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Show me a woman who is available, accessible, faithful, and stable. And I might be more willing to give her the time of day. If she's flaky, a cheater, vindictive, dishonest, has conflicting beliefs, slanderous, treacherous, abusive, manipulative, a con artist, way too kinky, or has an STD, or has a drug problem or a lengthy rap sheet for some pretty serious offenses, it will trigger a bad memory. And I will look elsewhere. Ghosting will also destroy my trust in a hurry.
Well said. Although (without belittling your knowledge) anyone who has a girlfriend/boyfriend or interacts with lots of people in real life can easily spot the difference between El Blue Anonio and actual people.
Tech is definitely to blame. Introverts used to at least have to TRY to get out and talk to people in the real world, now they just sit at home spewing hatred. I don't even see the point of a woman liking them... because they wouldn't know what to do if one did anyway.
"Have you ever encountered a female movement that encourages hate and violence towards men"
Of course we have, and it's called feminism, and feminism is also the real reason so many men hate women today.
Your take is total nonsense.
Ok, this is dumb. I want through all of the comments and I think I'm a feminist damn it. But I know that everyone is their own person, there's nice guys, rude guys, guys who are creepy, etc. I don't go around saying all men are sexist douche bags. But that's all I see in the men's comments. I hate girls, there all rude and bitchy, "never go for the nice guys like me", I don't know how many of those comments I read but yeah I know some sluts, not everyone is like that though. You just need to look. Some of the rude girls are just insecure and don't know how to talk to guys properly, but they could have been raised by a hooker, if your raised by a hooker you act like a hooker. Seriously stop being immature, get off your lazy ass and you'll find the girl for you, she's out there you just need to look.
they said that because at some point of their life they were burned and now they are wary about the opposite sex... it has nothing to do with being immature, those wounds need to get healed for some of them.
First, I'd like to say that I do NOT hate women in any way. That being said, I do have female friends, I kept trying, I kept working on myself etc and still no woman ever wanted to be with me. I never had even a kiss. Im not blaming women for that but I can't blame myself anymore either, since I tried everything. So the reasons you wrote are assumptions that do not apply in some cases (like my case). Other than that, its a good take. I am 100% against mgtow and similar bullshit
Well you are 19, so don't give up now you have plenty of time
@frozenhorizon no I don't. You see, in my environment the first kiss happens at 12. The first sex? At 15. And I literally don't know anybody who never had a kiss, and over 90% of them are sexually active. So if there ever was any chance for me, something would have happened. A billion times by niw. Like it did for everybody else
If you don't hate women then you are miles ahead of the people I wrote this take for. I'm sorry to hear about your situation, but you are really young. I was never paid attention to until past 20.
As I wrote to the other guy, I live in a very promiscuous environment. There aren't any 16 year olds who never had a kiss, and most of them have an active sex life. So being 19 here without a kiss is a lot worse than in your country/environment. I wrote the opinion just to point out that the things you listed aren't always the reason somebody can't get any girl
And keep in mind that a lot of people lie about their experience. There are way more people in their 20s who never had a first kiss than we think, simply because these people hide that about them.
Not here. In the age of social media and similar bullshit its really hard to lie. And the people I am talking about, I have seen them all kissing somebody (either in person or on a photo on social media). So yeah, I am literally the only loser here.
May the force be with you.
So you think that MGTOW is bullshit.
Tell me if you think that after you have been arse raped by a divorce court.
@cth96190 shut the fuck up retard. Read my take on mgtow, you have all the eplanation there. I don't have the nerves to try to explain it here to your weak retarded mind
@frozenhorizon hehehe... hell yes... he does have plenty of time...
@TheInvisibleMan I did read that take, well written. @cth96190 MGTOW IS bullshit, i like the idea behind why it started but not what its turning into.
@TheInvisibleMan
This 'weak and retarded mind' has two degrees (journalism and secondary education), a masters (history), a diploma in karate, a former commission in the Queen's army and a couple of medals in the bottom of the wardrobe.
What do you have, boy?
I hope that your mind expands beyond the current paradigm in which it operates. Life as a blue-pill mangina in a perpetual friend or rejection zone is hellish.
@cth96190 I just read your age. Thats sad. I mean your achievements are decent, but its sad that you are 59 and a part of a retarded online trend. That in 59 years you didn't learn how to be a man. You asked what do I have? I used to train basketball, handball, I've been swimming for 13 years, went on competitions and won medals. I trained karate and real aikido. Even a little bit of bodybuilding. I was into breakdance too. I play guitar, draw, cook, do spray paint art. I have a high school diploma in economics and as a chef. I used to work as a bartender and as security. I worked on construction sites a few times. Etc etc. And Im not even 20.
@TheInvisibleMan
I hope, sincerely, that you learn what MGTOW is really about and how the deck is stacked against men before you are arse raped by a divorce court.
As for 'did not learn to be a man' . . . . not if your definition is to offer yourself as a willing and defenceless victim for exploitation by the female collective.
As you travel through life, you will learn that much of what you have been told about female nature and the male/female dynamic has been lies that were intended to make you easier to exploit.
It is a pity that you did not persist with karate. It helps to create greater mental focus and clarity, which I believe you would find helpful.
If you are a decent human being (and you appear to be), you will find that few if any females will be interested in you until you are on the wrong side of 30.
After that, the (by then former) party girls will come sniffing around, once they realise that the exciting bad boys who made them wet and tingly at age 20 are losers.
@cth96190 you keep overlooking the obvious: don't find a bitch or a slut. find a normal woman. and you won't have any problems. rise up to the challenge. shying away from all women is immature and retarded. sure, there are plenty of bitches out there. but there are also plenty of great women.
@TheInvisibleMan
Once you have spent a few more years of lonely nights, been rejected a few hundred more times and then seen those same women throw themselves at psychologically and/or physically abusive mental defectives, time after time, you may come to the conclusion that the creature known as the NAWALT (Not All Women Are Like That) does not exist.
"Do not find a bitch, or a slut," you wrote.
Good luck with that. :-)
Even if you do manage to find what appears to be a NAWALT, they change after you marry them.
I doubt that anyone marries a woman thinking that she is anything other than a NAWALT, but half of the marriages end in divorce (nearly 80 per cent of which are initiated by the women).
I believe that, in your case, the question will be: how many times you are prepared to offer yourself for destruction in the Family Court before you realise that (a) there is no NAWALT and (b) with a 50 per cent risk of destruction the risk exceeds the real (or potential) reward.
@cth96190 thats why you don't dive into marriage head first. when you meet a woman you should spend a few years with her before getting married. and in those years, test her in a million different ways. if you are an intelligent and experienced guy, you can recognize if she is the real deal or not. no matter how good of an actor she may be, she can't play the role 24/7 year after year. eventually her true face starts showing.
@TheInvisibleMan
Perhaps Serbian women are different to women in the English-speaking world, although you write English as though it was your first language (and in a distinctly American way).
Here in Australia, all that changes is the degree to which women are toxic. The further that one moves away from large cities, the more that the quality of the women (as human beings) improves.
When one of the hats that I wore was that of the dining and entertainment writer for the newspaper in Australia's glitter strip (the Gold Coast, which is like a combination of aspects of Las Vegas, Hollywood and Miami) I used to derive dark satisfaction by drinking coffee at a street cafe in the nightclub district, watching gorgeous young women walk past in the company of men who looked as though they should have been on wanted posters, or were on their way to a casting for a remake of Planet of the Apes.
I hope that your plan works for you, but bitter experience tells me that it will not.
@cth96190 oh I don't plan on getting married. I am just saying there is a way for those who do. maybe it really is different in Australia, I don't know about that. However I plan on moving to Australia, in 5-6 years (hopefully)
You can move to a different environment if you think that's the real issue
@frozenhorizon no, not because of that. Its just awful living here, our salaries are albanian, our prices are german. there is crime and corruption everywhere, and you can never achieve anything in this country unless you are a criminal. and i want to move, but as i said, its gonna take 5-6 for me to get whats neccessary so i could file for a visa
Before you jumped straight into whether men have psychological issues that make them hate women illogically, did you ever consider whether or not any of the complaints of those men were legitimate and whether we should be pissed about those things? Because if you did not take the time to think about that, then none of what you wrote has any merit.
I honestly have no idea what you mean by men hating women, I'm pretty sure if they all hated us then everyone would be single and depressed. lol, the ones that truly hate women probably are angry that their "Nice guy" ego is making it to where they don't get dates.
I treat everyone as human beings. I won't be kind to people, women or men, that are rude, noisy, selfish etc... But i don't remember what was the last time i hated someone. Hate is a strong word. I guess guys that screw up with a girl or they got hurt by a girl, will feel that way for a bit. it's also applied to girls ("all the men are the same", "all men suck" etc). people- you can't live with them and you can't live without them.
Have you ever considered maybe women are at fault, or lets say a portion of women are at fault. Why am i even hiding it, i might as well say that the hatred from feminism has produced a counter culture of men who no longer partake in society.
Why do men wind up hating women? All they have to do is read this board and a few others like XOJane or Jezebel to really get a picture of what women are like.
Those stories are generally pure XX plutonium.
The truth ^. Funny thing is women generally don't comment on logical things of which are against women on this site.
I have seen equally as bitter women around here as there are guys.
I think the explanation isn't as complicated as you make it. People just are more likely to wallow in their self-pity and victimhood and due to the possibilities for everyone to share shit online it is more noticable for the rest of us.
From the looks of it, it seems MGTOW is starting to hit women hard in their entitlement years. Sorry to inform you that your free ride is over. You're going to get "equality" whether you like it or not.
is this a mystery?
look at the fucking stakes just to settle down for men
they do less, capable of less, essentially contriibute nothing to less than half of finances, state girves them rights to legally steal half of his welath, but they act entitlted.
i didn't even need to read this stupid article
things are pretty much given to them and they act like assholes who think they earned it. thats why
it demoralizes them, it makes them bad working royalties and no one corrects them becaues everyone wants to fuck them
so picutre a spoilt bratt and give them tits and power to concieve a child
I never had the things women desired in a man which will result in my ever lasting depression, loneliness and need for affection.
But when it comes to the core, women just want someone ultra handsome or very wealthy to steal his money or both. Thats why most women want sugar daddies, to be strippers, prostitutes and have no means to become wealthy any other way which is one of the reasons why you can't really respect most women
You're 20.
@BigBallerSodaPop yep and girls my age are trying to become the lowest of the low. Are you satisfied?
I find men who hate women absolutely hilarious. People in general take out their own failings on other people.
I think this site attracts a large majority of men who have no clue how to interact with women in the real world. I have dozens of male friends, and none of them feel this way.
Nobody I know feels this way, either. Then again, I'm not really friends with any asocial weaklings, so I'm biased.
@HungLikeAHorsefly Hahaha. Well put, my friend.
Very good read. This is something that lately I have been starting to notice whenever I am online. I see so many men bashing females, its sickening to see all the time.
Sadly you and the majority of the population are not equally sickened by the unceasing onslaught of aggression, insults and hatred that men get. Do you know how bad things are when men try to get together and go to a talk that is discussing mens issues like their 4x higher suicide rate and the respnose is for women and feminist to march on them and cuss them out and scream out how misoginistic they are and how they are undeserving of life? Do you know how bad it is when thats acceptable behavior so long as its directed at men? No, because you have the privilege of mattering to society because of your genitals. Actually look at the arguments, look at the data and you will see their is absolutely a reason for the anger and frustration. And its not hate, its near impossible for a man to hate a woman, unfortunatley the reverse isn't true.
Relationships are based on how you look and your physical features. Personality plays only a small part in love. Most bitter men and bitter women, are not exactly winners of the genetic lottery. Most members of the opposite sex have zero interest in them, so frustration, anger, and depression clouds their judgement.
I think one factor is that they are told women are the same as men. But as a group, women are inferior to men -on the basis by which men judge one another-. Note that I'm not saying women are inferior to men. I'm saying they are inferior on one particular basis.
https://i.imgur.com/FmkjWSl.jpg
I'm at the acceptance stage at this point. I can't change myself to become the desirable male that females want... but I can still live happier by enjoying the little things in life and not dwelling about stuff I don't really have control over.
Also I refuse to believe embracing solitude makes me a bad person somehow.
What's so wrong with you?
@BigBallerSodaPop I just got left out of the loop. I've never had the opportunities to experience a lot of the normal things that tend to happen in other peoples lives, but this doesn't really mean there's something inherently wrong with me since there are plenty of people out there who are objectively worse than I am (mentally, physically, financially) who are still able to find love.
This also doesn't mean I'll be alone forever, but I won't be finding a partner anytime soon. I fully expect to still be single within the next 5 to 20 years, and accepting this reality allows me to focus on more important things than wasting my time trying to win the affection of random girls and then feeling embarrassed/depressed when things inevitability don't work out.
I'd say it's more to do with the feminist movements blatant vocalisation of how much they hate men and the culture of men being guilty rapists and perverts who only view women as objects.