"Im talking about guys from 18 to 24 years old" The answer is obviously a no. Immature people are just immature people. It all depends on who and what type of guy you hang around with. Age is irrelevant.
1. "Not ready to commit to a relationship" False, if they want a relationship, they would have one. If they don't want one, they rather not commit. And the top reason why they don't, other than focusing on themselves and maturing, is because many girls don't hold them to a standard. They have sex right away, cater right away, give their heart right away, and expect to fix or change a man. So they don't see the point.
2. "Not ready to commit to marriage" Also false. It's an excuse for such guys to play the field but blame other women who now do the same. I have friends who got married at 18-24, are happily married, have kids and still married.
3. "Immature" Depends on what you mean by immaturity as not everybody will agree.
4. "Emotionally immature" Again, it depends on the person, their upbringing, their peers who they hang around with mostly, etc. This can apply to females as well.
5. "Still young to think of marriage, kids" False, I knew of a few who wanted kids and they were at least 14-16 years old. It is never too early to think about your future.
6. "Still thinking how many women to have s*x with" That depends on their mentality and how they view women and sex. Those are the kinds of men you do NOT want any relationship with. Or sex with.
At the end of the day, it may seem daunting, but you have to learn to appreciate the beauty of good men who don't see the need to be like other men, sleeping around, etc. The worse assumptions women mainly make is assuming a man is gay for not participating in premarital sex, or religious for refusing to have sex outside of marriage, needy for wanting a relationship or marriage with them in less than the ideal time [though there are some desperate and crazy ones out there], or rebuke a guy for not being 'attractive enough' to her standards. I don't hold to that biases about men under 25 are immature. It's a collective of mindsets that draws such men together and makes it appear like hoards of wasps as if they are all the same. I believe that it's an expectation that men under 25 are to be immature. So since society expects it, men will do it more often. People want to fit in. They don't want to be rejected.
Yes I think they mostly are. I have a friend who is 20 who is a good person, loyal, communicates, etc. he tries to treat women well and have not come across some of the best girls. But even he himself has some growing up to do and just doesn’t realize it. But I notice it. The same goes for this guy I’m interested in. I think that because of his age, it could be too much right now to have a serious relationship. He isn’t stupid, he is mature for his age, but he is young. So what I do is I just enjoy his company, I reciprocate, and I relax. We are BOTH young and free to enjoy our lives. I like him and he likes me, but I’m not going to put pressure on things working out. I also keep my options open. Right now he is the only person that I like but since I am single I am available to meet new interesting people. I leave it up to the guys I meet to live the way they want and I tag along. No expectations mean less hurt. And open options increase the likelihood of meeting someone who will know exactly what they want.
I'll be 30 in 6 months. Looking back at my 20s... why would a man want to commit so early? You said:
Not ready to commit to a relationship
Not ready to commit to marriage
Still young to think of marriage, kids
Im talking about guys from 18 to 24 years oldI don't know any man 18-24 who just gets so happy and giddy thinking about marriage and kids at that age. That's stuff women think about. I'm not saying there aren't men out there that think about that stuff early, but a large amount of men aren't.
I'm almost 30 and I'm still not ready for kids or marriage. HELL, I don't even think I want to get married... but that's a long story.
Also, men aren't that immature. Being 29 years old and having more experience with women than in my younger days, I see women act just as immature as men. It's a age thing. As you get older, you learn to tone down.
And the urge to have sex with women doesn't change. My older brother is 40 years old and single and he enjoys getting to know random women and having sex with them. He doesn't want a relationship or kids. Does that make him immature? No. It's just his preference.
I don’t know about the other guys, I can’t speak for them, only myself. Settling down and having a wife ans children has always been my life goals, but I’m only 20 and as much as I’d like to already be at that point, I don’t think I’m ready yet. I think out of the problems you listed, the only one that stumps me still I think is emotional immaturity. I keep comparing myself to others, and begin to feel insecure that I’m not at the same level in life as they are. This feeling is especially present when a woman I like is older such as 27-29 years old. I’m a full time student and I still live at home (I at least take care of the family ranch so I’m not a total loser) and they typically live on their own and have jobs. I have a lot of free time on my hands and when I like someone I feel like I can talk to them for hours on end. My problem is that I like attention and quick replies and I tend to overthink when they can’t immediately reply and I begin to think that maybe I’m bothering them or they aren’t interested in talking and I try to remind myself that they’re probably busy or at work.
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The same as guys in any other age range, or women for that matter except for the beating drum of the 30's adding pressure. Some people want to get married, some don't, I knew a guy in his 80's still obsessed with screwing waitresses, falling for online scams and hitting on women damned near every hour of every day.
I knew I wanted marriage and a family before I was 18 and worked on myself towards that, and picking who I dated accordingly. It isn't an easy thing to want, money, travel, or screwing a lot are pretty easy and enjoyable. They're kind of incompatible with having a family though.
It's more about what you want and less about maturity. Though a lot of people don't know what they want.
Not necessarily. For most, it’s a bit young. But it’s too much of a generalization to say it applies to all. Especially religious people who are raised in an environment towards fidelity and marriage.
Biologists now are saying that the brain doesn’t fully mature until age 25, but they’re always doing more research and coming up with new theories, and there are always outliers, so we can’t dismiss anyone from being outside the typical parameters.
It depends on the guy, but I honestly don't think it's just an age thing. I've met guys who were 25+ who acted like 10-year-olds and were not ready for a serious relationship whatsoever.
Uh no definitely not. I've met plenty of mature men that are under 25.
And I dont think maturity and settling down have anything to do with eachother. They're just not the same things
I think most guys around 25 are mature and are wise not to committ. In these modern times it is too early to committ with the idea of marriage.
Not all of them. Some are mature/committed while even more Guys want to but don't know how yet. Just like women.
Immature is a bit subjective, considering the girls I dated in my 20s were still acting like they were in high school, with all the gossip, drama and trying to change me into what they wanted... Rather than accepting who I am.
I didn't want to commit to anything, because if a relationship still has things to work out, getting married and having kids doesn't magically fix any of that. And if my girlfriends were still trying to control me like some fk'n mother, wanting me to change, but never did anything from their end in the same fashion, then why would I or any other guy "commit" to something like that?
I'm married now and we have a kid. We did so because we didn't try to change one another and accepted who we were.
A lot of people, both men and women in their 20s, are immature in that aspect, because you think you know better, yet you don't because you're still trying to figure out who you are and what you want out of life. Many think marriage and settling down solves all your problems, when in fact, it only makes things worse, simply because you're still working out if the relationship is workable in the long term, bite the bullet, get married and then add more problems on top of the ones you didn't fix in the first place.
Figure yourself out first and where you sit in the world before you start dragging others down with you and forcing them to do what you expect.
Maybe your right but then again the same can be applied to women under 25
To women over 25 then the issue of commitment from men is all they depend on because that's what secures their future, commitment is something that as far as women are concerned is something only men should do because that's how women guarantee their future, they get a man to commit and then proceed to sleep with his friends and then blame him for their deciept and the proceed to destroy that man and take at least half of his earnings now and for the rest of his life and then come back for at least half of his pension.
Commitment is a business for women and relationships are an excuse to not have to save money because most women know that they will always have state and government support to take finances from men. All the while excusing their crappy behaviour.
Given that why would any man commit to anything to do with a woman, why would any man of any age think given the number of people who are divorced, why any man thinks that women actually think a relationship should be long term or for life is beyond me.
Women do not believe a relationship is for life, like dogs and cats they believe it should last no longer than the point at which she thinks she's bored and then she should leave taking everything she feels she is entitled to regardless of whether or not that's true. Why then would anybody make any long term investment with a woman.
In fact then women are no different to the theranos company, full of promise and actually able to deliver nothing but able to walk away with everything.
The way I look at this question. ... It's not a simple "Yes or no" type of response. The reason being is because that can vary. There are guys out there within that age bracket who do think about "how many Instagram babes they can bang & be titled 'a man' over it". That part in my perspective is due to how they were nurtured in that area. Before you know it,... they continue on banging these women until they have a shit load of baby-mamas and they are either going to be a dad to their kids or just be a dead-beat father. That also depends if they come from a middle or high class status & think they can do whatever they want regardless if city law applies to them or not. Yeah they have the experience & the number of women they have been with, but the question I would like to hit them with are 1) Are any of these women still with them? Are they still willing to continue on having sex with the same guy or have they grown out of that phase already? 2) If the same guy still brags about how many women he's been with & how he's a God to these women,... are they still with him now? if so, where are they? Again that kind of phase is going to pass. He may have the experience & brag about how many women he's been with, but if he's not married & doesn't have a wife,... what does he have to show for? nothing. Those type of guys don't come across as being grateful about anything. They have everything handed down to them on a golden platter ( again if they come from a middle or high class status ) never nurtured about humility & their personalities of coming across as immature assholes never change unless they have some type of life altering experience,... then maybe their personalities might change but that's still a maybe.
As for guys between the age brackets of 18 - 25 & up,... if they are nurtured right,... believe it or not,... yes they can commit to a romantic relationship & have their own families with their partner. That's very much possible.
Speaking from my own personal experience and I am not necessarily speaking for anyone else on this site:
I thought I was the smartest dude out there. I thought I had life figured out. Nobody could tell me any different. I was 33 when I discovered other wise. Came to realize I didn't know shit. I am still learning the basic I feel like now. I had an extremely humbling experience and got brought back down to earth. I needed it but now I look back and don't stop thinking "wtf was I doing".
With that being said, I didn't even know I wasn't ready for anything. I didn't have a effin thing figured out. So my point is maybe think of that when making your decision. Even though somebody may look and tell you they got it figured out (and good chance they are not lying because they don't know any better). Don't believe them. Do it when your ready and not for what the other person believes. If you are not sure, search for some sort of personal journey. Push yourself in uncomfortable ways and awkward situations. See what you are really made of. You will learn a lot about yourself and what you really want in life.
Most men aren't actually ready to settle down until they get closer to 30. I feel like that's why my husband and I work so well. We have a ten year age Gap and we always seem to be on the same page because of it. Plus I feel like I don't have to worry about silly things like him finding another woman because he's already been "around the block" so to speak. It may be foolish of me, however it makes me feel more confident in our relationship because he chose to marry me after being with all those women.
Very case by case. I dated a guy for a few months last year who was “afraid of commitment”, he is 22 and was 21 when we met. He had a girlfriend previously and that allegedly turned him off relationships. Tbh, he was generally immature and shady. My current boyfriend is four months younger than me and while I was the one who asked if we could be official, he says that if I hadn’t asked he was planning on asking first thing the following date. He was the first one to say “i love you”, and has been talking marriage and kids for the future for as long as we’ve been together. Age doesn’t completely affect whether or not a guy is ready. It has to do with maturity and whether or not the person thinks they have met someone who is correct for them.
Nature. Why should they commit at that age?
Why assuming immature in every option? Just your perception? Biased!!
Seriously, do you want a 25 year old guy, as a husband, and having a family? No wonder there is so many divorces if that is what women think!!
Most guys aren't even close to 'husband/father' material until their early 40s!!
Women expect too much, from too young of guys, then blame ALL men, for the young ones that are unable, and unwilling to commit!
Who's fault is that, really? Misperceptions of them, and trying to force them to be what they aren't?
I’ve yet to find one that is ready for all that stuff. Men have the luxury of being able to wait longer to have kids, their bodies can produce children longer than women’s. And they’re not raised to act mature either, which is why girls are seemingly more mature than boys. I know someone who STARTED cooking at 26.. a guy, obviously. I started cooking when I was 11. I was taught to make simple dishes just in case and I could do that. When I speak to pears, very few guys have learned basic life skills while almost all girls had mastered them already by 16, because they were taught to. We allow boys to be kids longer than we allow girls to be kids, which ends with immature men that need longer to mature and be ready for kids, marriage, etc.
I don't think it's that because most guys are nice guys that would love to commit to one it's just girls only notice the bad boys and ask such questions and personally it's i think it's very paradoxical like or a guy is too nice (which is stupid) or a guy likes it too much fucking around (it's kind of a confidence booster and then it just becomes something that you usually like to do) now in my own experience i don't know how i matured but it had to do with me having feelings for my girl best friend (she knows about the girls i slept with so i don't know how to try things with her I'm keeping it on hold for now) .. so i think the problem is about emotional attachment when it comes to immature guys and not being too nice to guys that are actually nice
Humbug!(I have always wanted to say that (≧▽≦) ) I think anyone can be mature and commited no matter the age maturity comes from within (･ิω･ิ) and u can commit to something as long as u want to do it and u have a strong drive bruh I was in a relationship with this guy for like 6 months and more when I was twelve. I like to think we actually had some strong feelings for each other I knew I did (・∀・)👌 the point is... I'm not sure anymore cause I talk to much not making any sense of anything but I hope u got something (・∀・)👌
I'd say if you want them to stay make a mutually made plan. In terms of family and give them a grounded reason to stay. Its like a no brainer that young guys might get up and leave if you don't make the relationship seem like a mutual benefit. Particularly if the friendship/relationship hinges on FWB's.
Not to mention a huge plus when it comes to a relationship is how many "wifey" stuff can the girlfriend do. If the only thing a girlfriend can do is satisfy the need for sex. Its honestly pretty obvious why a young guy in their 18 to 20's may just bounce around. Its still early life.
Its not like we live in the 1800's where man kind only lives till their 40's.
I say yes , cuz I was that age once , and how I look at love now is completely different from how I looked at love when I was younger , usually guys that age are selfish and only really care about themselves , they are still learning and talking out their asses for the most part to get laid. When I was that age I really didn’t put myself in her shoes I pretty much looked at what was best for me at that time. But we all have to learn somewhere , Now that I am older girls in their 20’s tend to like older guys cuz we have been through it and are maturer in the sense of knowing how to treat a girl and not really in it for ourselves. I know I am going to be bombarded from saying all this but the truth of the matter is just the way it is , I am answering this off of my own experiences in life and the girls that I have dated that were in their 20’s that have told me why they were attracted to me , mainly cuz I was mature and didn’t play games like guys their age did
Kinda tough,
I don't think I'm "not ready to commit to a relationship", but I personally do not want to get married or have kids. I just want to enjoy my life, the whole thing, and that means not having snot-nosed brats take away my 30's.
I'd be happy to find a woman who wanted a long-term double income no kids relationship with me. And if I found her, although I don't really like marriage, I'd get married if she set that as a prerequisite. If she starts to want kids later, then we're gonna break up though. I am not gonna start locking up my liquor just to keep sticky little hands off of it.
Before my long relationship, I thought most guys from 18 to 24 were indeed more looking for girls to fuck then for something serious. I can't even count the times I went on dates and never saw the guys again once we had sex. Then I had a long relationship that sadly ended.
Now I'm older and single, so are the guys I date and I feel like it's even worse. Guys still just date me to empty their balls, but now they are more straight froward about it and I guess I'm more accepting to how this whole thing goes and I try to have a good time, less worrying about whether it's right or wrong.
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