Why does an unmarried woman make society uncomfortable?

[Hans1999]

[MrOracle]

Here's why:

When you are young and through middle age, it's not THAT tough to be single. But you hit 55-60, and now being single means you may never be able to retire, and working full-time in your 60s or 70s isn't fun for anyone, but what are most women going to do in their 60s and 70s? Certainly some will still be pretty vital and energetic relative to their age, but many will not be. But without having had a "team" (marriage or long-term relationship) when she was younger, and without having children to rely on, how is she going to survive?

Many women have health issues and can't do the kinds of jobs in their 50s and 60s that they could do in their 30s and 40s, so unless she's in a corporate desk job, she's likely going to struggle. And if she doesn't own her home outright and doesn't have her own investment savings (and being single her whole life will make having those things much more difficult), then the costs of living are likely to eat her alive.

The same is true for men, of course, but men tend to be better capable of working later in life, and tend not to live as long anyway. Men also know that they need to plan for their future with investments and so forth. This isn't to say that it's easy to be single as a man - it isn't, and men face all the same challenges - but I think men tend to be more ready for them in the decisions they make. For example, men are more likely to buy a house, while women are more likely to rent, as women will prefer to have lower payments (requiring fewer work hours and/or a less difficult job) and a landlord to fix things, or to be able to move easily. But renting builds no equity. The man may only have a small, crappy house, and the woman a more upscale apartment, but the house's worth will be $500k+ while the apartment will be worth $0 as it isn't hers.

We all know that the cost of living will continue to rise. We know that single people tend to have far lower net worth than married couples (or at least, long-term relationship partners) who built equity together. And without children, you aren't likely to have family to support you in old age. So, this will mean a lot of women who lived pretty well through middle age but end up in public housing in old age, usually around drugs and gangs and theft and violence. It's a sad situation.

[Whitemeatchicken]

Depending on both spouses, like if only one has a retirement savings, they may not be able to retire either because it can’t support two people.

[MrOracle]

@Whitemeatchicken Yes, but it's statistically FAR more likely to be able to have significant savings when you are in a long-term relationship working together, than two people living separately. It's not a guarantee, but if you look at the numbers, not being in a relationship is going to mean a LOT more people who can't meet their own expenses when they're older, and more of them will be female.

[Whitemeatchicken]

My grandparents had to live off one retirement. It was a nightmare.

[MrOracle]

@Whitemeatchicken Mine did as well, but my grandparents were able to live comfortably to the end (which was last year). And they started out dirt poor, and my grandfather worked 32 years as a welder and steam fitter, first building ships and later working in refineries - all very dangerous and dirty work. He was able to make enough to invest a bit and pay off their house (it was a 50's crackerbox house that he added on to), and had another 17 years on a little 7-acre tree farm which they loved, and then 8 years in a nice home in the mountains. Despite living into their early 90s, they had enough money to live comfortably. My grandfather finished high school and my grandmother just 9th grade, but working together, they had great lives. Not fancy, but solidly middle-class, which isn't bad coming from "white trash" beginnings.

[pervertedjester]

Hell anyone past 30 who isn't married or in a relationship becomes uncomfortable because people treat you like a freak or weirdo for going it alone. Get past 40 and remain unmarried then you'll see the real shit show. That's when they really drag your ass through the rumor mill. I've have had close friends my own age, who enjoy being single as a way of life, had to at some point or another create and maintain fake "relationships" so people mind their own damn business and stop passively convicting my friends of wanting to be happy and alone.

[Sarahr123]

Because some people have this stone age mentality that women need men to survive. Even some women have that mentality. We don’t need men. Strong women know that we don’t need men and that’s what I’ll tell my daughters too. Strong women will only be with a man because he treats her good and she loves him. NEVER because she needs just any man around. No we don’t need anyone. We are enough for ourselves because we are strong willed us women who don’t think we need men.

[YaBoiJacob]

*misogyny*

[fantasticass]

Thank you Sarahr123 for teaching your girls independence. My mother also taught us never to rely on anybody for anything. If you wanted anything, you worked for it. I'm a single woman by choice, and I have no complaints. 🇨🇦✌

[YaBoiJacob]

@fantasticass Yo, are you from Canada? I got stuck in America, home to the inconsiderate...

[MissDawn7961]

Sarahr123 - U R lying here ! for women do need men ! U will tell your daughters that women do not need men? you got pregnant by a man to have your daughters ! U R a lesbo aren't U ! you really R retarded ! think about what U R saying here B for U show us your ignorance

[MissDawn7961]

@YaBoiJacob - U R right for U live N a country that U R putting down here ! U R a sorry a$$ of a person too

[YaBoiJacob]

@MissDawn7961 you really confused me with all the abbreviations, also what is your problem? can't respect others opinions?

[Sarahr123]

@MissDawn7961 NO I AM NOT a lesbian you ugly old woman. I am a young beautiful and independent woman who was raised by a woman single handedly. It doesn’t matter who gives birth to a child. It matters who raises the child. You can be a miserable old witch and think you need a man just to survive because you’re ugly af but we beautiful women don’t.

[YaBoiJacob]

@Sarahr123 SPEECH, LETS GO QUEEN!!!

[jennifer_bloom]

A lot of married woman will not allow their husbands to be friends with a single woman and a lot of married woman will not be friends with a single woman out of fear the single woman will try to steal her husband so that might limit her social chances but I think overall it also allows you to be friends with people a married person might not be able to accept as a friend such as an opposite gender friend or a single or divorced same gender friend.

[annie6815]

So a married woman could also steal someone’s husband. Lol

[ChrisMaster69]

Eh?
they don’t seriously don’t understand the question.

maybe in 3rd world countries but not an issue here.

if a girl does not want to be married, and prefers to be single or simply live with a guy or girl then she can, she does not need a ring on her finger or 30 minutes in a registry office.

Society is not that concerned if a woman is unmarried, definitely sounds very 3rd world.

saying that I went to a great pagan festival 2019 where 2 of my friends got married both long term unmarried women.

[normalice]

I suppose if she wants a husband but no one wants to marry her people will feel bad for her but no one will have any idea what to do about it. And the less well she veils her desperation the more people will be reminded of how little can be done aboutnit. Especially in smaller towns the plain fact is she will remain alone. It's similar to the discomfort people feel around the homeless - you can't do anything about it but you can't help feel a tiny bit guilty knowing your job isn't really that hard and could be done by anyone and while you coild toss them some cash right now you can't afford to basically adopt a full grown adult. But at least with homeless people you can take some comfort in knowing there are social programs, however stripped of funding, you pay into with taxes to help them. For single women there is nothing like that availible.

That's my guess anyway. I'm not actually familiar with anyone being uncomfortable around an unmarried woman.

[hi_it_is_me123]

I get what you mean. There are some backward thinking idiots who think especially single women above 30s are leftovers lol. It is more funnny when old bitter fugly b*stards who are single themself trashtalk single women above 30s and think that young women would want their used up old ass.

[JuneLady]

An unattached woman is extremely unpredictable, socially. Unmarried vs single is to be debated, but since most women (80% a few years ago, I think it's around 70% now) have a long-term relationship as one of their highest goals, it's bizarre.
Same reason we're scared of spiders. Its not for venom or size, we find them creepy because we don't know what their intentions are.

[VanillaSalt]

I’m curious if you really think 70% of women want a ltr why are less than 50% in one? It seems to me that women either don’t want that ltr just “someone” even if they have to share or else have such high standards they can’t find a good match.

Ide rather 50 years in a good relationship then 20 years in a perfect relationship and 30 years alone. But I don’t have particularly high standards either. Just don’t be a fucking twats almost enough lmao.

[JuneLady]

@VanillaSalt That's exactly it. Women historically and presently tend to marry up in education and financial status, rather than down. With the increasing rate of men dropping out of college and becoming discouraged by feminism, the ratio of strong, good men to good, gentle women is dropping, probably around at least 3:1 now. It's a problem

[VanillaSalt]

Omg I thought I was the only one who saw this. It’s all good to want more money but with an unwillingness to marry down which is most women how will this effect the averaging out of general finances and responsibility. Also as things average men will continue to fall because while feminists demand equal pay and ceo positions they don’t demand equal draft, equal responsibility, or equal representation.

I remember when Adele got divorced had had to pay 37% of her income for alimony. Feminists threw a fucking fit. That’s gonna become the norm.

[JuneLady]

@VanillaSalt This neo-feminist movement is very problematic. And I don't think most women are actually marrying for money when they marry up; it has to do with the man. Wealth is only an instinctive representation of a powerful man, which means status. (In case you didn't know, males are obsessed with territorty e. g. mates while females are obsessed with status e. g. the best mate).

[VanillaSalt]

I understand this but in today’s world money is status. You will rarely find a high status male that’s not well off financially.

[JuneLady]

@VanillaSalt Agreed. This does make some women look like gold diggers who are not, just marrying for the man himself. The distinction is the focus of the woman, I suppose

[VanillaSalt]

Obviously confidence is part of the persona that women like about men. But what about men that are failing? Men that can’t seem to attract women. This confidence in nothing could be arrogance. Do these women also love this arrogance?

I think women limiting themselves to dating only guys with this persona their attracted to is hindering them from seeing the vast majority of average men out there that are capable men, hard workers, romantic lovers, and better partners overall. Who’s going to stick with a woman who’s let’s say a 6? The 10 or the 6? These women swarm the same men that use and abuse them yet ignore average men and redirect all these negative feelings back at all men while still swarming the same men that threw them away once.

I see this as women’s weakness to overcome their genetic programming as much as men unable to control their violent outbursts.

I can’t with 100% certainty say that women are wrong for wanting the best man or men are wrong for wanting just sex... but I can say current society isn’t right. When a good man goes unnoticed because his persona isn’t that of a cocky asshole that knows anything’s his if he reaches for it. When women are pushed into spending their most value able years into a career over a family. I’m not sure how or even if society can be fixed...

Pushing the red button that ends society would be fucking therapeutic right now though lmao!

[psychoticanimaIIover]

I don’t think society is much more averse to unmarried women than they are to unmarried men, it’s just that at a certain age, if a woman is unmarried, her single status is seen as fixed, whereas a man in his 40s or 50s might be seen as “currently unmarried”, but people still expect him to settle down one day with a young, fertile woman and start a family.

[nelly83]

haha thats unlikely to happen that a man in his 40s-50s will settle down with a young fertile woman. Unless he's a millionare or celebrity, there is a very low chance of that happening. Who wants an ugly old dude if she can get a handsome young one?

[psychoticanimaIIover]

@nelly83 Probably, but it happens all the time.

[nelly83]

no it doesn't. its rather pretty uncommon

[nelly83]

its quite rare to find a man in his 40s to be married to a 20 something yr old. But him being married to a 30 something yr old would be easier to find.

[psychoticanimaIIover]

I’m not necessarily talking about 50 year olds ending up with 20 year olds, but you do see older men in their 40s or 50s settling down with women who are in their 30s. It happens! Not saying it’s a positive thing but it is enabled by both genders.

[nelly83]

I honestly have never seen a man in his 50s have a child with a woman in her 30s. But I have seen men in their 40s have kids with women in their 30s. And I think most 30 something yr old women aren't even interested in men in their 40s. Nobody likes old. There are many things such as physical attraction, life stage incompatibility to consider when going for a marriage.

[nelly83]

I think the 15-20 yr age gap is most common with celebrities or millionaires. But for the average guy, the chances of this happening is pretty slim.

[psychoticanimaIIover]

@nelly83 I actually think an average guy could EASILY get a woman 20 years younger, he just wouldn’t necessarily get an attractive one. Loads of 20-something women love having sex with older men, it makes them feel young and desirable.

[psychoticanimaIIover]

Especially the lower classes. So many relationships among quite chavvy people are between 16-year-old girls and 35-year-old men!

[nelly83]

I don't konw where you live that 20 yr age differences are common. I live in NYC, and the most common age gaps are 1-7 years.
Even research and statistics show that the most common age gap is 3 years.

www.psychologytoday.com/.../what-we-know-about-age-gaps-in-dating-love-and-marriage

Empirical evidence has also accumulated in support of women's preferences for older men, and as you might expect, the data often overlap with those data supporting men's preferences. As this sample of Conway-Beam and Buss's (2019) review suggests:

Cross-culturally, women report wanting partners who are (on average) 3.5 years older than them.
In online dating, women make the first contact with older men at a greater than rate they do younger men.
Marriage records show that women are marrying men who are older than they are by about 3 years.

[nelly83]

And plus, there is a huge difference between a 35 yr old man using a 16 yr old for sex versus dating her for marriage. A 35 yr old would not be able to relate to a 16 yr old in any way shape or form. he would most likely see her as a child where he can take advantage of her tight pussy.

[nelly83]

www.google.com/search

[Arivor]

@nelly83 Look at you, be pulling stats (sans confidence level for validation) and references! I'm almost impressed... except, the fact that you label yourself to be a gold digger who would only marry some way older dude for fame and money. Ya know there are many people your age who are also wealthy and famous... no need for elder abuse! Children these days!

[nelly83]

@Arivor Well this website is filled with poor, perverted, old men desperate for an 18 yr old girls attention. I'm just telling you that just because you want them, it doesn't mean they want you. Most of us are looking for a handsome, young man to fall in love and grow old with. I can't do that with an ugly old man who is about to rot in the nursing home in a few years. I still have the rest of my life ahead of me.

[Arivor]

@nelly83 I have children older than you, you impudent child. Get over yourself! Your attitude alone will ensure that you will never have a long-lasting relationship like me. I've been married to Diana, the love of my life, for close to 29 years... going strong with no end in sight. You are the type of girl I used to throw some money at for some quick relief.

[nelly83]

@Arivor don’t blame me. Blame it on your old single counterparts on this website who chase their women , younger than their daughters , for sex. Way too many perverted old men on here.

[Arivor]

@nelly83 OMG! Yet another narcissist who never takes responsibility for the problems in their life and always blames others. All that says is that you don't control your life because you allow others to control it for you. Every day, hour, minute and second you continue to get closer to that age you detest. What are you going to do to stop it? Willingly take that final step into the unknown? As always, I can't deal with naive children like you... you have a very long road ahead of you... I hope you can learn how to live with yourself. by the way - just ignore all the perverts and assholes... no matter what their age is. SMH

[nelly83]

@Arivor well what do u expect being an a website filled with Pervy old men? You expect me to look at you with rosy colored glasses?

[Commander_Red]

Because of tradition. Women are expected to have a husband and raise children, but not every woman wants that, and if they don't have it, then it's assumed that something is wrong with them when that's not the case whatsoever.

[VanillaSalt]

What if this was necessary? You know eventually you’ll be too old to work. What if you don’t have enough money to retire? Or what if you do but your too weak to do anything for yourself? When that dementia hits? It’s not that they don’t want it it’s that they don’t want it right now. And the odds of finding a quality partners better early on. I wish I could show you women the future you look forward to. A life alone without kids or family. Sadly I think most women deserve this life these days.

[Commander_Red]

@VanillaSalt With all due respect, it's great that you want that for yourself, a life with family and kids but people in general have a different definition of what happiness is. What you just said could easily apply to men who don't want to get married or have a family but no one even really shames them for their life choices. However, even if women do change their mind and settle down, I assure you, you wouldn't even be a choice.

[MissDawn7961]

Commander_Red - well stated

[Agape93]

It breaks social norms. As with anything against social norms, society can’t control them. If you can’t control something, it often comes off as unnatural.

[Alyssa11]

Some people think that it’s every woman’s dream to get married and have kids. It’s my dream but it’s not every woman’s dream.

[Dumpee]

Marry me! 💎

[Alyssa11]

Awwwww

[Laciandmaci]

My dream is to stay single, with my adopted daughter!

[Alyssa11]

@Laciandmaci Exactly! We're so diverse and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

[Unit1]

She doesn't give in to the expectations of society.
She's strong.

Do you remember those kids, that smoked tobacco and anyone, who didn't join them was isolated out as some sort of weirdo? Yeah, that carries over into adulthood but with marriage and maxing out the credit cards.

[Anonymous]

I'd add an unmarried or single who doesn't want a relationship neither partner.
I've gotten a lot of times, "I want to see that moment in wish you are with someone".
Hum... really? What's the curiosity or intention behing this? As if having a partner is a requirement for existing.

[Nazgol]

Because she's letting herself to be "free" and not choosing to endure the restrictions, hardships and troubles of married women or marriage in general

[Andres77]

a confident unmarried woman is a wild card. she could do anything. i think its a wonder to behold!

[art84]

I think if I was married and my wife had a friend who was single and female, it would make me awkward to be around her friend. Plus I am sure if the friend was much prettier than my wife, it would cause problems especially if my wife was the jealous type.

[JessicaNeo]

An unmarried woman has her own choices. She lives for herself so that might be the reason people consider them uncomfortable for society. She got her own space and we must accept her with open hearts.

[MysteriousDarkness]

Please give examples of what you are talking about. What country's society are you talking about?

[Hans1999]

Asian countries

[TOTEMPLASTER]

An attractive unmarried woman at a gathering with married couples is disturbing to the wives as they think - correctly - that their hubbies are fantasizing about porking her brains out, which is what guys are programmed to do by Mother Nature.

[Laciandmaci]

I am unmarried and VERY happy with a career and if society is uncomfortable, that is their fault, I am happy, and living my single life!

[Ellie-V]

People are just mean. It’s more aggressive and noticeable with older women. Folks really go out of their way to berate single women after 35

[hahahmm]

Give me some examples of society being uncomfortable.

[Daniela1982]

I didn't know we did. How do you figure that? And just remember, a divorced woman is also classified as unmarried.

[MissElizabeth]

I’m an unmarried divorced women who in a relationship that has no intention of getting married again 😂 lol

[Daniela1982]

@MissElizabeth So then you are not unmarried / single either and it doesn't apply to you.

[MissDawn7961]

Daniela1982 - and widows too

[nelly83]

i don't think society is like that anymore. It probably was this way 40 years ago

[JDavid25]

Actually nowadays it seems like a married woman makes society uncomfortable.. I don't know what time period you landed from, but yeah.. LOL..

[rjroy3]

Not sure i agree with the premise. Examples?

Society tends to do more for single women and single mothers than anyone else

[Mia-Wallace]

I don't accept your presupposition. Not in today's society anyway.

[JackSmy]

What? Who said? Sounds like BS to me!! I am not uncomfortable in any way! She can live HER Life, HER WAY, and NOBODY should be judging her!!!

[SngBirdy]

Why the fuck would a unmarried girl make anyone uncomfortable you troglodyte

[90sVibe]

🤣 best answer by far my dude👌

[MissDawn7961]

how does society know when a women is unmarried to B uncomfy with her? thanks

[YaBoiJacob]

well in the event that it is mentioned offhandedly, (or by older relatives) it causes people to feel obligated to ask the unmarried woman "when they are going to get married?" or "when are you going to get a boyfriend?"

[MikeTheBartender]

It doesn't make this guy uncomfortable! all of the women I sleep with are unmarried thank God!

[Avicenna]

It doesn't. It makes a lot of guys excited, in fact.

[Anonymous]

Because people think she's a feminist career bitch who doesn't value traditions and have weekend gangbangs

[anmari2001]

I dont feel like society cares if a woman is unmarried

[EyebrowChewie]

No one cares, every single persons opinion is different to each other 😂😂😂

[Anonymous]

Her entire body is meant for having children and it is a waste. She is failing to do her primary job in society. Her contributions to society otherwise do not make up the difference as we have others who will perform those tasks.

[shade_19]

Bcoz society is a bitch ! Yeaa
Society was a madafaka, society is a madafaka and will be a fukin madafaka

[phoebe245]

Society does care. Honestly I'm 22 and everyone i meet is always asking me why I'm not married yet or that I should have kids by now. They just want something to gossip about

[Anonymous]

What backward ass society is made uncomfortable by unmarried women? England circa 1850?

[Anonymous]

I’ve never come across someone who thinks like that.
At least you can make your own decisions being single without asking your partner to do things.

[Sevenpointfive]

why does an older single man being single make him unhirable?

[douride2]

I have never come across this. Where does it happen?

[jshm2]

She does?

You've never heard of teens and young adults, I take it?

[007kingifrit]

because unmarried means unable to succesfully breed and raise kids. less kids = less taxes in the next generation, less taxes = less social programs

[Mangospacho]

It makes society uncomfortable? I must be too busy with my own life to care whether or not someone gets married before a certain age or not.

[InferiorElegy]

I thought it was the opposite and that single guys were the ones that made society uncomfortable, I mean I'm just speaking from personal experience but what the hell does that matter.

[bannacookies]

Maybe depends where you're from with different cultures. Where I'm from it's not seen as weird.

[A_Bell]

More tales from imaginationville.

[RingOfFire]

It does? In what country? In America it is common these days.

[FatherJack]

Not here in the UK , marriage is much less common now.

[Aphrodite801]

You people just ask anything now, no matter how false

[msc545]

She is a treat to married women because their husbands might like her.

[MissDawn7961]

msc545 - you mean an unmarried woman is a THREAT not a - treat - to married women ! for the husband might like the unmarried 1 ! thanks

[msc545]

Yes that is exactly what I meant although it's conceivable she might be a treat as well. This is why we need an edit function in Gag

[Jack9949]

Because it suggests there’s something undesirable about her

[OddBeMe]

Anything “non traditional” is deemed dangerous. Like kneeling for the anthem in protest.

[petargrom]

Probably because she is a transsexual man, or so they think
Otherwise, a bride, so - great!

[Anonymous]

Well, it seems that an unmarried woman gives people an opportunity to chance. People think that a single woman is desperate and is available for married men too.

[Anonymous]

Why are you so dramatic? Nobody gives a fuck except her parents

[Marshymallow]

They think every girl wants to get married

[10thOfMay]

It's an American thing from what I've noticed

[modeve]

It's peculiar culture of conservative societies.

[cth96190]

It does?
I have not noticed.

[Unit1]

Check out the poor east. The poor are like 90% of the population and they breed like rabbits because tradition. Thus they keep staying poor and act surprised towards unmarried men and women alike.

[Dargil]

I haven't even noticed.

[invalid1]

Individuality is threatening.

[YaBoiJacob]

this is sarcasm... right?

[invalid1]

Just like Mark Wahlberg said,

Maybe yes, maybe not. Maybe Fuck youself!

[zagor]

Since when? I don't think it's the 1950's anymore.