Honestly speaking, once you’re in it, it is very difficult to go out.
If you haven’t declared your sentiments for her, just do it since it’s your only possibility. Being honest is a proof of courage and it’s your only hope, she could have something for you too.
But results aren’t assured, since she could reject you since she considers you only a friend… then you should break your friendship with her since being friend and contemporarily having some romantic sentiment means there’s no good balance.
You have to be willing to lose her as a friend, walk away and never see her again. You need to state that you want intimacy with her by being direct, not blunt and also showing behavior that supports it which creates the sexual tension and makes her see you in that light.
Say what you mean, mean what you say. "Hey, I like you and I am looking for something more intimate, ie sex and romance. I would like to take you on a date, when are you free?" If she beats around the bush or rejcts you, don't get mad. Smile and leave the door open by saying "if you change your mind l, give me a call." Then you walk away. This is important. From then on, you have to wait for her to make the first move and call. When she does, assume she wants to see you and set a date. In the meantime, practice with other girls that strike your eye.
yoy have to be clear with your intention. in my culture to assume that a guy likes you romantically is considered arrogant unless it is so obvious. life is short it is better to lose trying than losing for not trying at all. and you will never know the putcome may favor you especially if you pray to our God ✝️
You have to convince her you are her best option or her happiest choice. Otherwise, go for a girl that does not get a lot of attention.
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Stop pretending to be friends with girls that you have attraction to. You are taking advantage of them.
@spartan55 how is it the other way around when this man openly accepted the friend zone and is softly saying he wants to manipulate for a more intimate relationship?
@kylee2437
I get what you are saying, and agree. I was looking at it as she knows he is into her and strings him along making him think he has a chance, using him for attention and ego boost... but upon reflection that doesn't make sense because she friendszoned him. Each situation has a different set of circumstances.
@spartan55 and that may be true as well but that’s an assumption. We don’t know her side of things but we know for a fact that he’s trying for a girl that set clear boundaries already.
@kylee2437
Which is what I more or less said.
@spartan55 I’m not really sure you said “kind of the other way around actually” which kind of switches blame onto her.
@kylee2437
Goddamn you sure love to argue. And in my second comment I backtracked on that. Did you skip that or something?
@spartan55 you commented on my comment first to essentially argue. I never said you didn’t agree in the second comment. Common theme of you always blaming women…
@kylee2437 Lol, stop it. That made me laugh, he's taking advantage not girl that is using the guy for free attention?
@Vegasrunner do you not read where I said you can’t state an assumption as a fact. Stop putting off blame. It’s not uncommon for a man to swim in the friend zone in hopes the woman will crack one day.
@kylee2437
So, the fact that I backtracked basically taking back what I said in my original comment doesn't matter to you because I disagreed with you to begin with? Nice try. "common theme of always blaming women" - even though I didn't here. I admitted my comment was off and changed. You just conveniently ignore that. At least I can admit when I'm wrong, unlike you. I blame women when it is warranted, not because they are women. Such bullshit.
@Vegasrunner
She doesn't think that is possible, what a shock.
@kylee2437 Lol, I can't tell if you're really being serious. You're literally stating an assumption while pretending it's a fact, while simultaneously obviscating this women's blame.
@spartan55 @spartan55 @spartan55 Pretty standard. Women struggle w/ taking accountability. Literally a women on here named @Yazu-chan that claims she's never taken accountability for anything in her life.
@Vegasrunner What do you mean using the guy for free attention? If he has never really shown his feeling for her and she doesn’t know how he feels, how is it her fault to keep talking to him? I am speaking based on my experience myself. I had a few guy friends in the past who have never told me anything about their attraction towards me, just like what kylee mentioned, they pretended to be my friend and sadly they were good at hiding their feeling which was why I stayed friends with them. Once I got married, they turned into a bitter, passive aggressive stranger.
@desidoll That's part of the problem you guys are speaking from individual experience yet attempting to rationalize a generall phenomenon. My response is I a direct response that he is somehow taking advantage of this women. When in reality he gains nothing from being friends w/ her meanwhile whe gets all the utility value out of having a male friend.
@Vegasrunner So you are saying he should gain something from this “platonic” male-female friendship? I hope you don’t mean sex lol, because that’s what most guy friends are waiting for.
@desidoll Obviously he should only spend his time if there's something in it for him. It's a double loss because he's filling a need for her. Yes I agree that's what most guys are waiting for is sex, if you know this it stands to reason the girl he is dealing w/ knows this as well which is why she is taking advantage of him.
@Vegasrunner
I know you’re an incel but you really don’t have to keep mentioning me in every post you come across. You think about me 24/7, you dream about me, y everything you see in life reminds you of me and honestly it’s sad. Move on. Forget about me. Go live your incel dreams elsewhere. I know you hate women, you hate yourself, so be miserable and annoying by yourself 😊
@Yazu-chan TY for sharing that as I understand how important it is for you to feel wanted. Would you like to elaborate more about incel as I am not as familiar w/ that term?
@Vegasrunner
Google is free.
@Yazu-chan Perfect use it to research the word and lmk what you come up with.
@Vegasrunner Look it up yourself since you’re the one who doesn’t know the term. Or! Pay me for my labor of looking it up for you😊 I’ll give you my Venmo/cash app. Flat rate fee of 30$.
@Yazu-chan TY for your offer but I must reject you, as it not a word that comes up in my conversation I have. While I do understand your need to trade your time for money, I don't think it would he wise to hire someone of your temperament. Best of luck trying to find work though.
@Vegasrunner
Good luck using Google and stop mentioning my name.
@Yazu-chan If anyone I know brings it up I will. We already agreed that I would only bring it up until you ran into a situation that you took accountability for.
@Vegasrunner how is what I’m saying an assumption when I am going off the info provided by the original poster? The men on this app are so miserable lmfao
@Vegasrunner
I have no idea what you’re talking about. I never agreed to you mentioning me on several other posts 😑 you obviously think about me a lot bc you @ me on stuff I don’t comment on. Leave me alone and I promise you I’ll leave you alone because you started a conversation with me FIRST. Live your life without ME.
@Yazu-chan the men on this app are so miserable , it makes me question how their actual lives are like honestly.
@spartan55 it seems like you never really think before you speak was really where I was getting at because it doesn’t take rocket science to figure out a woman in this situation really isn’t at fault when you don’t know her side of the story literally at all.
@kylee2437
No really though, that guy has been stalking and harassing me on this app since a COMMENT I made. It’s really sad. 😂 He got triggered so bad.
@Yazu-chan The fact that he’s going out of his way @ you into a conversation where you weren’t even at to begin with is very creepy. I don’t even know why he came onto my comment section acting like it isn’t common for men to be friend women just to get into their pants. I am literally not friends with men for that reason. I’ve tried being friends with men in the past and all of them were trying to just smash. It got exhausting
kylee2437
That’s so real. Literally I’ve had to drop all of my male friends who aren’t my buds from Elementary because they were predators in disguise. Going so far as to maintain a ‘friendship’ for 2+ years only to find some opportunity to try turning it into a hookup. It’s gross, concerning, and sad. Why can’t we just have a wonderful platonic relationship? It’s because these guys don’t respect women and not even themselves. But yeah, that guy is an incel. If you go look at the thread I was in, you’ll see him take a hard plunge into insanity. It’s amusing to say the least!😂
No not really. Started out as friends. Would like it to develop into something. If anything I am being taken advantage of by slight teasing.
@lunarsclipse433 you aren’t taking accountability to the manipulation you put yourself in. You never had intentions to be friends with this girl. It starts out as attraction to this girl, then you became “friends” because that’s all she can give you and now you are upset that she is treating you like a friend
@kylee2437 Ahh I understand your confusion. Please share anywhere the original poster mentions taking advantage of his friend.
@Yazu-chan That's unfortunate however I don't see where your memory lose is my problem. Besides if you genuinely didn't want to engage in conversation you would simply not reply, however as you mentioned in our previous conversation that you "will get the last word" So while u may be able to lie to yourself, you only further validate how important attention is to women. TY
@Vegasrunner
Dude you can’t read. Because when did I say getting the last word applies to any post that wasn’t my comment? For the last time STOP @tting me on random shit and get a life. The only one that wants attention is you. I’ve never randomly @atted you on any post. Go back and READ to see how YOU keep obsessing over me. I know you hate women but take that up with your mommy, not me bruh. Go outside, touch grass, and date other men if you hate women so much.
And i was the last to reply of my comment on that of post that started this beef so I win! BLOCKED! Go kys now loser😊
@Vegasrunner your creepiness of harassing this girl for absolutely no reason says all we need to know. Your mother wants her basement back soon
@Vegasrunner uhhhh a man pretending to be friends with a woman for a more intimate relationship is a man that’s taking advantage. Why would a man admit to being a creep? You aren’t admitting to being one
@kylee2437
Yeah, I'm sure you've never backtracked on ANYTHING you've ever said, ever, right? You wouldn't admit it if you did.
@Yazu-chan In our previous conversation. Odd you claim you don't want "the last word" or attention yet you continue to @ me. It's also ironic for you to make a claim that "I hate women" when I've mentioned nothing but success w/ them while you open use derogatory terms to describe men.
@kylee2437 TY for sharing that, however I'm well aware of how women attempt tp use shaming language to deflect from the fact that they have no valid point. In your case it's even more telling as you're certainly not privy to the original conversation. Finally I've openly shared that I use this platform to help men understand female nature, when someone provides an example of it I will continue to use it. The exact same way I will use your obvious double standard of this current topic.
@kylee2437 Simply doubling down on an incorrect statement doesn't make it true. An advantage implies that he gets something in return he got nothing on the other hand the girl got security resources and attention. So who's taking advantage of who?
@Vegasrunner why are you going out of your way to defend this so hard? Is it because you do the same thing?
@spartan55 I mean why was your first thought to blame the woman?
@kylee2437
Both of these males are definitely predators and abusers😬 it’s sickening.
@kylee2437 Now I understanding your confusion. You believe that articulating a POV that makes u feel bad is "defending a position" In reality I'm simply asking a pretty logical question one that u ignored becauseu realized how foolish the answer would make you sound. The original question is a common one that many men which should tell you right there is a pretty normal situation. I'm simply providing the author w/ a more realistic view vs your emotional vulnerable one. Personally I don't keep women as platonic friends because they don't have any real value. I have created some ways for guys to use the friend zones to help collect more girls but that is a more sophisticated strategy.
@Vegasrunner you harass women for fun, no one cares about your worthless opinion.
@kylee2437 That is certainly a position you are welcome to hold, unfortunately for you because all the correspondence is in writing there is no evidence you can present to validate that belief.
@Vegasrunner the questions you answer on here have to do with answering with how much you don’t like women. That is my proof
@kylee2437. Huh?
@kylee2437 Lol, thank you for sharing that feeling however as I previously mentioned you can't provide any tangible evidence to support that feeling because there is none. In my lifetime I've had sex w/ over 275 women so it's not realistic for rationale beings to claim I hate women. It's more realistic for a bitter women on an anonymous SM forum to make a ridiculous claim w/o evidence because her feelings are hurt.
@Vegasrunner nice, so you are a walking std and you are proud of that. And the evidence is the question he asked. If you have no intent to be just friends with someone, you should be making that clear otherwise yes you are taking advantage especially when that person has intent of being just friends. I’m not giving into what I’m saying to please you so you might as well stop trying to change my mind.
@kylee2437 The author asked a standard question many men ask. It's u who allowed emotional feelings to enter into the equation. Why would I want to change your mind? It's delusional thinking like yours that has allowed me to bang over 275 + woman. I simply want the author to understand a realistic POV that will help him and not give into some whiny emotional advice from someone who's never had success w/ women.
@Vegasrunner like I said you aren’t going to convince me that men don’t often use women for “friendships” to get closer to them to wanting more even though women already pretty much have made their minds up when they stick a man in the friendzone. Get real
@kylee2437 Like I said, I don't care about convincing you of anything because stupid people make up the world too. You don't know anything about women because you've never been w/ any, so it would be foolish for any man to listen to your advice. Besides I already told u it's a waste of time for men to be friends w/ woman because they don't provide any useful value, however u keep ignoring that so u can spew your misandry.
@Vegasrunner what a weirdo “you don’t know anything about women” bruh I am a woman. Stop being a psycho and get over yourself
u You don't. Just because you want it doesn't mean she must give you a chance.
It's also nice to be friends with a girl. However, whenever I found myself wanting more at some point, it never worked out. We just remained friends.
Part of the difficulty is that I'm naturally a bit on the boring side. I suppose I always needed the thrill of novelty on my side for a woman to fall in love with me.
There's only one way I know of. It does carry the risk of losing the friend, though. Maybe not.
Confess your intentions.
I'm not for the "beating around the bush" approach. You'll drive yourself crazy, and possibly confuse your "intended".
At our ages, we just gotta confess our feelings.
That's my two cents.
Good luck to you. 👍😊🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🌭
I think people don't know the friend zone is one of the greatest zones to be. All my friends with the exception of one, had some form of sexual fling with me. Girls always reward their friends who are genuine.
As for emotional relationship, don't ever push for it with a friend. The benefits of friendship is, if she wants you, she will let you know. She will never hide he feelings from you. So I advice that you look elsewhere.
That's the thing, if you manipulate them, you are not their friend. You are actually the Devil. There was a time I would sleep with a friend but I didn't like what happened after. I sincerely enjoy genuine friendships with these people. As for emotional or sexual satisfaction, I am learning to look beyond my friendship cycle.
You don't.
You leave them alone entirely if you can't accept being just a friend.
It's be nothing more than a platonic friend or be a stranger who doesn't talk to them. Those are your routes.
Don't enter it be clear about your intentions from the start. It's dating not friendship. Then there won't be much of an issue if you abort, if she fails the personality evaluation.
Stop acting like her friend. Otherwise, you will just be that. Start changing the dynamics gently. For instance, start flirting. See how she responds. And if she flirts back, there you go. I would tell her you see her as more. A lot of good relationships actually start as friends.
You don't, you move on. Now at some point she MAY seek you out. But at that point you need to evaluate whether she's even worth taking back. Because she was not smart enough to see your value to begin with. So she's a definite gamble. It's probably better to stick with a woman that accepts you from the getgo.
I used to write pages and pages and pretend I was like a strippe to my boyfriend
I mean introverted guys suck
So if ur extroverted it’s easy
I've slept with most of my female friends so you don't necessarily have to get out of there. What's your desired end state? There one in particular you want to date?
I do not believe in the concept of a friend zone. But either she is attracted to you or she isn't. There is a little wiggle room with this but after a while if she does not respond its just not going to happen.
At my age nowadays and from my own baggage, I'd just move on. I'd just move on. If it were me. Anyways, always are other hot women out there for you and me and all, 💋💗 lol 😆
easiest way out of the friendzone is: stop being friends. can't be in the friendzone if you're not friends. there's enough other girls to have more intimate relationships with. fuck wasting your time for a girl who doesn't want you.
Ask her out? The worst thing that can happen is she's aro and she breaks up with you, both as a friend and as a woman.
That's how I'd react. My male friends know that.
You should think about making the first move. Compare it to baseball. I guess there is a chance you might be called on to pinch run now and then, but you'll get on base a lot more if you step up to the plate and take some swings.
Tbh, you don't. Women have ultimate control over who they choose to mate with. It's wired into them generltically. They either see you that way right out of the gate, or they don't.
Easy... go point blank and ask the question, then you'll know the answer to your own question.
Once you are if the unfuckable category you won't get out of the friend zone
You never replied to anyone. Have fun in the friend zone.
You don't. The friend zone is a final stop. What you do is eject her from your life and never tolerate the friend zone again. And don'take the same mistakes that landed you in the friend zone.
Just tell the girl (not text) that u want to take things to the next level
She either likes you or she doesn't. Talk about your emotions with her, ask her out. If she doesn't want you then don't waste your time.
What is so hard about just being friends?
Friends is nice but maybe there could be something more
@anonymous women don't offer much value to men in a friendship role.
you can’t, if she doesn’t have feelings for you
You don't. You take your L and move on.
Be a man, walk away
You don't
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