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As MzAsh said, not if the woman is choosing her partner properly... I actually tend to believe the opposite: that women bring the men down and men build the women up.
If you don't believe me, GAG is clear evidence. The men talk about how much they've been rejected and how insecure women have made them after they've supposedly been so good to her and all that. I've seen women post some of this too, but it's mainly the guys. And you'd think it would be the other way around, like in the question you asked. Biologically speaking, that's how it's supposed to be, but now we have feminism and MGTOW and all that.
No. It's definitely the other way around. The guys are becoming more insecure, and the women (mainly feminists) are becoming stronger, although I'm not a feminist.
Biologically men and women should be building each other up (and despite popular claims (thanks to feminists)) this was the case through out history. We where built to work with each other and feminist turned that so we work against each other. The problem is men are biologically wired to protect women but what can they do when women say that men are the enemy? We have to destroy ourselves to do the job we are biologically wired to do, again thanks to feminism, so now we are left well, broken.
I think it's true with Both Genders actually. It's just that it is more Pronounced with Women Building up their men than Men building up women. Usually society sees Men in Strong Support Role and woman in the Weaker Submissive Role. But their are plenty where Men Build up their Woman and some of those Women Damage the Men just some Men Damage the Woman that Builds them up.
more Pronounced with Women Building up their men than Men building up women. That is really it in a nutshell!
Thank you.
She said what I wanted to say. Thank you @Moonchild714
You're welcome @Mrwonder
Uuhh not if those women are filtering their options properly. He shouldnāt be damaging.
So it's not the man that damages them... it's themselves by building up the wrong men?
Let me ask you something... why do women do that? Do they think it builds loyalty with that man? Do they even know deep down it's the wrong man?
Women will idealize and fantasize a guy not good for them into a delusion that they are better than what they really are. Then enters the āheroā delusion in which a woman thinks a woman is destined to fix whatever she thinks is wrong with him. Maybe sheās afraid heās the best she can get or maybe she wants him to idolize her for helping him become better.
Now that is interesting. That totally makes sense to me!
That's straight 2the chest w that arrow!!! OOUCH
Disagree , as shit people come all varieties. The rates of socio / psychopathy , and other personality disorders are even between the genders , it 's the " Women Are Wonderful Effect " at work , in which BOTH genders view females much more positively than males , know this too well , esp as a single parent !! The BS Western " media " inflames this , and has a default very negative view of males , males are depicted as defective , innately evil , sex crazed moronic idiots , that needs a woman to wipe his arse for him , whereas females are portrayed as angelic beings that do no wrong , and can do it all... and " don't need no man " too !! One of many reasons why I do not date , is that the takers far outnumber the givers.
I respect your opinion! Thanks for the comments man!
I usually tend to hit agree or disagree with your questions, but this is a definite OTHER. This is one situation where I would say: I fail to reject the premise here.
Are there women who experience that? Definitely. Are they many? Probably. Are they "too many"? Maybe. 🤷āāļø
In any case, even if it's just one, that's one too many if you ask me.
Out of my personal observations: I can think of 2 specific couples where that happened. However, I've observed many more couples where a women supports her man until he becomes successful, and they stay loyal to each other.
Well to be fair... I kind of put people in a box so I do appreciate the "other" comments! I mean these questions can go either way for the most part so... I hear ya!
I really appreciate that. Some questions out there have nothing but yes/no, when many may find them more complicated than that.
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Wow - that's a pretty deep question coach. And kind of one-sided, dontcha think?
While this may happen a lot - no idea what the numbers are - I think the opposite is happening just as much. And hundreds of other relationship scenarios.
I have this mindset because every person in the world was brought up differently, and they all have different ways of handling various types of stress.
Plus, I just totally disagree (personally) with the statement. :-)
Why can't it be one sided?
Because it's just as prominent on the other side. I guess it just comes down to opinion on this one.
This is essentially a longer version of the lock and key metaphor (each time a key opens a lock, that lock basically adds to its functionality, each time a lock gets opened by a key, that lock is basically damaged from the perspective of the next key). Men who agree with the lock and key metaphor and disagree with this are simply sloppy thinkers.
Well.. uh... hmmm... ummmm... look man I am drinking right now so I am just going to say... I AGREE 100% sounds good!
😂 thatās hilarious!!!
To a degree, yes I believe that to be true. Sometimes, there will be men out there who allow and encourage this āride or dieā mentality only to leave you when theyāve finally gotten to where they wanted to be in life.
Same thing with women of course but Iāve personally seen this type of thing more with guys.
Love the answer!!! Makes total sense except for "that's hilarious"?
Ohhhhhh... I see! okay makes sense!
"š that's hilarious!!!"
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"To a degree, yes I believe that to be true."
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I believe it goes both ways. Some men will stay with a woman that helps them for as long as she is of use to them. Woman the same. Some people are not out there to find a lasting relationship, just ones of convenience and for what that other person can do for them, or what they can get. Once those options are depleted, they move on. Sometimes leaving behind a heart broken and devestated heart. Sometimes an overdrawn or depleted bank account or both.
I think it goes both ways. I've had a couple of girlfriends completely destroy me. One spent 6 years destroying my confidence, destroying my independence. She was emotionally, physically and financially abusive and left me broken for a long long time.
Almost 10 years later I still carry a lot of that baggage, the insecurity etc.
I have "repaired" a couple of broken women, both being in relationships with them and as friends.
I dont think gender really matters, I think both males and females are just as capable and likely to leave a former partner destroyed. Both males and females are just as capable of building their partner up as well.
Well you ain't wrong!
No man can damage me! Iām either too resilient or too oblivious! I tell myself the former
LOL I know I know!
I've been w/a guy who literally pretended to be the type of guy that I liked just to use me & then completely stopped talking to me like I was a nobody. I know there are a few guys out there that are not like this but most of the time these are the type of men I run into so it makes it hard to want to be genuine to a man that is deserving.
Sounds like you dodged a bullet!
I like the guys that don't mistreat people to get what they want, they're respectful, honest & have a good heart. They do their best to take care of themselves/ priorities the best they know how.. I believe I may have a soft spot when I see someone that looks as though they are changing for the better but I've spent time working on not giving those people an extra chance (s). It's a slow process for me unfortunately
I agree I just had to ask, and I know that faking shit, so it's the reason I'm asking how do you separate men who really are doing the effort, to men who just fake it.
I would give you three clues:self sacrifice, respect and empathy.
Because if a person wants to change but hurts people to their environment then they don't want to change to good.
People who want to be the best versiĆ³n of themselves are givers.
(not providers, givers its a different concept)
Let's say you want to change your physical effort, and stay 5 years on gym, after it, you may have a great body or a medium one, (genetics play its role) but what is sure is that you have made mistakes and solved them so you can give good advices, it's to give, just because you want.
Same to all things they do, to want a change implies to work on it, and to work on it to learn about it.
All the process gives you a lot of things you can give.
The first thing you must ask yourself to separate men who really are on the way, and people who fake it is... What is he giving to me?
And material things aren't useful to measure it, just energy and feelings.
It seems to be the other way around for me and my most recent ex. I clearly built her confidence up and got her used to a man's company to the point where she thinks she is dateable (albeit incorrectly).
On my side, she's greatly damaged my trust in women thanks to her lack of honesty and other issues as well as the way she handled things (or didn't handle them, in some cases). Apparently, I've been lucky for the most part prior to her.
If you aren't both building each other up in a relationship there is something severely wrong.
I can't disagree!
I disagree.
Women have caused me so much psychological damage that I no longer have what is considered to be a normal range of human emotions.
Also, I expect rejection, or betrayal, before it happens.
I have yet to be wrong, which is why I do not believe in unicorns.
Well I am not saying it doesn't work both ways... but it doesn't mean it's not true for women.
No. We all learn from relationships whether we want to or not. Itās how we use it going forward that determines if we are damaged. Once someone is fine they are gone and how you are depends on you.
I do think there are some serious sociopaths out there in any gender.. but it only works if their partner ignores what they want or accepts what they donāt want.
We all know if something feels right.. we have to listen.
Oh brother. Letās compare the number of women who actually ābuiltā a guy up to the number of men who have carried 2-5 women on his fāking back like deadweight & provided 95-100% of everything they wanted yet at the end of the day she divorces/dumps him for a broke dude or a guy with more resources. But letās not call that damaging to the guy because who cares about his feelings.
I disagree. I don't think it's a matter of gender, it's something rather individual. Your attitude will determine how you cope with broken relationships and how you carry your lesson forward. Man or woman it applies to all.
Unfortunately I learned this the hard way. Fortunately, there is nothing damaging about my current partner
If there is any amount of this, it is too much. But that doesn't mean there's a huge amount of this, or that it happens more that way round than the other, or that there aren't related but different patterns that are more common.
Therefore the answer may be "Yes", but not in a significant way as the question seems to imply, which is why I chose 'Other' in the poll.
Every woman is damaged with every subsequent relationship... I think the two are mutually exclusive. I don't think i've ever seen an AWESOME boyfriend leading a woman to treat subsequent bf's better and better. Hell the divorce rate shows how that ends up. Hypergamy and pair bonding won't allow it.
OH look at that split lol! Its not even close.
I think the situation used to be like that... now a days is 50-50...
Absolutely could very well be!
Most relationships I've been in, the guy has gone onto be with other women and treated them better than they ever did with me. Is it because I've 'built him up' or is it due to age that he's learnt the way he treated me was wrong.. Who knows?
Women don't build up nothing. They just tear down. They're juicers they squeeze all the juice out of a guy and move on to the next one.
This is why a guy should NEVER define himself by what any woman thinks of him.
I agree with this for a lot of people, but also men do the same thing. I'd say today it's still kind-of equal, but you're right - it's becoming more prevalent that women are the ones breaking the men down.
Not saying that I do this myself by the way... just throwing that out there :)
Yep. Thatās why I have high standards and I never date broke men with any kind of issues.
This objectification of men is exactly why things like MGTOW and men's rights movements were begun. It's further proof of the caste system today, where people don't love each other, instead loving money.
Let's spin your comment to say men wouldn't date a girl who was broke or had issues. How would you feel?
Itās okay. Iām financially stable, and donāt have any issues. Not to mention that men care more about look than money, not to mention that I workout to stay thin and Iām pretty, so Iām even okay with a man who refuse to date a fat ugly chick lmao.
Most men wonāt give an ugly woman a chance, just like most women wonāt give a broke man a chance.
Stop acting like men only date women for their personalities and that they donāt want to receive anything lmao
Congrats on financial stability, but I would argue that you do have issues, specifically in the generalization of men in the rest of your reply. That's sexism, pure and simple, and I would say it's baseless since there's doubt that you've spoken to approximately four billion men in the world. What you're doing is called stereotyping.
The end of your statement also seems to be projecting toward me (since it is a reply to my reply). I never "acted like", or stated, that men only date women for their personalities. People have their own reasons, and as much as one may claim that they don't, or try to hide from it, their issues will be made plain eventually. What I did say was that you objectified men, and noted that sentiment is the reason for men's movements.
I really don't care exactly what you think, because you don't matter to me. I just like calling out narcissistic bull when I see it.
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