I'm old fashioned. I open doors for ladies, I pull out their chair, I stand when they leave the table or arrive at the table, and I would never EVER lay a harmful hand on them. I don't care what the circumstances are. What society has lost, in large part, is the art of being a gentleman, and in some cases the art of being a lady.
I use to think the same way. Youtube has plenty of examples of Women attacking Men on a Bus, Subway or other confined quaters. If you have a way out, take it. There are situations where you can't retreat and you are forced to protect yourself... even from Women!
He's still a man by definition of the word but his reputation will be in tatters for hitting a woman, men who hit women it's because it's their way og gaining control when all control is lost, they lash out same for anyone who has lost control women, men, violence never solves anything and is not the answer it only makes it ten times worse.
No it's not. I usually beat up my girlfriend whenever I get angry. It's just anger, you've got to let it out. I mean I punched my girlfriend in the nose and made it bleed, then she cried and I kicked her legs and stomach whens he was laying on the floor, but that's anger for you. Now she is scared to leave me because I threatened to brake her bones 😜😜😝😂
If a weaker man came up to a bigger man and started shit and antagonize him, even hit him. Should the bigger man just take it because he is stronger than the weaker man?
6'4" man here. The answer is I can not hit a smaller man than me. If I fight a small man and win, then I look a bully. If I fight and lose, then the smaller man looks like king shit. That situation is lose/lose for the large man. This is in a boxing style situation.
My solution? Take it to the ground. I cover up, get a hold of him, and drag him to the ground. Not only have I trained harder on my ground game, but I also have twenty times the advantage there. Additionally with a wrestle there is not striking, and therefore no story to tell when the cops show up.
I'm a former pro MMA fighter (most wins TKOs/KOs), brown belt in BJJ, etc. I agree about the ground game. I good choke will shut them up without leaving bruises.
There are SEVERAL times I could have beat the shit out of guys my same size, smaller than me, bigger me for verbally antagonizing me. If they would hit then all bets are off. However I got a clean record and I didn't want the court systems looking at my past training in a assault/battery case.
Point being I'm sick of weaker people who resort to running their mouths to look tough. I hate to say it, but it does work for them to certain extent. This DOES include women. If women are so "equal" to men nowadays then they should be open season to retaliation on all levels.
@sdistotallyme No argument here mate. We don't have it easier in the security business. But most of the weaker people won't touch you first, which means even taking it to the mats is out of the question in the laws eyes. A sharp wit and fierce tongue should always be the first line of defense. But be ready, cause if you beat them at talking, they will get physical 80% of the time.
@Girly1710 It is a question for clarification. This piece was written by someone who's never been minding their own business and had a loud, possibly drunk little man intensely pick a fight with them.
Three options that will end things with minimal discomfort.
1. Treat him as if he's an insignificant speck. Point and laugh. Even possibly ignore him and walk away.
2. Threaten him with repercussions if he ever attempts to do anything to you.
3. Kill him with kindness. If you're in public and it's clear he's being the asshole and you're just having fun, smiling and joking around. He has to make himself look like a dick by pushing things further and no one want to look bad.
@Bobba_Fett that's the problem, I'm not a smart ass. I choose to ignore people, laugh or move on. The only outward sign I got as a tough guy is cauliflower ear (not tattoos).
@rjroy3 Thanks. Admittedly I'm not that fast on my feet (verbally... but physically though watch out). I just choose to ignore people and walk on. However it does get under my skin sometimes. The problem is I look like stock broker on the outside. The vast majority of people have absolutely NO IDEA of what I'm capable of doing. Getting underestimated all the time is a pain in the ass.
@sdistotallyme and that might be part of it. But the cool thing is you don't have to be quick at all. Just positive and playful. Make your reality the dominant one and he'll be likely to give in, because of that environment. Obviously still avoid clearly bad situations, but you don't have to respond in the way that they want you to. I can't remember the last time I had to be concerned about actually fighting someone while out on the night.
@rjroy3 the thing is there is no "verbal" martial arts training out there. Some people are born smartasses and some aren't. It's been a problem I've had to deal with all my life.
The last time I had a problem was about 6 months ago. I was a roulette table in LV and I accidentally took someones chips (I was very drunk). It was random African American kid who wasn't even sitting on the table. I gave him his chips right away but he insisted on making an ass out of himself and even threatened to hit me. I smiled at him because I couldn't think of anything to say. He came OUT OF NOWHERE. I wish he would have hit me because it would been curtains for him if did anything less than knock me out.
Anyway thats in the past. But I wish I had training to be quicker in those situations. They always seem to come out nowhere.
@sdistotallyme better response. Avoid being drunk in public lol. I hear you, but even with training... if you're drunk you're not going to be coherent enough to be ready in that situation. Guys that start fights like that are going to get into a fight. If it's not with you, then it'll be with someone else. I'm not one to say run away from a fight. But in some circumstances fighting should really be the last option in your mind.
@sdistotallyme and there are verbal martial arts. It's called Improv class lol. You practice being quick mentally. I've never taken it, but it does help people with that sort of thing. You learn to think quick on your feet
@rjroy3 thanks. It really was a bad situation. I was having fun, had about 10 shots of vodka, I was sitting down (he was standing up), I never saw the guy put the bet down. I didn't want to get kicked out the casino/hotel. However in retrospect I wish I would have beat the shit out of him.
You are not the first person to recommend improv. My ex girlfriend got into that and it really changed her personality. I tried an intro class but to be honest I didn't like the people (ultra liberal types). They also didn't allow swearing/physical insults. It was more "goofy' situations. I wish there was a real life "school for scoundrels" out there. There needs to be an improv class for nice guys who aren't verbally fast on their feet.
@sdistotallyme the idea Is to get your brain firing up to speed under pressure. The actual words don't matter that much. But yea, I can see wanting to avoid uber liberals lol
@rjroy3 I need to look for something. The problem is my ex girlfriend is VERY involved with the local improv scene by where I live. Running into her again would be very uncomfortable. Also she went into the group as a moderate liberal but evolved (or should I say devolved) into a man hating, super liberal feminist type. I also believe her new group of improv friends encouraged her to break up with me.
With that said I do need to look for something. I do agree about the verbal martial arts angle.
@Walrus_au that can be interpreted in many different ways. If you are saying that you are being a pussy for not being violent right away? Or is someone so stupid and incompetent they have no choice to be violent? Prisons are full of people like that.
@Bobba_Fett This right here. Beat them with brains first, then brawn. And when they get physical, even if you lose, you'll likely win because the attacker will be thrown in jail. Granted you yourself weren't intitiating the antagonizing. With women, I'd use the same strategy except restrain yourself to merely restraining the girl. You have to defend yourself while not wanting to harm women. But again, that depends on how lethal she wants to escalate things. At that point, a woman attacking a man unjustifiably is hardly feminine at all.
@Bobba_Fett 6'9" man here. Had the same issue. Small guys love to start with tall guys just to try and prove something. Like you stated if we were to fight and win we look like bullies. If they win they look like kings. It is a lose/lose. I like your idea of wrestling them on the ground so there are no marks.
As long a woman doesn't manipulate, spread rumors or cheats on me then it would be wrong to hit her. Altho sometimes i feel like shallow or picky girls deserve to get hit because of how cruel, inconsiderate and mean they are. I believe the reason so many guys commit suicide is because of girls like that.
Well, I say, he won't be a "man" much longer or anymore, when and if someone (or the women he had hit) cuts his fucking dick and balls off in retaliation for hitting a woman or some women. Am i right on this?
That will teach him, yea, and make him think twice about what he had done or had planned to do.
I agree that "nobody should be hitting anyone". However, a lot of misandrists think that men are always the perpetrators. Whenever a man tries to report his abusive wife, he is ridiculed and assumed to be the abuser.
Thank you for saying it both for men and women :) I thought you'd only say if a man hits a woman, but I'm glad you said if a woman hits too she is no longer a real woman x
I'm against violence, but some people just step on your nerves... best thing to do is slapping them in the face, it either gonna wake them up or make them attack after that you will be in self defense position and anything he gets next will be up to the choice he make...
I get what you're saying but why is it more acceptable for a woman to hit a guy? I saw an social experiment that ABC news did were a girl was beating up her boyfriend and most people especially women were clapping and saying he probably deserved it. I guess its a double standard but I don't hit anyone.
I think it is tho. I've seen girls beat up thier boyfriend outside clubs and stuff and people laugh at the guy. Yes those people are stupid but I think from my experience, most people will give the woman a pass but not the guy.
He wasn't a man to start whit just a bastard as far as I can understand. Men don't lay a hand on any women child just to show who is the boss. We got plenty of child abuse and violent killing of small children in the hands of "men" what has to stop. The Cout system needs to be changes, no plea bargaining, murder is what is.
I don't see how they could loose their gender/sex by hitting someone. That doesn't make sense to me.
“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." Martin Luther King, Jr. Hate the behavior, not the person. They are, after all, still human.
great take. it shouldn't be men should hit women. it should be people shouldn't hit people. the idea men shouldn't hit women causes HUGE problems in our society.
I like to use the word boys when something comes about like cheaters and abusers. Boys do thats hit not men. What makes a man a man is that he respects a woman. Thats in my opinion.
It depends. Growing up I saw a lot of guys hitting girls and that kind of violence. It's never good but there are situations I'd say the guy is justified. Sue me feminists lol
The people that only respond to violence, yes. People in here seem to be waaaayyy too civilized compared to the real world.
Nobody in this site seems to have been pushed. People don't seem to understand how one can mentally manipulate another to exhaustion. The treats and "little things" they do to hurt everyone around them. I gotta tell you, people don't want to imagine such scenarios, cause you think they're barbaric, but such people exist way more than you think, and they only stop with violence. They only stop when they see that they can be put away for good. And even that way, some seem to ignore violence, and continue to push it, just to see how far one would go with that violence, they become their own martyrs.
I won't explain any further, and if you don't get the picture, then keep that way. In that civilized mind. It's a good thing, as long as you don't encounter a manipulative mind.
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I'm old fashioned. I open doors for ladies, I pull out their chair, I stand when they leave the table or arrive at the table, and I would never EVER lay a harmful hand on them. I don't care what the circumstances are. What society has lost, in large part, is the art of being a gentleman, and in some cases the art of being a lady.
I use to think the same way. Youtube has plenty of examples of Women attacking Men on a Bus, Subway or other confined quaters. If you have a way out, take it. There are situations where you can't retreat and you are forced to protect yourself... even from Women!
If "being a gentleman" means being sexist, then yes. Society is getting rid of sexism. Good observation.
He's still a man by definition of the word but his reputation will be in tatters for hitting a woman, men who hit women it's because it's their way og gaining control when all control is lost, they lash out same for anyone who has lost control women, men, violence never solves anything and is not the answer it only makes it ten times worse.
*OF i should have said instead of og*
No it's not. I usually beat up my girlfriend whenever I get angry. It's just anger, you've got to let it out. I mean I punched my girlfriend in the nose and made it bleed, then she cried and I kicked her legs and stomach whens he was laying on the floor, but that's anger for you. Now she is scared to leave me because I threatened to brake her bones 😜😜😝😂
If a weaker man came up to a bigger man and started shit and antagonize him, even hit him. Should the bigger man just take it because he is stronger than the weaker man?
6'4" man here. The answer is I can not hit a smaller man than me. If I fight a small man and win, then I look a bully. If I fight and lose, then the smaller man looks like king shit. That situation is lose/lose for the large man. This is in a boxing style situation.
My solution? Take it to the ground. I cover up, get a hold of him, and drag him to the ground. Not only have I trained harder on my ground game, but I also have twenty times the advantage there. Additionally with a wrestle there is not striking, and therefore no story to tell when the cops show up.
I'm a former pro MMA fighter (most wins TKOs/KOs), brown belt in BJJ, etc. I agree about the ground game. I good choke will shut them up without leaving bruises.
There are SEVERAL times I could have beat the shit out of guys my same size, smaller than me, bigger me for verbally antagonizing me. If they would hit then all bets are off. However I got a clean record and I didn't want the court systems looking at my past training in a assault/battery case.
Point being I'm sick of weaker people who resort to running their mouths to look tough. I hate to say it, but it does work for them to certain extent. This DOES include women. If women are so "equal" to men nowadays then they should be open season to retaliation on all levels.
Maybe you missed the part where she said self defense is the only exception.
@sdistotallyme No argument here mate. We don't have it easier in the security business. But most of the weaker people won't touch you first, which means even taking it to the mats is out of the question in the laws eyes. A sharp wit and fierce tongue should always be the first line of defense. But be ready, cause if you beat them at talking, they will get physical 80% of the time.
@Girly1710
It is a question for clarification.
This piece was written by someone who's never been minding their own business and had a loud, possibly drunk little man intensely pick a fight with them.
Three options that will end things with minimal discomfort.
1. Treat him as if he's an insignificant speck. Point and laugh. Even possibly ignore him and walk away.
2. Threaten him with repercussions if he ever attempts to do anything to you.
3. Kill him with kindness. If you're in public and it's clear he's being the asshole and you're just having fun, smiling and joking around. He has to make himself look like a dick by pushing things further and no one want to look bad.
@Bobba_Fett that's the problem, I'm not a smart ass. I choose to ignore people, laugh or move on. The only outward sign I got as a tough guy is cauliflower ear (not tattoos).
@rjroy3 Thanks. Admittedly I'm not that fast on my feet (verbally... but physically though watch out). I just choose to ignore people and walk on. However it does get under my skin sometimes. The problem is I look like stock broker on the outside. The vast majority of people have absolutely NO IDEA of what I'm capable of doing. Getting underestimated all the time is a pain in the ass.
@sdistotallyme and that might be part of it. But
the cool thing is you don't have to be quick at all. Just positive and playful. Make your reality the dominant one and he'll be likely to give in, because of that environment. Obviously still avoid clearly bad situations, but you don't have to respond in the way that they want you to. I can't remember the last time I had to be concerned about actually fighting someone while out on the night.
@rjroy3 the thing is there is no "verbal" martial arts training out there. Some people are born smartasses and some aren't. It's been a problem I've had to deal with all my life.
The last time I had a problem was about 6 months ago. I was a roulette table in LV and I accidentally took someones chips (I was very drunk). It was random African American kid who wasn't even sitting on the table. I gave him his chips right away but he insisted on making an ass out of himself and even threatened to hit me. I smiled at him because I couldn't think of anything to say. He came OUT OF NOWHERE. I wish he would have hit me because it would been curtains for him if did anything less than knock me out.
Anyway thats in the past. But I wish I had training to be quicker in those situations. They always seem to come out nowhere.
@sdistotallyme better response. Avoid being drunk in public lol. I hear you, but even with training... if you're drunk you're not going to be coherent enough to be ready in that situation. Guys that start fights like that are going to get into a fight. If it's not with you, then it'll be with someone else. I'm not one to say run away from a fight. But in some circumstances fighting should really be the last option in your mind.
@sdistotallyme and there are verbal martial arts. It's called Improv class lol. You practice being quick mentally. I've never taken it, but it does help people with that sort of thing. You learn to think quick on your feet
@rjroy3 thanks. It really was a bad situation. I was having fun, had about 10 shots of vodka, I was sitting down (he was standing up), I never saw the guy put the bet down. I didn't want to get kicked out the casino/hotel. However in retrospect I wish I would have beat the shit out of him.
You are not the first person to recommend improv. My ex girlfriend got into that and it really changed her personality. I tried an intro class but to be honest I didn't like the people (ultra liberal types). They also didn't allow swearing/physical insults. It was more "goofy' situations. I wish there was a real life "school for scoundrels" out there. There needs to be an improv class for nice guys who aren't verbally fast on their feet.
@sdistotallyme the idea Is to get your brain firing up to speed under pressure. The actual words don't matter that much. But yea, I can see wanting to avoid uber liberals lol
@rjroy3 I need to look for something. The problem is my ex girlfriend is VERY involved with the local improv scene by where I live. Running into her again would be very uncomfortable. Also she went into the group as a moderate liberal but evolved (or should I say devolved) into a man hating, super liberal feminist type. I also believe her new group of improv friends encouraged her to break up with me.
With that said I do need to look for something. I do agree about the verbal martial arts angle.
@sdistotallyme well I'm rootin for ya brotha man.
To quote a character from a book. "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."
@Walrus_au that can be interpreted in many different ways. If you are saying that you are being a pussy for not being violent right away? Or is someone so stupid and incompetent they have no choice to be violent? Prisons are full of people like that.
I've been in a few streets by the way. I don't go looking for that shit but sometimes you got to take care of business.
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@Bobba_Fett If a small man comes up and starts a fight with you and you smash him, you're not a bully. The small guy is just stupid.
@Bobba_Fett This right here. Beat them with brains first, then brawn. And when they get physical, even if you lose, you'll likely win because the attacker will be thrown in jail. Granted you yourself weren't intitiating the antagonizing. With women, I'd use the same strategy except restrain yourself to merely restraining the girl. You have to defend yourself while not wanting to harm women. But again, that depends on how lethal she wants to escalate things. At that point, a woman attacking a man unjustifiably is hardly feminine at all.
@Bobba_Fett 6'9" man here. Had the same issue. Small guys love to start with tall guys just to try and prove something. Like you stated if we were to fight and win we look like bullies. If they win they look like kings. It is a lose/lose. I like your idea of wrestling them on the ground so there are no marks.
As long a woman doesn't manipulate, spread rumors or cheats on me then it would be wrong to hit her. Altho sometimes i feel like shallow or picky girls deserve to get hit because of how cruel, inconsiderate and mean they are. I believe the reason so many guys commit suicide is because of girls like that.
Well, I say, he won't be a "man" much longer or anymore, when and if someone (or the women he had hit) cuts his fucking dick and balls off in retaliation for hitting a woman or some women. Am i right on this?
That will teach him, yea, and make him think twice about what he had done or had planned to do.
I agree that "nobody should be hitting anyone". However, a lot of misandrists think that men are always the perpetrators. Whenever a man tries to report his abusive wife, he is ridiculed and assumed to be the abuser.
I forgot to mention that the feminists tend to close down shelters for abused men.
In my area, Tampa, FL., Abuse Shelters are beginning to recognize that Men are abused... JUST AS MUCH AS WOMEN.
@MagiAlphaOne That's good to hear.
Thank you for saying it both for men and women :) I thought you'd only say if a man hits a woman, but I'm glad you said if a woman hits too she is no longer a real woman x
I'm against violence, but some people just step on your nerves...
best thing to do is slapping them in the face, it either gonna wake them up or make them attack after that you will be in self defense position and anything he gets next will be up to the choice he make...
I get what you're saying but why is it more acceptable for a woman to hit a guy? I saw an social experiment that ABC news did were a girl was beating up her boyfriend and most people especially women were clapping and saying he probably deserved it. I guess its a double standard but I don't hit anyone.
its not more acceptable. those people are just idiotic
I think it is tho. I've seen girls beat up thier boyfriend outside clubs and stuff and people laugh at the guy. Yes those people are stupid but I think from my experience, most people will give the woman a pass but not the guy.
alright but that doesn't mean its right. no one should hit anyone, regardless of sex.
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He wasn't a man to start whit just a bastard as far as I can understand. Men don't lay a hand on any women child just to show who is the boss. We got plenty of child abuse and violent killing of small children in the hands of "men" what has to stop. The Cout system needs to be changes, no plea bargaining, murder is what is.
I don't see how they could loose their gender/sex by hitting someone. That doesn't make sense to me.
“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Hate the behavior, not the person. They are, after all, still human.
great take. it shouldn't be men should hit women. it should be people shouldn't hit people. the idea men shouldn't hit women causes HUGE problems in our society.
I only beat women if it's in sport or self-defense. And I got my ass kicked by a girl who was way more skilled than I was.
But domestic abuse is something that needs to fucking stop. I can't understand why women fall for abusive jerks.
I like to use the word boys when something comes about like cheaters and abusers. Boys do thats hit not men. What makes a man a man is that he respects a woman. Thats in my opinion.
If you beat a women for no reason then yeah of course for any right or logical reason were it's warranted though it's perfectly fine.
It depends. Growing up I saw a lot of guys hitting girls and that kind of violence. It's never good but there are situations I'd say the guy is justified. Sue me feminists lol
"Well, yes if a man hits someone who wasn't provoking him or attacking him, then he isn't a man." <This.
But once you attack a man, be prepared to be knocked the fuck out.
Don't hit. At the most, disarm a weaker person. An exception is self-defense.
Simple.
Some people only respond to violence. That's how one should treat them.
thats how one should treat them, them = the one being hit deserves it?
The people that only respond to violence, yes.
People in here seem to be waaaayyy too civilized compared to the real world.
Nobody in this site seems to have been pushed. People don't seem to understand how one can mentally manipulate another to exhaustion. The treats and "little things" they do to hurt everyone around them. I gotta tell you, people don't want to imagine such scenarios, cause you think they're barbaric, but such people exist way more than you think, and they only stop with violence. They only stop when they see that they can be put away for good. And even that way, some seem to ignore violence, and continue to push it, just to see how far one would go with that violence, they become their own martyrs.
I won't explain any further, and if you don't get the picture, then keep that way. In that civilized mind. It's a good thing, as long as you don't encounter a manipulative mind.
and yeah, violence should be a last resource, but some people just beg for it. I'm telling you.. they fucking beg for it.