What do YOU think?
Do you think that the obligation to be faithful continues until the day a couple gets divorced?
What do YOU think?
I'm of the last one but thing is that the only valid reason imho for a divorce is due to infidelity, death threats, attempted murder, our physical spousal abuse. In which case as far as I am concerned weather the law finalizes it or noth the marriage is null and void as the other person broke the vows and at that point I have every right and justification to leave. At that point do as you like I say. But if it's just "we grew apart" you both have an obligation to try to fix the issue and rekindle and just in MY personal opinion is not a reason for divorce based on my Christian belief and values. Your mileage may vary and that's fine too. You life, your choices. 👍
I agree about preserving the marriage but if your partner doesn't want to stay married, there's not much you can do to save it.
It's a promise, not an obligation. It takes time to end a marriage. The relationship always ends first. When the relationship has ended, the promise is over.
I think the moral obligation ends when you both mutually agree to a divorce AND agree that while you are separated (waiting on the divorce to be finalized), you both agree that you are free to move on with your life sexually or otherwise vs making the choice to be separated with the goal of working on yourselves separately to get back together. For the former, why would you hold on to something that is no longer there anymore. You are breaking up for a reason or several and you know most likely after the divorce they will move on, so what is the point of holding on if the divorce is imminent because you can't stand each other anymore.
Exactly!
I mean if they truly loved their partner, had respect for them and care about their feelings, then they should be not even think of being with someone else until they get divorced.
Love has a way of disappearing when your partner says that they want a divorce.
This is why I said loved, not love your partner. Whether the person himself/herself has asked for a divorce or their partner asked for it, but there was a time that he/she truly loved their partner and out of that respect and being considerate of their feelings, it's better to wait until you are legally divorced. That's what I'd do if I were them
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Well actually, adultery used to be a crime in the West. And in Muslim countries and other conservative places, adultery still is a crime with harsh penalties. Even if we ignore the religious and legal consequences, it's still immoral to cheat on your partner as it can cause them psychological pain and potential transmission of sexual diseases. If any children are involved, that can traumatize them or result in the person you're cheating with potentially abuse them too. The point of marriage is to have a life long union and to raise a family with legitimate children, so why bother marrying if you're gonna break that vow?
Okay, but the question is not "is it okay to cheat on your spouse?" The question is, "if your relationship is COMING TO AN END, at what point is it okay to not feel obligated to be faithful?"
And I certainly do NOT condone unfaithfulness. I have been dating and in relationships for the past 51 years and never once cheated on a partner.
I guess when the couple has officially divorced or in the process of being divorced, such as agreeing to separating in front of a judge
In my jurisdiction, separations do not require judicial approval.
Well I don't know where you're from
Florida, US
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Okay. Is there a point to that coment?
The commitment is to oneself (emotions) and to protect the emotions of the other... the love is valuing them, and the family created. The marriage is supposed to be until death do you part. But is that the emotional death or physical?
The answer is, it depends. I don't think it is based upon the timing of court systems.
What's really important is keeping the relationship and love alive, nurturing and growing. I'd put my focus there. I recognize though, and have seen much, that life isn't always so simple or easy and so I don't stand to judge others.
I knew a girl who her husband ran off with someone else, he said he would file for divorce as he had more money than her, she couldn't afford to so after a time she just said whatever and started dating and eventually moved in with another guy. She never heard from her husband, when finally saved up enough money to start the divorce process, he couldn't be found anywhere to be served.
She couldn't afford to pay anyone to find him either, so she gave up and lived with her boyfriend for over 10 years, had kids with him... then found her husband was in prison in another state and finally able to get the divorce done.
She just never had much money to deal with it, but I can't imagine someone in her situation to stay faithful for over a decade.
I think the obligation should be what's been agreed upon between the two. I see it like business terms... a breach of agreement is basically the same as a promise broken. Like breaking a contract. All the bullshit starts with assumptions of the 'terms of agreements,' or the outright lies and breaking of actually agreed-upon terms.
I'm on the verge to file for a divorce but now he just had a CT scan and has a fatty liver! He'll most likely continue drinking and it will turn into cirrhosis so I'll just stay.
Isn’t that just wasting more valuable years?
You should be faithful when you officially are a couple until you no longer are one. Marriage doesn't change this facts, it's just paper work. Breaks are simply not a thing. You can't call a break and be unfaithful you really need to end it.
I'm not religious but spiritual if that makes any sense. I'd probably never get married but if I did vows mean something to me & that would bind me until death. I wouldn't impose that on her, just myself.
That has to be the stupidest thing I've read today and there are some redneck posts on here. Being married is a contact. You must be faithful to the word of the contract else you have no contact or legal cover. Morality is subjective these days.
The end begins when you stop being faithful and start being unfaithful.
Being faithful does not guarantee that your partner won't end your marriage.
I think that different couples can agree on different things but generally speaking I’d expect my partner to stay loyal to me unless we get a divorce.
Usually, a divorce, or something that keeps the couple apart, is why someone isn't faithful.
Okay, but the question doesn't ask you to explain why you think people are unfaithful. The question is "at what point in the break up process do you feel that it is okay to start dating without violating the promise you made to your former partner?"
If one believes in being faithful until a piece of paper is signed then they probably wouldn’t divorce in the first place.
When a couple decides to separate, which may or may not lead to divorce, they are both free to be with others.
It's actually faithfull "till death do us part" That's the entire point of marriage, isn't it?
Of course that’s the point but one person can’t make the marriage succeed and if your partner wants a divorce, you can slow down the process a bit but it will eventually happen. So, if you are in a deteriorating marriage, when do you feel the obligation of faithfulness should be abandoned?
Ever been married? Ever been divorced?
Agree. It’s a moral obligation, otherwise why be married
If you separate that's the end of the relationship. The divorce is just paperwork that can take dome time.
I voted D but I meant to vote C. So I basically agree with you.
probably the legallity of it says that they remain faithful until the divorce is final In practice it probably happens way before that.
That a long and incredibly disingenuous way of saying "I can't wait to cheat on you. I've already done it in my mind and now rationalizing it to see if you fall for it."
Marriage is called by God to be married and join as one till death of one of them
Yes, but if your spouse doesn't want to stay married, then you are going to be divorced.
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