I've never had a relationship or have been kissed. I've gotten told im a loser
319 opinions shared on Relationships topic. Oh my god- like no. Never 😂
Serious relationships today would require efforts by *both parties*
and random ones would require the effort of a girl at least flirting or mostly making sure she demonstrated/ highlighted all her right-proportioning assets. 💃
A girl who is just herself- confident in that, and focused on her own goals, would have lower chances of being approached, than the others mentioned before.
If she were approached, it’d be by an observant guy who found her irresistible, or a “f-boi,” who didn’t mind the challenges and work of convincing her.
Especially, getting older and in general public places, guys won’t make many moves, but just resort to admiring. Visually.
Maybe some will try a simple interaction to see how approachable/ friendly you are.
From there, if they’re received with warm smiles or the touch-barrier being broken, they may try for some number 📱, or so.
Guys near your age won’t be as confident.
They don’t know themselves yet, so the confidence you tend to see… is really the guys with the high testosterone and running on levels of ego. Those have higher chances of being “dtf.”
Some guys are smart, have good families or mentors, and teams; they understand respect and they respect themselves, and when they do so, they also know who they are.
Thats true confidence, and it’s also a rarity. ☝️
Don’t judge your own worth by the way other people function…
it’s not your fault, a LOT of people don’t “have it all together.”
That’s why “messed up, mature people” try to make it work.
“Messed up, immature people” trip up, and fake it, and are the ones to say that OTHER people are messed up…
So I think now we have an idea of the type of people those “so and so’s” were, who said that to you…
could be their poor quality and lousy excuse of trying to flirt, by making you mad possibly, as well. If female, jealousy or projected insecurities.
I wouldn’t sweat over it..
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+1 yNope. It depends on how you feel. When I was 17 I was also still a virgin and my first "kiss" wasn't until 25.
If you want to give in to the media and social pressure, then go ahead. But I'd be stronger and say to myself that's MY business, not THEIRS! You don't HAVE to divulge them your sex life. That can be a personal thing! Only tell it to whom you feel comfortable with disclosing and preferably who you are in a relationship with. If the person you are dealing with is a MATURED person (though good luck with that as more and more PREFER to be the other way sadly), then you'll be okay!
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Thanks for the MHO ❤
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you're welcome! the girl who tells me this has been in a relationship for like a year and a half and has always given me some type of problem
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3.6K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Not quite at your age. Lol.
But, assuming your listed age is true, there's things that you should know that no one is likely to teach you, and in fact, you are likely to be taught the opposite, because there are people who have agendas that are working against YOUR best interests, and if they can convince you that THEY are right, you will do what they want you to do voluntarily, and it will be too late for you by the time you figure out that you were lied to.
Here is the truth: being in a good, healthy, supportive relationship and having children together is the single best thing you can do with your life, and is the thing that is MOST likely to bring you true long-term happiness. It may be hard to imagine right now, but when you are 50 , if you have no family of your own, you will very likely be profoundly lonely and low-level frightened. If you get injured or sick, you will have no one to look out for you and protect you, and will be at the mercy the government, and you may not realize this yet, but governments are exceptionally bad at caring for their citizens on an individual level.
You also need to know that your value on the relationship marketplace (which is not the same as your value as a human being - don't get that confused) is incredibly high between the ages of 18-28, peaking at about 22/23, meaning that's the age when you will be able to attract the highest value man that will ever be available to you. If you are smart, you will pick a man based on his morals, values, and life goals, and not because he's hot or exciting, and you will marry him and start a family. After age 23, you are on the downslope of your relationship value - though still high for a few more years - and the longer you wait, the lower the value of the best men that you will be able to get to commit to. (Do NOT confuse sexual attraction with commitment - tons of men will be sexually attracted to you but will have no desire to commit to you - those guys have nothing to offer you long-term).
The world, and your friends, will encourage you to go to college or sleep around and put off serious relationships until your 30s, but by then, your relationship value will be below that of men for the first time in your life - and for the rest of your life. That doesn't mean you can't find a man, but it means that you will only have average men (at best) available to you at that point. If your relationship value was money, it would be like you were a multimillionaire at 22, but making minimum wage at 30. You can still live, but the quality of your life will be FAR lower.
Remember that while you value status and career/earnings potential in a man, men value youth, purity, femininity, and nurturing in a potential wife. A degree, a career, or a high income is irrelevant to a man looking for a wife - those things don't increase your relationship value to men. You have what men value already - the only question if if you'll use your value wisely while it has the greatest potential to make the rest of your life as good as it can be. Most women you know won't do that, and will encourage you not to either, because misery loves company.04 Reply- +1 y
The problem with your "advice" is that, aren't the best 10 to 15% of good quality attractive men either ALSO not looking for a serious relationship (because they are the most hot or among them and they CAN be able to pick from their choice of the "litter" so to speak?) ? ! Either THAT, or A LOT of other women will also want them and therefore be COMPETING ALONG SIDE with the other women that it can get ugly! ... And why can't you just accept the fact that some people WON'T feel lonely (because it's not a gender thing, but more of an individual thing. Let's say they LOVE being alone and actually prefer it! They're introverts and WANT alone time and don't LIKE relationships and having to cater to someone else's needs and wants? ! Just theirs! My EX fiance was like that!).
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@TenderFantasy I'm VERY glad you brought that up! I didn't expand on it due to space reasons in the original post, but I'll do so now.
It is absolutely the TRUTH that the men that are generally considered the MOST attractive on the surface - good-looking, successful, often rich - are NOT husband material. Most of those men are pretty open about the fact that they're only looking for casual relationships and aren't monogamous, and while they might being a woman into their lives for a period of time, and while she will enjoy his lifestyle during that time, it's not anything that's going to last. These men are NOT "husbands" and should not be up for consideration as such.
But if you look at the next layer down - the guys in the 70-90% range - there are a lot of men who are above-average in looks (not movie-star hot, but good-looking), who haven't necessarily achieved their career success yet (maybe they're still in school, or just setting up a business, or just starting their careers on a trajectory towards eventual senior management, etc.), but who are good men with good morals and values, who prioritize relationships and family. These guys aren't as flashy or exciting, typically, they don't (yet) have the big money or the big house or the crazy vacations, but they're on a path to success and they're working hard. THIS is where women should be looking for the gold, and when a woman marries this kind of man, before he's "successful" and builds with him, he's FAR more likely to be loyal to her, and to enjoy improving her lifestyle along the way. - +1 y
A girl might dream of a rock star, actor, or athlete and the big baller money, but those guys will never be loyal, and they'll rarely be around - they live their lives on the road, and most of the time, their women can't come with them.
If you want a husband who comes home every night, who is loyal, and who is on a path to success, those winners are found not in the Top 10% where most women are looking, but in the next level down. Unfortunately, most women pass them right by without even seeing them, pursuing the Top 10% guy that she'll never have any chance of keeping. - +1 y
Interesting explanation.
I feel like you're also explaining WHY there are so many single parents out there haha. She's hoping that by having his baby, he'll more likely want to stick around.
+1 yYou're only 17. I had my first ever kiss when I was 20. Some people have it even later in life.
You're definitely not a loser for not having your first kiss or for not being in a relationship. Please do not hurry to get in a relationship just to be in one. Find a quality partner. A lot of relationships aren't great and don't last so it shouldn't be seen as "cool". It's cool to find someone who matched your needs and desires, but not so cool to neglect yourself by allowing lowlives in your life just for a relationship status.
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+1 yWell shit if that’s the case I haven’t been in a relationship in 4 years. No it’s not that most people say it’s a lifestyle and people can also have a hard time finding a person they really click with. People tell me don’t settle. So sometimes as I’m on these dating apps, which don’t go on as your a too young, I look for similar interests, how they look and how will they treat me when we both start talking. Some guys aren’t interesting at all. The guy that I like is on the dating apps but I don't know what is being said about me at my old job. He seems really sweet and caring and we share a lot of interests. So fingers crossed that I get with him.
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+1 yWell single people are not losers. It's better to be single than going out with someone in desperation and then regretting it later. Few years ago when I was 17, had similar kind of thoughts but now when I look back it seems so immature of me to even think that low of me.
Well relationship is not just about the things social media highlights it's more than that when you look at it from the perspective of reality.
There's more to life , consider working on yourselves to become a person offering generosity, socializing with people of common interests, spending time with family, being grateful for this life you are living.
10 ReplyYou are just 17.🤷, and that shouldn't define the quality of your life.
A woman who was killed by her husband, was kissed by him at some point.
My point: being in a relationship don't make you special, it just makes you one person more on this planet, with a partner, and possibly with the idea of forming a family. It's natural as water, and depending from you're getting it from, you'll either have something healthy, something that will sicken you, or something that will make you get killed.
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+1 yWhat have you lost? If you never had these experiences you there was nothing lost and you're still playing the game at your pace. In this game the only way to lose is to give up. Don't pay attention to someone that is going out of thier way to try and make you feel bad about yourself. Some people feel the need try and make someone else feel worse than they feel because they aren't intelligent enough to elevate how they feel and value themselves compared to others. If the person that called you a loser really felt that way would they waste the most valuable thing we call time telling you this. A winner wouldn't wast time interacting with losers.
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+1 yWell the people who called you that are very likely in the next few years to be either single mothers or guys on child support, so you can safely ignore their shaming tactics. Take your time and don't let others pressure you into doing that which you do not feel comfortable with.
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want to talk?
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+1 yAhhh... you're 17, I am sure that is pretty common. Any other 17 year old females/males that suggest they are or were in a relationship likely lasted a week or two.
Most of my friends at that age, changed "relationships" like their underwear, did some minor pecking and that's about it.
Nothing to write home about.
10 Reply 1.4K opinions shared on Relationships topic. You're so young, you got plenty of time to be in a relationship. Just enjoy your youth, spend time with your friends, work on your goals, have fun and be yourself. Ignore those who think you're a loser because you've never been in a relationship. Their opinion doesn't matter.
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+1 yWhy would single people be called losers? According your profile you're 17, which is very young. Bullies would bully people for any particularity or any other silly point they're fantasizing about. Anyway, being single as a teen seems rather normal to me, while being single later in life may be a choice, or the result of a partner leaving or passing away.
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Very true. Thank you.
Relationships can be good or bad and either way if or when they end they leave a dent in you or even change you and its not always good. being single gives you the freedom to achive your goals much quicker or see them clearer i can go on and on but the point is this is very personal and nobody has the right to judge you.
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+1 yYou are not a loser, and I'm sorry for who ever the person told you that I'm Single because I want to save myself for marriage if you understand me and I got my first kiss age 28, and I had 2 ex-girlfriends nothing ever happened with them but got pressured by them, so you see why we broke up. I must be a loser who knows, because I'm Single Lol
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+1 yPeople are single for all sorts of reasons, getting into a relationship is a scary thing especially nowadays with all the nasty people in the world.
You have to start a relationship and carry on with it for it just to go south and all that time you’ve wasted on them it’s just pointless.
The only people who are definitely losers that are single are bullies and narcissists they get in to relationships just to abuse people they deserve to be forever alone and die alone.10 Reply796 opinions shared on Relationships topic. only men not in relationships are considered losers. other labels include incels, sexists, misogynists etc especially if he's MGTOW.
on the other hand, a woman not in a relationship is considered a strong independent woman who's sticking it up to the patriarchy.
20 ReplyA lot of people don't have a relationship until somewhat later. Many of them were just looking for the right person. They want the real thing and it can take time to find that.
Don't let people put pressure on you. There's always those who do that. Just ignore them, what do they know?
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+1 yWhoever told you that is a dick. I’ve been in 4 relationships and kissed 6 people so I’m not just saying this to make myself feel better or whatever. It’s so odd to think that someone’s choice to kiss or not to kiss someone/be in a relationship would make them any better or worse then you. If you are a person that can be self sufficient and has friends and loved ones you have what you need! This obsession with romantic love that our culture has really hurts everyone.
00 Reply1.2K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Not so much "losers," it's more about lifestyle and socials.
You get happy, and confident single people who are a joy to be around. Then you get those emotional vampires who think the world owes them a relationship, and they shouldn't be fapping alone. No, kiddo that's exactly where your bloodline belongs!
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+1 yNo…I know people who were single for quite some time before they met someone or got in a relationship. I was single on and off before as well and took time to focus on myself, currently also doing that. Dating isn’t a race.
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You’re also in high school still I take it? So people your age or lower class kids will say shit like that.. when you get to college if you intend on going, people don’t really trip on that stuff trust me lol.
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+1 yNope. I've gotten told it's sad that I've never had a relationship when I was younger. But honestly, I think it was for the best. Because in my 20s I get to have some learning and figuring out what I want in a future partner.
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+1 yI wouldn't outright consider them a loser... some of the biggest winners in life just kept to themselves.
21 ReplyYou are not a loser. It is important to wait to be in a relationship until you are ready and until you have found someone that you want to be in a relationship with. Personally, I date to marry. I have never been in a relationship and a lot of the time people want to date me for my body or something else. Don't let people push you into doing something that you are not ready for
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+1 yIt's your life, you can live it however you want to.
Relationships are an interesting experience, but being single also has it's benefits.
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+1 yNo. You can't be expected to be in a relationship all the time. It's normal to be single for periods of time. Date someone on your timeline not somebody else's
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+1 yWould you rather be single & considered a loser or be in a relationship with a loser?
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People cannot feel validated without being in a relationship.
That doesn't make you a loser. They just don't know how life works
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+1 yYou’re 17. You’re far more worthy than a title loser. Sounds like the people labeling you have issues.
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+1 yNot at all. Whoever told you you're as loser is obviously emotionally immature. Never judge yourself based on other people's opinions of you.
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+1 yI hope not, because it's not about being single but rather about being promiscuous.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yTo people with a very one track view of life.
I assume you mean "romantic" relationships. And that is only one facet of life. I wouldn't worry about it. Quality is always better than quantity. And quality can happen at ANY age. I didn't meet a woman who wanted to date me till I was 21 and she was worth the wait.
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+1 yWomen are more attracted to men who are already in a relationship than single men.
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+1 yNope. I don't know why this became a trend to tell that people who haven't had a relationship/kiss or are still virgins are losers.. kinda annoying it is.
10 Reply7.2K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Don;t feel that way. Everybody has different standards and life experiences.
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+1 yNope not in my book. And even if you run into those assholes who do think that i say fuck them. They should mind their own business.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yNo your not but I've been told similar things and my family has made it clear that they think I am either gay or going to die alone. I'm 23 not been on a date or had a first kiss. The fact that I know people who so easily find relationships doesn't help either. I'm sorry it happens to you.
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+1 yNo, a loser is a person who dates/marries the wrong person out of fear of ending up alone.
It's hard to find the right person for most people.00 Reply 335 opinions shared on Relationships topic. people tend to generalize, some people are advanced early in life other a lot later nothing wrong with either,
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+1 yI don't think that they are losers who don't have a relationship yet. But the time will tell everything and of course the person will fall in love. :)
10 ReplyThose who call you a loser aren’t happy with their own relationship.
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+1 yWelcome to the losers club haha
For sure you ain't a loser 😊
10 Reply Then i am a bigger one coz at this age i never had any girlfriend nor ever i had also got a kiss
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+1 yIf that's your true age you're only 17 so no you're not a loser focus on your goals and dreams
00 ReplyYou only 17, and it mostly guys who get shamed for that, virgin girls are highly valued.
00 ReplyNot at all. Dating is a real mess right now. So don't rush into it if you're not ready.
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+1 yYou’re a loser if Your opponent wins. Shah, mate! ♟ If You see the getting-asked-out/asking-one-out as no game, no, You’re not a loser in that respect.
00 Reply1.6K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Only men are considered losers. Society would never dare to criticise women. They can do whatever they want and people will support them. Men just can't win. Whatever we do we get criticised.
00 Reply4.1K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Ignore such insults. relationships are not always a good thing.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yYou are still young, I feel like a loser sometimes because I’ve been divorced for years and still haven’t had a relationship yet
10 ReplyNo, to judgmental people who have a narrow minded view of what everyone's lives should look like in an "ideal world" maybe sadly, that's the world we live in🥴
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+1 yNoooo, some guys might say so but they just want to make you feel ugly so ypu'll lower your expectations and sleep with them although their personalities are way below you
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+1 yHaving a title like doesn't mean anything but something someone has been told so they bring down to someone else. Let them say what they want, but never listen to them and be happy in life
00 Reply2.6K opinions shared on Relationships topic. People who think that actually Are the losers in my opinion.
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+1 yRelationships have never been for winners as good as I know. A relationship is a process so if am not yet in it it means I have not yet decided to jump into it period.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yI prefer to be single so i can fuck anyone I want it's a great freedom
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+1 yI think men yes, but girls not so much
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why is that?
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I don't know
I wouldn't value judgmental statements especially that one. Tell them to piss off
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+1 yNot at all, I am quite content on being single for the time being.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI don’t consider single people losers. I do consider people who are in relationships with losers to also be losers because it is contagious.
00 ReplyThe only thing that matters is whether you are having fun or not.
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+1 yYou are not a loser, it will happen, you just need to talk with people
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+1 yI dated for the first time when I was 24.
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