Same reason a woman can stay with and sleep with a man when she doesn't love him. On the real, it goes both ways. Love is also a overused overrated word that from what I see is more used as manipulation than to what love is to them. Love uniquely defined per individual. Just because you love one thing does not mean you can't love another. Why can you love all your kids but only one man or woman? If you filet mignon does that mean when you eat a hamburger you now live hamburgers more? The feeling of live doesn't exist. I honestly think its the worst word that we know. Love can hurt someone more than any other word. No other word can create the opposite feeling than what its intended for.
We can't ever love our intimate partners, we are attracted to them. A man can still feel attraction to the woman he goes home too. Because men are attracted more or less physical. A woman is mostly attracted to how a man holds himself as a man. Once she dont see that in him, attraction starts to fade. Even when its gone she still stay with him. But its almost a guarantee to not last even if he changes what caused her to lose attraction. Then one day out of the blue shell end it, with some bullshit excuses. Its not concrete, both sides can behave differently but I think thats the best I can explain the answer..
When women cheat they are usually searching for a better man to replace the one they have this is called monkey branching. Whereas a man its usually just sex with another possibily younger woman was available. If your a guy who's girl was with another guy when she started a relationship with you then your on a road to nowhere.
Monkey Branch
A component of female nature where a female who currently has a significant other establishes a emotional and physical relationship with a male of higher status unbeknownst to her current mate. Then leaving the current mate for the for the new male. Thus resetting the cycle.
Male #1: Wow Im surprised, my girlfriend of 2 years broke up with me and she already is in a new relationship 1 week later with the guy she told me not to worry about?
Male #2: Sorry to tell you bro but she monkey branched. She was already "his girl" long before she ever broke up with you. She ended your relationship once that other guy was ready. She will do the same thing to her new boyfriends once another male of even higher status shows her interest.
I do think that in most cases, if a man cheats, he's looking for sex. But if the woman has to cheat from a man, the woman is looking for an emotional and deeper connection, which is love—in which she didn't feel with her partner, thus making her cheat for love. Women are emotional creatures, while men are sexual. But it's still wrong, and people should just be appreciative of their partner or just have a clean break up before dating other people. Cheating is not love, and there are no excuses for that. 🖤
That's my point.
Respect is #1 in my book. Cheating is disrespectful. No respect, no nothing.
I agree
Great we agree but you did not answer the question asked missy. (testing something)
I didn't leave a link. I was simply saying to myself that this was a test comment and not a real comment. So I would know once I returned. Your comment is still so far left and im not talking about politics when I say that. Now if you said this question assumes... Then I that would have been less far left.
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u I don't believe that statement.
He may still have feelings, but he's an absolute fool. He betrays her, the other woman, and especially himself every time he does, no matter the excuse or rationalization.
Women that foolish also exist, but a majority of female cheaters are definitely not in love. They have no cognitive dissonance about what they're doing. They know it's wrong, and act without shame.
Either way, those who cheat to chase a fantasy act stupidly. Those who cheat with treachery as the goal, are truly dishonorable. Since they used to also spread disease, and were more likely to commit treason at a national level, the ancients had no problem with stoning the latter category to death, regardless of gender, and regardless of how barbaric we consider it today.
Men usually cheat out of lust and/or sexual frustration. Women cheat out of “revenge” and/or sexual frustration as well.
But let’s get real. A man can feel tempted but if he loves/respects his wife he will of the right thing. A woman can be angry at her man but if she loves/respects him she will think twice before doing something stupid.
So know I don’t think men are justified to cheat. If they get caught they have zero excuse. However I often see women trying to gaslight/self justify their bs when they cheat. That behavior pisses me off.
If you think either gender is able to cheat on a person they love, you're delusional. If a person really does love, infidelity just doesn't happen. If you are okay with cheating, you don't love them... If you are okay with doing anything behind their back, that you know would hurt them, you don't care about their feelings, and that simply is not love.
If you really think that a person who is cheating actually loves that person, they are cheating on (or with, for that matter) you are absolutely insane..
Try asking a question that actually makes sense, next time.
I think that the motivations vary between individuals.
I have known women who cared for their men, but on a primal level craved the excitement and variety of being rammed by different cocks.
I have an old friend who takes his wife and her sister dogging, to glory holes and to swingers’ events, so that the women can scratch that itch and he can enjoy watching.
He is not a sterotypical cuckold. He has an impressive collection of medals from Vietnam and a couple of other wars, then he went freelance for a few years.
The women crave the variety and he likes to watch. Everyone appears to be pleased with the arrangement.
That’s a lie. A man truly in love will never cheat on his woman even if he is blackout drunk. I’ve seen men completely drunk being seduced by beautiful girls who can’t stop talking about the love of their life so the girl gets sick of it. A lot of people are so frivolous they won’t understand.
A man is usually simply attracted to the woman and wanted to get a piece of her.. But his emotions are still with his SO.. And he never wants to let that go.. He'll have sex with another woman but won't get attached.. Whereas with women it takes greater attachment to even want sex.. They already emotionally cheated by then, so they went for where their emotions finally lead them.. Down the path riding the shaft..
Oof, that's a statement with a lot of complexities. I think it has to do with how men and women view relationships. Women give sex in exchange for committment and resources while men give committment and resources in exchange for sex. When a woman cheats and gives sex to another man, she's saying she wants the other guy's committment and resources. But if a man cheats, he can still provide resources to his wife/girlfriend while the woman he cheats with gets nothing. It's when he starts directing his resources to other women that a woman should worry about her man falling out of love.
Love does not consist of cheating. So, i disagree with this statement. Women started to have more casual sex than before, so i think women can have sex with someone they do not know even they ‘’love’’ 🤔 their mate too. If you define this love….
I disagree. I think there is no possible way you could know your answer is correct.
A man like that doesn’t know what love is. It’s a relationship of convenience.
Or men and women are just different when it comes to matters of sexuality.
For women, it usually takes a lot to get them to have sex with someone. There's not literally more foreplay involved, but she has to trust you, have emotional bonds with you, etc.
She really does have to invest a good bit in you before having sex and even after that women physically require more foreplay. They can't just go into it cold turkey
For men, sex is just that...
Sex
Emotions and sex do not necessarily go hand in hand for men
Yes. You would see it that way. Untrue though. Not that way for all men.
No, not all men.
But you do understand what it means by "generally speaking" correct?
"Generally speaking, men in the US are taller than women in the US."
But not all men
Oh I understand. But you often speak of all men as if of a single thought. You are an individual.
I speak in general terms based on the knowledge I have on a subject.
Not what I’ve seen. But you be you.
Where do you live? Do you not interact with normal people? Or are you just arguing with me just to argue? I can't believe people like this exist
@dustybiker It's like that for the overwhelming majority of men. Sex is no different than taking a piss, you dont care what urinal you use as long as you get to relieve yourself.
@Vegasrunner I don't think they can get what sex is for men. I use to watch porn of women I wasn't even attracted to sometimes. That's how stupid the male sexuality is wired. Most of the woman commenters (haven't read the males) are trying to link respect and love. My siblings and I disrespect each other all the time but we love each other.
@242plusInfinity Do you believe it's an issue or they simply dont care? I've always held the belief that sense men typically approach women, they dont really need to understand the male sexual strategy.
Women cheat in their hearts I think more than men. Even while they're still with the man. But it does seem to be that men cheat largely out of sexual opportunity with another woman - which is definitely still bad, even though they'll still care about the woman they're actually with. I think the fact that a woman can cheat in her heart while still being with the man says she doesn't really love him.
m "I cheated on you but I love you"
the nerve... lmao
even when cheating you would think a man is still not at fault but a woman might be the worse... for it? lol...
If you read these pieces, you will understand that men and women cheat for different reasons based on their biological and evolutionary differences.
If I may, men can detach sex from emotions. A man can have sex with a woman that he doesn't love, likewise he can have sex behind a woman's back that he still indeed loves.
Women are different. Women cannot do easily separate sex and emotions. To women, these go together and a woman cannot usually have sex with a man she hasn't at least invested emotionally into. It takes more time, bonding, emotion, and connection for a woman to have sex with a man.
Men can have sex with whomever and whenever basically.
so let me ask you this...
do you really think a man is justified to cheat on women... and there is nothing really wrong when a man cheats on a woman, because his love for that woman is still complete and truly and also a good in love in all the sense of that word?
because men are able to put love aside, while they basically fuck another girl...
is this correct?
or, do you still think that mean who cheat are wrong to cheat?
Men who cheat are wrong.
Women who cheat are wrong.
okay...
and we just agreed on two things... at the same time, same day
that can't be a good sign
the zombie apocalypse might as well start just now
Now, if only you will finally agree to some simple & basic biological facts.
we are not simple and basic biologic organisms... not at all
In many ways we are, in many ways we are not.
I'm just saying, men and women are different and that is not a bad thing at all.
Sometimes that difference is deeply biological.
not in this case...
if you cheat on someone, you do not love that someone...
as simple as that
It is 1000% not as simple as that. The literature I provided for you says otherwise and I'm sure near everyone will say that there is more to this than what you simplistically think.
"literature" lmao...
you are actually making it simplistic from the get go
"simple, men can cheat and still have their love for you intact"
"but it a woman cheats on you is because she completely destroyed the love she had for you"
that's just two big piles of bullshit, Jurassic Park sized too
Well, that's exactly what someone would say who did not read the pieces.
Men and women are different biologically
This is a simple fact.
When it comes to cheating, men and women's reasons are different, as well as their opinions on their relationships, their mindsets, etc.
bull... if you cheat on someone, that's not love
it will be many things, but not love
Oh, you are right, you don't cheat on someone because you love them, but you can cheat on someone and still love them.
Do you see the difference in that wording and how it makes all the difference?
unless... you're a woman? right?
if you are a woman you cannot love and be a cheater at the same time because
biology...
I mean, you van always find women and men that do not fit the rule, but that doesn't mean the rule is invalid.
Can you find a woman who will cheat that still loves her husband? Yes
Can you find a man that will cheat that has zero feelings for his wife? Yes
Despite this, biological observations, patterns, and reasoning can still be made.
that's the stupidest thing I've heard today... lol
oh wait, it's past midnight... so the day just started
Even after linking you sources you still don't believe in this biology. I'm 100% convinced no amount of evidence I present to you will make you believe
Or you do you believe but there's some denial there for some reason
you just don't understand science... or "how science works"
you're just like a four year old reading about magic, you know how to read... you understand some things, but you don't really have a good grip on reality yet, nor the critical thinking necessary to really understand concepts either...
it is pointless...
There's no point in arguing with you.
You just don't like me
Ever since meeting on this site you've had this dislike for me even upon barely talking me
I've noticed anything I write is met by automatic disagreemt with you even when links and sources are provided
Nothing will help, so do not comment on future posts of mine as they will only be deleted. If you want to talk over PM about what exactly about me you have an issue with I'm happy to settle it there.
I've tried talking peacefully with you bro lol
Nothing works
Links, kind and polite talk, etc.
pm me for further discussion if you want
Absolutely astounding the way you're talking to me right now.
If you're a cheat, I don't think you are even capable of love... It doesn't matter if you are a man or woman. You're doing things for your own selfish reasons and don't give a fuck about other people.
I dont think the gender matters. I think it matters whose seeking physical pleasure vs an emotional connection. The person who is seeking emotional comfort from someone else is usually no longer in love
I think the idea behind it, is that men can detach emotion from sex unlike women, which I think links in with the term pump and dump.
I'm not saying I agree with it, before anyone replies to me all angry. 😂
u You can’t cheat on someone you’re in love with. So no. I think in both cases, man or woman, they don’t love their spouse if they cheat. If you loved someone you wouldn’t hurt them.
I think cheating is a betrayal of love and honor and cheaters lie to themselves if. They say they can still love their partnets when they cheat. They are simply amoral and low class.
there are men who are happily married with kids and see sex workers regularly. They believe they still love their wife's they just want variety. I found this on an interview with a sex worker and apparently it's common. These men claim they still love their wives.
I think it’s true. When I felt like lonely before I did cheat. But I think guys cheat is more about sex
... and still love her? WTF does that mean? Lying is not loving.
if you cheat your partner you dont love the other person
now define love, ill wait
Love is not logical. That's why your answer is wrong. Desire is also not logical. That's why people do dumb stuff out of emotions. Even if you throwaway what I just said, there is no way you can confirm that some male cheaters don't indeed love their wives or woman.
@242plusInfinity my answer is not wrong. in order to claim that someone loves someone that would depend on how you define love. if you define love as a feeling that would never make a person cheat on their partner that the statment in q is not possible. In my dfinition of love, when you partner cheats on you its a clear sign they dont love you, no matter they might have "feelings" for you. If you cheat on someone that is not love.
We can also look at it from the perspective that men prefer to keep women as options and have unfinished business while women are more likely to resolve relationships one by one cause they process their emotions faster, cause they face them; while men dont face their emotions and it hits them later
That's good and all and I think you should remain unique in your thinking but
Love is a state of mind. That's it. It's feeling in your heart. It's an emotional state.
If you had said that their love was not strong enough to prevent them from indulging in their love of sex... I would jump to your side because that is how the human mind works. The real problem is rarely on the surface. It is rarely obvious.
Regardless of what we say you cannot know the truth. You cannot go into the body of all cheaters and say, "yup yup I was right" lol. I wouldn't be shocked if you also believed you can't love 2 people at the same time. Because that would be like saying you cannot have two habits at the same time.
@242plusInfinity point is noone can objectively define what is love and therefore statement like that one in question cannot be fact
mentality differences. women bring forth the offspring, men spread their seed around. It's sperm and embryo fundamentals.
If you cheat you don't love her or him. Gender doesn't come into it.
Cheating means no respect, there is no love without respect. This isn't complicated.
That's just not true. You're assuming based on your own beliefs and notions.
Because men think with their cock and women with their heart? So the guy will use that fact to be forgiven but a woman will want something different.
Research indicates that men and women cheat for very different reasons, which is in turn reflective of their mental states when doing so. Men cheat for sex, and women cheat for intimacy and sex.
It's easier for men to separate sex from love. It's harder for women to do the same.
It's bullshit. Anyone who cheats on their partner, man or woman don't really love them nor respect them as much they claim. Anyone trying to say otherwise is full of it.
It's disrespectful regardless no matter
But women and men cheat for different reasons
A paper surveyed men who have cheated and the men overwhelming reported being in happy marriages or relationships
Contrast this women.
That's a contradiction. If your happy in your marriage/relationship, then you wouldn't need to go outside of it. It's people lying to themselves so they don't feel bad about betraying their partner. That's like saying you like peanut butter but everytime you taste it you express how you can't stand the flavor. Obviously you don't like peanut butter.
For men, sex is just sex
Obviously you are a woman and thinking with a woman's brain so you cannot imagine having sex with someone just to have sex
News flash: There are women who have emotionless hookups, one night stand. Just cause I don't agree with it doesn't make it a woman's brain thing.
There are women like that yeah
I'm talking generally speaking
The average woman
I don’t understand how u can deliberately cheat on someone and say that you love them it weird lol
Well it is the nature of men. they wanting to put their sperms into as many woman as possible.. But womans they just wanting a man to protect them, feeding them. and having a baby from him thats the instinct coming from thousands of years ago
I don't want to cheat. So finding a submissive who is willing to share is a priority.
I don't believe that I believe if you chest you dont care about them if you've guy or girl
That's not true. If you love a woman, you won't even consider cheating on her.
Same with if a man has sex with a woman if he really liked her he wouldn't had lost interest.
cocks have no feeling they just there to put the seed in.
women have sex with men the respect, they could still love u or like u but if they don’t respect you as a man they don’t want to fuck you.
They are both cheating each other, no sincere and loyal, so no love
Guys do the action girls emotional cheat
i disagree with that statement
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