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Don't front man, everyone has things they value, whether it's objects, or values. If you don't have the money for something, don't do it. I got many people under my thumb fronting to them when I knew they couldn't afford it. Generally that's more effective with opiates or coke though.
Time comes to get more and you say well, that car looks mighty fine, computer, watch, you owe me a favor, fucking do it. Give them a little taste to keep the withdrawal away and they're basically your slave from that point on.
In your case, being a woman, you have an inherent currency you're going to be asked to pay with, which would be your body. Whether it's being sold to someone else or pleasing me, that's the angle I'd take. Cash is a constant value, if someone is stupid enough to make a trade without asking what they're trading, I'm taking so much more than the cash value.
Anyway, when I was in the game I stayed clean, independent, and out of other people's BS by never fronting myself. You're fronting and not agreeing on a value or time frame, pay it back now and get out of that debt or you're going to be stuck. Have you even asked what the interest is or the penalty for not paying?
Thank you for sharing.. So I'm guessing you used to/still do this sort of stuff? š®š®
I'm not aware of any interest and we never discussed penalties for not paying.
I used to, and was very successful in my teens and later. Fronting is how you keep your subordinates in line and diversify. That and brutal reminders of what happens if they wanted to act like I owed them anything rather than the other way around.
People who pay up front pay less, and enjoy more respect and privileges like buying in bulk and moving up the ladder. Everyone who fronted I immediately viewed as a tool rather than a person. Selling is a business, or you're a terrible salesman.
Borrow cash from a friend or family member with set terms on the interest and penalties, pay him back as soon as you can, and only buy what you can afford. I'm a real friendly guy, but business is business. I really only got out of it because I wanted a degree, career, family, and selling directly conflicts with living a square life. It also tends to shorten your lifespan.
You are naive, so learn from it. You don't get something for nothing from strangers. The more you get, the more you're going to have to give. You're a woman, and your body has more value than the weed. In my case I'd ramp it up to pimping you out. First get you to strip (I guess today's equivalent would be cam modelling), get you into harder drugs, then you're never touching your money and I'm giving you 100-300 bucks worth every couple days to rake in a grand or two.
You'd probably burn out and be useless quick, but I'd still turn a profit until you did. Who knows, maybe he's simply interested in you though. Either way, lack of money or equity, your body is what's left to pay with.
That's insane š®š®š©š©
Not at all, that's business. Insanity is thinking actions don't have consequences. It's easy to take advantage of someone in your debt. If they're doing drugs and relying on you for them it's ludicrously easy as it isn't like going to the cops is an option.
What are you going to do if he does collect on that ass? Honestly what room do you even have to complain as you never even asked the price in the first place.
Wdym never asked the price? I thought the price would be what I borrowed in Weed, correct? And I'm not sure what I'd do if he wanted to collect... Ask him for more time?
Weed isn't a currency, price fluctuates customer to customer, day to day. If you never agreed on a price, interest and a time frame, your debt is whatever he says it is. You never asked the price of what you were "borrowing". It's a little late to un-smoke it now, and no dealer accepts refunds anyway.
I highly doubt weed is all he sells. I never cared if someone owed me money for weed, coke, pills, whatever. A debt is a debt, and if they don't want to be specific about it, I'm going to be liberal in my interpretation. You only front to people if they have some other way to pay you back, a car, a house, rich parents, a hot body, the ability to sell but not to save money, so on and so forth.
You still aren't getting the point. Get square with that money and don't accept what you can't afford unless you're comfortable at least with the idea of fucking him for it. At this point you aren't being naive, but willfully ignorant. You had to know that was a possibility when you started "borrowing" with no intention or ability to pay back. Just hope he likes blowjobs and not raw as you likely aren't the only girl in a similar bind right now.
Anyway, when you're getting your money together, figure your debt is going to be higher than market value. Otherwise you're always going to be on the hook for some point of pride that you know more about the price of drugs than the person you bought them from on credit.
Weed isn't the only thing he sells I don't think, but I've only touched weed.
I'm not trying to be ignorant and I'm sorry if it seems I am. I am listening to you and I appreciate your advice.
I didn't think this would be something that could happen when I borrowed weed from him (especially since he was offering it), and I have intentions to pay it back although I didn't know there could be interest š®š®
I voted accidently, don't ever owe money to a dealer unless you can pay it, first, when I was a dealer I never let anyone owe money, you pay up front and that's That, unless they are a friend of course sometimes I gave them for free and whatnot but if they are letting you pay it off it's probably cause you are a chick, but where I'm from dealers use their clout to get laid with women, if it's maybe free weed or they roll up with the person and put them on, but when it comes to owing money to a dealer, I wouldn't recommend falling in dept with drug dealers as they can make you pay up other ways, every heard of booty payments? This is when you have sex as a payment which has happened a lot where I am, for safety I'd say always have the money up front, mostly recommended in cash as it's untraceable and it's harder to get finessed
Omfg that's horrible! Do they really do that? š©š©š©
Thank you
Never borrow or steal from a dealer. Thatās a good way to end up kidnapped, raped, robbed, indebted or killed.
I don't think my dealer would do that, he seems like a pretty chill guy š®š® I think it is probably best to avoid borrowing I guess to be safe. And I'd never steal, I'm not like that š®
Thank you for the advice š
All dealers seem "chill".
Until they're not.
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Never done that but I know that even on any item or situation, I never like to be in debt to someone, so I always stick to only getting what I can afford. I have had friends and fellow students who were sketchy say that I could borrow items but they would expect payment later on, the key part being they never stated how much, they didn't say it would be the same as the day we agreed, so I knew that borrowing things puts me in a dangerous position of owing someone something and them having the ability to increase the debt I owe them.
The best option is to always only get what you can with you have at the given moment, never let yourself be indebted to someone else.
While I did read some of your replies saying your dealer is chill and likely would not be that dangerous regarding debt, I also do agree I have friends who are constantly in debt to someone and the other is very chill about it because they know that friend is a regular customer or because they are good friends, some people are more willing to go for that kind of thing, being in debt to someone that is, but I just cannot ever bring myself to trust someone with that.
Thank you for answering and understanding šš I don't believe my dealer would be horrible like some of these people are saying š®
Then you could be okay, but it is still safer to not be owing people things :)
Rather grow your own 🙂
I'd be more than happy to teach you how to do it from seed up until the curing process.
Or make friends with some people who share your interests. People who smoke weed are some of the most generous people out there.
But, in my opinion, anybody who gives you weed on credit is a shady person and they're never looking to have your best interests in mind.
You're young and really pretty and they'll probably see you as an easy target, so just be careful with those types, my little friend
Thank you for your advice š I can't grow it as I live with my parents, don't know how to get seeds and it's illegal as š®š®
Although I am confused about something you said. People who smoke weed are generous but people who give weed out on credit are shady. My dealer smokes weed and is pretty chill from what I can tell. Maybe he's just generous? Or you don't think so?
Nah.. People like that always seem chill and what they do is they wait until you've built up so much debt before asking all of their money back in one installment..
They want to come across like they are your friend, but they really just want to make misuse of you.
So we're not allowed to send you cannabis seeds to Australia?
Another thing you can do is check the weed you are being supplied with.. Lots of times the dealers give you weed with seed in it.. This is indicative to outdoor weed because pollination can occur if there is one male plant in the vicinity.
Those seeds you can plant. We call it bagseed..
Those seeds have the potential of being either male or female or hermi.
Males are useless, so you throw them away lol..
Females are the ones you smoke.. Those buds.
A hermi is just a confused plant lol.. It's a female that ended up stressing and turning male in order to pollinate itself in order to survive..
Anyway.. I don't wanna bore you too much š
Just know that if we warn you about "shady people", it's because we care about you and we don't do it to sound preachy š
Yeah that's illegal I'm pretty sure šš
And thank you, I appreciate it
I don't borrow weed and I don't recommend it. From your last question I'm the one who told you about the THC vape. The reason why I wouldn't buy or borrow this from a dealer is bc there are more than one type of oil base used for this type. I buy mine from a dispensary bc they sell the kind that's easy for your body to absorb. The cheaper oils sold by sketchier people (if smoked too much) won't be easy for your body to absorb. These are the few stories you hear on the news about people needing lung transplants.
I'm not sure for the rest but be careful. The dealers whole business is to make sure you come back and buy more.
I see your point but unfortunately we don't have dispensaries in Australia šš and I don't mind going back to get more weed šš
I would for sure not recommend it unless it's a close friend you've known for a while. It'll end up getting you in some type of bullshit. Just pay it back and don't do it in the future. Although sometimes a dealer will hook up a cute girl and not bother you about it, but ya know, I'm not a cute girl so I don't know lol
Thanks for your opinion. I don't know the guy that well so I think you may be right in just paying him back and not do it again, although he seems like a pretty chill guy.
Yeah just don't do it. Don't be naive it can get you in trouble. A friend of mine was dry so he sent me someone's number to buy from and said "He's a homie, real chill you'll like him", long story short I made the slightest joke and the dude tried to stab me. Drug dealers are crazy
Omfg that's crazy! š©š©
Thanks, I will
Itās my general opinion you buy things you have the money for. Havenāt you heard the saying ādonāt count your chickens before they hatchā? Well the meaning of it really applies here... if you donāt yet have the money then you, currently, do not have the money... thereās no guarantee youāll even be alive to pay this person back so just wait and buy it when you do have the money.
Thanks for the advice š although if I'm not even alive to pay them back then paying them back may be the least of my issues šš
I would think drug dealers are not the sort of people you wanna get caught "owing" something. But if they're just involved in weed, then maybe the occasional IOU is okay. Still, if I WERE to buy weed from a dealer, I'd pay up front in full just so I know our business together is concluded then and there. I don't like owing my own family members money, let alone some dodgy dealer.
Thank you for the advice š I knows he sells other stuff too but I haven't had any of it.
Yeah just remember, he's not your friend, he's looking out for his bottom line. By all means you can be friendly and all, but never forget what his endgame is.
I guess that's right, thank you š
Just as long as you pay them back within a reasonable time , and pay them before you ask for more , itās respectful to do that and when you do that the dealer wonāt have a problem fronting you it cuz he knows you are reliable and he can trust you
Thank you for your advice! šš I haven't payed him back yet but I will.
I wouldn't. There aren't a lot of happy endings when the story starts with "so I owed my dealer some money..."
I guess there isn't but I plan on paying him back though. And he seems pretty chill tbh
I knew one girl who fronted and got roped in as a courier. She skipped out on a run with cash and E, 7k rip off. Word came down the line she had a hit on her. I liked her and she didn't rip me off, so I slapped some sense into her, got her to call her mom and leave town on the soonest flight out.
They were pretty chill guys...
That doesn't sound chill š
Well not sure about American dealers but if anything like myself then well here how it works,
Am more than happy to keep giving you tick and we don't forget, we let tick build up then when we know you not able to pay the full amount back in one go, this is when you will be told need payment.
And we do it to the absolute stunning and beautiful and sexy girls, like you for a reason, one you can't pay off you will become the bitch and whore and you will be pimped by me and will have to fuck your debt away, witch will take a very long time and will be so meany men who have you, but your debt will never be paid off
Omfg are you serious? That's horrible! š©š©
by the way I'm in Australia
Well yes it how it works
Near my dad's place there are like so many areas where it's grown, it's very common to buy shit like that there, that place isn't fucked up tho its just legal there but even 14 year olds are into that so I don't know but yeah i have cuz why not.
So you've borrowed weed with no issues?
Thanks for sharing
@Twilight_Angel I've borrowed a few times but only if they were my actual friend or if I've known then for a while. That way I wouldn't have to worry about owing them. In your case it looks like you would have to ow him and if you can't pay up he will expect you to pay in other means ie: either Fuck him til he is satisfied or blow him more til he is satisfied. That's what happens when you owe a drug dealer and can't pay up.
It sure did not take you long to go from just trying it to wanting to get in the hole to some dealer so you can smoke it some more. Just sayin'.
Well I did say in the title I have only recently started smoking it. And wdym? I'm not going "in the hole with some dealer," he's offered it to me on tick a couple times which I accepted which I'm now asking questions about.
I wouldn't, someone willing to sell it under the radar already makes them shady enough, and what happens if they want to collect and you dont have it?
It does sound bad when you put it that way but I think he's a pretty chill guy. If he wants to collect and I don't have it I'm sure my dealer may be willing to wait
That's true, I guess it's not a good idea to keep anyone money. And you wouldn't trust any dealer you've met? (Sounds like you met a few)
I've always stayed away from that kind of thing and you should too. You're on the wrong track.
Thank you for the advice š
I don't want thank you. You don't hurt yourself
I won't
So? š¤
I'll be careful and avoid borrowing weed
I hope
I definitely wouldn't owe a dealer ever.
Why not?
Or worse?
That's horrible! š©š© Thank you for the advice
I donāt borrow weed and barely use it.
Thank you for your input regardless š
Your welcome hun āŗļø
I do not recommend princess
Any particular reason why?
Isn't it harmful to health? :) Or is it legal?
Umm weed in general here isn't legal š®
Then I wouldn't recommend :)
Don't tick off the dude you get your weed from.
So I should tick weed off the guy I don't get weed from?
Lol. No. No one
That is dangerous
He's a pretty chill guy although everyone on here seems to think it's dangerous too
Okay. Do whatever you want to do.
I wasn't saying that...
I think you must stop smoking
Why's that?
It's bullshit to borrow weed from a dealer. He wants to take you down and he'll make you addicted to him.
Umm wdym?
I mean you should stop doing this
I don't think he's trying to take me down or whatever cause I'm going to pay him back
You don't buy something if you don't have money to pay
I'll have the money soon hopefully and he offered it to me
How will you get money
I'll figure it out
How?
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