Everyone already knows what cheaters are and what they do, but there seems to be a lot of confusion as to what players are and what they do. I want to voice a couple of thoughts according to my perspective and experience.
Cheaters
We all know the words "cheater" and "cheating" but in this world we live in, one negative act is usually portrayed as though there were many instances. A cheat is someone who cheated ONCE, a cheatER is someone who has committed the act twice or more times, be it in one relationship or multiple, or with one partner or multiple partners. Its tiring hearing situations in which a person’s partner made one slip and is then considered a cheater and/or a player. I guess its easier that way but is just insulting to real players out there. The way i see it, cheaters are divided into two groups, the opportunists and the sheep, the most popular one being the sheep.
Opportunists: These are the regular cheaters you hear about, who use the law of averages. Some of them just take whatever they can get whenever they can get it, while some do a bit of chasing to accomplish whatever they are after, regardless of if they are in a relationship or not. There are many, but are not the majority.
Sheep: I've told a lot of women that when a man commits, he really does, but many women make it difficult completely ignoring the fact that the man is already going Against his own nature and instincts just to give them what they want, but many stay unsatisfied and keep wanting more. Sheep cheaters are the ones who WANT to commit and do what they can to make their partners happy but feel like they are getting the short end of the stick, like there is more give, and less or no take. They usually try to voice it in one way or the other to their partners who in turn completely ignore them, their feelings and wants. Feeling rejected, sheep tend to look for solace outside. They are pushed (herded) in the direction to "cheat". They are also the ones usually classified as "weak".
Some people say “why not just leave rather than cheat”…but look at the scenarios…the opportunist doesn’t care, their partner if any, is just another person on the list who is available, and the sheep really doesn’t want to leave, but tends to have ignored wants that they feel aren’t satisfied or negotiated/discussed. None of those two really has the will or determination to “just leave”.
If you want someone who would rather just leave, you are looking for the Player. Amazingly enough, many of the people who use that BS line are the same people who ask questions like:
“Did they not care about me at all?”
“Were they lying from the start?”
“Was all they wanted just….(fill in blank)”
These come up, when the person just ups and leaves rather than argue, compromise, or cheat, so I find that line a little two-faced.
Players
Like cheaters, there are different kinds of players, I will get to that in a bit. Contrary to popular belief, Players, the real ones anyway, don’t need to have more than one partner to be considered a player, a real player just always has a game plan, be it with one partner or multiple. That is something people seem to miss, talking about “He/she was just a player”, no boo boo, what you saw was either a budding cheat, or a wannabe. True players rarely get caught and if they do, they tend to have a contingency plan to either deny it or an exit strategy. Players are the ones who will just up and leave, no questions or explanations.
Like I said, there are different types of players: the Wannabe’s, the Playas and True Players.
The Wannabe player is basically the opportunistic cheater but missing a very essential factor crucial to the reason WHY it is even called “playing”…they usually don’t have a game plan, they just take shots in the dark and hope. They tend to already be in one relationship, usually used as a "fall back" when there are no available opportunities.
The Playas are somewhat like true players, but are usually lacking in some areas so they let something else speak for them in that area, just to be a distraction. In most male cases, it is usually money or some show of wealth. For the female playas, it’s usually some kind of physical attribute or attributes. Some claiming, “independent and don’t need no man”, are chock full of attitude to most males around and are completely uninterested unless they pick the males themselves. This group also fluctuates because they more likely to cheat than have a game plan like the true players.
The True Players are the ones who understand that relationships can be likened to a game. With the right tools, actions and words, one can survive (not win, it’s a game, not a competition). The real players are the ones that can't be persuaded or dissuaded. They make the calls, usually the “right” ones, because they are that confident and knowledgeable (and have an endgame). When with a real player, one can't really tell unless they know what to look for. Most people who have been involved with these kind of people, never know until either the end or when the player is done with whatever angle was being played and decides to come forth. The mark was probably too busy classifying things as “perfect”.
True players like the chase (the game) and challenges, something you won't hear a wannabe say and something a playa would just throw material things at to cover up inadequacies. To a true player, the word Cheat, doesn't exist, its all just part of "the game" and will be handled as such. After all, there is no need to cheat when you hold all the cards, have a strategy planned out, don't care about being "caught" and are willing to "up and leave" at any time.
Not mentioned as part of the players group, of course, are the former true players. Former true players still know the game but mostly play defense, meaning that though they may not approach everyone and everything, they make sure that they themselves are not being played. Many former players tend not lie because they aren’t in the business of just making partners happy anymore, but are more interested in their own comfort and happiness. For males, this seems cause a lot of strife between them and a good percentage of women, especially those ones who still live on "Cloud 9". Former true players tend to break all those game “rules” and double standards and prefer to keep things equal, these are things that couldn’t be done before. They do tend to revert back to the game once in a while as a reference or to achieve a goal, but don't stay in it too long. They move on to the next challenge which is actual commitment.
Players can be cheaters, but not all cheats or cheaters can be players. So again, it’s quite insulting to true players when someone calls a cheater a player, when all they did was cheat and take advantage of an opportunity, and not create it himself or herself.
Many people, mostly women, tend to act like they are both one and the same, while they aren’t. Its that kind of surface thinking that makes them miss little definers and make some choices that could lead to regret later, example, falling for a true player or judging according to looks alone.
A Wannabe has no game plan, a Playa, if with a game plan, it’s usually tends to be short term, and a True Player has game plans for all scenarios, short term to long term, along with contingencies and exit strategies. The former True Player has the same attributes as the True Player but makes the decision not to use them or keep them for reference purposes only.
I know i didn't as in-depth as it really could go, especially on the player side, that's because every player has their own way, their own rules and their own limitations. I just wanted to point out that those two classifications are different from each other if one looks closely enough. Just because a person cheats, doesn't make them a player. What are your thoughts?
That seems like some pretty messed up glorification of personality disorders there.
Causing others emotional harm can have real consequences and the true player who mindfucks his girlfriend (s) isn't much better than the drunk shitbag who physically beats them.
Ask any victim of domestic abuse and you'll know that the emotional and mental mindfucks leaves scars and damage far beyond hospital stays, stiches and bruises...
There's nothing glorious about having an endgame plan to cause someone harm. But then again you may just lack the empathy or moral compass to be aware of this... We call those people socipaths at best if they just don't care, and psychopaths at worst if they enjoy inflincting the pain and playing the games.
You have a very very dark view of things man... admittedly, knowing how the game goes can make some people feel empowered and begin shitting on people.. or causing emotional harm, but that doesn't mean that all do. Knowing how to use a weapon doesn't automatically make a person a killer. Ask yourself, how many dating "rules" are created by guys? i'll wait. You think as a guy, we considered what is now known as cheating, as cheating? or was it made up by someone else. Also ask yourself why some girls consider some acts as cheating, and others don't... If you want to be one of the Sheep and be herded, by all means boo boo. lol...@ moral compass, and empathy... you are brainwashed past the point of help mate. Empathize away my brother. I just don't wana be herded.
It's not a game to me. People aren't objects to be played with. And this isn't a white knight respect the girls and accept all their shitty behaviour bullshit. It's people. Same goes for guys, we deserve as much respect, regard and responsibility as they do.
Most probably by cheating, you will be causing your partner emotional harm. Most likely. Because it's cheating. If you're in an open relationship, that's different. If you're just fuck buddies, that's different. If it's a string of one night stands, also different. But cheating comes with the assumption that you had trust and a mutual agreement to stay committed and when one person breaks that agreement, they're acting in a disrespectful, disregarding and abusive way. It's absue of trust and goodwill and that's never ok to me, coming from a guy, coming from a girl, it's all the same.
It doesn't matter who made what up, in the end what matters is what makes your partner feel betrayed. That's what you ultimately want to try and avoid. It all varies from person to person based on their levels on confidence, values, culture etc... You don't need to go around assuming they're playing games and fuck them over. And you don't need to put up with bullshit either, there is a middle ground where you can stand. If the girl is overly jealous and you can't take it, you have a right to be firm and say it's not suitable to you and just end it. But there's no need to decieve people and pretend and play with them, it just causes a whole lot more mental stress and emotional harm than is necessary.
You can fuck as much as you want. Have open relationships, be polyamorous. Have 5somes, whatever floats your boat. But there's never a need to decieve and cause emotional harm in my eyes. This "player" lifestyle of having many guys/chicks, doesn't need to go hand in hand with harming them
I guess you aren't past help then. I get your meaning. mutual respect. im not a big fan of cheating though I've done it before, and I've quit playing the stupid games women put out so i guess i did find the middle ground. the unfair part about this is that people are usually on one side of the spectrum. Either you are the one playing the game or you are being played. Respect doesn't even come into this. You said its not a game to you, kudos, you are probably the one being played then. I had a very intense discussion with a girl and i came to a realization. Women are right, guys do play games... but its not by choice. guys only play the games women set up. You might not know that you are playing it, but believe me, you are, ignorance isn't an excuse for you, neither is denial. You know how you know a guy that truly isn't playing the game... "they are single and socially awkward"
Well a lot of the time it's misunderstanding. And a lot of the time you can be dealing with people who just don't know who they are, what they want etc... and they can have all sorts of conflicting thoughts, wants and emotions. And although each and every one of them is legitimate and genuine in the moment, it seems like utter bullshit to someone outside looking in cause it's contradictory at every turn.
I don't think most people actually want to play games. But when a misunderstanding like this happens, they tend to see it as games and "play defense" or whatever. I find trying to be understanding and seeing the best in people tends to be more beneficial. To me, I know I'm solid and I'm an upfront character. I don't see myself in a bad light. And to them, well if you're clear, it gets easier for them to be clear. And some can't. And some play games. If you find evidence of games you can cut your losses without regrets. If not, you did everything you could without compromising yourself
I get what you mean about each and everyone being a player whether they like it or not, want it or not if you see this whole thing as a game. Some being less skilled than others.
The word "Player" tends to have a negative connotation, of someone who plays people. The way you worded the article seemed you were referring to the popular use of the term.
But having a plan on how you're going to make your relationship (s) (whatever they may be, ons, fuck buddies, committed, polyamourous etc...) work doesn't necessarily entail being deceitful or harmful to others, and it's probably a good idea to know how to deal with what comes your way. Great relationships can fall to bits when either partner doesn't know how to deal with challenges and misunderstandings or bumps that come their way. And some get fucked over long term because they never figured out they were being used.
Gotta admit your myTake is somewhat confusing. Needed quite a bit of reading to understand that meaning from it.
i guess i think on that level... admittedly they can be used negatively but i still believe both can be avoided. my point is exactly. most wouldn't have to but sadly have to. Don't we all have a positive connotation to our future relationships? but it doesn't work out that way. this was meant for the people who do the name calling, not those who are actually called the names.
Well I can't say that I'm surprised. I don't really care about what the differences are. Players, cheaters, wannabes... whatever. They're all lame. I'm not interesting in playing games or anyone who is interested in playing them. But again, I'm not surprised that you consider yourself a "former player". Good luck with that buddy.
Its not surprising that you will feel that way. I mean, when a group is the creator of the games people play, why would you care as to what goes on? Why care about the differences, when generalizing is sooo much easier... the only time people like that "care" is when they are the ones labelled or put in a defensive position. Don't need luck, its a game, and a game that some are done playing. Deceive yourself as much as you want darling, but your in it just as much as everyone else is, because if you weren't, my ways/words, won't be so "repulsive". At least im not going according to some guideline set by someone else. I'd rather not be herded like sheep. Some respect that, some don't. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, the truth will always show itself in the end.
I'm not apart of any game. I don't get into that. I'm not interested in playing with anyone. I'm an adult. Games are for children. And karma will catch up to you.
Karma already did. I don't mean to be technical but "games are for children"? who do you think creates these games? children? Ignore that by the way, it was rhetorical. Fact of the matter is games exist and one way or the other (not just relationships only) we get sucked into it, many times without even knowing it. Classifying yourself as an "adult" or whatever else... doesn't change that fact. If you want to bring children into it, i can honestly tell you that children play less "games" than adults... dont believe me?, have two children (pre-teen probably) have a conversation with each other, and have two "adults" have a conversation with each other, then measure the honesty levels of each. If its my likening of it as a "game" that gets to you, my apologies, call it whatever you want, doesn't mean you ain't in it.
@Tdieseler you mad or nah? You had to have known someone was going to say something! This post basically talks about different types of f*ckboys honestly!! Nobody has time for players and games! Take that bs elsewhere!! ✌
@Dahlia_213 Darling, even trying your best, you still won't make me mad.. my point, just tired of ignorant surface thinkers lumping glorifying cheaters by calling them players. Also, and i know this won't get through to you women's thick skulls... but if you don't like games, stop creating them. Don't be mad because someone calls you out on the bullshit y'all do. Just because women all band together, sometimes even in stupidity, doesn't mean the agreed solution is right. Keep hiding behind your power in numbers. I knew there would be some simpletons who would reply, but the people i aimed this at, are the ones im waiting for. this is just a warm up :)
You ASKED me to reply. And you didn't like what I had to say. And newsflash: if you cheat, you're a cheater! All of this other bullshit you're saying is just that, bullshit. Don't turn the game playing onto females either. That's just you.
I have better things to do than argue with someone who justifies being a f*ckboy! I agreed w an opinion and that's that! I love how it's stupidity when someone doesn't agreee w what you say! What happened to the grown ass men? When did being a f*ckboy become cool? Seriously.
I wasn't talking to you Jaded, i know what i did, im talking about ms support group over here. Also, anyone with half a brain knows full well that in female-male relationships, its the females who are full of games. Why you think the player are mostly guys? can't play if there ain't no game right? From the get go, girls be making "rules"... pfft.
He's really mad because I agreed with her opinion! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I can't. I'm tapped out! It's a shame I can't agree with an opinion without being jumped on! Have a nice life I'm done! ✌
Interesting take, makes a lot of sense. My own father is an ex true player lol he thought me all this stuff about men and games. Lets just say, I've done well and no men has ever broken my heart :) and am happy my father gave me so much insight into it. My sister, complete opposite. Unfortunately she wasn't close with my father at all. Time and time again she ends up with players, gets her heart broken and I have to pick up the pieces. No matter the advice I give her, it happens again and again. Sigh. But believe it or not, there is a small percentage of men who are not interested in this stuff. From my experience of knowing a couple through my lifetime, they are way to rational which overrides natural animal instinct. Its weird I know, but they do exist.
Thats true, it can be overridden but mostly begrudgingly and has to be for very good reason. Debating about this "games" topic though, I've come to realize why guys have no choice but to be about games... Women (yes, im generalizing) tend to set up too many fricking games. Hell, if i created a game and someone came along and completely saw through it and beat me at it, i'd be upset too... when i innately realized girls played too many games, i started dating older in the hopes there won't be games... there still were... but it was considerable less because older women didn't have time to wait and all that... been with older ever since. Guys would prefer not to play these stupid games but hey, if they want to get laid, they gotta lol :)
Unless the woman is so straight up. Once I met this guy, he was playing games from the beginning, I wasn't. Thought he'd get a hint and stop but no. So I played along just for fun. First and only time I played games. Was it fun? Yes. Was it a headache? Hell yes. Even when he "won" I let him coz I wanted him and was trying to say ok enough games, lets do this. But no, he still played and played. So I just ended up losing interest and told him the truth. We ended it. It felt like he was just playing a game for the sake of playing, power tripping etc. I was just doing an experiment lol sometimes I experiment and I'm my own guinea pig lol We never promised each other any relationship stuff, we admitted it was just strictly infatuation of the chase, so its not like we were deceitful. Buy boy, he was good, very good, I knew his every move and it made me chuckle, I appreciated it. But in the end he didn't know when to stop. Was fun but too much headache and wasted time. Wouldn't do it again
I experiment a lot as well, but im almost out of ideas now so its not as often. I still don't get how a guy can play games when everyone knows the final destination. like you said, unless the woman is straight up, games will be played and thats the way it works. You said you knew his every move... yea.. because basically there's a set amount of steps guys take to get to where they wanna be... if you know the steps and destination, obviously, he can seem predictable... its like me saying i know where the sun will be at certain times... duh.. its repetitive. Then there are deviant little bastards like me that know the steps as well But take a completely different route and end up blindsiding the person... its us they gotta watch out for. Some girls acted like i was predictable because they knew the usual "endgame".. boy... were they shocked.
Sounds like fun lol I must admit at first I didn't see it because it has been a while for me but didn't take long to catch on what he was doing. Some of the time I may have not seen his next move but once it was played, I was like aha that's what it is. I loved it and wanted to see what was next. We played for over 6 months, became addictive. We finally met and fooled around a bit but the game was still on and I outplayed him and ended it. Only because he didn't want to stop. Otherwise would have submitted to him. Because lets face it, I'm a dominant type and if anyone plays games with me, I'm going to win. But being dominant also means submitting at least sexually to a man occasionally and giving up that power for a moment. But he overplayed, huge mistake but perhaps worked out better for me in the end and made me not ever want to play these games again. Maybe he has a lot to learn if he wants to be a true player. I knew he wasn't when he self proclaimed player status when I met him
wait... he proclaimed he was a player? lol.. what a noob. Now that im out of the game though, i have to say, things are pretty boring... and many girls either hate me or try to "tame" me... pfft... like hell. From what you said.. i think you know your stuff... i like the ".. being dominant also means submitting... occasionally." line too. You also knew when the game was up AND you got what you wanted and got out... I would have had so much fun... a headache would have been the least of your worries lol.
haha thanks :) yeah headache was pushed aside but just like you I got bored, very bored. Got my little fix from this lol sounds bad haha. I'm back to boring lifestyle now but at least I can focus on my fitness now, properly. Some things are better than this games playing/experimenting with the opposite sex, I just got intrigued since its been a while and the whole topic of nature/nurture behaviours in general especially in sexual gender stuff is a great interest of mine. Lets say I'm almost like a scientist when it comes to it. Hopefully he learnt a thing or two. I've tried to explain to him in between the lines while most females might be responding in similar ways, that I was different and therefore required a different approach. He didn't get it and like you said, I got what I wanted, his loss. I love the way men's brain work, such a turn on for me, I agree with it in most cases :D
Men's brains work pretty simply... and i think we like it that way. women though, are not big fans of it... always thinking things are complicated. or maybe there is some hidden message or agenda... nope... nothing there. whatever a guy says, is probably what is on his mind... as is... nothing to decode.
Yup so true and so good and I've got the same type brain too lol not sure if its genes because I'm almost identical to my father, my mother has always been just the same, straight forward, not interested in girly stuff, doesn't get women, very rational and logical. I tried being friends with typical girls- unsuccessfull- unless they are like us, which is rare. I'm not complaining, men's company is definitely preferred. Sorry girls. When I watch women interact with each other especially on those reality shows, its like, discovery channel to me, so interesting but doesn't make sense haha. I don't blame you men, shit you gotta put up with lol I'm on your side. Well It is what it is and I am glad I am this way.. Hope you have a great day :)
You're describing a tantric, and the men women mistake for them. Women can also become tantrics but they're very rare, few, and far between. They're simply people with tons of power that are humble, & just with it instead of being jerks. ie: I'm not going to let her cheat, because I wouldn't want to be cheated on, or cause strife for her with her man, or cause strife between myself, and her man.
Yeah, I see there's a difference. But then players don't go into committed relationships while cheaters do? If this isn't the case, then I guess there is no difference afterall... o. O
hehehe, tbh its all about point of view. some go into a relationship, then cheat at first opportunity. (cheater), some go in with absolutely no intention of it being just one person (player). I understand that the difference is slight, there's no firm defining line. thats why i said the key difference is the game plan. One side has one, the other doesn't.
But then there's no difference for the girl, just technical difference for the guy. o. O Just like psychopaths and socipaths - psychos are organized and smart, while sociopaths are disorganized and of average intelligence... But both despicable. 25.media.tumblr.com/.../...F081rp68cjo5_r1_500.gif
hey... i take offense to that... lol.. some sociopaths are nice everyday people. plus, i don't think thats the real difference between the two. (had that convo with numerous people actually) you say there is no difference for "the girl"... darling, everything i wrote up there applies to both genders... sure the majority are guys but I've ran into girls for each group up there. How else would i be able to agree with you that both cheaters and players are despicable? :)
well then, they should have learned how to play the game as well. If only one side knows the game and the other is constantly going "well, im an adult, i don't play games"... tell me, which side do you think is gonna have their feelings hurt in the end? the knowledgeable one, or the one with the big mouth? I've seen two players come together and i have to tell you, its a beautiful thing. they just cancelled each other out.
Thats always another method... sadly, not too many people are that smart. Most are usually drawn to what they Want rather than what they Need. so they tend not to see through the "crap" until later on.
... knowing the game and playing the game are two different things. I don't know about you, but in my time, I've found that most people who claim "adult" play the most games. Funny aspect is that it has nothing to do with how old you are, or how "serious" you are. What is a game? Formal definition: "a form of play or sport, played according to rules and decided by skill, strength, or luck". If there weren't so many frickin' dating rules and expectations one has to hop through order to start and maintain a relationship. it would be difficult to be likened to a game. Remember when we were kids and all you just had to do was ask the other if they liked you or not? Now its all about eye contact, body language, appearances, wallet, car, wining and dining and so much other shit. frickin obstacle course lol.
@Rising5 some people see, some people don't. I never bother trying to explain further. I just know a lot of things have thin lines in this world... and sometimes, knowing exactly where that line is rather than assuming both sides are the same, could be the difference between caution and disaster. But like most human beings, just seeing them as the same because they seem to have similarities is SOOO MUCH easier. so go ahead. Im into details... to the point where i read all fine print. so to each their own eh.
I am fond of poker games. But as I know there are many cheaters. So I prefer to play online poker in casinos that I trust. I found a few of such on . I don't think that it's a game of chance. It's a strategy game. Knowing the right strategy, necessary skills and a little awareness about when to play and when not, you will be seeing stack of chips at your side.
When players get into a relationship they're tempted to cheat just to prove themselves they're still attactive. The more importance they give to attractiveness and the more they doubt themselves, the easier they cheat in my opinion.
it could be put that way but there are so many defining factors. yes, they will flirt or something, mess around but not necessarily "go the distance" and its not just to see if they are still attractive, the way i describe it is more like, if they "still got it". We both know that single life can be harder on guys, so you gotta keep your game up, cuz many women are crazy and the one you think you are in a relationship with could just wake up one morning and decided to toss your ass back in the dating pool... better hope you can still swim then.
in my opinion both sexes will get over the line (and have done so, as far as memory goes). I've known several men who tossed their wife out, as well as women who did it.
can't put it any better myself... both sides are full of bullshit. its just that most guys just refuse to point out the bullshit going on with women because --women band together regardless, power in numbers --guys wana fuck em. What i learned over the years, i used in self defense... i don't play them, but i don't want to be tossed around like a leaf either. You and I know full well that given the chance, thats what many women do.
My definition of player is simply a man who recognises that the love game is indeed a game and like you said, goes in with a conscious plan. Simple as that.
maybe you can explain it to some people better than i did because it seems like some guys think its all about sex, and sex is like the ultimate goal... when its really just One of the goals.
well after a lot of "shitty" relationships and people, you finally meet someone who just seems to get you in every which way and is just like you have always imagined perfection would be. the hard part would be NOT falling for them. Thats why when the big reveal happens, its devastating.
Yea, and you know black sheep are always lonely... no one but other black sheep will understand them. So im not surprised why a lot of women don't care about the differences and why a few guys are just clueless. its surprising because i see a lot of cheating/"is he playing me?" questions on here but now i give them the opportunity to be able to spot both, they just prefer to generalize. What i did forget to add was that players Can be changed...
The point of the Take was to make people aware that they aren't the same. its very irksome when some opportunistic cheater is called a player because of ignorant people that don't and don't want to know better.
It IS featured lol, its just in line of a very long list. So far though, it seems like people are still misunderstanding the idea behind the take. That one girl said im "justifying cheating"... lol... where? (speaking of which, i should write my own take as to what i think of "cheating") and this other guy is all like "players just have sex with multiple people"... been watching too much TV and porn. I visibly wrote that those are only one group of players and they aren't that good anyway.
They obviously haven't read the whole thing. I knew you weren't trying to justify it. Yeah don't listen to that other guy, he doesn't know what he's talking about. I would love to read your next take about what you think about cheating.
dude, once this becomes front page, its gonna blow up. but compared to the cheating one (where i actually justify cheating) this will be nothing lol... im gonna catch so much hell for that. Like im actually gonna give a shit lol. 🙄😤👹
Players only have one girl? I don't know misconstrued definition of a player that you have but player generally means he is fucking a lot of women. "The real ones" lmao gtfo
Think whatever you want and go with your definition of whatever you want. You are probably thinking of the Playa. Plus i didn't say "players only have one girl"... if you read the whole thing, you would have noticed i said "... don’t need to have more than one partner to be considered a true player.." Please don't misquote me. Not once did i mention that true players play people, i said they play the "game" regardless of the number of people.
How do the True Players do it? And wouldn't anyone who is not successful be considered a wannabe? Can wannabes become True Players? How do they do this?
They gain confidence... stop running into walls and doubting. Making a game plan and understanding that it may not always go according to plan but make the effort anyway.
That is something a former true player would do. reserved for people who just don't give a shit about the game anymore. I try to encourage that, but probably with a little more tact and finesse, thats why its good to know the game first or you just come off being "that awkward creepy perv" lol.
True. I've been with enough girls to know that their sex isn't that unique and it's not worth lying to them or making their life suck just to get some. But, yes, I should work on that tact and finesse.
you mean making Your life suck just to get some. I learned that about some 4 odd years ago... when i still used to walk on eggshells so i don't "upset" them, and I realized that even after months of depriving myself, just to keep that from happening, they STILL get upset. So i said fuck it, i make myself happy, they can either join in, or suck something sharp. And heaven help any woman that tries to use sex as a weapon lol... can't remember the last time that worked.
It could be anywhere my brother... could be physical, sexual, intellectual, experience... etc... the list goes on. unlike the true player, rather than work on that, they just put something on top to cover it up... a band aid.
Thats a good question, I guess it depends on what the objective is. If the objective is to get at another friend, lies could be used on the first person i guess. Many real players tend to avoid lies, its difficult enough to have a game plan with different scenarios already, so not many want to keep track of lies as well. there's a method to overcome that. Im only assuming you are talking about true players here. Playas lie damn near every time. Like i mentioned, their game plan is always short term and after that, they run on fumes and have to lie.
I don't know where I fall on this. I rely on prostitutes and fake porno companies. I don't think I'm good looking enough for a girl to just want to have sex with me no strings attached unless she is super old.
sex is only one of the objectives of a real player. its only playas that think sex is like the ultimate objective. thats why their plans are short term. A playa won't take time an effort to get one girl.. their confidence level is not that high. they get what they want and get out before they are discovered. A real player takes as much time as needed to accomplish the objective.
Again, it could be anything. your mind or curiosity is your only limitation. People are too used to generalizing, i guess it makes it easier to just lump everything together. I wrote that true players like challenges... where is the challenge in having the same objective/endgame all the frickin time?
Lol. as much as i would like to deny this, i can't, its sorta true. I mean, i'll still stick up for the true player because they are more interesting, and women tend to hate them the most... probably because they don't allow themselves to be controlled like the others. You can't judge something in which you made all the rules, then get upset because some play the game better than the creators lol.
Ehh I guess, but games are childish. When it comes to anything in life I'd rather be genuine and would hope the people I involve myself with would be as well. I don't really think you can get played if you've never even entered the game. I hope that makes sense lol.
I get what you are talking about. And don't I wish people would be genuine as well, but i guess as long as there is free will, there will always be games. You said "you can't get played if you aren't in the game"... darling, there are a lot of games, im only narrowing this down to relationships. Games start the moment you are aware. Ever seen a baby/toddler do that tearless crying, in order to get something they want and are given in exchange for silence? what do you think that toddler is doing? lol.
Yea, i feel you on that. I'd rather be with a cheater tho, at least its short. A true player can go on for years if thats how long it takes to achieve what they want. Then when they come forward and reveal it meant nothing... the results (which I've seen) are devastating. Imagine thinking you have the perfect relationship for a long time, just to find out you were just a means to an end.
of course it was created by women because men are the best players of games. Sports, video games, job hunted. If it has rules and win conditions, we can make it into a game. lol. Hell, it doesn't even need that. lol.
lol... I've tried explaining that to girls when they are like "guys are always playing games"... im like "thats because women keep setting up games" and that response just flies completely over their head. like im accusing them of some major crime. I mean, its hard to have players, if there are no games or obstacles set up to be played. Im currently having a conversation with someone about this on this post : www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2043139-why-do-women-dump-me-at-the-the-beginning-of-relationships
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