Really depends.
I think women do early on, but that could be debated. With traditional roles, women have the upper hand in acceptance or rejection, and have a leg up in being able to attract attention passively (something I'm totally jealous of, NGL). But men in this case have selection power, which can leave some women to feel powerless and "waiting to be selected".
To put it another way, she might be able to get male attention without having to actively seek it out, but most of them will be options she doesn't want. Guys get to basically take no action on girls they don't want, and go in already knowing they're at least attracted to her.
But I think men have fewer forms of emotional support, making them more dependent on relationships to get this support. Something I've seen taken advantage of. I feel like women assume we get the same support they do and take that sort of thing for granted sometimes when judging men's emotional issues.
And then there's the empathy gap. People are more sensitive to her insecurities or concerns and hold them with greater legitimacy. Men's insecurities or concerns are considered "incompetencies" and "failures". So we get the whole "woman is always right" and "happy wife, happy life", making many relationships more gynocentric.
But for several women I've known, it felt like he had all the power of direction. Essentially saying that she felt like a sidekick in HIS story.
Understanding these things should be less about claiming power and more about being aware of when the ball is in your court in order to handle it with care.21 Reply
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Nope. Women don't propose, men do. Women don't pay the bills, men do. Women aren't the protectors, men are.
Power comes from responsibility. The party with the most responsibility over the other should be the one in power. If I'm supposed to risk my life to save you, you should listen to what I have to say and not get yourself in danger. If you want my commitment you need to earn it.
If you give up your power as a man, you become worthless. The whole "independent woman" epidemic happened because men didn't prevent it from happening, and now they are more lonely than ever.
One last thing. Power cannot be forced, it's given. A woman should submit to her man and if she doesn't, you cannot force her to. However, what you can do is leave that relationship and never turn around. You don't want someone that expects you to do everything but doesn't want to do the bare minimum.
In conclusion: men have the power in relationships unless they give it away.
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Your conclusion is wrong. Men have little power in relationships.
-Men get on their knees begging women to be with them. This comes off like a slave.
Men have to take on the burden on being providers, protectors, being her emotional rock. All the while wives in todays world don't have to oblige by any of that and if you don't fulfill your end of the bargain she will next you and find another man. Women break up from men far more than the other way around. The party who is less interested often holds more power in the relationship and sadly that is women.
Even the laws in society are all geared towards protecting and aiding women. Women gets hit by her boyfriend/husband in public and an army of thirsty males are ready to come forth to beat you up and try to win her from you.
Women end up single mother. Daddy government will tax men to bail her out.
Women end up homeless. Shelters are in place.
All female medical related problems take first priority and gets tons more money invested in them than men.
Family court rewards women with children far more than they do men and often men have very little choice on whether they want to keep their unborn child or not.
Men are slaves and second class citizens in society. You wouldn't exactly call the slave who works his ass off in the field picking sugar cane to be in power compared to the master sitting on the porch watching them. - +1 y
@Lookingforthetruth Your statement doesn't contradict any of what I said.
Women have power ONLY if men allow it. Your beef has to be with simps and male feminists who uphold those laws. If you get those in order, the women will fall in line.
I'm sick and tired of pussified manlets who don't vet women properly complaining about a woman they KNEW wasn't good for them because they thought she was hot. You have to put values before everything, and enforce your boundaries. If you don't command respect, you won't get it. If you don't know how to lead with example, nobody is gonna follow you. Even a feminine woman can smell a man who is weak.
Now, as far as modern women are concerned, I don't deal with them. I don't look at them, I don't talk to them and most definitely I'm not trying to date one. I go by a strict criteria that other guys may find "controlling" but that's only because most of them are sheep. You have to free your mind from this misconception that you have no power. There's always something you can do. If it's not working for you then get a passport and travel. I hate helpless and defeated men just as much as I hate feminists.
Get the simps in line first, they are the problem.
+1 yNope. It's not dependent on gender. Never was.
It depends on who one pair of the union feels about the other. I read a long time ago that the person who has "more" of the power is the person who feels LESS for the other person unfortunately, or who isn't as DESPERATE for a relationship or family, etc!.. That can be a man (if he's desperate to be married with kids by a certain age because his family is pressuring him subconsciously), or it can be the woman (with the same background story!).
Basically, whoever is more desparate to get the thing in the relationship (baby, marriage, love, sex, financial stability, etc.) and whoever has the ability (potential ability) to provide it, WILL HAVE THE POWER!
Think of it simply like a buyer or seller's market.
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+1 yI believe both women and men should have power in the relationship. If one has all the power and another has no power, there is a higher chance of abuse because human beings have flaws and are capable of change when an opportunity to act badly comes on the scene.
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4.5K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Women dominating the dynamic on the front end is exactly the opposite of my findings. I have never found a female that does not like to chase intellect. In process thinking they are examine the guys mind etc. I’m not talking Knowledge but I am talking traceable mystery of thought confirmed by follow-up inquiry or straight-up disagreement the next day. It’s a Test and an intelligent man who can accept opinion and embrace growth from another is never going to encounter a desert. Being able, IN PERSON, to peek into a man’s mind is most intoxicating and important determinant in “being selected”…. not dick size 🙄
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+1 yFor most men today YES lol
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+1 yRelationships are give and take.
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except men usually give everything away to their wives over time and become a shell of their former selves.
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@Lookingforthetruth sometimes yes. You obviously have to find a good woman. Not someone who walks all over you or divorced
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+1 yIn the early stages absolutely. There is a power dynamic where most men are expected to approach, take risks, plan, have self control, spend money/resources, endure and pass shit tests, etc.
Women are under more pressure to look good in some ways. They know that staying in shape, dressing well and looking their best (e. g. makeup, hair, etc) can improve their chances of getting attention of desirable.
But when all else is equal the woman almost always has more options vs. the man. She might have to deal with unwanted attention from the wrong men but she STILL has options.
That’s not ever going to change either. Despite the so called equal and “modern” world I don’t see most women wanting to give that advantage up nor even acknowledging it.
Anyway I know that bitching and moaning about that unfairness isn’t going to ever solve anything. Men don’t get merit or respect for playing victims in society especially when it comes to dating.
However I just have one simple wish/request from more females. Please just take a step back and realize what advantage you have here. It’s okay if you reject guys but please don’t ever do the following if the guy was respectful:
- Be rude to the guy
- Mock or laugh at him
- Ghost him thinking that’s an effective way to give him a “hint”.
- String him along with friéndzone bullshit because he’s nice and you like the attention.Just politely tell him you appreciate his efforts but you are not interested. It shows that you respect the position he is in. When men feel respected they will handle rejection much better 95% of the time. Men desire respect even more than they desire sex/intimacy.
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@rjd_20006 I just don’t understand why that is so fucking hard for most women to comprehend. I’ve been in the reverse position a few times in my life. But no matter what the girl looked like and/or her social status was I was empathetic to the notion she has needs and dreams when it came to intimacy, love and sex. I was respectful and gentle when I rejected them despite it being uncomfortable.
But unacceptably high percentage of women abuse their privilege here. Reason being men are expendable.
3.6K opinions shared on Relationships topic. They often do, but that's the fault of the man, for not taking clear leadership from Day 1 and maintaining it throughout the many shit-tests that a woman will throw at him. Most women WANT to be lead by a strong, COMPETENT man, but she will test him constantly, especially during the first 6 months of the relationship, and any signs of weakness, incompetence, or lack of confidence will make her assert herself, even though she really doesn't want to and further failures will see her take more control until she is eventually running the relationship - which will make her unhappy and cause her to lose respect for the man. Nothing good comes from that, and yet it's all too common today.
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Being a leader and taking charge absolutely doesn't mean that you can't also be caring and attentive - but not everyone understands that. Some people equate being strong and leading with being mean or dictatorial, but that's not how it should be at all.
Leadership is something that you earn every day by being competent and by looking out for those following you. A penis doesn't automatically bestow leadership - it must still be earned.
Personally so far in my life my most successful relationship has been with my current girlfriend where we both are achievers and play off each other positively in supporting each others goals. Having control or power in a relationship isn’t healthy in my opinion because it can easily be abused. What if you were married and you were a stay at home spouse. If one day they felt differently and left then you don’t have that experience and support you need. I just think that while my life has been short so far that I found this girl and now that our parents threw us out we need to be in this together instead of just one person bearing the charge.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yIf married, the woman has 100% power.
If not married, I think women have most of the power. They know they can get away with acting shitty way more than men because society sympatizes with women more and holds them much less accountable. Also, she knows she can get away with being violent while her man cannot so they often push men's boundaries. There is also a culture of weak useless submissive husband wrapped around the woman's finger and accepting disrepect and cheating. We can see it in advertizing, TV shows, movies, etc.
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+1 yFor younger couples, absolutely. Young guys are driven by sex and women control sex. So women control the relationship as long as the guy is still controlled by his cock. However, when you get up in years like me, and sex is just not a big deal anymore, then they do not.
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+1 yIf the cops get called because she cheated and stole money to buy another man a car... guess who is going to spend a night or two in jail while she spends the night in his house that he bought in his name and with his money... and with the other man. Go on... guess.
Yeah the power dynamics sort of have a thumb on the scale if the 'system' gets involved.
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+1 yDepends on the couple. A lot of my friends are in relationships where the woman are the head of the household (while making the same as their husbands or less, since a few of them are housewives).
I've also noticed a plenty of women on line who prefer to have the man take the lead of the relationship, so it depends. Sometimes it's closer to equal too
00 ReplyIf she files a domestic violence case against you then you go to prison before they can get you a lawyer. It would take minutes and a hefty dose of drama but it's going to be fast and there is no justice. She could lie about it and get away free while you will be fighting for your life.
You can't sue her back either.
90% of all divorces started by women with a college degree. The women dictate if you are allowed to be a human or not.
00 Reply2K opinions shared on Relationships topic. A person in a relationship only has as much power as the other person allows them to have.
40 Replyno… no, I don’t think I would say that. Women only have the power in relationships that men give them, right up until marriage or living together.
Even when women can destroy men’s reputations, steal their money, etc, during break ups; you can avoid most of those headaches by having other women stand up for you. Women are other women’s cryptonite
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yYesssssss because most women are so possessive and controlling over their partner/s that it's incredibly insecure and not endearing at all.
Relationships are meant to be a mutual partnership however it's such a shame that women don't see it that way!
Women don't like me because I'm headstrong as I don't allow them to behave this way with me.
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+1 yIn other than platonic friendships, if she's at all, insightful... and Machievellian. Hell yes!
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+1 yGenerally, no. Every relationship is different though. Having someone dependent on you finically or physically automatically creates a power imbalance
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+1 yI think that goes both ways. Some men are controlling, and some women have the power. I have the power in our relationship. Men use force, and women use sex.
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+1 yEvery woman regardless of age, location, looks or experience only has as much power over you as you give her...
Most men are too busy being desperate and scarcity minded to realize this.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yThey do and to some degree they always did. They can use the state as a weapon more effectively than men can and abuse done by them was always seen as justified by society (especially after the Duluth Model came to be) if it is even recognized at all.
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+1 yOnly as much as a man lets them get away with.
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+1 yNo, not really. While we control the access to sex, men control the access to relationships! Sad but true.
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Could you expand on that? I know a few women who propose, ask the man to be their boyfriend, etc.
Relationships technically are not one sided or it’s not really a relationship. - +1 y
@snowboarder720 I wrote ACCESS to the relationship, not actually living withinin the relationship once it has begun. Face it, most young women want to be in an exclusive relationship, whereas most young men want to play the field. OBVIOUSLY there are exceptions to the rule, but when answering generalized questions, one must answer GENERALLY and deal with the rule not the exception. And generally speaking, women control when the relationship becomes sexual, and men (generally speaking) control when the relationship becomes exclusive/ an engagement, etc..
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Ah I see what you mean. Generally speaking where do you understand your source. As a guy I’ve never really dated guys.
Just like how girls put down on each other for having sec too early, guys put down on each other for committing too early. It’s stereotypes but boys put down each other for committing to one girl because then he’s ‘soft’ and he’s suddenly ‘the nice guy’. It’s not justification but an explanation. - +1 y
But really relationships are about keeping each other happy. If a guy wants sex in the relationship then he should deserve sex. If a girl wants guys to commit then she deserves commitment.
All relationships deserve a happy ending but they shouldn’t last because of lack of compatibility. - +1 y
@Asad1ONE1 You are out of your mind. First you CLEARLY don’t know me, because I’ve done nothing but build up men, advocate for more fair treatment of men in western divorce courts, re: Child support, visitation, and custody. I point out that the worlds most dangerous jobs are done by men (which is why more than 90% workplace fatalities are men). Source: Bureau of labor statistics.
You on the other hand write things like this (and in the last on PROVE that you actually agree with me!
33 years old and never had a girlfriend, is that ok? ↗
* Good thing you're in minority, slut!
And
Why DO women love attention so much? ↗
* Nah you're triggered by the question. Just admit that women love attention because they are obsessed with male validation.
And my absolute favorite of all because YOU claimed the EXACT same thing as I did when YOU wrote:
* That's right you heard me. Men hold all the cards in the dating/relationship
Guys, Stop Ruining Your Chances with Women With Your Mindset ↗ - +1 y
@Asad1one1 But I’m not going to stoop to your level and call you a misogynist, because people can judge that for themselves when they read your own words. (When you click on a link, press CTRL-F on windows, or CMD/apple - F on IOS devices, and in the “find box” type Asad1one1, to find his exact posts, quickly w/o needing to search the entire page” I DO believe that you are a rank hypocrite of the worst kind, especially for writing the EXACT same thing that I wrote, then having the balls to call me a misandrist for merely writing what YOU did…
By the way, how precisely do I “Hate men” by pointing out that while women may control access to sex, men control access to exclusive relationships (in general)? Especially when you yourself wrote the SAME thing? - +1 y
@snowboarder720 Yes, that is all I meant. I was writing about generalizations, because there Will ALWAYS be exceptions to the rule. I’m sure most people know a couple where the woman asked the man to marry him. But in GENERAL, that is simply not the case.
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@snowboarder720 I could not agree more! I think this is a very astute answer. Once within an exclusive relationship/marriage etc… then there MUST be a give and take, by both partners, and BOTH partners must treat the other with kindness, dignity, and respect. Along with a healthy dose of equality! I’m very heartened to see that you understood the nuance between BEFORE a relationship becomes exclusive, and after it does. Thank you SO much for you well thought out answer. I am saddened that I must not have been as clear as I could have been when writing my initial post. I will endeavor to be more precise in the future, but if you understood it, I believe that any intelligent thinking person could also have understood it, as long as their motives were pure. Kudos 🤗
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Oh you’re fine! I didn’t mean to have the wrong tone with my response. Have a safe weekend!
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Just as many men (if not as many women) control the sexual AND romantic relationship.
A older (and even many younger) woman not ever having been in a relationship is a red flag for many guys.
Women desire attention from men because they desire men so much, and vice versa.
Countless women have ruined chances with men because of their mindset (aka FEMCELS). - +1 y
@snowboarder720 Thanks sweetie, you too 💋
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@Asad1ONE1 They are YOUR posts you hypocrite! YOU wrote the exact same words as me, then call me a man hater! Remember? “That's right you heard me. Men hold all the cards in the dating/relationship”
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@snowboarder720 Regarding your statement “ But really relationships are about keeping each other happy. If a guy wants sex in the relationship then he should deserve sex. If a girl wants guys to commit then she deserves commitment”. I agree, but by your own words that is within a relationship. I was only referring to people dating who are not yet in a committed relationship.
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@Asad1ONE1 Ahhh the personal attack! As Mark Twain so beautifully wrote “In any debate, personal attacks are the first tool of the looser!”
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@Asad1ONE1 That username is a nickname I was given by my friends in middle school (8th grade) when I broke-up with the cutest boy in school. He was a sadistic asshole, who took pleasure in beating up smaller weaker kids. I told. Him if he ever did anything like that again, I would never speak to him again. The very next day I found out that he beat another small boy, so I broke up with him. When my friends found out at lunch period, one of them, who happened to be African American, said “you broke-up with that beautiful white boy? You crazy girl, crazy! I don’t even wanna look at you right now” and she got up and walked away talking loudly to herself, saying “can’t believe that crazy girl, she just crazy”, then when she was about 50ft from us she turned and yelled “YOU CRAZY GIRL, YOU KNOW THAT?” Then. Another friend looked at me and said, “Oh, that is SO your new nickname!” And to this day my very best and closest friends, still call me “CG” (the initials for Crazy Girl).
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@Asad1one1 There is a HUGE difference in contextual usage between using it to say “hey Crazy Girl, how was your weekend” and using it as an ad hominem the way you did!
2.6K opinions shared on Relationships topic. No, we're more like a team working together. Then again, I went for a great guy, not someone who'd do anything no question asked.
20 ReplyIn relationships, there is every possible combination, from women (or men) having no power to having all the power.
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+1 yDepends on the couple and even the relationship itself. I hardly felt in control in my previous relationships.
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+1 yYes due to the fact that men need women more than women need men there will be a power disbalance in the relationships in favor if the women. Because of that God wants the man to be the leader in the marriage as a equilibrator.
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+1 ythe man is the head in the relationship but the neck is the woman
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Anonymous(18-24)+1 yYes. Men are generally big softies. It's easy to get them to do what you want by being submissive and sexy. You put the idea in their head and let them think they made the decision.
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+1 yfor sure, bible even says "man submits unto woman".
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+1 yIf you are in a relationship... and you don't have at some level power over your partner... something is wrong. That goes for both sides involved.
10 ReplyHistorically, no. But both partners should take the lead at times
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Historically, men were the head of the house.
+1 yIn a healthy relationship the power dynamic should be 50/50.
00 ReplyIt depends on the personality of the man or woman. Nice guy's like me sometime gets walk on by girls. I became stronger with time and able to stand my ground but its really depends on the relationship and the love.
00 ReplyWomen control the first step: acceptance, but us guys decides the determination of going further.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yAbsolutely. And thank the simps for that. Keep buying strangers free drinks, and then wonder why they laugh at you.
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Why are women with kids going out to drink. And why are they acceping free drinks.
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The girls laughing at the guys. One of them was my sister with a kid, going out to get drunk and hookup.
Opinion Owner+1 y@RandomGuy1030
Give me her phone number and I'll call and ask her about that.- +1 y
ITS SO COMMON ARE YOU KIDDING ME
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I believe you. I just want to call her and ask her why she does it. We're on the same page.
Yeah if your pretty, then you could get guys to pay for you, ofcourse I don’t do that
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+1 yProbably in general, but that is only because so many guys worship the V.
10 Reply It may seem that way when it comes to romantic interactions, but there is no "power". One does what they want because of the other.
00 ReplyThey can although a lot of women are submissive
00 Reply2.4K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Well obviously, she can just go get a new guy so she always has that hanging over his head.
00 Reply312 opinions shared on Relationships topic. a lot of men won't admit it but yes a lot of women do have the power in the relationship. That's why masculinity is important
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+1 yOver a punk and pussy man, yes. Definitely not over me though.
00 Reply Yes madam, I will eat your pussy first before you give me a hand job
00 ReplyCan't answer that but in a divorce they certainly do
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+1 yIn some ways, absolutely. Power knows no gender.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yNot exactly. But in marriage for sure! The most during divorce.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yDepends on the couple 🤷♀️ Ideally it should be balanced, though not quite the same.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yMany times guys have the power in the relationships because women usually date up.
00 ReplyNo. The relationship should be 50/50.
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Where is your other 50% going towards then? lol
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Well, if its 50/50 both people aren't giving 100% to the relationship.
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Exactly. But you women can say, "honey, if you do this ill give you (fill in blank). Then we usually do it.
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That's why you women have power. Its called the pu**y. We men always want to be in one... lol. We love the feel of it... lmao
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@Mansearching men could do the same thing but y’all just don’t 🤭 My boyfriend will pull it on me sometimes. For example, some of us really wanna put mascara on our bfs cuz it is unfair how 🔥 those lashes are. We’ll cave for the right price 😂
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Y’all just gotta be a bit more creative. What do you usually tell your gfs no to 😂
1.5K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Most certainly
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+1 yNo, I would not say that.
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+1 yOnly the weak ones
00 Reply390 opinions shared on Relationships topic. They are the gate keepers all throughout history.
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+1 yI'm certain aspects she does but not at everything
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+1 yNot in relationships, only in marriage.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yNot in my relationship, lol
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+1 y50/50
21 Reply3K opinions shared on Relationships topic. In some relationships yes in others no
00 Reply6.7K opinions shared on Relationships topic. No, I wouldn't.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yIf she is rich
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+1 yOh yeah.
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