What you're describing is a woman who is taking things too much to the extreme. Yes, a decent guy is going to want you to treat your friends well, and morally. To support them (reasonably) in a time of need. That's what a good friend does. But when you say "choosing them even over men", that to me sounds like extremism. If your friend was wrong, and the guy was right, you should not support your friend over the guy. That's not being a good friend nor is it moral - it's either selfish or it's extreme feminism, and either one is unattractive to men.
Most men (not all, certainly - there are assholes out there) treat people individually, and try to look at the whole picture before making a judgement. If our guy friend tells us a sad story, we don't just accept what he said at face value - we asked pointed questions: "did you ask her first?" "did she tell you previously?" "what happened when you?" And at least 1/3 of the time, we end up getting the whole truth, or at least a lot more of it, and we call our friend out on his crap. Not because we're trying to be mean or pile on, but so he can LEARN and not repeat his mistake. And, yeah, it's hard - for him and for us - but that's what's best in the long term.
Most women would prefer to gas up their girlfriends and lie to them and overlook their BS and take everything she says at face value - "believe all women" - and so instead of getting called on their behavior when they are wrong, their bad behavior gets reinforced, and they become jaded and entitled. That's a HUGE turn-off to men.
Having morals means you apply EVERYONE to the same standards of behavior and principles. That is what most men are looking for, and it's what most of us try to be ourselves. That's not to say that we always accomplish it - we're humans, and we fail at times - but it's at least our goal. It's also what we want in a woman if we're going to be in a serious relationship with her.
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Serious men like a gracious woman with the old values that are genuinely attractive to his superiors and their wives/husbands. These kind of women are also the one that all the other girls talk too behind the scenes as she’s not concerned with being noticed.
Often she’s the quiet leader, loyal to her husband, and admired for NOT being sooo pretentious and plastic (surgery and heart) like the other Board and Executive VP wives.
If the GRLs really need something accomplished personally or “no hidden agenda” opinion THEY come to her.
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Yes: helping them, being reliable, being loyal
No: standing up for her friends, choosing them even over men
Hmm yeah I want the get with the busy body who interferes in others business to "stand up" for them... generally this is not asked for and so it's a bad thing if I have to choose it as bad or good. I lean bad.
And I'm a man, your supposed to be with your relationship over your friends. So why would I get with a girl who going to pick girls night (which is never just girls) over me?
10 married women were working in a office. One of then got a divorce and in a years time, all 10 of them were divorced. One woman will tell the rest how free she is and it will move like a cancer through the whole office. Two things women need to know. One, men will always go for a younger woman below 30 if Possible. Two, men are avoiding single mothers. Dating single mothers is like paying for the neighbors home, no return on his investment.
friends or lack thereof aren't really factors to be considered. she could be a villager from Vietnam living in isolated farmlands but has good core values, most men would still consider her.
That depends entirely on the situation. There are a lot of women who are incredibly loyal to the worst of people.
Well I personally don't care if my girlfriend or I'd rather if I had a girlfriend I wouldn't care if she was good at making friends what matters the most is if I can be her lover and friend
I don't think it's a bad trait.
Some are. some aren't
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