If you look through all the "should I break up with him/her" questions here, you'll see that most of the answers on most of them are "your differences are irreconcilable, break up". More than once, I've been the only voice saying "think it through, you may be able to work this out; relationships take effort and patience". Attitudes have shifted, and not many people cling to the older mindset that says a relationship isn't something you HAVE, it's something you DO. So things get samey as the novelty wears off, and people bail. Has that lead to an increase in guys cheating? Maybe; it would make sense, but I have no information one way or the other. But I do know that it's lead to a LOT of relationships breaking up prematurely. It's not hard to see how resentment could arise from that.
This brings us to marriage. Transient relationships and frequent breakups may not be for me, but I'm not going to say it's wrong just because it's not to my taste. But when the Law gets involved, things change. In most of the first world, and particularly the United States, divorce laws are absolutely BRUTAL, and I've seen more than one man functionally destroyed by court settlements. Above and beyond having your family ripped apart, realizing that you're going to spend the rest of your life forking over two-thirds of your paycheck to a person who lied about loving you and only wants money could easily push a person to anger, or even hate. And it's not hard to see fear rising from proximity to that. And with more than half of marriages here ending in divorce, pre-nuptial agreements thrown out in record numbers, and 80% of those divorces being initiated by women, it's not hard to see why guys are gun shy. Hell, I outright refuse to do it myself until those laws are changed.
But there's a difference between hating a law that favors a certain class of people, and hating those people. Lots of people don't realize that, and far more choose to let their fear and their anger blind them- as pretty much every event of the last year has shown.
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Whatever you want to find on social media, you can find. People tend to seek out like-minded reporting to legitimize their own perspective. We'll generally be happier if we see people as individuals rather than as groups. All groups have a lot of variety, from one extreme to the other. I admit the actions of some individuals can turn people off to all individuals, but is that being fair? Would we want to be lumped together with all other people, being seen as others expect to see rather than who we actually are? Yes, there's a lot of garbage out there. Unfortunately, self-centered people easily lead others to be self-centered, also (after all, if no one cares about me, I might as well grab what I can).
If we want to reduce the hatred and lack of trust, all we have to do is show others we care about more than just ourselves. Be a good role model rather than give in to what we're conditioned as stereotypical. Learn to be observant, and become aware of cause and effect. Don't just allow yourself to be drawn to others based on limited aspects (ie body parts). Identify everything that will be important to you in a relationship long-term, and make sure any potential partner is compatible in all these areas. Make sure there are no other areas you couldn't be comfortable with for the rest of your life. Learn to view the whole package, and seek clarification when important parts are missing or unclear. See people for who they are, not the potential they can become. Never assume people who care will change for you. We don't change aspects that are important to us, and any changes we make tend to be temporary and/or conditional.
I admit finding most women I meet to be more interested in a provider of a lifestyle than a quality partnership, but, if I felt all women were that way, I wouldn't continue to put myself out there to meet other women. There's a lot of disrespect perpetrated by those who have felt disrespected in the past, yet it is possible for people to influence others to break down their protective walls (when they're not already set in concrete). It's as simple as making sure the other person always feels safe around you. Never assume, accuse, blame, criticize or tell people what they should or shouldn't do, just because you see others doing that all around you. Never dish out anything you wouldn't appreciate receiving yourself. I'm not recommending people become doormats... just be respectful and considerate of others. Keep your eyes open. If you're not seeing what you could value in a relationship, pass the opportunity by. You'll be happier alone than settling just to be in a relationship. Hopefully, you'll eventually find mutual appreciation with a special partner.
This site has had this vibe for 10 years. This shit has been happening for centuries And even gay couples have these problems, it’s not a gender thing . People just suck.
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Your generation seems to not think for themselves but to simply regurgitate whatever drivel they read on social media. Unfortunately, the haters of the world are much more vocal than the lovers.
It's definitely not a sudden thing at all. The animosity has been building up for years. I generally blame society's worship of career women. Right now, the Feminist narrative is that women need to be these super competent, professional, self sufficient "bad bitches" to be desirable. While that sounds good on its face, the reality is that men don't care about that stuff in women. Life being the bitch that it is, women (women especially, but this is true for men too) have a difficult time living up to their own expectations of themselves and they become bitter and angry people. So we have women competing with men for jobs and stuff, while still wanting to be treated with the dignity that men have traditionally treated women with, but men just aren't interested.
You have increasingly scarce resources being grabbed by an increasingly large number of people. Combine that with gender expectations and generally shitty attitudes and the next thing you know, you have a customized bowl of "I fucking hate the opposite sex" soup.Women ( along with the feminist rhetoric started to alienate men ) by blaming the mass population of me for rape, highjacking father's day in all forms of media claiming it as their own, separate them from their children, find every possible avenue to get a devorice in order to rob him of his earnings and property in which you're backed up by the legal system ran by bitter professional women & beta pussy whipped men. Men don't really hate women but we're done putting up with your childish temper tantrums, immature behavior and the bullshit you force feed yourselves about men to justify your illogical point of view; on the basis of cheating we shop around for better options than you just in case you decide to leave for no reason which most of you will do because you listening to your girlfriends who can't get or keep a man or for a man who you think is better than the one you have and his only intetion is to fuck you and move on to the next one.
Those are not assumptions. Those are provable facts. When the entire system, the government and your armies of white knights serve your vagina on a daily basis, constantly struggling to find new ways to serve the devil between your legs and make your life so much easier than it already is, then yes women can't be trusted and no rational man in this world will ever get married. Marriage is for weak pussies who are more afraid to die alone instead of thinking about how they'll live. IT DOESN'T WORK! When you give security and freedom to a woman SHE WILL FUCK YOU UP because she thinks this security and freedom you're providing is a weakness! Add on top of all this the benefits a woman gets with divorce and you only encourage this fuckin disaster. Marriage and relationships serve ONLY THE INTERESTS OF WOMEN. Men get little to nothing out of it. The boobs aren't worth the squeeze.
Right? I thought we were supposed to be loving, cuddling and kissing each other. And here we have a small but silent gender war going on but mostly on the internet anyway. If you're like me (and I think you are) you do best by limiting exposure to such online forums, where one gender battles the other and go out more often and interact more with lovely people instead. For instance I briefly went to the business center building earlier today for my job and I saw several beautiful office ladies working and going back and forth. None of them looked like they intend to loot my pocket because they are making their own money.
I think many men are waking-up to reality. Tired of all the BS and are just not taking it anymore.
Less jobs, financial security, all the man hate, marriage is way too risky, which kills good chances of having a family or a wife to grow old with. So they play the field with willing women, stay single, and enjoy the freedom.
The traditional family lifestyle is not worth the risk or effort for men nor is a long term relationship.
I was married for 17 years, I wish I learned that much younger. I have to say, I love my single life.The chief reason for the apparent mistrust between the sexes is Selfishness. The fact that standards and values of the masses have changed in modern times is a symptom of this Selfishness. It is easier to measure people by the size and shape of their reproductive organs and by their wallets than to take time to know them personally and listen to their feelings and opinions. It is more convenient to seek friends with benefits than to seek friendships. So with such relatively new standards, trust has been betrayed and, in many instances, is dead.
Feminism.
This group has promoted hatred for men for a long time now. They have rewritten history, accused men of being oppressive rapists, they made governments create laws to blatantly favour women at men's expense.
As for marriage. Divorce courts punish men. Family courts punish men.
A woman has the ability to take everything from a man and he will still be told he has it better because penis.The internet, easy access to dating apps and hook ups, the sexual revolution and feminism, divorce courts and alimony, legal favoritism, media bias, ugly and unfair custody battles, hypergamy, top 10-15% of the male population, making cheating trendy, all contributed to this. Like one man said, "Learn Chinese now because in 20 years we'll all be speaking it".
People are inundated with social media 24/7. Every little part of their lives is available all the time. People text but they do not communicate. Everyone has lust but not very. much love. Kids are told that if they don't hook up on the first date they are losers. Truthfully I get a little sad when I read a lot of posts on this site.
You are right it is sad.
Almost like the new trend is to hate on each other. So many people are bitter and for no real good reason. Part of the blame I believe it to be social media who spreads stereotypes really fast and give people the wrong impression of what the norm is.
We all should be able to no generalize anyone into the same bad and talk. Actually listen instead of judging.This isn’t new. You’ve always had to sift through a lot of objectionable people to find someone likeminded. If you’re looking, you will find him. The urge to find a partner and have children is strong in most people, no matter the gender politics of the day.
You aren't getting a 360 degree view of this- it's angry people that make the most noise.
Some of the assumptions society has come up with your referring to happens to be true. Guys need to protect themselves these days because Family Court isn't helping them.
because men and women both have been screwed over so many times it's not even funny
For men, it's #metoo, divorce rape, and hypergamy. All good reasons to never marry or trust women.
social media helped stupid people to spread their ideas, gender movements destroyed everything
It's called "feminism" and "equality"... congratulations, you won.
the mgtow and incels of this world and the feminazi's and third and forth wave feminist movements and the wgtow (women going their own way) really fucked things up
There are always the bad apples who ruin it for everyone. Our generation is fucked.
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