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Men far more loyal. If you would have used "faithful" in place of... Well then, I would humbly/reluctantly concur.
@AlphaBot Don't you think the Asker is using it interchangeably?Loyal: Giving or showing firm and constant support or allegiance to a person or institution.Faithful: Remaining loyal and steadfast; (of a spouse or partner) never having a sexual relationship with anyone else.Usually I like to use language quite specifically, but in this instance I don't see much difference between the two. 'Faithful' has been used as a euphemism for sexual fidelity, but loyal is broad and I would think can be applied to both, no? If men are having just as many or more affairs, how can they be considered more loyal?
Women are'nt more loyal , they're just more interested. And when they're interest diminish , they're interest are manufested and invested somewhere else.
@Djaay So true. Most young women aren't interested in rela commitment.
But men will stick in a bad marriage for years even if they look outside somewhat... they will not go esp. if children are involved and the shame associated with having a failure of a relationship...
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i mean we can't say in general,, i turned off my auto _correct lol
Just like girls being bitter they can't get guys. If You Think Guys Cheat More Then You're Wrong ↗
@Aiko_E_Lara yes they can.
So can guys. So your point is? I see double standards
@Aiko_E_Lara I just agreed with you that girl can get bitter too. My point is that here there are much more bitter guys here on this site than girls. You know it's true.
In your assumptions. And since when is assuming things the right thing to do? I guess it started when your'e born with your delusions.
@Aiko_E_Lara assumptions? Are you really calling me saying guys on this site are way more bitter than girls an assumption? And you called me the delusional one...
Well yes it's your assumption to say it because nothing to back up your claim. Also because it's true just like the fact that you're assuming guys are more bitter here even if you have no statistics about it.
Or maybe you can consider yourself one. Bitter about guys. Assumptions are based on feelings and feelings aren't logical. So if you're just gonna assume things, We all know how that makes you sound. Also I don't have to assume about you assuming men are more bitter. The question is about "men or women" so why are you only talking about guys? Actions speaks louder than words FYI so that's not an assumptions. Like for example we don't have to assume that the person committed crime when we saw it ourselves. As for you, you're saying "Guys stop being bitter you can't get girls. We cheat far more." In a "Men or Women" question. You're talking about guys and I'm a guy so I answered you. What's the matter?
Also I just wanna point out you're telling guys to stop being bitter. That's a command sentence. Not an opinionated sentence. So again your point?
@Aiko_E_Lara are you serious? Go around this site for 10 min! The amount of bitter guys in here is ridiculous! There are girls too, yes but not nearly as much. I don't need to make a statistical analysis to know this. Open your eyes is enough.
"yes but not nearly as much." Still no back ups for it. What if I told you, telling someone to just open their eyes doesn't really prove anything. Because I can also say you should open your eyes to see there are also many women here getting bitter. Just like arguing at your level hoping that would get me valid.
@Aiko_E_Lara you can say that and as an argument is as valid as mine. Even so come on! You really think on this site we have more bitter girls than guys? Be honest here! Not saying there are no bitter girls at all. Saying here, on this site, there are more bitter guys.
I'm not gonna assume anything. So do you ask me? I'm not someone who don't have a life who counts anything here even if they're my experiences. Also FYI what you experience is not what everyone else experience. That's why I said it's no one's fault you're surrounded by assholes.
@Aiko_E_Lara oh my... I even put it between commas that I was talking about this site. You only read what you want don't you? Here it's not an assumption.
FYI I'm a guy from this site and i just answered you so again what's the matter? You can ask yourself that one.
@Aiko_E_Lara you are not an accurate representation of guys here. And guys here are not an accurate representation of guys in the real world.
"Here it's not an assumption." coming from someone who can't even make a statistics about it also comming from someone saying statistics aren't accurate. It's still an assumptions. "Ive seen" <-- BS argumentum ad experientiam once again.
@Aiko_E_Lara how the hell do you want me to make a statistical analysis here about bitter guys? They will never admit it. But hey I think you have done it here by accident. 62% of guys here are bitter guys xDBefore you say something like "You are assuming this and that" That was a joke! In case you missed that.
That's not an excuse if you really want to claim anything about it. It is for you to figure it out because you're such a mister smart guy claiming that 62% of guys doing it. You know who else won't admit? Girls as well. So is that 62% of yours without any evidence is already based on assumptions. It is not a fact
So now it is a joke? You're just going to contradict everything at the end do you? I actually done it here facing a bitter women about men but i argued with facts not feelings. Because i'm not a better angry men with women issues but a bitter angry man with moron issues.
@Aiko_E_Lara You really are the deluded one. Go to a prison and ask them who is innocent. Some will be honest, but let's be real most of them won't. Same here.The 62% if you missed was the percentage of guys saying men here. That was part of the joke that of course you didn't get. To much I guess. Yes the last part was a joke. It maybe too difficult for you to understand, but you can have an argument and use humor along the way. I knew you were not going to get it and even told you it was a joke. You still manage to miss it!
"you're" the one" try again. Because i've seen worse tactic. So i guess it is only honesty if guys say women and we are lying if we say men. And of course you don't know what that mentality make you sound like. And just because we are saying men does it really mean disloyal? Because if you think so that so straw man fallacy. And by the way i was joking to and you didn't get it. *shugs* let's both contradict sinks at the very end shall we?
@Aiko_E_Lara oh no they are not lying. They actually have that opinion. I don't agree with that opinion, but that's another story. You do know that nothing about you indicates joke. I didn't even knew you had the ability to make one. You are way to serious. Sorry if I didn't catch something way out of character. Also you missed a joke with me stating where the joke was...
Just like when you're joking about 62% of guys here, i was joking about not getting the joke. All contradictory. Because what if i told you you didn't indicate any joke either. Just like that you're ready joking because of how i debunk your opinion here because if you're really posting your opinion then why would you call us bitter? Oh it's a joke then i guess it's only funny to joke when you do it but you don't like it if i respond right? When you can just simply disagree with their opinion while posting so as your own opinion that would have been easier.
@Aiko_E_Lara I really did initiated a joke. In the same post I did I said for you to take that specific part as a joke. I told you I didn't got your joke. You are not the joke type and unlike me you didn't pointed it out on the same post you made it. You never debunked my opinion. Why posting my opinion if I am calling you bitter? Because you being bitter is my opinion. In case that wasn't clear... That is my entire point. We why it's important to stay on topic? The other side forgets your point to begin with. My main points are, try to focus now, women cheat more and many guys here are bitter. You disagree because I have no date besides observation to back it up. I think the reality speaks for itself and very loud. It's like saying you need a chart to know running across a road with a blindfold is a bad idea. You need a statistical analysis or else I can't prove it's a bad idea... This is where we are.This is it. Easy right?
OK then in that case i did too. You just didn't get it. Again let's just contradict everything at the end. "you never debunked my opinion" like it's that easy. That's not how the real world works FYI. And lol I'm bitter in your opinion? That's a fact lol but in fact you are. Again, assumptions. Assuming many guys here are bitter. Basing things on feelings not even making any actual data while you're saying you're not bitter? Facts vs feelings, I go with facts. Yes you definitely can't prove anything if you don't have any data as logical and rational people are result oriented.
@Aiko_E_Lara I am not understanding half of what you mena by now, but let's see if I get it...I believe you made a joke and I miss it, but unlike me you said you did on the post after you made it. I call it a joke on the very same post I made it and you still missed it. You are a smart guy I am sure you can get the difference.I never said it was. I am not here to debunk your opinion, like you are trying to debunk mine. You can believe what you want. I think you are wrong, but hey I can sleep with that.I am 100% sure many guys here are bitter. You want proof? Go check the MyTake I told you about, there are many many bitter guys giving an example there. That's some facts for you...But that is the point! I knew there where many even before I made that Take by simple observation, which is by the way a valid scientific method in many fields of study to gather information, aka facts.
Also if I didn't get yours, so that means you didn't make any if that's the case. You just wanna say "I'm joking" at the end. You know what? You're not funny tho. And it wouldn't be funny if I make sexist or generalizing joke if I do it against women. Also can I say my mytake is also a joke so you'll just shut up? I'm just following your logic.
Also a mytake full of fallacies full of argumentum ad experientiam can't make it a fact as I've based its actual data of what that fallacy means. Just an easy way to say it is what you experience is not what other people experienced. Because i can also say I've seen more bitter girls. But i declare its a fact, that won't make me truthful because again, argumentum ad experientiam fallacy
@Aiko_E_Lara "And it wouldn't be funny if I make sexist or generalizing joke if I do it against women. " YES IT WOULD! It absolutly would! I tell cancer jokes at work I really do! I tell starving ethiopian kids jokes at work. Jokes are meant to be just that, jokes. Not to be taken seriously.And don't try to flee now you are serious with this post. But you know what I can shut up. We will never get to a common ground anyway.
@Aiko_E_Lara Again observation is a used scientific method in many fields. Consider my argument comming from the use of it. You can say that you saw something else. Okey, fair. So here we are two guys with different opinions. That is it.
So i guess it would be funny too if I joke about your "wife" dying or if I kill her. Ok ok but that's still your opinion. But i say you weren't really obvious you were joking. And it's not just me who thinks so. Anyways i only responded and why do you care if I didn't get your joke? Unless it bothers you. Because I find it funny bothering you.
@Aiko_E_Lara As long as it is actually a joke yes you can! Of course you can. Jokes are harmless and long as they are really with the purpose of humor. Oh no it doesn't bother me at all that you never got the joke, in fact I was kinda expecting you not to get it, that is why I said right in the same post "I am joking here" to see if you got it. I just don't want you using the part where I was joking as me using a bad argument, because that was not an argument. Feel free to instead answer all the others you are failing to adress because again we are far from the main issue here. And since we are this hole conversation is a joke by now.
And also you failed to get my joke. Just like that, just claim its a joke and you don't have any humor. You know, you can eat your words anytime and finish what you started. If you can joke then why can't i? If you think i'm not joking then it's just you.
@Aiko_E_Lara I never said you couldn't joke. You can and I said before that you can. Nevermind I try to explain the difference about our jokes for too long now not doing it again.
As if you know what I'm talkin about. Because you know I also explain how your joke doesn't sound like a joke. Because I'm actually just doing exactly what you're doing. Just saying joke of the end to make things you know like a joke and the one who don't get it is the "snowflake" .
@Aiko_E_Lara You are right I don't because I didn't got your joke like you didn't mine. And you have the ental concentration of a squirell on acid. That was another joke by the way. BEcause you simply can't argue the point, you make the conversation about something else and desperately try to win at some point. Try to argue the main point and then I will give you some credit. Because you are falling at prove my main point wrong.
And do you think you're not desperately trying to get away with things just by saying it's a joke? Like desperately trying to win they saying it's a joke at the end that sounds pretty familiar though. Because again I'm just arguing with your level.
@Aiko_E_Lara Now I am confused, trying to get away with what? Calling you a squirrel on acid?
It doesn't take a genius to understand getting away with things. "oh let's just call guys bitter" "oh I'm just joking" yeah like that. You can't even read your own comment. Again it doesn't take a genius. Wanna waste time by changing what you said in your first post? Thats not working because you're exposed.
@Aiko_E_Lara It doesn't take a genius to understand getting away with things. "oh let's just call guys bitter" "oh I'm just joking" yeah like that. You can't even read your own comment. Again it doesn't take a genius. Wanna waste time by changing what you said in your first post? Thats not working because you're exposed.
Nevermind the last post that was your answer, here is now my answer to that...You are don't read what I say. You either don't or you just assume stuff. Much like the feminazis you hate so much. I never said I was joking about the bitter guys part. I wasn't and I stand by it. The only reason guys here think women cheat more it's because they are bitter guys. And finally maybe we will be now back at the main topic.
ThisIsMyOpinion: you just assume stuffAlso ThisIsMyOpinion: *assumes guys are bitter*Do you wanna continue proving your irony? And no saying it's a "joke" is just predictable. Talk about getting away with things.
@Aiko_E_Lara Oh this is preceless! I am not assuming anything I have seen how many MANY guys here are. They are bitter alright. No argument to be had there.
Still no source or data to back that up so that still fall under the assumption category. Just like that assuming just because of what you see. Oh right your experiences and you already think it's a fact. That's not how the world works exactly
@Aiko_E_Lara Actually if you see many people go against a really clean glass door you can walk around and say "A buch of people goes against that glass door" whitiout making a questionaire. When people ask you for evidence all you can say is "Because I saw many go against the door". That person is not assuming anything, that person is simply right.
Unless we see them our selves but we don't. So that will still fall under your assumptions. If i have also been scrolling through the post here and i can also say i don't see bitter guys as much. Also i am not assuming by your logic
@Aiko_E_Lara No no no my friend. I actually laugh at that one. YOU don't see them. Big ass difference.
@Aiko_E_Lara Most likly because you are one of them
And i'm actually laughing at you because you are seeing things. And assumptions are based on feelings and feelings aren't logical so if you're assuming then that means you are one of them.
@Aiko_E_Lara You are the person saying that no one ever bumped into that glass door while going against it yourself...
"you're the one" like that's how it works. So you can assume all you want that doesn't make you a fact. "you're the one" doesn't doesn't really prove anything. And you still haven't even prove your delusion saying that guys are bitter here. All you do is just say and say hoping that will make you valid
@Aiko_E_Lara Just like you. We both have the same base for our points. You simply don't admit that.
Coming from someone saying "you're the one" Why the delete option shouldn't exist ↗ the guys you have seen are not equal to the average guys here on g@g because if you're just going to talk about bitter people in general there are just like that bitter girl in G@G.
@Aiko_E_Lara That is where we disagree. Yes the average guy on GaG is very very close to be that bitter stereotype. While there are bitter girls they are not as bitter.
In your delusions. So it's ok for you to call guys bitter but when I you're delusional, it's not ok? If you have the freedom to call us anything what you want then so can we with you. Unless you wanna demonstrate double standards. You're not the only one with free speech here
@Aiko_E_Lara Sure I am the delusional one...Oh yes you can call me whatever you want really. I never said anything against that.I don't even know where did that came from to be honest. Are you just trying to change the subject again?
Ofcourse you are. You haven't proven anything about more bitter guys here. But you just wanna keep saying just because it's what you believe. And are you trying to be ignorant again?
@Aiko_E_Lara You are defenitly the guy going against the glass door.
More adhominems. And you don't realize that makes it at the bottom of Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem So assume one more time. That will only prove who's bitter here.
Is is there anything else better you can do that just throw your ad homs? That won't exactly prove anything. You don't have any statistics on G@G on who's more bitter here. Your experience? You know we all have different "all seeing eye" so that won't exactly make you the Mr. right guy here.
@Aiko_E_Lara If you didn't get it I won't bother to explain either.Again yes, I speak for what I see here. Just like you do.
Then I speak your one sided delusions.
Just like I do, I'm just doing exactly what you're doing here. I've seen many salty @ThisIsMyOpinion 's here.
@Aiko_E_Lara You are the delusional one my friend. I really doubt you have encontered anyone like me besides yourself.
Again with the "you're the one" tactic. That didn't work before so don't expect it to work this time. Coming from someone who can't even explain and give facts. Don't wanna get called? Then prove it. As a proof for you, you get salty but at the same time, you keep contradicting things "It's opinion". No body is stopping you from giving opinions. No body is stopping me for giving mine. Don't like it? then that's delusion
@Aiko_E_Lara You know that you don't need to agree for it to work right?Anyway, your tactic is just asking for proof when you can't present any of your own. That is just weak. You can give opinions. I am giving mine. I never said I had anything against your opinion, like you have against mine, I simply have a different on than you.
Ofcourse I ask for proof because you get salty if I say delusions. Being so egotistic of your opinion just because of how you feel about it is just weak and ofcourse you haven't thought about that. There's something called "presumption of innocence" you need to know. Accuse someone of rape and they need proof, you just gonna call them weak? That's not how reality works.
@Aiko_E_Lara Sure I am the salty one, yet you talk about me calling you what you just called me when you just did the same thing with "weak". Salty much? Sorry didn't mean to hurt your feelings.Difference is they gather proof and listen to both sides. Both sides need to present proof, one that it happened and the other that didn't. You are simply asking me for proof and not presenting some yourself. Especially when this is question made by you! It's sad to have no arguments to be had on your own question.
Ofcourse you are. Assuming about guys and complaining about guys being bitter that is. Also you call me "weak" because I wanted proof so there that's 2 strikes for just calling you delusional.
So you want proof? The thing you claimed have no proof proves your delusional as it is been noted that no proof = delusions. Also the fact that there is no statistics about who's really more bitter here means no one can tell who's more bitter. But if one assumes = Delusions.
@Aiko_E_Lara I call you weak because your argument is weak. You have no visible proof of what you are saying. On the other hand I always said that my opinion comes from my experience, from what I have seen and know. Never claimed to be anything else. You have. But so far... nothing...
Just say things like what you just wanna say. It's week and boom does it magically become one? And you don't think that's weak for whatever reason. And I'm just saying it's delusional to keep defending it as I give facts.
@Aiko_E_Lara Claiming you give facts doens't mean much if don't actually do that. Just so you know...
Claiming it is a fact when all i'm saying is your assuming and you're being delusional when i can already see you assuming in the first place because you cannot explain everything but despite using is an opinion you just want to be friend it like it's a fact so i say delusions. it is always noted that no proof is equal to delusions. Like what articles and dictionary said about it. Prove me wrong once again. I can prove you wrong while you say some opinion you're not right either. So knowing you're not right you don't have to get salty as i point out how you're assuming things.
@Aiko_E_Lara You don't read do you? I have said, many times now, read this slowly so you can get it, that what I am saying is based on my experiences, what I saw over my life and what I know. You are the one claiming to have facts when you actually don't.
And also didn't you read? Well you are saying many times it is based on your experience i am only saying you are assuming just because it's what you experience i want you experience is not what anyone else experienced so you are assuming but if you want to keep defending your opinion like as if it's a fact then you're delusional. If you're basing things on your experience and it is not assumptions then what is? It is in fact assumptions if you want to jump to that conclusion without seeing the actual data and statistics.
@Aiko_E_Lara I knew very well that what I saw around me was representative. After the stats I put in your take now I am sure.
Now you're sure, you can continue proving to me how delusional you are. And the meaning of that word hasn't changed in the dictionary ever since which describes you perfectly. You can be in denial but dictionary says so
@Aiko_E_Lara Me: Men cheat more.You: No they don't, I gave you facts that they don't.Me: You never gave me any facts.You: I debunked you by saying your argument is just an opinion.Me: I never said my argument wasn't a personal opinion. But hey look I have facts now. You: I refuses to accept those facts. I will never admit that I lost.
No they don't because i give you facts that you are assuming not because they don't. Also because i'm not saying women cheat more. So yes the fact that me saying you're assuming still stands. Kind of like you are refusing to accept the fact that you are assuming therefore that is where the delusions kicks in
@Aiko_E_Lara "i give you facts " That part is so funny now, since I was the one giving fact here. And you still try to deny them.I always said I was assuming that men cheated more. But now I know they do thanks to those articles. By the way right now you know that men cheat more too. Whatever you want to admit it or not xD
I can give you facts about you assuming yep that is indeed the funny part and you just laughed at yourself. So you finally admitted the fact that you're assuming and you're also assuming you know just like defending your assumptions saying "i know" is what the dictionary say delusional in fact.
@Aiko_E_Lara No I was really laughting at you. Because after the things I showed you, you are the only one assuming stuff here.
I'm not assuming you're laughing at me so you don't have to assume i'm assuming you're laughing at me but in fact you are but if you are i'm pointing out you're just laughing at yourself.
@Aiko_E_Lara You don't have to assume I laugh at you I did. More than once by now actually. I said it before in our conversations. By the way have given up on the main topic? You not adressing it? No more pointless arguments? After what I showed you pretty much all you can say to counter my main point is useless.
Because i never did assume you laughed at me. You can see it useless anytime but you are still dodging the main point about you being delusional about the situation. You want to continue being ironic again and skip the main topic?
@Aiko_E_Lara I was always on the main topic. You are the one that keep trying to avoid it. Manly because you really have no case anymore.
So was i and you always fail to see the relevancy of the topic because you just want to look at things basing on your first impression not taking a closer look at the situation which i am here to talk about but no. denial at its finest like accusing me to avoid the main topic. Because you only focus on that first impression of yours you nothing else to present now because again you don't want to take a closer look at the situation.
@Aiko_E_Lara Again with the meaningless logic. You have been avoiding the main point from the start. Especially after I showed you the stats. Why is that? Because you have no real case.
Again it doesn't take a genius at all you can do is accusing me of running away from the main point. and yes you accusing me of running away from the main point is also you trying to get away with the main point here. Do you think your case is actually real? It's not for your information.
@Aiko_E_Lara No, it's trying to get you to the main point again. Let's do that. Your article said men still cheat more even if more women are doing it.
Then so do I getting on to the main point. Also my article is saying "maybe not" which you just don't wanna see. Because what you wanna do is just assume and compare.
@Aiko_E_Lara it always says that women are close behind. And you gave me one article that more a less agrees with me. I gave you many more that completely do.
And you're giving me articles at agrees with how society ignores when women are victimizing men. The statistics of yours proves it. And i also give you many more the completely do
Really? You think we are?
Exactly. We need statistics for that otherwise it’s bs
Yes we do these question turn to erupt into opinions being shouted at each other
Yes lmao I said the same thing here. Like, people are just gonna point the finger at each other.
Yep it's a unanswerable question about the stats to help out