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Im still on Tinder for the awesome/cringy and fun pickup lines the girls there sent, always a moodbooster haha
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I used to have another dating site for fun. When I was like 12-14 but I didn't wanna meet anyone. But my friend convinced me to meet up a guy. And when we met "him" he wasent the guy in the pic he was older. And he came with a friend and told me his dead was gonna pick us up in his lamboghini. I Said I had to talk to my friend and we started running away. (Cause we were like 13 and he was like 25+).
And he kept looking for us. And he texted me saying you just lost your chance to the Lambo and all that shit and I Said I don't care about money and I apologiced. Then his friend started flirting with me and I turned it off cause what kind of friend does that? I still feel bad for running but I kinda understand it. He still follows me on instagram tho..
*dad not dead
Well thanks lol. Yeah I'm happy I got away who knows how it would go if I went with him🤔😅. But still feels rude some how.
@LeoElias thanks. Maybe you're right.
@LeoElias no don't be like that. I know I understand why I ran I just FEEL it was rude doesn't mean it was.
Tinder sucks. Not one serious boyfriend and only one decent hookup.
I only did it for a little while in law school.
@manmeat pretty good
I don't like it, but I always end up going back.
Everybody is there for hookups, but what bothers me is most girls are conceited as fuck (I talk about girls cause that's what I swipe on, I bet guys are the same). They just want the ego boost and to promote their IGs. Many times even though you match with them, they don't reply. They also very rarely text first, so it becomes quite tiresome to text first all the time. In the end you're just fucking around messing with them and if one is cool to not take it too seriously, you hook up and that's it.
Maybe you're just a 10 lol here in the Netherlands I gotta text first, just like in every other country I've lived in. Some will text first, but very very few in my experience. But my Tinder game sucks, so I ain't mad.
I've honestly never used it my friend. It just doesn't appeal to me, probably because I'm not the kind of person to go out in the dating market. I prefer to meet people organically through my normal life. I can understand why people use it though, I'm not knocking it.
Yeah, I'm not suggesting that you really need it, lol. Some people do, because life circumstances limit their social opportunities and I totally understand that.
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I never really installed it but my friend did. She said she had a really horrible experience, so she uninstalled it after just couple of weeks. She was looking for someone who is interested in more than just hookups, but almost all the guys just tried to get her to sex, some pretended to be interested in her but when she met couple of guys. It turned out they were too touchy feely with her. One got so obsessed that he called her from different numbers even after she told him she doesn't want to talk to him anymore and blocked him.
So, yes, it wasn't a nice experience for her 🙄 But, hey, it's nice to hear that you had fun!
I tried it. I had three great dates from it (just not good timing or not compatible). The rest that I matched with either wanted to marry me right off the bat or just wanted to see my boobs. There was no in between. I even had one guy who's opening line was "We need to make a baby asap because that kid would be hot."
The three that I did meet were really great and were looking for a long term relationship.
So it's worth a look.
@massb
The first one was bad timing. We went on a couple of dates and then my mom got really sick and died. He didn't want to be around after that, understandably because that's too much pressure on a new relationship.
The second one I clicked with but he was dating another girl he had met. We had only had a few dates but that didn't sit well with me. I focus on one person at a time.
The last guy I met was probably the one that was most disappointing to not work out. We clicked intellectually and had really great physical chemistry. He told. me after our first date that he wasn't sure he was ready for a long term relationship for two reasons--- he was in AA and NA and had only been sober for 3 months and he was working on his EMT certifications. Although I thought 3 months sober was a great. feat, relapse chances were really high and I have a daughter to watch out for. So it was kind of a mutual idea.
But I'm really glad that none of those worked out because I may have never met my boyfriend that I have now, who is my dream guy.
Sorry for the novel!
Tinder is the ultimate Hot or Not swipe app. Very little substance in profiles but easy infrastructure and plenty of people on it. If you got the patience and some damn good photos you will do just fine.
Yeah, these experiences are fun, but I have the feeling that you don't laugh with us, but at us. That being said:
My experience with this app/serivce/whatever, is following:
I set up a profile. Then "get to work", liking and disliking. And that's it.
People keep talking about how they talk with someone there and…I don't know, how the chat looks like. Seriously, I have 0 idea about…you know…general GUI stuff there, I haven't ever seen it working.
Context: like get about 85% of girls. I've been there for months. Cleared out everyone in my area. Several times.
What I've seen, however, is how tinder pushes their premium services, or whatever they call it. It's everywhere and it will not leave you alone. I remember this notification, that someone gave me like. I open the app, and…nothing. So…again. Just ad.
To conclude this, I despise tinder. BUT! It's a moneygrab. No, it's not dating app, silly you. It's moneygrab. And girls can probably use it for free, to get their ego boosts. Listing through guys like good on shelve. Not picking anything. In the opposite case it's pretty much the same, but guys give much more likes. But all of this is completely irrelevant, tinder is designed to get cash from you. Not get you date. That app is misleading, it lies to you.
I hooked up with 3 or 4 girls on there. Right now I am establishing a friends with benefits with this girl I'm talking to. She's pretty cautious and wants to talk and chill for awhile before doing anything which I'm used to girls diving right in so it's a slow process.
The last girl I did a friends with benefits with totally ruined it. She got attached so fucking fast. We were barely having sex for two weeks when she started acting like a girlfriend. We lived a few hours apart which sucked but I was the one who would drive and meet her at her place. She met at my place probably two times out of the many times I went to her. And she started acting jealous when I wouldn't text her back right away or if she heard I was talking to some other girl. And she told me she wanted to move and live right next to me and we were only having sex for barely a month when she said that. She went from being a chill fuck buddy to a crazy girlfriend. I told her multiple times I didn't want a relationship. She always acted like she was cool but she wasn't. She was fucking crazy. I ended up ghosting her.
Although I didn't have any specific goals, I was open to going on dates and maybe even a relationship. Just wanted to see if it was as bad as my friends told me. Made it clear from the start I wasn't interested in hookups / friends with benefits. I went on a couple of dates with guys and had fun! I actually had a lot of fun/silly conversations and discovered a lot of new music and games :)
My conclusion: fun to pass some time when you're bored, don't take it too seriously (some people really hope to find the love of their life). I think it's wrong to say: "there are only guys who want to hook up", because there are really some nice, decent people! (+ there are also girls who only want to hookup and don't respect guys)
a lot of matches basically 2 or 3 every 2 or 4 days
At the start - first week of using like 30 matches
After 4 months of using it i found my girlfriend so i guess its good :)
I didn't do any pickup lines and any of that bullshit
I said to every girl i wanna get to know you better if u are looking for a clown that will entertain you 24/7 go to the circus because im not this kind of dude , some of them unpaired me after hearing tha i dont give a F about attention seeking thots
I had some girls that from the start told me hey i wanna fuck with you - i said hey i dont
And after like 70-90 matches i can't remember i found my girlfriend 9 months in relationship together now
I actually found my boyfriend of a year on there. He was one of the rare ones. It took me a while.
Aww thanks! He's a sweetheart, my friend met her husband on there and another one of my friends met her boyfriend of 2 years on there. :)
Bahahaha we did! It just takes time!
Any tips? Because it seems like most of them only want to hook up. Even after they’re told you’re more than a hookup🙄.
@Heyyyyhoneyyyyyy He broke up with me a few hours ago.. :/ I wouldn't reccomend tinder.
I’m so sorry that happened to you. Be strong. I know it’s easier said than done, it’s the worst feeling in the world but take a breath and block him out. What was his reason?
I tried bumble. Met a guy on there. Haven’t met in person yet. I want something real. He’s iffy and wants to focus on him only. He’s honest at least.
I ended up using tinder as a joke because i was at a sleepover. because i am underaged this guy somehow found out about it and he stalked my house and said to me "nice smart tv" and I have a smart tv so he basically found out where i lived. He also said he called the cops and me and my friend ran away for 2 hours. Turns out he didn't but im still on edge every time i go out into public. Since he only lives 13 k's away from me. Other then that i got a lot of swipes and 48 matches and 99+ likes. I soon deleted it not wanting or just in case to use it anymore. I might use it when i am 18 because there are some great guys on there
I made a fake account using a german models personal images, to see how women would react.
Women are a million times more disgusting than males when it’s a male they want.
Males have a wider range of female looks that we find attractive, while women have a narrower interest range. But when they do see a guy they find “hot”, they are graphic, perverse, blunt, and outright aggressive.
The same women who call me perverts for having sexual interest in women, are pigs when they find a guy they want to have sex with.
I once made a profile there out of curiosity to see what all the fuss is about and deleted it out of boredom.. Disgusting
I don't think any serious person takes Tinder seriously.
Dating/hookup apps in general are full of creeps, weirdos, losers, boots and insecure people looking for an ego boost but this one is the worst. You ain't gonna meet any quality person there for sure.
I'm surprised someone as you, uses it. I mean someone with your personality and looks shouldn't have trouble meeting people/making friends
You’d be surprised. Some people don’t have time to meet guys/girls. I figured I would give it a chance... it wasn’t my thing. I’m also one of the better looking people with personality. Finding someone is hard enough, you’d think you could find at least one person.
I've had amazing experiences!! Im young so tinder is just how people find dates so in my age group there is a decent amount of people looking for relationships. There are plenty of people looking for hookups but if u put "no hookups" in the bio, it's easy to avoid them. The guy im dating rn is from tinder. :)
It's full of immature boys who are more interested in going to Magaluf and music festivals with the boys, than having a serious relationship and just want to hook up. They usually don't know how to court a girl at all and have no respect for women. I wouldn't use it again.
Well it is a hookup app after all, if you're looking for something serious, try match, bumble and pof.
@fuzzyllama It was advertised more as a dating app and then people turned it into a hook up app. I used POF and found my boyfriend on that.
I never installed but I know one of my friend had more thousands of matches. He lives in Germany tho..
Wait I am gonna upload his photo;)
His thick 88 staft 😍😍😍
I use it to meet people I’m too shy to approach in real life 😂
This one guy became really obsessed with me after our one and only date and still messages me with new numbers I haven’t blocked yet occasionally
I haven’t really had too many success stories because most of the more basic guys I meet from there seem weirded out or scared of me 😂
Like it’s only ever the models and busy people who don’t have time to meet up a lot who make clear moves on me
I have never used tinder. But I love to read tinder stories on Reddit :D
I've never had tinder but I did sit with a friend while she swiped left and right. Was interesting to see but I'd never get it. I knew a lot of the guys on there and you just know anyway that it's just for a hookup and nothing more.
talked to one guy that seemed like he actually wanted a girlfriend, but knowing dudes they’ll lie in order to get laid. around 5 others that were really hot. never met up with any of them. but there is one that im still talking to since November and we’ve hung out twice so far after months of talking and we’re gonna hang out again soon. he’s really a lucky catch and im not sure what he’s looking for but right now we’re pretty good friends. nothing romantic in any way.
You can't just assume guys lie about wanting a relationship just to get laid, girls can do exactly the same shit as guys do. We aren't always the bad ones
I found the girls too easy. The difference in speed with which a girl on tinder can decide you're a worthy mate in comparison to meeting a girl through some kind of spontaneous circumstance is massive. I slept with girls on the second or third date several times.
I totally lost my appetite for meeting girls through online dating apps after that.
Agreed. I don’t sleep with anyone unless I’m official with them. All of these girls who make it easy programmed guys into thinking all women are like that. I don’t use apps at all anymore. They’re awful. You might me one in a million. But even there’s something wrong w them.
@Heyyyyhoneyyyyyy Yeah, that kind of programming isn't helpful. The way I understand it is, women who're ready to sleep with a man after just two or three encounters push down the "price of sex" radically for the gender as a whole. Maybe that's ultimately good, who knows, but it just puts a bad taste in my mouth when all I have to do is take a girl out to espresso house, buy her an orange juice (or she even pays for it), be nice and flirty, and soon we're on our way to my place to watch a movie under the bedsheets. It's crazy.
I don't think the radical opposite of abstinance until marriage is the right place either, but we're definitely too far off at the moment.
Yeah that’s a bit much.
Shallow as fuck.
Mostly low quality individuals.
Selfproclamed nonsense.
Validation to bost exterior confidence.
Huckups, a lot of female's that claims they are only after serious but are only after sex/free thing/dating kicks.
Lazy females.
Underage females that claims they are right age to lose virginity or sell you something.
Females that can't build deep connection or seduce anything.
..
The list goes on.
lots of hot guys on there... but u have to pay to stay relevant
i mean like if u want use the app you have to pay for some features
Try to see if I can find women willing to have casual sex with a married man. Not that many, but good sexting with a few of them. I would say 70% looking for a strong relationship, 20% eastern girls looking for a western husband, 5% looking to sell their 'services' and 5% any thing else.
It's useful if you want to practice talking to women who have nothing better to do than get male attention, otherwise, best to look elsewhere.
I have had dozens upon dozens of matches, only 3 dates and 1 girl ended up being a short term girlfriend but I honestly had doubts about her from the get-go.
People go on that app from loneliness, but most of the app is bad company. Personally, I'd rather be alone than in bad company.
@LeoElias We weren't at all compatible and had entirely different expectations for relationships that were not shared. She was a major Disney geek and believed men should have 100% of the financial burden, she also did not at all reciprocate sexually. She admitted that she was purposely trying to find things wrong in our relationship.
Had a bad experience once, when I started dating this guy from tinder that I liked and he turned out to have been lying about deleting his profile on there and and used it to on me since day one. But I have a really good experience now - have been with him for over 2 months now and I’ve never in my life been happier in a relationship.
**used it to cheat on me
no used it for one day
got a few matches and just gave up on it
I come from a time
of approaching women in person
it's a lot more fun
but the women have gotten
stupid so I don't approach anymore
plus MGTOW and redpill are out
so it's a waste of time dating women HOT OR NOT
I suck at tinder, I actually am a really bad texter.
The thing is I am really confident in real life but over text I suck. People do have a tendency of being fake online to grab a date while I play the game of you get what you see. Less chicks but less bullshit too.
My boyfriend and I met on tinder lol but we definetly weren't on tinder to find a relationship we both just wanted a one night stand but we had crazy chemistry and now we have been together over a year it's like the one night stand that never left
I've only used it once when i was in new york for like a week cos i was pretty sure there are a lot of cute guys there lol and i was right. The conversation was fun and all but when the guy asked if id like to meet in person i freaked out and didn't go through with it...
The spinning tinder fingers works. Unattached me and I just wait. Then I pick out the ugly ones who are easily turned on and make my own poem with them for poem hub.
They are so thirsty its fun and east clean pussy. So far up to 27 and climbing. I have 2 on the hook for tonight who want a three some.
Still use it, but never had any luck. A few matches, but ultimately I dont get matches very often and when I do I have very breif chats. Basically always get ghosted, which pisses me off lile at least tell me your not interested instead of ignoring me. No dates yet or any actual luck
I've had good experiences with it. I got to know some interesting people and I'm currently dating someone I met on there. We have a lot in common so things are going well so far. 😊
Is this the guy that cheated?
@xHoneyxBeex good, I'm glad this one is seemingly going better for you
I would ask for Tinder advice actually, but you don't seem to want to respond anymore
I was on there for a couple months and got 130 matches and like on half replied 😂😂i hooked up with like 5 of them and got head from a few it was alright. This was like last year and some of the girls still message me to hook up so there’s that lol. But most women just use it for a ego boost and not matter how good looking you are they won’t reply lol
I dont know where to start but to make the long story short I'll just say that a while back I had this theory that all women have prostitutes encoded in their DNA and Tinder pretty much proof my theory correct on this.
Lmao!!!
@hansukota its the truth, you do know action speaks louder than words right?
TInder yah, along with the popularity of Twilight and fifty shades of grey's massive popularity? I think the concept is similar and helps push the idea. If I ever use a dating app, it'll likely be Bumble as long as I can do a decently good profile description, readily sarcastic and post a picture making duck lips, one of me with cutesy cat ears, and one of me cupping and showing off my glorious man boobs. Then the wait to see the likely zero amount of women will bother to even consider talking to me as I shrug my shoulders and more easily find another guy I can have a good chat with after watching netflix and maybe some making out and cuddling session, cause a human with an actual soul and sense of humor and wit had been found.
and that human isn't a woman, but a man. Oh well, I do have a slight thing for long haired super metalheads. Maybe it'll get more intense as time goes on.
@errorgoodnameunfound Bumble is no different. in fact I heard people say that shit is a lot more feminized than Tinder for the fact that only women are allow to make the first move there. which of course this is nearly impossible for it to ever happen unless you look like Tom cruise or are filthy rich
"Then the wait to see the likely zero amount of women will bother to even consider talking to me as I shrug my shoulders and more easily find another guy I can have a good chat with after watching netflix and maybe some making out and cuddling session, cause a human with an actual soul and sense of humor and wit had been found." My other part. Fully agree with ya. It's about the only sort of app for dating I'd get if at all, and I know full well even then it probably sucks. Hell, maybe the 15 supposed matches I'd get with 2 messages not going much more than "Hi". "Hiya" "So what restaurant ya wanna meet at? I'm thinking this super fancy one that just opened. Pick me up at 5?" "BYE" stuff proof would shut up people if they bug me for being single. Rather not just become a free food ticket but proof that shit exists is good to have.
Yeah it’s so hard to find anything real nowadays.
All of the girls who sleep around make it hard for good girls like me that don’t do that.
I had to explain to a guy from bumble that I don’t sleep around and I’m not that kind of girl and he keeps messaging me at late times. He was like “I never said you would spread your legs” ... like I’ll hangout with him at his place as friends because he clearly doesn’t wanna go out on a date... just to get a feel for him but I’m nervous he’s only going to want to fuck me. I explained it to him so many times I’m not like that.
@Heyyyyhoneyyyyyy I'd think twice about going to his place honestly. It's understandable he wants no dates as he likely doesn't want to risk being the free meal ticket I mentioned. Yet then again, going to his place first thing and constant messaging... eh... no public place to meet first? Seriously? Doesn't have to be a date to just go to a mall or some shit, sit n talk. No obligations to buy. Hell, meet at a Walmart if needed and shop together. That way if he wants to be so economical, you can see if he's serious about it. Though I have doubts he'd say OK to it. So why not just a movie you each pay for yourselves? Jeez.
@Heyyyyhoneyyyyyy Please be careful about home visits. I get it's often one of the most convenient ways, but there is always risk.
So what should I say to him? Should I put my foot down and snap at him lol
I keep telling him I’m not that type
@Heyyyyhoneyyyyyy You may have to, yes. If you don't want to bang, you don't have to. Hell, a good tactic I think may be to say "listen dude. I know other girls get wet at the thought of a penis, regardless of the shock they may get when it can't grow as long and thick as their dildos, much less satisfy to the same level, but I'm not that type, as penises are as much part of the body as a rib. There's no way we can just catch a movie or enjoy some shit at taco bell, whilst paying for our own stuff and get to know each other before just using my blobs of fat as your entertainment? Cause if not, I don't know what we are gonna do besides waste both our time and Bumble for now has plenty of options. If you wanna bang so badly, there's likely an app for that or a cheap sex doll Amazon has on sale." The kind of bluntness in something like that, as well as showing dominance over knowing and protecting one's own body is the kinda thing that can either snap him into reality or have him ghost you. Either one is better than constant encouragement of sex with a likely shroom I'm pretty sure. May end up having to look for somebody else, but the mess it may have saved you from is likely worth it.
Lol agreed I’ve been in some iffy situations before!
I’ll just say “I don’t have sex unless I’m dating someone or serious, I don’t sleep around and think you have the wrong impression of me.” “I’d have to know you before doing that”
I have said something like that before like why can’t you have sex with one of your whores and he said he doesn’t have any whores. He’s not talking to anyone etc.
I honestly think he’s completely single... like alone, alone. Kind of like I am.
He and I both have been in relationships for awhile before this. And we’re finally free. We talked about all of this.
I mean if anything I’m sure he has a girl or two he uses for sex but I’m not one of them. He always asks me to come over.
I’m human, of course I want him. We’re both attracted to each other.
But I’d like to know him better. I told him I’m not a whore.
I don't know... he saved my two nudes I sent last night.
We talk and get along. But I do think he’s forcing himself to back off so he doesn’t start liking me lol.
I don't know. He’s very confusing.
Tinder in my opinion is 50% hos and 50% fat hos. Every girl on there just wants to fuck. I put as my profile no hookups and a sentence about how i believe in traditional relationships and dating and how im christian. I literally got a match and the girl asked if id fuck her anyways casually because she always wanted a hot manly guy to hook up with. Smh. I dont use it any more because of this.
Wrong. And the ones who aren’t hoes like myself get approached like one. They made every guy think that every woman is easy.
Like I can’t use the apps at all. They’re dating apps not fucking app- go on fucking craigslist if you’re a hoe.
@Heyyyyhoneyyyyyy i feel like when im forward that im not looking for a hookup that girls get scared away. Like eww a man who wants a relationship something must be wrong with him. But then if i get more flirty girls try to get sexual right away. And if i dont do either how would they even know im interested? Lol.
Go for the girls who aren’t whores. Give girls like me hope. Good girls have it so bad nowadays because of these hoes.
Like no one even goes on dates anymore.
If I’m not official with a guy he’s not getting sex. I might possibly give a bj or handy if I’m feeling generous...
But that’ll have to be after like a month.
They act like I owe them something. And they’re not even taking me out.
No personal experience. Though three of my good friends (both girls and guys) have used tinder. None had actual success on it in terms of relationships but they did get some dates
If you're not good-looking, you get a match roughly once a month and she doesn't even talk to you when you message her. So for me, it was completely pointless. I have no idea why I even kept the app on my phone for more than a year.
I was on it for 20 minutes and decided never again. People on there are so shallow and are as interesting as watching paint dry.
that British female backpacker got killed because she met a stranger from tinder.
A lot of criminals use tinder.
Once a guy had a fake picture, got nudes from 16 year old girls and blackmailed.
I used it for one day for an ego boost. I got like 99+ likes within few hours. I deleted it after I saw that lol. There were some cute guys on there but not a lot. All the guys I thought were cute swiped right on me so that was cool. I don’t ever plan on downloading it again tho
@massb because most guys on there just want to hook up
I tried it out of boredom and curiosity.
After 15 minutes of cringy photos, lame pickup bio and swiping left, I uninstalled it.
really tom,
you invited me here
i've never been on tinder lmfoa
wait a moment
yesss
I am not into casual sex/hookups so I have never used tinder.
it crossed my mind many times, i briefly made an account and i guess i just attracted the thirsty guys, but at least they were upfront about it.
Had one match where I got ghosted after a few days of talk. None since. Probably need to change my pictures
I met a serious boyfriend off it two years ago. We dated 5 months. And I occasionally use it for window shopping but I don't swipe right on anyone. I'm not ready to date again yet
tell us about the crazy one? So it wasn't all about sex to you but meeting... that's new.
I haven't used it.
With the exception of getting tricked by fatties on occasion, I had a really good experience on tinder. I was getting laid by different women a few times each week
> Be me
> Considered signing up for Tinder
> Go to Tinder app
> See's that facebook is required for Tinder to work
> Nein! No facebook!
> I let it go
I'm not a slut like u, so no I don't use tinder😏
@Tyliah momma cos beat this big fat meanie up for me😭 teach him that havin a big vocabulary isn't a bad thing
A lot of 'sluts' tend to use snapchat dog filters on their pictures too...
@MirrorStage chill the fuck out it's an inside joke😂
Omfg I'm triggered now, I think she downvoted my opinion 😱
Bitch I'm ur couch buddy!
Fine I'll accept a 6 pack 😑
But then u have to do the splits to remain my couch buddy😏
And touch ur toes
Not as painful has it will be if u don't do has we say😡😠
Zilch?
Not one match, nor one reply. When taking advice from people that actually get matches, you start looking at all your selfies and go back to believing you're a horrifically ugly gutter dweller with down syndrome
I’ve never used tinder. The guys on there just seem like a bunch of desperate fuck boys looking for nothing more than a shag.
Just to meet new people. Had to stop it after a while, almost everyone on it is psychotic
Never used a online dating site or computer dating.
I used to picked up women the old fashion way. In a bar, store or any place in person
Matching is easy enough...
Moving beyond that, into something real
Or even something casual
Has been pretty tough.
No luck so far.
Had some fun conversations with some gals, but I wouldn’t take Tinder seriously at all.
I’ve had a lot of men offer me to be a sugar baby and couples looking for threesoms what is my life
you accept them?
Experiences? Well, swiping on people and never being matched with anyone. Or the extremely rare one or two I did match with, they immediately unmatched us lol. So I guess it was their mistake?
desperate app, when person can't find gf/bf or hook up its so sad.
I'll own up to it right now, the only matches I get, of the very few I've had, are escorts or scammers.
Well the usage of tinder differ from country to country it might be used as hooking stuff in west but it is used to meet people in eastern countries
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