Men, how are you suppose to lead a relationship? How do you lead one personally? And ladies how would you like a man to lead the relationship?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

[bamesjond0069]

Just make the decisions. A big one is stop indulging women with the restaurant question. I get you want to ask her where she wants to go but this isn't a good idea. Choose two places and then ask which one. And if she gets into i dont know stuff just go where you want. If she complains punish her in someway she had no right to complain about where you take her if she says i dont care and you're taking her out so tell her "date over sit in the car or dont, im getting some food if you want to join me ok or feel free to not but its not a date anymore pay for your own meal." You only have to do this once really. Its not really a punishment or ruins your date because she will come in and eat with you and pay her half. Works out just fine.

I think one of the overlooked parts of leadership is how you enforce your authority. Women behave as kids and little brats sometimes. At some point you need to put your foot down with their bad behavior and if you can't most women won't accept your authority. The will test you.

there's a lot more to it but i see men fail here a lot. You need some sort of correction for negative behavior. Your boss can fire you, dock your pay, change your responsibilities and privileges, or your schedule. All things you can really do in a relationship as well.

[Anonymous]

It's easy and difficult at the same time, to lead a relationship as man. First of all, and it will sound kinda cliché, but you must be very confident about yourself and the decisions you make at any situations, in addition, to be able to accept if you're making something wrong and fix it immediately, being a very secure man is very important because women, a lot of them, craves a man who they feel secure, protected and comfortable with. You have to make people to respect you and be able to handle any situations calmy in order to make feel a woman relax around you because she knows you'll take the right decision, a decision she'll not feel embarrassed, guilty, sad, etc... providing her a "bubble" she feels protected with, so she can give to you all her trust and the decisions you make. Every woman is slightly different, so you must find out what make her feel that way, what she cares about, her insecurities, what are her goals, what's she's looking for, etc. Don't fear to be a little dominant over her! But always be a gentleman. Otherwise, the main goal of being a leader is to, indeed, lead the relationship to something really good, something you both enjoy. It's easy because once you got all this, you'll be leading the relationship pretty well. But it's not that easy to get all this information or abilities.

[lilyanony1]

I like a man to take the initiative to plan dates.
Be confident in getting to know me. And letting me get to know him.
I need a partner that can lead without brute force or manipulation.
Just the confidence that he has a plan and back up.
Nothing in life is perfect some people have a knack for working things out whilst others don't.

Playing to their strengths understanding their weakness, being unapologetically themselves.

[lilyanony1]

Thanks for mho x

[Apple1996]

I don't like a man to lead the relationship. I prefer being with a guy that is chill and doesn't need to take control of everything

[RealMarek]

Being both loving and confident seems to work, being reliably stable and calm when stressful things happen, and being decisive when she asks how we should handle things but also drawing out her opinion and helping her be a part of decisions seems to work. I don’t think being bossy, discounting a woman’s opinion, or trying to win arguments is the way to go at all. When it comes to intimacy, paying attention to what she wants and gaining an intuition about it, and making it obvious I desire her, makes it easy to lead her sexually and that is something she really values.

[DaveJord]

I think if you as a man are approaching every relationship with the concept that you need to lead it, then you are setting yourself up for failure. In every relationship there are times where one persons takes the lead and the other follows, but that works both ways.

I hate it when the women acts like I need to step up all the time, because honestly at times you really just want her to step up... and that goes both ways. So there should be a fair amount of give and take and I think that is the best any women or man could hope for.

When the time for you to step up and lead comes around, and your with the right person, and you are emotionally open, respective and sensitive to her needs, you will know when to lead and how to lead and when to lay back and just be present and available to her.

[melnc]

It's not about who's leading who... It's about all good relationships are based on people respecting each other and being able to communicate clearly. An adult relationship is about two people who have equal rights, equal opportunities, and equal responsibilities.

[Anonymous]

It depends on the age of the woman. Or how she raised.

I don't date single parent raised women. Unless it was by single father. But I haven't come across that.


You let a woman know what were going to do. And we can discuss it. But 9/10 times I'm going to do what I see as best. Especially since majority of the woman and i date. I make nearly double their salary and I own my own home. No mortgage.

I expect to pay 66% she pay 33. And if we have kids I expect her and me to put the child first before anything.


The reason 33. Is because I wanna see her face to that number. I don't want a grown child I want a partner.

Other than that I just be "dating" these chicks.

[VIVANT]

What does your salary have to do with you among decisions for her if you are dating. I am genuinely asking. Are you saying you expect you to pay for her so you decide- Is that what you
mean?

I know you have not answered yet but in case this is correct I have another questions—- If you dated a woman making more than you would you pay your way and make your own decisions or have her pay and decide?

[Opinion Owner]

She can make any decision that don't matter like what we eat, or where we go on vacation.

Any business decision or financial decision is going to be me. And vice versa she has a fincical decision ill advise her. But it's her decision.

[Opinion Owner]

Most woman think there money is theirs and yours is also there's.
If she makes more than me the only value that matters to me is she smarter financially.

[Guy13]

Ephesians 5

Psalm 78:72

John 13: 13-17

[bamesjond0069]

Genesis 3:16

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@bamesjond0069: That doesn't apply to you. It applied to Adam and Eve and it was a punishment on Eve if you read the context.

[bamesjond0069]

So womens pains in child birth are no longer severe since its only about Eve? Smh. Common sense 👏

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@bamesjond0069: Adam and Eve received double punishment, one was for conception.

All women who decide to get pregnant will suffer pain in labor.

And her second punishment was Adam will rule over her and her desire will be Adam.

Adam's punishment was the ground was cursed, and he will have to labor all the days of his life to eat.

God is clearly talking to Eve and Adam in that scripture, not you nor me nor anyone else.

And quit acting as if you actually believe and care about the Bible.

You promote whoredom and threesomes claiming you will engage in one.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

*will be for Adam

[bamesjond0069]

None of that makes any sense. Everything listed there is for all people for all time until we are called to judgment. If you disagree fine however that is an extremely unique idea about the Bible that essentially all scholars and Christians don't agree with. But that doesn't surprise me because you are willing to twist all the biblical text from the plain English to something nobody could understand to support the liberal agenda. There is a reason all Christians are conservative.

I believe in the whole text of the Bible and that the OT scripture clearly allows for men to have multiple wives its listed in numerous places and never condemned. The NT essentially does not mention it. There is one hinting verse against and one hinting verse in support. So i call that a wash. I dont see it as an important issue either way or it would be specifically addressed and obvious like most issues are.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@bamesjond0069: Please shut up. So the things God said to Solomon applied to everyone for all time til judgement?

The promise God made to David that is throne will be forever applies to you and everyone til judgement?

You don't know what the hell you're talking about so hush?

The Bible is very specific who God was talking to in Genesis 3.

The serpent, Eve and Adam.

[bamesjond0069]

Maybe you should walk into a church and talk to the pastor about it. I'm not the one going to educate you on this.

[Guy13]

Firstly, Context is relevant.
Secondly, the Bible judges modern language…Modernity and this ages understanding of definition is not greater than the Bible. GO TO ORIGINAL LANGUAGE.
—(2 Corinthians 11:3) (Genesis 3:6) (Genesis 3:15)(Genesis 3:16) is clear.

Turning God’s judgment and wrath into some domestic discipline/S&M thing is at best MISGUIDED.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@bamesjond0069: I don't need a pastor to teach me the Bible. I can read and comprehend what I'm reading.

Genesis 3:14-19
So the LORD God said to the serpent: “Because you have done this, You are cursed more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field; On your belly you shall go, And you shall eat dust All the days of your life.

And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel.”

To the woman He said: “I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception; In pain you shall bring forth children; Your desire shall be for your husband, And he shall rule over you.”

Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’:

“Cursed is the ground for your sake; In toil you shall eat of it All the days of your life.

Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you, And you shall eat the herb of the field.

In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread Till you return to the ground, For out of it you were taken; For dust you are, And to dust you shall return.”

[Guy13]

We are to live an Ephesians 5 and 2 Peter Life with our women. Would you speak/treat your Momma the way you are speaking/treating other women.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Who me?

[bamesjond0069]

I mean what he said seems to apply to all snakes not just specifically that one that was Satan. Everything seems to apply to more than just Adam Eve and Satan in terms of the ones you could verify.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@bamesjond0069: Satan used a snake, but the punishment was to all snakes since snakes reproduce other snakes.

Does Adam punishment applies to you and me? No. I don't work no ground for food and probably neither do you...

[Guy13]

No the other guy…. namesjond0069.

[bamesjond0069]

2 Corinthians 11:14

All one needs to do is read the Bible. Most things are written about multiple times and in plain writing super easy to understand. When someone tells you that it requires all sorts of language skills, philosophy degree and other nonsense you know its wrong. When God says a man should not lie with another man as he would a woman. Boom case closed end of discussion. Nothing else to consider. Came from God and therefore its true.

[bamesjond0069]

Nothing seems contradictory to me. Women are to be as women and men as men. Men are to dominate women and women to submit. doesn't mean you dont love respect or do things for someone who submits to you. Your pov is like a 14 year old boy who accidentally opened a bdsm website for a second and closed it before mom walked in.

[bamesjond0069]

And Adam and Eve dont reproduce other people? 🤣 could you possibly make less sense?

[Guy13]

@bamesjond0069 you obviously have no understanding of hermeneutics, twist Bible to fit whatever sexual immorality you are trying to live, AND are determined to judge the Bible as you are God.
—You, review the original language SO you understand what the Bible is actually saying. Then, you would not sound like some compound freak who does not know how to either to interpret or handle the Word of God.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@bamesjond0069: You prove the point why conservatives are disgusting morons.

If God took the legs from the original snake, how the hell you think other snakes when they mate are going to have legs you dummy?

Nowhere in the Bible God commands men to dominate women, in fact Jesus taught to treat others how you would like to be treated.

No one likes to be dominated and controlled especially adults unless like I said they suffer from low self esteem and like be treated like trash.

Anyone women with some sense and self esteem will stay the hell way from you and men like you.

You're the type to suffocate a woman to a early aging and early death because you are toxic as hell.

[bamesjond0069]

The Bible is for all people. One doesn't need to know man's teachings to comprehend Gods word. A basic level of communication skills and the Book in hand are all one needs. Anything else being told is required of you is manipulation by those who worship Satan.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@bamesjond0069: You clearly don't understand the Bible. Talks about and brags about whoring around with whores and desires to engage in a threesome on here yet call yourself a Christian. Please.

[bamesjond0069]

"Jesus taught to treat others how you would like to be treated." Jesus out of context. Good job! Literally has nothing to do with our conversation but to someone who may not have read the Bible would sound good. Catering to the lowest common denominator i see. You will have to bring out your good arguments for me since i read the Bible in its entirety too many times for that.

[bamesjond0069]

Personal attacks don't change Gods word. Anyone who read the Bible would know how irrelevant that is to the conversation.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@bamesjond0069: How it's taking out context? The whole context is about loving your enemies, bless those who curse you etc.

Jesus taught if you want some specific treatment then give that same treatment to others. It doesn't mean everyone will guarantee that treatment back but the odds are in your favor. You get what you give.

You know you are losing the argument so you try to deflect. It's not going to work against me.

You're just another conservative who like to look down upon women and treat them like ish or think that women exist to serve you around the clock to your pleasure as if you are God Himself.

[bamesjond0069]

"The whole context is about loving your enemies" a wife is your enemy? Women are your enemy? Whoa dude, thats some serious incel level misogyny.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@bamesjond0069: I seriously can't believe how stupid you are?

Do you want me to post the whole sermon Jesus was teaching on Luke 6?

I've read that about 15 times before, and you probably never.

Jesus was making a point in his sermon to treat others as you want to be treated, yes that includes wife, neighbor etc.

Hey misogynistic insecure conservative, God actually commands a husband to honor his wife something I know you consider idiots will hate to actually view women in humans worthy of respect.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

*conservative idiots

[bamesjond0069]

So you should buy a woman a jock strap and cup if you want her to buy you one? Smh. What are you 5 years old? Clearly this is about respect. However you dont respect a woman by treating her like a man. Thats what Satan would have us do.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@bamesjond0069: You sound crazy like the typical conservative fool. ✌️

[Guy13]

@bamesjond0069 you’ve got to be a troll CAUSE no one can intentionally be as wrong as you are on everything as you are…. you little hateful simpleton. Your heart reveals itself. SEEK Jesus in prayer and on your knees.

[bamesjond0069]

You can't be wrong by reading and following Gods word.

[Guy13]

@bamesjond0069 I call it one blinded in his own lusts and Sin. See Genesis 2:24‼️
—Look, it is clear that polygamous relationship is in Bible. Does this mean they are Good in God’s eyes?-NO. We also see lying murder rape but is that Good in God’s eyes? NO. Does God use man’s Sun to further His Plan? YES!!
—Description does NOT mean they are condoned 🙄. THERE ARE NO VERSES THAT CONDONE POLYGAMY!!! In fact, the opposite:
Deuteronomy 17:10-20…. thy shall not multiply wives for himself, lest his heart turn away. Abraham’s Sin with Hagar brought Strife. David was punished for Bathsheba. The bottomline is, because man has free will, he chose the “not good-polygamy”. Because God used a sinful relationship, that man freely chose, to fulfill His Plan does NOT mean polygamy is GOOD.
—If Polygamy was either “Good” or “Very Good” it would have been “In The Beginning” RATHER THAN 800 years after Adam for polygamy to rear it’s sinful head.
—God made Adam and Eve as one husband, one wife, and one Flesh. There was not Adam, Eve, and Steve as one Flesh.
-There was not Adam, Eve, and Sarah as one flesh… nor is there Adam/Adam or Eve/Eve. If two, as in 1 man (Adam) and 1 woman (Eve) then 3 or more in any arrangement or two of same kind IS NOT GOOD and against the Will of God. And Woe to you if you pursue wrongful knowing as you will be given over to your sin with a hardened heart the size of pharaoh’s during plagues in exodus. Seek God in repentance as your position is at enmity with God and you will be given over to your freely choosing Sin…. eternally separated from God.

See Genesis 2:24‼️

[bamesjond0069]

Look, it is clear that polygamous relationship is in Bible. Does this mean they are NOT Good in God’s eyes?-NO.

We also see lying murder rape but is that Good in God’s eyes? NO. Thus why its explicitly stated that its wrong.

—Description does NOT mean they are condoned. THERE ARE NO VERSES THAT CONDONE POLYGAMY!!! Except where explicit rules are given on how to do it.

For example:
Deuteronomy 17:10-20…. thy shall not multiply wives for himself, lest his heart turn away. Multiply is not add. Multiply specifically means increase in numbers greatly and rapidly. You can see this concept at play in Genesis where we are called to multiply. Multiply in Genesis most reasonable means to not have one child which is negative birth rate and population decline. So we are called to greatly increase numbers of children with multiply yet with wives we are not to multiply. Its simply a rule to properly have polygyny not a condemnation.

Abraham’s Sin with Hagar brought Strife. How so? It fulfilled Gods promise to Abraham.

David was punished for Bathsheba. Clearly not simply about polygyny. Do i even need to explain why? I sure hope not.

—If Polygamy was either “bad” or “Very bad” it would have been explicitly condemned. We are not in the garden so “In The Beginning” doesn't seem relevant in terms of how things are.

—God made Adam and Eve as one husband, one wife, and one Flesh. There was not Adam, Eve, and Steve as one Flesh. Agree. Male faggotry is explicitly stated as evil immoral anti God. So definitely no steve.

"-There was not Adam, Eve, and Sarah as one flesh… nor is there Adam/Adam or Eve/Eve. If two, as in 1 man (Adam) and 1 woman (Eve) then 3 or more in any arrangement or two of same kind IS NOT GOOD and against the Will of God." Easily explained because a marriage is a commitment between a man and a woman. A man has one marriage with one wife and one marriage with another wife. This is not polyamory or some nonsense but biblical polygyny.

[Guy13]

Why did you copy my answer. I see you agree with me

[bamesjond0069]

So you did not read? Sounds about what i was expecting. I actually did not copy anything but addressed almost every single issue you raised.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@bamesjond0069: Dude just quit. Polygamy isn't God's way.

God suffered it to happened because he destroyed the earth and the population had to repopulate and not mention with all the wars constantly fought in the ancient days.

One man can impregnate 10 women within one week, so that's why God suffered it to happened.

Once the 1st century came around and the earth was enough populated God put a end to polygamy in the new covenant.

One man only gets one wife.

[Guy13]

I’m tired of Simple Fools like yourself who can not think for themselves. Later

[Trend-Shatterer]

I don’t lead anyone or anything. We as people don’t live in a hierarchy and thus there are no roles to fill unless a specific couple create unique rolls for their relationship.

We are equal. I don’t expect women to have anything physically or mentally for me. I don’t know why people today are trying to develop relationships on past foundations. Men and women can lead today. But expecting all men to be testosterone factories is super stupid in all honesty. We’ve grown passed this concept years ago. Just go out with someone you like and stop expecting raw confidence 24/7

[ChrisMaster69]

I don’t lead as such, it’s a partnership.

my preference is for confident, intelligent women, someone that can think and not simply follow someone.

In some things yes I take the lead, however in others she does.

This is even in a very deep real life BDSM relationship, you really don’t want to be thinking 24/7 for your sub. They have a job, need to do stuff without your input, would do my head in having to lead 24/7.

[dustybiker]

Mine doesn’t. Everything is even. We discuss and plan everything significant together. It’s what makes it work.

[Chiarac2003]

I have submitted myself to my boyfriend. He controls every aspect of my daily routine.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

What you mean about control every aspect?

[Chiarac2003]

I do everything with his permission and have a list of chores that he wants done

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

I smell a troll account.

[Chiarac2003]

Ok.. than don’t ask.

[TacosRAwesome]

I prefer that he's responsible for himself and I'm responsible for myself and we discuss things and meet in the middle.

[Fireguy17]

it's supposed to be a partnership, so it shouldn't matter who is leading at any given time.

[Anonymous]

waste of time

women want to be the lead
when they really can't

and if they are not willing to let the man lead
as GOD wanted

guess what
good luck lol

[whereismyjohnny]

Why would he lead the relationship? It's 50-50.

[Blackcupcake]

I don’t expect him to “lead” the relationship

[Guy13]

Why not?…I’m serious. How does it work for you?

[Blackcupcake]

it should be a mutual thing…

[Guy13]

🤔. It should be mutual in that no one moves unilaterally without discussion…that’s what couples do, however, Leadership requires a decision maker. And the best Leaders should be gifted in service as well…. Ephesians 5

[Anonymous]

String by a sparkly pink leash.