Not ready to commit to marriage
Immature
Emotionally immature
Still young to think of marriage, kids
Still thinking how many women to have s*x with
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Im talking about guys from 18 to 24 years old

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"Im talking about guys from 18 to 24 years old" The answer is obviously a no. Immature people are just immature people. It all depends on who and what type of guy you hang around with. Age is irrelevant.
1. "Not ready to commit to a relationship" False, if they want a relationship, they would have one. If they don't want one, they rather not commit. And the top reason why they don't, other than focusing on themselves and maturing, is because many girls don't hold them to a standard. They have sex right away, cater right away, give their heart right away, and expect to fix or change a man. So they don't see the point.
2. "Not ready to commit to marriage" Also false. It's an excuse for such guys to play the field but blame other women who now do the same. I have friends who got married at 18-24, are happily married, have kids and still married.
3. "Immature" Depends on what you mean by immaturity as not everybody will agree.
4. "Emotionally immature" Again, it depends on the person, their upbringing, their peers who they hang around with mostly, etc. This can apply to females as well.
5. "Still young to think of marriage, kids" False, I knew of a few who wanted kids and they were at least 14-16 years old. It is never too early to think about your future.
6. "Still thinking how many women to have s*x with" That depends on their mentality and how they view women and sex. Those are the kinds of men you do NOT want any relationship with. Or sex with.
At the end of the day, it may seem daunting, but you have to learn to appreciate the beauty of good men who don't see the need to be like other men, sleeping around, etc. The worse assumptions women mainly make is assuming a man is gay for not participating in premarital sex, or religious for refusing to have sex outside of marriage, needy for wanting a relationship or marriage with them in less than the ideal time [though there are some desperate and crazy ones out there], or rebuke a guy for not being 'attractive enough' to her standards. I don't hold to that biases about men under 25 are immature. It's a collective of mindsets that draws such men together and makes it appear like hoards of wasps as if they are all the same. I believe that it's an expectation that men under 25 are to be immature. So since society expects it, men will do it more often. People want to fit in. They don't want to be rejected.
Yes I think they mostly are. I have a friend who is 20 who is a good person, loyal, communicates, etc. he tries to treat women well and have not come across some of the best girls. But even he himself has some growing up to do and just doesn’t realize it. But I notice it. The same goes for this guy I’m interested in. I think that because of his age, it could be too much right now to have a serious relationship. He isn’t stupid, he is mature for his age, but he is young. So what I do is I just enjoy his company, I reciprocate, and I relax. We are BOTH young and free to enjoy our lives. I like him and he likes me, but I’m not going to put pressure on things working out. I also keep my options open. Right now he is the only person that I like but since I am single I am available to meet new interesting people. I leave it up to the guys I meet to live the way they want and I tag along. No expectations mean less hurt. And open options increase the likelihood of meeting someone who will know exactly what they want.
I'll be 30 in 6 months. Looking back at my 20s... why would a man want to commit so early? You said:
Not ready to commit to a relationship
Not ready to commit to marriage
Still young to think of marriage, kids
Im talking about guys from 18 to 24 years oldI don't know any man 18-24 who just gets so happy and giddy thinking about marriage and kids at that age. That's stuff women think about. I'm not saying there aren't men out there that think about that stuff early, but a large amount of men aren't.
I'm almost 30 and I'm still not ready for kids or marriage. HELL, I don't even think I want to get married... but that's a long story.
Also, men aren't that immature. Being 29 years old and having more experience with women than in my younger days, I see women act just as immature as men. It's a age thing. As you get older, you learn to tone down.
And the urge to have sex with women doesn't change. My older brother is 40 years old and single and he enjoys getting to know random women and having sex with them. He doesn't want a relationship or kids. Does that make him immature? No. It's just his preference.
I don’t know about the other guys, I can’t speak for them, only myself. Settling down and having a wife ans children has always been my life goals, but I’m only 20 and as much as I’d like to already be at that point, I don’t think I’m ready yet. I think out of the problems you listed, the only one that stumps me still I think is emotional immaturity. I keep comparing myself to others, and begin to feel insecure that I’m not at the same level in life as they are. This feeling is especially present when a woman I like is older such as 27-29 years old. I’m a full time student and I still live at home (I at least take care of the family ranch so I’m not a total loser) and they typically live on their own and have jobs. I have a lot of free time on my hands and when I like someone I feel like I can talk to them for hours on end. My problem is that I like attention and quick replies and I tend to overthink when they can’t immediately reply and I begin to think that maybe I’m bothering them or they aren’t interested in talking and I try to remind myself that they’re probably busy or at work.
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The same as guys in any other age range, or women for that matter except for the beating drum of the 30's adding pressure. Some people want to get married, some don't, I knew a guy in his 80's still obsessed with screwing waitresses, falling for online scams and hitting on women damned near every hour of every day.
I knew I wanted marriage and a family before I was 18 and worked on myself towards that, and picking who I dated accordingly. It isn't an easy thing to want, money, travel, or screwing a lot are pretty easy and enjoyable. They're kind of incompatible with having a family though.
It's more about what you want and less about maturity. Though a lot of people don't know what they want.
Not necessarily. For most, it’s a bit young. But it’s too much of a generalization to say it applies to all. Especially religious people who are raised in an environment towards fidelity and marriage.
Biologists now are saying that the brain doesn’t fully mature until age 25, but they’re always doing more research and coming up with new theories, and there are always outliers, so we can’t dismiss anyone from being outside the typical parameters.
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would that be a good thing or a bad thing?
It depends on the guy, but I honestly don't think it's just an age thing. I've met guys who were 25+ who acted like 10-year-olds and were not ready for a serious relationship whatsoever.
Uh no definitely not. I've met plenty of mature men that are under 25.
And I dont think maturity and settling down have anything to do with eachother. They're just not the same things
I think most guys around 25 are mature and are wise not to committ. In these modern times it is too early to committ with the idea of marriage.
Not all of them. Some are mature/committed while even more Guys want to but don't know how yet. Just like women.
Immature is a bit subjective, considering the girls I dated in my 20s were still acting like they were in high school, with all the gossip, drama and trying to change me into what they wanted... Rather than accepting who I am.
I didn't want to commit to anything, because if a relationship still has things to work out, getting married and having kids doesn't magically fix any of that. And if my girlfriends were still trying to control me like some fk'n mother, wanting me to change, but never did anything from their end in the same fashion, then why would I or any other guy "commit" to something like that?
I'm married now and we have a kid. We did so because we didn't try to change one another and accepted who we were.
A lot of people, both men and women in their 20s, are immature in that aspect, because you think you know better, yet you don't because you're still trying to figure out who you are and what you want out of life. Many think marriage and settling down solves all your problems, when in fact, it only makes things worse, simply because you're still working out if the relationship is workable in the long term, bite the bullet, get married and then add more problems on top of the ones you didn't fix in the first place.
Figure yourself out first and where you sit in the world before you start dragging others down with you and forcing them to do what you expect.
Maybe your right but then again the same can be applied to women under 25
To women over 25 then the issue of commitment from men is all they depend on because that's what secures their future, commitment is something that as far as women are concerned is something only men should do because that's how women guarantee their future, they get a man to commit and then proceed to sleep with his friends and then blame him for their deciept and the proceed to destroy that man and take at least half of his earnings now and for the rest of his life and then come back for at least half of his pension.
Commitment is a business for women and relationships are an excuse to not have to save money because most women know that they will always have state and government support to take finances from men. All the while excusing their crappy behaviour.
Given that why would any man commit to anything to do with a woman, why would any man of any age think given the number of people who are divorced, why any man thinks that women actually think a relationship should be long term or for life is beyond me.
Women do not believe a relationship is for life, like dogs and cats they believe it should last no longer than the point at which she thinks she's bored and then she should leave taking everything she feels she is entitled to regardless of whether or not that's true. Why then would anybody make any long term investment with a woman.
In fact then women are no different to the theranos company, full of promise and actually able to deliver nothing but able to walk away with everything.
The way I look at this question. ... It's not a simple "Yes or no" type of response. The reason being is because that can vary. There are guys out there within that age bracket who do think about "how many Instagram babes they can bang & be titled 'a man' over it". That part in my perspective is due to how they were nurtured in that area. Before you know it,... they continue on banging these women until they have a shit load of baby-mamas and they are either going to be a dad to their kids or just be a dead-beat father. That also depends if they come from a middle or high class status & think they can do whatever they want regardless if city law applies to them or not. Yeah they have the experience & the number of women they have been with, but the question I would like to hit them with are 1) Are any of these women still with them? Are they still willing to continue on having sex with the same guy or have they grown out of that phase already? 2) If the same guy still brags about how many women he's been with & how he's a God to these women,... are they still with him now? if so, where are they? Again that kind of phase is going to pass. He may have the experience & brag about how many women he's been with, but if he's not married & doesn't have a wife,... what does he have to show for? nothing. Those type of guys don't come across as being grateful about anything. They have everything handed down to them on a golden platter ( again if they come from a middle or high class status ) never nurtured about humility & their personalities of coming across as immature assholes never change unless they have some type of life altering experience,... then maybe their personalities might change but that's still a maybe.
As for guys between the age brackets of 18 - 25 & up,... if they are nurtured right,... believe it or not,... yes they can commit to a romantic relationship & have their own families with their partner. That's very much possible.
Speaking from my own personal experience and I am not necessarily speaking for anyone else on this site:
I thought I was the smartest dude out there. I thought I had life figured out. Nobody could tell me any different. I was 33 when I discovered other wise. Came to realize I didn't know shit. I am still learning the basic I feel like now. I had an extremely humbling experience and got brought back down to earth. I needed it but now I look back and don't stop thinking "wtf was I doing".
With that being said, I didn't even know I wasn't ready for anything. I didn't have a effin thing figured out. So my point is maybe think of that when making your decision. Even though somebody may look and tell you they got it figured out (and good chance they are not lying because they don't know any better). Don't believe them. Do it when your ready and not for what the other person believes. If you are not sure, search for some sort of personal journey. Push yourself in uncomfortable ways and awkward situations. See what you are really made of. You will learn a lot about yourself and what you really want in life.
Most men aren't actually ready to settle down until they get closer to 30. I feel like that's why my husband and I work so well. We have a ten year age Gap and we always seem to be on the same page because of it. Plus I feel like I don't have to worry about silly things like him finding another woman because he's already been "around the block" so to speak. It may be foolish of me, however it makes me feel more confident in our relationship because he chose to marry me after being with all those women.
Very case by case. I dated a guy for a few months last year who was “afraid of commitment”, he is 22 and was 21 when we met. He had a girlfriend previously and that allegedly turned him off relationships. Tbh, he was generally immature and shady. My current boyfriend is four months younger than me and while I was the one who asked if we could be official, he says that if I hadn’t asked he was planning on asking first thing the following date. He was the first one to say “i love you”, and has been talking marriage and kids for the future for as long as we’ve been together. Age doesn’t completely affect whether or not a guy is ready. It has to do with maturity and whether or not the person thinks they have met someone who is correct for them.
It’s also important to mention that previous to my boyfriend I was also pretty scared by commitment because I was afraid to end up with someone who wasn’t right for me. This hesitation disappeared after my first date with my boyfriend. So it really does have a lot to do with whether or not the other person is right for you.
Nature. Why should they commit at that age?
Why assuming immature in every option? Just your perception? Biased!!
Seriously, do you want a 25 year old guy, as a husband, and having a family? No wonder there is so many divorces if that is what women think!!
Most guys aren't even close to 'husband/father' material until their early 40s!!
Women expect too much, from too young of guys, then blame ALL men, for the young ones that are unable, and unwilling to commit!
Who's fault is that, really? Misperceptions of them, and trying to force them to be what they aren't?
I’ve yet to find one that is ready for all that stuff. Men have the luxury of being able to wait longer to have kids, their bodies can produce children longer than women’s. And they’re not raised to act mature either, which is why girls are seemingly more mature than boys. I know someone who STARTED cooking at 26.. a guy, obviously. I started cooking when I was 11. I was taught to make simple dishes just in case and I could do that. When I speak to pears, very few guys have learned basic life skills while almost all girls had mastered them already by 16, because they were taught to. We allow boys to be kids longer than we allow girls to be kids, which ends with immature men that need longer to mature and be ready for kids, marriage, etc.
I don't think it's that because most guys are nice guys that would love to commit to one it's just girls only notice the bad boys and ask such questions and personally it's i think it's very paradoxical like or a guy is too nice (which is stupid) or a guy likes it too much fucking around (it's kind of a confidence booster and then it just becomes something that you usually like to do) now in my own experience i don't know how i matured but it had to do with me having feelings for my girl best friend (she knows about the girls i slept with so i don't know how to try things with her I'm keeping it on hold for now) .. so i think the problem is about emotional attachment when it comes to immature guys and not being too nice to guys that are actually nice
Humbug!(I have always wanted to say that (≧▽≦) ) I think anyone can be mature and commited no matter the age maturity comes from within (・ิω・ิ) and u can commit to something as long as u want to do it and u have a strong drive bruh I was in a relationship with this guy for like 6 months and more when I was twelve. I like to think we actually had some strong feelings for each other I knew I did (・∀・)👌 the point is... I'm not sure anymore cause I talk to much not making any sense of anything but I hope u got something (・∀・)👌
I'd say if you want them to stay make a mutually made plan. In terms of family and give them a grounded reason to stay. Its like a no brainer that young guys might get up and leave if you don't make the relationship seem like a mutual benefit. Particularly if the friendship/relationship hinges on FWB's.
Not to mention a huge plus when it comes to a relationship is how many "wifey" stuff can the girlfriend do. If the only thing a girlfriend can do is satisfy the need for sex. Its honestly pretty obvious why a young guy in their 18 to 20's may just bounce around. Its still early life.
Its not like we live in the 1800's where man kind only lives till their 40's.
I say yes , cuz I was that age once , and how I look at love now is completely different from how I looked at love when I was younger , usually guys that age are selfish and only really care about themselves , they are still learning and talking out their asses for the most part to get laid. When I was that age I really didn’t put myself in her shoes I pretty much looked at what was best for me at that time. But we all have to learn somewhere , Now that I am older girls in their 20’s tend to like older guys cuz we have been through it and are maturer in the sense of knowing how to treat a girl and not really in it for ourselves. I know I am going to be bombarded from saying all this but the truth of the matter is just the way it is , I am answering this off of my own experiences in life and the girls that I have dated that were in their 20’s that have told me why they were attracted to me , mainly cuz I was mature and didn’t play games like guys their age did
Well you're right about the younger ones talking out of their ass lol. They basically were yes men but only told me what i wanted to hear out of fear of losing me. I mean i like yes men but only the ones who genuinely want to do what they're saying yes to
Kinda tough,
I don't think I'm "not ready to commit to a relationship", but I personally do not want to get married or have kids. I just want to enjoy my life, the whole thing, and that means not having snot-nosed brats take away my 30's.
I'd be happy to find a woman who wanted a long-term double income no kids relationship with me. And if I found her, although I don't really like marriage, I'd get married if she set that as a prerequisite. If she starts to want kids later, then we're gonna break up though. I am not gonna start locking up my liquor just to keep sticky little hands off of it.
Before my long relationship, I thought most guys from 18 to 24 were indeed more looking for girls to fuck then for something serious. I can't even count the times I went on dates and never saw the guys again once we had sex. Then I had a long relationship that sadly ended.
Now I'm older and single, so are the guys I date and I feel like it's even worse. Guys still just date me to empty their balls, but now they are more straight froward about it and I guess I'm more accepting to how this whole thing goes and I try to have a good time, less worrying about whether it's right or wrong.
Yes, I do. It obviously depends on his personality type but I think it's very common and as they say men usually mature slower than women there's nothing wrong with that though but it can make dating hard if you wanna date someone your age and you're younger than 25. I think many men under 25 struggle to commit to one person and even those who can commit they may not be the best partner because they're immature and can't put in all the necessary effort. I'm glad I turn 24 this year. I think that most men who are ready to commit under 25 gets taken very fast, like I know some guys who met their current partner when they were 15-16 years old and they're still together.
I'm 18 and most of the women I've talked to without telling them my age think I'm older. Some of us are mature and ready for commitment, but then there are the others that act like children and give us young adult men the bad stigma. I get mad at people who say "Aww you're just a kid" or "you're soo young" yes I get it my age is but my mental state and way of thinking is more mature than most men older than me.
As far as maturity, that just depends on the specific person and can go both ways. But it can also be "smart" vs "immature". You should wait until 25 before thinking about marriage and children. Experts will tell you this and I agree 100%. You're still mapping out your life in these years with school, career etc. Marriage and children should come after that, and by 25, most people are pretty set as far as how things are going to go with their lives and are more ready to settle down. So much can and does change between 18-24
Well it depends on the guy and the maturity level , and what they really want because if they're looking for a long-term relationship they're going to go for a older woman if they're looking for a short-term they're going to go for somebody younger that
likes to party no responsibilities and have fun I say this as because I'm with somebody that's younger than me and he stood up at 21 when he didn't have to be a father and chose to be a father so it's either way it depends on the guy his responsibility and what they're ready for the next level of maturity. the question that should be asked straightforward is what do you see your future being like in 2 to 3 years if they say nothing party and I don't know then it's time to find somebody else to see if there ready for that question to be answered for you
Quite the opposite. I’ve met really mature 19-22 year olds who were ready to commit. Their flaw however was that they were quite indecisive and look at you as more of a mother figure who guides them on what to do rather than a girlfriend who can walk the path with them
this mf SPITTIN as usual
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It's up to that person how they look at other person because we often tend to like people of same mentality. So mature will find out mature and immature will go out with immature. And from 23 to 28 guys are like in a journey for struggle as financial and job stability. So there are some who won't commit because they know their place.
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I can ask the exact same question about girls and women of pretty much all ages. Do you want to hear it?
I see women at 25 years still holding very dear to social media as if that matters more than reality. I thought that's for girls in middle school.
Yes, it's TRUE most PEOPLE are not fully matured until after 25. That's bc our brains are still developing. Since women tend to mature a bit faster than men, that age is a bit lower, but not much.
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=141164708
I think "commitment" is closely linked to responsibility. And the first responsibility a man need is to have a career that pays for everything he needs, including a house and car, with cash in the bank.
And guys below 25 usually don't have those.
Hence while they may desire more from a relationship, their ability doesn't permit. So they just go for sex, until perhaps after 25, that they can eventually "settle down".
saw something like that in a book once but it was not even a good read, though i think fiction is the only way they can do anything responsible lol. if you want reality read romeo and juliet , that how most end up because they can't deal with real life things.
Some women want guys to commit. Other guys tell a woman they want to commit and she runs away. You can't win. Either no one knows what they want or everyone is just talking to the wrong people.
I mean I'm 24 and been with someone for 5 years so I honestly think that it just depends on the person
It amazes me how women like to shame men supposedly because they are not ready to commit (in other words destroy their lives for women) and at the same time we are surrounded by irresponsible women who in their 40's still behave like 15 year olds and then expect us to be the clean up guy and prove ourselves like none of the two million dicks they fucked ever bothered to prove themselves. Women are the definition of double standards and hypocrisy.
You can't really paint everyone with the same brush.
However, with that being said. I'm 27 and I would not date anyone younger than me. They would have to be 27
i was 23 when i thought i found the woman of my dreams... i was ready to sacrifice everything including going to a country i knew almost nothing about, didn't know the language, was turning my back on my friends and family just for her to be happy. True most men are immature at that time though
Wise men (and women with assets) will never be ready to commit to marriage under current laws.
As for the rest... I'm 24, own two large houses outright and a business that was generating serious income until the Covid-19 pandemic, and it is still running in the black, albeit just barely.
I'm 19, but I've always wanted commitment. Sure, when I'm single I tend to mingle more casually, but when I like someone, i want it to be for commitment, not for short term fun.
Most, probably. At that age, very few of us are even aware of who we are or what kind of life we want to have, let alone who we would be happy to spend the rest of our lives with. I don't think that's something unique to guys, either.
The majority of men aren't ready for a serious relationship (something with marriage potential) until their late 20s/early 30s these days, so, I voted B. Exceptions exist, but the are exceptions: relatively rare.
As a guy who was once 25 and under, I look back knowing that I was definitely not mature enough, especially for marriage.
Because at 18 your hormones and sense of reasoning are sharp and raging, at that stage your parents should actually plan that for you and guide you also setting you up with the help of the government, hence they are sexually active and can hide to have it, they are matured and ready, money is just the trick of society
Who you think is not mature might be mature enough to understanf the depth of commitment and responsibilities coming with it. Might have already too much on the plate.
The same could be said for girls of the same age group. As with everything else, don't tar everyone in a group with the same brush. Everyone is different, the age group you're in doesn't define you.
Totally depends on the guy. A good way to tell is if he is comfortable without running back to the sanctuary of his buddies than he's mature. If he still lives w/ Mom, that's usually not a good sign.
I am commited since I was 15 and i'm together with same woman for the past 20 years... I'm 35... It is the same girl I met when I was 15... ⚘
yes, but frankly that goes *even more* for gals under 25. Most are still in their "good time" phase, and not looking to settle down at all.
"good time phase" disgusts me
@LEADFOOTboi However, that is where they are. "Party hardy" phase? "Ride the Cock Carousel" phase? I don't know how else to describe it.
i don't believe this phase is mandatory to be a person... or mature? if they wanna call it that
@LEADFOOTboi It certainly isn't, but I am just observing what is going on and has been for some time. I didn't say I *liked* this phenomenon, just that it exists.
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I think it's unfair to generalize in this,
There are definitely some guys who are ready for it, and others who are not, which is why it's better to take sometime, a couple of months if not a year or more, to see if he's gonna be committed or not,
I believe this topic all depends upon upbringing! If your brought up right and influenced properly than your probably a model person! and th ed opposite for poor upbringing!
Age and gender are not the primary determinants of maturity and their ability to keep a commitment. Some tend to mature faster than others and some may never mature but enough will figure it out enough to be able to keep the human race going.
Seems like a loaded question, ya think? The same can be said for many women. Women are described as "being more mature" despite not being legally mandated to register for the draft as men are in the United States (Different in Israel)
Yea cause there in college and there is to many woman so they want to meet and have sex with a lot of woman. Also they are young. Guys that are even over 25 depending on the guy is not ready to commit as well.
I voted c, because I married my husband when he was 24.
Still a young age, when people don't know yet what to want from life I'd say, but not everyone is like this
Not all but probably a majority of men/boys in that age group (18-24)
Not really... They can be quite mature with older women
Yes we are. Men are not smart as women. My feminist mistress said this to me. And she is right. We men came to this world to serve women. Any women can humiiliate me for get rid of stress.
@Submissive_wallet "Men are not as smart as women"... right, until something needs to be designed, built, maintained, installed, reparied, killed, defended, protected, et al.
If there ever were a real Pandemic that decimated the population, you would see gender roles revert back to normal pretty fucking fast.
Depends on the individual. I was committed by 17, married at 20 and still together. Some just need more time to come to that point.
Damn Bubba, married at 20?
Yep 20years married last month. Don't mind my profile age. I put the wrong date 🙄
Hmm I think it's a two way street both for guys and girls
Not true. I had a number of committed relationships before turning 25
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