Crazy how something normal for us, is hell on earth for you guys. I'd think everyone over their had solar power, wind power? Well either way I can not imagine how horrible of a experience this must be. Maybe now their will be changes in your state, to avoid this in the future.
I'm in South Carolina and ours is similar to yours but a little colder in winter. It doesn't snow every year. Its njust like a hurricane get your stuff ready. The thing is there isn't any plows. We have to wait till we thaw out and it melts. Sometimes right away or several days. I like snow better than ice with ice storms you lose electric. I hope the best of luck to you and yours
Your problem is that your utility companies decided they could get away with not weatherproofing their infrastructure such that it could tolerate low temperatures, and the whole thing seems to have crashed.
They did this to *save money and increase profits*. Isn't Capitalism wonderful?
It’s not capitalism’s fault. It’s the electric companies fault for not maintaining their system. But let’s be honest for a minute. Texas is self sustaining and don’t connect to the rest of the countries power and we norm don’t freeze so hard so I can forgive for not catching this. As long as they fix it so it can’t happen again.
Yes I do. You tax the wealthy to give to the poor which is what obamabiden thinking you’re Robin Hood. The reality is you’re nothing but a common thief like he is wanting what someone else wants for free. Problem with your plan is when you tax successful people they downsize businesses which creates more unemployment. There’s also no incentive to become successful if you’re just going to be penalized for doing so. The other flaw in your plan is Americans will not pay high taxes to support government bullshit.
I want my own choices I don’t want what the government provides. I believe the people own the government but apparently you’d rather the government own the people
Problem is Texas doesn't own any snow plows. They have always figured God put it there God will take it away. Heard Michigan was sending people and equipment down there to help out our southern neighbors thank goodness.
Thats why everyone should have a survival pack, with generators, batteries, water, canned food, gas for the generator etc. Then you wouldn't be without power or water.
@msc545 Its not very expensive for that, I got a 3500 watt generator for $249. Super loud of course, quiet ones are far more expensive. Louds are dirt cheap... a 50 dollar 1000 watt radiant heater (or two) will run off that generator and keep my whole place pretty warm when the power goes down.
Really, for 500 dollars or less someone could be prepared for at least a couple of days with gas, a few extra gallons, by day 3 you'd probably be wondering where to get more gas for the generator.
@msc545 Obviously more important than being able to survive a Texas freeze. They could get a cheaper flip phone too, save money... but hey it is a personal choice. I'm not saying what anyone should do.
Choice buy phone or buy stuff to be prepared, their choice... not mine, thus they have to live with the end result, not my problem that they may have made a bad choice. Not my fault they have no skills and work a minimum wage crappy job either.
@DCooper I had to laugh at that, did some research and found it was their choice to buy it off the market, rather than be in the set price... cause sometimes the price would go way down and be super cheap. Guess they never though it would go way up... bet those people will be switching to the other option now.
Your right though, cheap generator to heat might be a big selling business in Texas now.
@Dragonpurple Yup. The EPA largely shot down ERCOT's emergency request to bring surge plants online ahead of the storm, ordering them to purchase everything they could at "no lower than $1500/MWh", and make specific requests for each plant they still needed to spin up as a last resort. www.energy.gov/.../...20-%20ERCOT%2002.14.2021.pdf EPA didn't back off on the red tape and let them do what needed to be done to meet demand until a couple days ago. Thus wholesale market prices surged ~6000%.
@msc545 Yup. Government is not allowed to take anyone's life (without due process anyway). That doesn't mean anyone is owed basic necessities for life; that's on the individual. Just like government is not allowed to infringe upon anyone's right to own or carry firearms; but no one is owed a firearm.
This was a case of the worst case scenario. Nobody saw this coming and people in Texas were not used to having sub freezing temperatures. Hopefully steps will be taken to insure this will not happen again.
With no where to go and nothing to do you could try and get that Ted Cruz bod and eat about 40 pancakes each day. Smother them with plenty of butter and syrup.
I live in Houston and the snow storm sure was caos. I feel bad for the people who didn't survive, could have been anybody. Seems like they still aren't sure if the weather will be back to normal soon. Hopefully this stops soon.
We are used to it here in New York but you were caught off guard and the state is not equipped to handle that. At least I know more about what happened thanks to your post, I hope things are getting better there
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The president himself flew down to look at the state of us today. I think just about everyone has power and water restored, though I think some pockets still have water issues and those with busted pipes are now having to deal with fixing those with all plumbers in extremely high demand, as well as any damage busted pipes caused. Power/water companies tried to slip some of us ridiculous 10K water bills due to varying rate plans because a lot of people needed to drip their faucets continuously for days to keep them from bursting, but as you can imagine THAT did not go over well and the state is now negotiating with companies for more realistic and reasonable sums as well as FEMA will be covering a lot of the damages caused by the storm.....something we know all to well from our history with hurricanes.
Personally, I was without power for 44 hours and the temperature of my house went down to 44°F. Not fun, but not the worst. I was fortunate enough to have water.
y'all barely have an inch of snow. In Washington we had a foot and still had to go to work. Maybe y'all Texans will stop polluting cuz this is what climate change does. O with its Texas xD.
The forecast I read only said a low of 30. Then the week before I saw a facebook post showing -17 degree temps from the weather man. Thought it was a joke. We were out of power for about 2 days. Just sat in the truck with the heat on. It was 40 degrees in the house and 17 outside.
Correction, Texas was told by many, including some of our local politicians to winterize the last time we had snow back in I believe the early 2000's. The bills proposed did not even make it to the floor. You can't winterize the week of, this is something that must be done months ahead of time in terms of power plants and water companies.
Damn that sucks ass. I live in Michigan so I’m used to extremely cold weather but I can only imagine how people in Texas are reacting to this cold weather.
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You may be one of the few with a soul in their response to this. It's one thing if you live in a state where this happens every single year. You wouldn't be smart to not have ways and methods to prepare for such weather. In my entire life time, this is only one of the 3 times it has snowed and this is only the second time it has actually stuck to the ground for more than an hour let alone all day. Having snow tires makes absolutely no sense in most parts of Texas. Paying for weather proofed pipes or owning a plow or a snowmobile or taking a course to learn to survive driving on Ice makes little sense. So unprepared, 100%!!!! If a Hurricane suddenly landed in Michigan or a volcano errupted, how prepared would you guys be?!? Sorry I'm kind of venting here because most people are like but it's cold up north....and we have minus zero....but we don't. We never have. It is 80+ degrees for 80% of the year here every year.
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Crazy how something normal for us, is hell on earth for you guys. I'd think everyone over their had solar power, wind power? Well either way I can not imagine how horrible of a experience this must be. Maybe now their will be changes in your state, to avoid this in the future.
I'm in South Carolina and ours is similar to yours but a little colder in winter. It doesn't snow every year. Its njust like a hurricane get your stuff ready. The thing is there isn't any plows. We have to wait till we thaw out and it melts. Sometimes right away or several days. I like snow better than ice with ice storms you lose electric. I hope the best of luck to you and yours
Your problem is that your utility companies decided they could get away with not weatherproofing their infrastructure such that it could tolerate low temperatures, and the whole thing seems to have crashed.
They did this to *save money and increase profits*. Isn't Capitalism wonderful?
It’s not capitalism’s fault. It’s the electric companies fault for not maintaining their system. But let’s be honest for a minute. Texas is self sustaining and don’t connect to the rest of the countries power and we norm don’t freeze so hard so I can forgive for not catching this. As long as they fix it so it can’t happen again.
@Ilickvulvas No, if I don't like Capitalism, I can work to change it here.
@VanillaSalt And they didn't maintain their systems because of cost. They wanted the money to increase their profits. That is Capitalism.
You’ll get killed. It’s never worked anywhere and you think it’ll work here? Lmfao
That’s not why it’s the law of probability.
@Ilickvulvas It already works here.
No it doesn’t. The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other peoples money
@Ilickvulvas You clearly don't understand how it works.
Yes I do. You tax the wealthy to give to the poor which is what obamabiden thinking you’re Robin Hood. The reality is you’re nothing but a common thief like he is wanting what someone else wants for free. Problem with your plan is when you tax successful people they downsize businesses which creates more unemployment. There’s also no incentive to become successful if you’re just going to be penalized for doing so. The other flaw in your plan is Americans will not pay high taxes to support government bullshit.
@Ilickvulvas No, we tax the wealthy and give to the common good.
Again you tax the successful then what’s the point of being successful? I’ll close my doors and lay off everyone. Where will you get your money then.
@Ilickvulvas nobody cares if you do that. Somebody else will do what you were doing.
I want my own choices I don’t want what the government provides. I believe the people own the government but apparently you’d rather the government own the people
@Ilickvulvas stop telling me what I do or don't want.
This is why under socialism you run out of other peoples money and why it fails
I'm done arguing with you. Waste of time.
Problem is Texas doesn't own any snow plows. They have always figured God put it there God will take it away. Heard Michigan was sending people and equipment down there to help out our southern neighbors thank goodness.
Thats why everyone should have a survival pack, with generators, batteries, water, canned food, gas for the generator etc. Then you wouldn't be without power or water.
Yes, and everyone can afford all this stuff too.
@msc545 Everyone who doesn't want to go without power, water, and heat in an emergency can afford these things.
And those who aren't really that rooted where they are, can easily relocate for a while while a situation like this passes.
@msc545 Its not very expensive for that, I got a 3500 watt generator for $249. Super loud of course, quiet ones are far more expensive. Louds are dirt cheap... a 50 dollar 1000 watt radiant heater (or two) will run off that generator and keep my whole place pretty warm when the power goes down.
Really, for 500 dollars or less someone could be prepared for at least a couple of days with gas, a few extra gallons, by day 3 you'd probably be wondering where to get more gas for the generator.
@Dragonpurple A lot of these people are living on minimum wages.
@msc545 Yet they probably have a 800 to 1000 dollar smart phone too.
@Dragonpurple Phones are inexplicably important to people.
@msc545 Obviously more important than being able to survive a Texas freeze. They could get a cheaper flip phone too, save money... but hey it is a personal choice. I'm not saying what anyone should do.
Choice buy phone or buy stuff to be prepared, their choice... not mine, thus they have to live with the end result, not my problem that they may have made a bad choice. Not my fault they have no skills and work a minimum wage crappy job either.
@Dragonpurple The 4 figure electric bills people are seeing from the spike in rates also puts the cost of a basic backup generator in perspective.
@DCooper I had to laugh at that, did some research and found it was their choice to buy it off the market, rather than be in the set price... cause sometimes the price would go way down and be super cheap. Guess they never though it would go way up... bet those people will be switching to the other option now.
Your right though, cheap generator to heat might be a big selling business in Texas now.
@Dragonpurple Yup. The EPA largely shot down ERCOT's emergency request to bring surge plants online ahead of the storm, ordering them to purchase everything they could at "no lower than $1500/MWh", and make specific requests for each plant they still needed to spin up as a last resort. www.energy.gov/.../...20-%20ERCOT%2002.14.2021.pdf
EPA didn't back off on the red tape and let them do what needed to be done to meet demand until a couple days ago. Thus wholesale market prices surged ~6000%.
We still have a right to life
@msc545 Yup. Government is not allowed to take anyone's life (without due process anyway). That doesn't mean anyone is owed basic necessities for life; that's on the individual. Just like government is not allowed to infringe upon anyone's right to own or carry firearms; but no one is owed a firearm.
Yeah, here in Canada it's usually cold so I guess I'm used to it, although it's 34° tonight which is pretty warm for here anyway.
I do sympathize with you Texans though, I've heard that your infrastructure isn't designed for cold temperatures.
This was a case of the worst case scenario. Nobody saw this coming and people in Texas were not used to having sub freezing temperatures. Hopefully steps will be taken to insure this will not happen again.
With no where to go and nothing to do you could try and get that Ted Cruz bod and eat about 40 pancakes each day. Smother them with plenty of butter and syrup.
I live in Houston and the snow storm sure was caos. I feel bad for the people who didn't survive, could have been anybody. Seems like they still aren't sure if the weather will be back to normal soon. Hopefully this stops soon.
We are used to it here in New York but you were caught off guard and the state is not equipped to handle that. At least I know more about what happened thanks to your post, I hope things are getting better there
The president himself flew down to look at the state of us today. I think just about everyone has power and water restored, though I think some pockets still have water issues and those with busted pipes are now having to deal with fixing those with all plumbers in extremely high demand, as well as any damage busted pipes caused. Power/water companies tried to slip some of us ridiculous 10K water bills due to varying rate plans because a lot of people needed to drip their faucets continuously for days to keep them from bursting, but as you can imagine THAT did not go over well and the state is now negotiating with companies for more realistic and reasonable sums as well as FEMA will be covering a lot of the damages caused by the storm.....something we know all to well from our history with hurricanes.
Oh ok, I guess there will be a lot of work for contractors down there now and hopefully fema pays for it
Personally, I was without power for 44 hours and the temperature of my house went down to 44°F. Not fun, but not the worst. I was fortunate enough to have water.
y'all barely have an inch of snow. In Washington we had a foot and still had to go to work. Maybe y'all Texans will stop polluting cuz this is what climate change does. O with its Texas xD.
I was born for this. I love the cold and want the cold to stay. Texas need more of this weather lol
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Welcome to Pennsylvania!!! Or anywhere up North or any region who can get hammered with snow!
Wasn't Texas told to winterize because of the approaching storms but chose not to?
The forecast I read only said a low of 30. Then the week before I saw a facebook post showing -17 degree temps from the weather man. Thought it was a joke. We were out of power for about 2 days. Just sat in the truck with the heat on. It was 40 degrees in the house and 17 outside.
Correction, Texas was told by many, including some of our local politicians to winterize the last time we had snow back in I believe the early 2000's. The bills proposed did not even make it to the floor. You can't winterize the week of, this is something that must be done months ahead of time in terms of power plants and water companies.
Damn that sucks ass. I live in Michigan so I’m used to extremely cold weather but I can only imagine how people in Texas are reacting to this cold weather.
You may be one of the few with a soul in their response to this. It's one thing if you live in a state where this happens every single year. You wouldn't be smart to not have ways and methods to prepare for such weather. In my entire life time, this is only one of the 3 times it has snowed and this is only the second time it has actually stuck to the ground for more than an hour let alone all day. Having snow tires makes absolutely no sense in most parts of Texas. Paying for weather proofed pipes or owning a plow or a snowmobile or taking a course to learn to survive driving on Ice makes little sense. So unprepared, 100%!!!! If a Hurricane suddenly landed in Michigan or a volcano errupted, how prepared would you guys be?!? Sorry I'm kind of venting here because most people are like but it's cold up north....and we have minus zero....but we don't. We never have. It is 80+ degrees for 80% of the year here every year.
Yeah that sucks.
What you call a storm we in Ohio call "February " lol enjoy
Here in Alaska we call that Tuesday
@SlightlyEccentric lol 1-2 inches of snow
Ok now try doing the same the power goes out for days but the temp drops into the -30s.
Now do people believe in global warming, and that people are doing it to our planet and that trump didn't do ANYTHING to fix it