What's a psychological trick that you've learned that blew your mind?

[Mellifluous_]

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[JustiReno]

Maybe mirror nuerons… or…

If you look for quarters 🪙on the ground you will find more quarters on the ground then if you weren’t looking 🤯

https://www.youtube.com/embed/l7AWnfFRc7g

Short book good read: https://www.amazon.com/Illuminati-Papers-Robert-Anton-Wilson/dp/1579510027/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=2BWUZT18SNNP1&keywords=robert+anton+illuminati+papers&qid=1647459361&sprefix=robert+anton+illumanati+papers%2Caps%2C138&sr=8-1

[Sonorous]

That many people respond better when you emphasize a slightly lower status to theirs when around them:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/bnZQB9hnOh4

[Sonorous]

Now that fact alone didn't blow my mind. But rather, the many ways that it can be conveyed. And the biggest thing to think about is nonverbal communication. When you alter that, it can completely change our perception of someone's intentions. Which is scary.

[JayParris]

If you think about it, this is exactly the basis for "good manners". You simply act like you're a lesser status.

[Sonorous]

@JayParris - And the danger of morality is when it's not rationally challenged. So people can easily twist it to harm their own group. And the power dynamic (& probably fact that they're benefitting from the more powerful apes) causes most to just accept, conform, & religiously follow it.

Now I disagree with the "basis" part. Mainly because I believe we establish morality to feel like we're more superior than other primates.

But I think we can both agree that it is a way of discriminating.

[JayParris]

I don't think it's dangerous at all. It's just being humble. The dangerous people are the ones who elevate themselves to a position of power over others (and you can usually tell, because they have terrible manners). They take the humility of others as validation of their feelings of superiority. And of course, the superior person doesn't need manners because there's no need to act like they're below you.

There was an experiment done on police personnel a while back where they split them into two groups; some were jailers, and the others were the inmates. Even though they knew they were peers, the "jailers" treated the "inmates" horribly and the experiment had to be stopped. Put anyone in a position of power over another, and that power will be abused.

That's why it's important to drop the manners when someone's being rude. You don't let that sense of superiority go unchecked.

[Sonorous]

Oh yeah, I heard about that experiment. And I agree with a lot of what you say. But I think that morality can be interpreted as both dangerous & not dangerous. Assuming a moral belief isn't extreme, I believe it can go both ways. Just depends on how it's being interpreted. And what the preference is for the person that's interpreting it.

But that example is a good one to show the extreme aspect of morality. The jailers probably think they have good morals. But those who are on the receiving end of the punishment would probably agree that they aren't good morals. Then, the average person probably wouldn't care as much since it's not happening to non-criminals.

Of course, in the objective world, nothing is bad or good. But since morality wouldn't exist if we didn't, it's tied to us. Making me believe that it has that yin/yang aspect. A necessary perceived bad & good in order to create & maintain whatever this place is.

And as for the dropping manners bit, I think it should depend on the situation & especially what the specific manners are. Personally, I prefer to drop the manners when the other person goes to very dangerous extremes. Like extremes that force me to defend my wellbeing. But if I don't have to defend my wellbeing, then I prefer to keep the manners. Not the kiss their ass kind of manners. But the civilized ones that maintain peace. The ones that aren't aggressive.

[Sonorous]

Assuming a moral belief isn't extreme, I believe it can generally* go both ways.

[JayParris]

I highly doubt that you really believe all morality is subjective. Most people I've met with this view see morality from a "spider vs fly" frame of reference. Once that viewpoint is expanded out to at least the community scale, the objectivity of morality starts becoming more obvious

[Sonorous]

My point of view on it is that we're social animals that require morality in order to survive. I believe that morality is fully subjective because our brains are responsible for producing the illusion. Our perception of good & evil are determined by the chemicals in our brain & its perception of reality. Like what could harm our being, stop us from being able to survive, procreate, have positive emotions, etc.

Now I do think the effects of morality can be objectively seen, as we are objective beings creating that link. But I think that it is a byproduct of evolving to have consciousness & being forced to socialize in order to thrive.

And that if any animal like ourselves were to lose consciousness, we'd lose the byproduct of it. So I believe we'd lose morality.

But of course, I'm not closed off to a different interpretation. If I see it as accurate enough, it could challenge my current map

[Chlo3_2001]

I don't know about a great trick but at an old job I had for four years I worked as a barista and if I got a customer who was rude and arrogant towards me I used to look them up and down and say "Mm, was that coffee with skim milk?" Or if I get a really toxic and aggressive guy I'd say "You seem like an oat milk person" 🤭 Sometimes it humbled them.

[Agape93]

You'd be surprised how uncomfortable people are with silence, especially if they're doing something to rile you up.

[IMuser]

Yup. I use this a lot.

[wheresmrcunnunglis]

Agreed, I love doing this in interviews to get more information about a job or company. Or when they try to persuade me to take a lower wage. Works like a charm.

[IMuser]

@wheresmrcunnunglis exactly! I use this in social settings and it works like a charm. The philosophy behind this: if you have nothing better to say, don't say it

[bamesjond0069]

Stand up for yourself is the best way to stop a bully. Even at work or something. Better to get a black eye and have everyones respect than to be constantly abused for years. 99% it never even comes to it and they immediately back down from the challenge.

[HighlyVolatile]

I can make any woman more or less attractive to me. But I didn't know that as a teen.

[HighlyVolatile]

Same with food. I can make food taste better or worse in my mind. I decide whether I think it should taste good or not. I didn't realize I had control over this until I found a way to control it.

[Mellifluous_]

Do you mean attracted to you? 🤔

[Mellifluous_]

Ohhhh i understand now 🤌
Yo you must have a really strong mind now to be able to do that!

[HighlyVolatile]

Not attracted to me. I have no control over that. I mean I can control whether I'm attracted to someone else.

[HighlyVolatile]

It's not exactly strength but more like imagination. For example, normally I would think cold beans from a can aren't very tasty. But I use my imagination. I have been stranded on a space station for years with only bland gel packs for food. They have the nutrients to sustain my bodily functions but they are so bland and I almost want to vomit sometimes drinking this paste. So I find canned beans and now I am in paradise. This is the best-tasting food I have ever had in my life now.

Same with women. Let's say I don't find her attractive at first physically but she is so nice and we click and we seem so right for each other. So I imagine we are stranded on an island after the entire world was destroyed and now she is the most beautiful woman on the earth because there aren't any others left. And now she is beautiful to me.

I control what I like.

[Mellifluous_]

I like this way of thinking 🤌

Yeah holy shit okay I'm trying this asap 🤣

Have you used this trick in any other areas of your life?

[HighlyVolatile]

I can't do it perfectly yet though. Still struggle to like country music. But I have managed to like some when I hated it so much before. I imagine I am cowboy square dancing in a bar playing this music and being shoulder-to-shoulder with women smiling and I like the music a bit better. I haven't been able to make any of it my favorite though so I don't have 100% control over it. But maybe 50%.

[HighlyVolatile]

I use this all the time. If I do something I hate, I make myself love it. If I am getting angry, I make myself happy. I just think differently each time I don't like something. There is a brief period where I don't like it and I am trying to make it shorter and shorter but I just reframe my mind and then I like it.

[HighlyVolatile]

Like, let's say it is raining and I am having a bad day. Work was tough, I have bad things going on in my life, and on the staircase down I slept and fall down the stairs and hurt myself. I could get very upset and often I do for a moment in anger or misery but that is loss of control. I then try to imagine my childhood falling off a bicycle slipping on puddles and all the joy I had and all the fun even in spite of bruises and scrapes and then I'm happy again.

I used to think when I was a teen that I have 0% control over these things. I am far from 100% but I think I have reached a point of 50% or so. It's just how I think about it.

[HighlyVolatile]

* slipped

[honeynut-scenarios]

If you see someone yawn, you’ll almost instantly want to do the same. (most of the time)

[Andres77]

Just reading this gave me the urge to yawn... thanks.

[ChiTown33]

That being happy is a choice. You can't always control your situation. But you can control how you choose to react to your situation.

[FreyaRed]

"Feeding" egoism of others is the best way to convince them to things they don't need.

[docster]

Playing dumb has gotten me out of a lot of situations.

[Anonymous]

Reverse psychology. If want to get something done by someone ask him/her to do the opposite.

Why does it work? BC we love freedom if someone try to limit by saying something you can't do it or Don't do it, we want to do it even more.

But there are some terms and conditions for this to work. It doesn't always work.

[jennifer_bloom]

I learned you can get away with incredible stupidity when people believe your a good person.

[exitseven]

If you threaten somebody with a really severe punishment they will do what you want.

[JustiReno]

Fight 🤺or flight 🕊

[exitseven]

@JustiReno you need to have the reputation of not making idle threats.

[Desconhecida]

If you want someone to do something for you, ask them a small favor before.

[JustiReno]

Can you hold my drink for a sec? 🍹

[Desconhecida]

Only if you pass me the bread 🍞 🙂

[JustiReno]

I’ll pass you the blunt?

[Desconhecida]

🚬🚬🚬🤤💨

[Tstrbrainer]

I suck at socialising and psychology . So I don't really know.
What trick surprised you?

[JustiReno]

Well hopefully it makes you feel better Freud was obsessed with dildos 😳

[Tstrbrainer]

Nice info

[SpaceGalaxy]

That most people tend to agree with what you say when they are with you eating food and drinking

[Anonymous]

Flash the cash

It closes deals even when frankly you're taking a fucking liberty

[NathanDavis]

ignoring obnoxious people... lol

[OddBeMe]

Let the other do the talking.