than real solutions to make a quick buck off the disfunction of democracy for Americans who are sold “you’ll just have to live with it”, so we need legitimate discourse and real world solutions that actually lift the people up, not the corporations.
I think "protecting your peace" is a bigger priority -- AND IT SHOULD BE. Too many of us married too young to meet the "prime directive" of populating the next generation and were miserable in the process due to several factors, one of the main factors being a lying, cheating duplicitous partner with wanderlust issues. Who needs THAT? Nobody. So... I agree with the protect your peace, though now the pendulum's at the other extreme with the "zero identity, zero accountability" camp that hops into bed with everyone and everything, heavy on the plastics (which is ironic since we're all "Non-BEP Plastics" but then have a multi-billion-dollar sex toy industry... pfft).
While I don't think it should be, I'm finding more and more people are content with being single but I will never be content or happy with the single life. I want to be married with kids.
That's why god had created a man and a woman, marriage and a family!
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It genuinely depends on the person I think most people want kids (not all) but it’s important for your kids to pick the right spouse even if you’re not picking the right person for yourself…. It’s bad when people just get married it’s becomes toxic and then… divorce. And guess what? That’s the picture of relationships you send to your children.
Either avoid them…. They’re toxic and suck. Or…. That’s just how a relationship is supposed to be.
This is statistically proven. Apparently there is a correlation between higher IQ and more education and having fewer kids.
It's a sad state of society now where most people seem to be opting out of having children.
Yeah higher IQ people are trying to reason and weasel their little brains out of having solid relationships and building families and communities.
Yeah that's the truth. Imagine their parents thought the same and never had them 😂
Global statistics indicate that getting married and having kids is less of a priority for modern men/women, as evidenced by the declining birth rate and the replacement rate.
Not where I am in the UK. I was out for 8 hours in a large shopping centre and saw hundreds of kids
I think that marriage is a low priority for a small minority of young people, but they are quite vocal about their choice. That small group seems larger than it actually is.
Marriage and childbirth rates are at their lowest in over a century.
Absolutely! first is cost. although you want to care for the little rugrat clothes, food decent or not schooling etc.
Interference with jobs. Both men and woman affected as at first it takes two incomes to navigate a marriage let alone putting a mudeater into the relationship Housing! even if interest rates are 1% how do you save enough money if you have a paper pee-er sucking up your money Finally, sanity. Your married and it takes a bit of time to navigate the relationship of having a 24/7roomate who demands the toilet seat stays up. It's possible you weren't aware of just how meesy or disorganized the person is despite the other wonderful qualities which brought your hearts closer.
I think you need to work out all of that and more before even considering having children and by the time you decide you have ED so don't worry about it. Let the Chinese and "third-world" countries maintain human population and growth.
A recent major poll in the US showed that having children was the top priority (out of 22 life goals) for conservative GenZ men and 4th for conservative women, but for liberals, it was 14th for men and dead last (22) for liberal women.
This continues a widening trend between conservatives and liberals, with conservatives having 2.3 children on average and liberals 1.5.
Though GenZ is more conservative than the previous 2 generations, the gap between liberals and conservatives continues to grow, with conservative having far more children. If this trend continues with GenAlpha, the demographics will be substantial - conservatives will outnumber liberals by about 2:1 by 2050. Those are the kind of numbers you can't come back from.
Religion solved this long ago with rules. No adultery. No coveting. Get married before sex. No divorce. Birth control screws with women's ability to pick partners. They vote for the State being their husband, who has more money than any individual man.
A monotheistic religious culture forced people to chose ONE and STICK WITH IT. As a duty. No matter what. This made people unhappy if they choose poorly so people made careful selections. Long courtships. Big decisions. It created the foundation around duty to a family. Now that the family, home and community fabric is gone, men have nothing to fight for.
Good luck for the hard times ahead. Women will really want a man to take care of them when WWIII starts.
Many men would want to, but most women are very immoral, disloyal, untrustworthy, and only looking to use, abuse, and steal from men so those men would rather stay single than get ripped off and abused. Many women prefer to get ran through when younger, then are upset that no good man wants them later in life so they have no choice but to stay single. The men that want a family and can afford it are more and more going to different countries where not as many women have been morally corrupted.
For me both are negative anti priorities at -99 out of a -100 where the later is committing suicide.
Marriage & children leaves you still alive to contemplate the destruction of your life. Maybe that is worse. Perhaps suicide is -99 and marriage & children is -100.
After 30 a lot of women seem to take marriage and pregnancy as their top priority. Lots don't according to GAG posts but a lot do and there is probably a third group who are willing to give it a sporting chance at the pub and are happy enough if it happens.
Stats seem to say 50% of 30+ women want babies.
Compared to other past ears I would say yes because the modern-day era is filled with modern-day conveniences and places to go suddenly on a thought buying a plane ticket to go somewhere or renting a car from your phone to visit another state.
Also, you can entertain yourself for several hours with the technology we have today unlike in the past eras and besides people living in today's eras seem to not want to be bothered and stressed with kids and how the economy and salaries are going a lot of people are saying screw it they don't want to deal with it and not to mention a lot of people are lazy too which they see kids and marriage putting more work and stress upon them.
For most of history, marriage was... economic survival, social obligation, religious requirement and the only “acceptable” way to build a life
Today, people (especially women) don’t need marriage to survive. it’s no longer automatic or a priority for people that are relatively young. It's been the 21th century for a very long time now. lol
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@TonyMetal___86 hi, yes only my momma knows lol I don't kiss and tell.
Did you know you can have a confidential marriage in California? No witness is required.
Nope i didn't, why would anyone choose a confidential marriage? 🤣
Personally i prefer a church marriage, whether there are people or not, it's because i believe that a real marriage needs the blessing of god to make the husband and wife truly as one...
I think getting married and having kids is getting a lot less possible for modern men and women given the current level of income inequality for 99% of US society and the wealth hoarding of the 1% who are trying to wipe out the middle class and replace it with an underclass of economic slaves from birth to death.
Let's focus the hate and violence where it belongs for a change. Take back the US government from the 1%. End the possibility for billionaires to exist.
From what I'm seeing women these days have a major chip on their shoulders. They either hate the idea of kids or hate the idea of having kids and a man. They seem to think that the only two ways a relationship can go is either they raise kids with some guy they have to be in charge of or they'll effectively become enslaved to their husband.
Its kinda sickening
Well a lot of women around my age were taking care of our siblings, so in a way we already did have kids. We cleaned after them, bathed them, cooked for them, if we drove we also drove them to school and back home.
So I personally don’t want kids after spending ages 8-23 taking care of my younger siblings while my parents worked.
While with a man, I’d rather not be with one who can’t also wash clothes, make dinner, clean the house alongside me. If we are halving the rent and bills, there’s no reason why he can’t share the chores and dinner. And that’s really how most of us women view it.
It shouldn't be “sickening” , I think if you took the time to ask those women why they feel that way and you listened to why you might understand a bit more. But if your okay with allowing your girlfriend/wife to work a full time job and then come home to cook, clean, and etc while you also work but come home and relax, then it’s expected for women to feel that way.
We’re just learning from our grandmothers to not lead the same life they did.
@aquamint well lets talk about it. I raised my brother because neither of my parents could. Maybe I didn't have multiple siblings but I definitely had a lot of responsibilities between my family a other people I watched after (not trying to say I did more or less than anyone else) and it was a lot. I didn't go out as much as other people got to, I felt like I was always accountable for things that were realistically out of my control and I unfortunately knew what my grandpa's dick looked like... What are you gonna do?
I felt honored to be in that position. I thought I was lucky to have people who needed me and I could provide for. I'm not disgusted at you as a person, I'm disgusted at viewing that past as anything other than something to be incredibly proud of and that it was so scarring that you think "But if your okay with allowing your girlfriend/wife to work a full time job and then come home to cook, clean, and etc while you also work but come home and relax"
And I'm not trying to be rude whenninsay that this line here proves that you've gone through so much emotional turmoil because this is part of what I was saying. There's no reason to think I believe this at all. This is what I'm saying I'm disgusted by the fact women seem to think this is what a relationship is.
I’ll say that a lot of women think that because that’s what many guys expect for the woman to do in the relationship, so of course as men keep showing and saying that’s what they expect from a woman the more women are going to believe that’s all they will be.
Everyone views things differently that they were doing while growing up, I personally didn’t proud that I was constantly used as a baby sitter as well as I didn’t feel lucky. I wasn’t able to experience anything that other kids got to, I missed out on having my own birthday celebrated, going to friends birthdays, I missed out of sport games after school and most of all high school. I couldn’t go to prom because I had to take care of my siblings, no dances or homecoming as well for the same reason. I was told I needed to get my credits early on so that I was able to watch my siblings my junior and senior year. So in a way it wasn’t something I felt lucky to be needed for as I didn’t get to start experiencing life until last year.
Everyone has something they are disgusted about, yours is how women think they have to do everything while the man does nothing. Mine is that many men equate sex = love, or that if they aren’t getting it when they want it that the woman is bad.
Though back to having kids, since I wasn’t able to be a kid or teenager. I’d like to be able to live life and be able to do things since I wasn’t able to due to taking over a parental role from a young age. I mean every check I got from working once I turned 20 was taken and used for my younger siblings who were in high school.
I’d rather find a partner who would happily be equal with me and doesn’t want kids.
It’s not a bad thing that people don’t want kids, and it shouldn’t be seen as a negative. A lot changes for a woman and her body once she has the kid, that a man won’t fully understand. And that’s okay, but as someone who went through spending 15 years raising my siblings I don’t want kids of my own.
@aquamint I dont really care about much other than how many kids does she want to have, does she like me, is she my friend, is our relationship healthy? And thats pretty much it. I learned how to cook great, I worked closing shifts at restaurants for years, so cleaning at that point was practically my job. Its kinda relaxing honestly.
Honestly i think you have a responsibility to eachother to have eachothers best interest in your relationship.
If someone doesn't want the same things as me thats fine but im a very driven person. Thats a choice i make based on compatibility.
It doesn't mean that your story of who you are is less valid.
Yourse speaks to me because i relate to it enough to remember those exact moments i started getting those exact lines of thoughts playing in my head. So it speaks to me because there's something exciting about meeting and gettimg to know someone who has that much in common with you. there's a lot of people who dont want kids who think a million ways potentially. I often feel that because my life is so crazy and even though i always find time for people close to me, im always working onna project. And i love being busy. It sounds like wed be a match made in the furthest ends of hell right? Lol😂
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is many people I see talking on the internet seem vein enough that I think it makes a relationship meaningless.
That's what I'm disgusted at, is how ugly dating sounds the way some people see it. It's sad
That's been the trend for a long time. Back in the 50s and into the 60s, there was a lot of pressure to get married and have kids. By the 70s, most ( but not all ) of that pressure was gone. It became accepted by most of society to be single, to not have kids, and to live together without being married.
There are still parts of the world with a lot of pressure to get married and have kids, but you see very little of that in modern first world countries.
It certainly seems like it, if not being outright shunned. And that's really unfortunate and sad because marriage is great. There's just a lot of propaganda coming from all sides against it about how marriage is slavery, how it's only about whom it benefits, and a host of others.
Yeah, for several unfortunate reasons.. A culture of increased, encouraged, selfishness.. Where entertainment is easily obtained and people have become lazier minded or just too distracted.. A lot of people view kids and relationships as an inconvenience to their lives and drive to have careers or travel.. The culture has become increasingly hedonistic and convenient to the point where it's neutering the natural human need for connection, community and family.
There's not much point in marriage anymore, because people use it as a legal excuse to rob one another of their income for life.
The planet is 10x stable population already, so there's not much point in having more than one child in your lifetime either.
Most men still want families while most modern women do not; they have done polling on this. Modern women are the most worthless, entitled creatures to ever exist. They are bringing about the end of the human race with their selfishness and narcissism, which is probably every successful civilization in history limited their rights.
It's sad but it's too expensive to raise a family nowadays. It's really difficult. Where I live in Ireland the rent is ridiculously high. I know some people who would like to have kids but they can't really afford it. Some are opting out.
Of course, We had a baby boom generation when housing prices were in line with wages. We have a baby bust generation when they are not. The cost of housing is directly related to the birth rate.
The Government would rather bring illegals into the country than Fix the economic issues. It's not a priority of the Government and so it's not a priority of the people.
Absolutely. For one thing, depending on where you live, you now have to seriously evaluate if bringing a child into that environment is a good thing. As for living in the USA right now, there's no god damn way a good man should even THINK of asking a wife to risk getting pregnant if you live in a red state. Any complications and she's dead.
Lots of guys especially & some women don't want marriage now anyway. They feel it's not worth the hardship. I don't blame them at all.
Even if you live in a blue state, what kind of world are you bringing a child into if you live in the USA? It's just a more modernized hate hole.
Absolutely, and it's one of the reasons why today's women in general are less happy than their counterparts were decades ago. It's also one of the reasons liberal women are less happy than conservative women.
Women have feminism to thank for that.
Simple: Modern society is super expensive for everything including kids. It's hard to think about a family when you're looking at a 50 year mortgage 15 year car loan and spending the majority of your paycheck on basic necessities. I would have hoped to settle down by now but I'm really not in a position.
It's a pity you don't live in the UK. The government here pays you to have kids.
The numbers show. it to be true
I have 2 girls , both have never had a child , one living together long term , the other is not in a relationship.
For your age? No (maybe the "women" of G@G. But G@G is a very POOR example of your avg. woman).
Now for young women I'd say yes. But it's not really that they're choosing marriage and kids less as societal factors are making it less.
Definitely, and polls show that it is lower on many people's priority list than it has been in the past.
Yes. Marriage only matter for tax benefits if you're top earner and kids are just resource for the system, quasi slaves. Fuck the system
It's harder because everything costs so much now.
Rent, homes, cars, food, childcare, medical, dental
Pretty much everything is just more expensive and people don't have salaries that keep up with inflation.
It certainly looks that way. Men see women as scheming to steal their money and dignity. Women, in contrast, are making their own money and don't need no man, but will take free meals if offered.
Absolutely.
Just look at the numbers. Birthrate is down. People marry much older. Many more never marry.
Having kids is challenging with the cost of living the way it is.
Yes to me it appears that way, but it could only be a social media thing.
I think is less of a priority for modern women.
Yes modern people have stopped having kids or getting married all because of cost.
but in future this could backfire us very hard by having low population
I think for western women yes. Feminism have told them career is the most important thing in their life. Go ask from russian women how many of them want kids.
Why should we not have a job?
For woman yes mostly because they choose careers over family.
yes. to the detriment of themselves and our society
Well, duh. The economy is collapsing and survival is rough as is
It shouldn't be, but sadly it is; especially for women in America.
I’m seeing that a lot more nowadays. I’m ok with no kids. But I’d like to meet someone
Depends on the person should be a priority bc now days it’s only career first and what not
Yeah between MeToo statutes, collapsing economies and overpopulation it's hardly surprising
Depends on the person. I'm a young woman and I look forward to being married and having kids
Economys fked, what can we do
Abso-fucking-lutely
Paying rent and eating is more important
modern women dont want
Yes its outdates, specially marriage.
i think so
Evidently.
Yess
I don't think so.
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