How do we fix relations between men and women?

[BCRanger10]

How do we fix relations between men and women. General relations, that is, not just strictly when it comes to dating. My observation has been that men and women today don't get along very well, that they don't respect or appreciate each other, and that they really seem to resent each other. Is my observation accurate? And of so, how do we fix it?

How do we fix and improve relations between men and women?

[Smart_Monk]

Actually i don't see it. i see a lot of people being selfish, and if they are then they're toxic toward both genders. A good person is god to everyone. But i will attempt to outline a few requirements to end this selfishness.

• each person has to choose to improve themsleves first. Never expect others to improve before you do.
• Learn worry-free care, about anything in life. Relationships just quicken the development of the skill to care as deeply as if you're attached, but being detached enough to not be hurt.
• Stop putting on a mask, many people attack others simply because they see what they repress in themselves. That includes cross-gender hate. The problem is that regular attempts to be kind will not work as long as you're in a battle within, these are subconscious results of lying to oneself. ㅤ

[MrChinaski]

^^ this

[shoeboxcerealcard]

Judge people individually and not by group... @BCRanger10

That's it... But you aren't going to see that because most people haven't been taught to think. Most people rarely think. You'd never judge a whole group for what one person did if you were thinking. "I hate men" - because you aren't thinking. They turn around and say they didn't mean all men but they did. They just finally started thinking once you called them out and realized they actually only hate the men who have hurt them.

If you're not thinking anyone can brainwash you pretty easily. Most people don't know how brainwashing even works. And that's why men and women hate each other today... Political professionals are controlling you for their elections.

All you have to do is keep bringing people's attention to this: "Judge people individually and not by group"

Tell them it often and make it big and emotional.

[sage2021]

It really seems that way. It's not getting any better either, maybe worse.

I don't have an answer to your question.

The only thing that I can say is that if you happen to find people that you click with, keep the relationship alive.
Friend or love relationship.

Gotta put some energy into any relationship to keep it going. Some people meet people and then just let it fade away.

I'm not like that but most people are. I cherish my relationships and still they don't always work out.

🤷🏼‍♀️

[NathanDavis]

inadequate people should fix their inadequacies... that's the only way

that's the whole point of growing up... and become worthy of a relationship with another grown up

[MrOracle]

It's going to be a self-correcting problem - but it'll get ugly before it gets better.

The birthrate is dropping all over the world. The supply of human capital is going to massively decrease, for several generations, and that's going to force HUGE changes on how life works, across the globe.

You're going to see a MASSIVE decrease in "office jobs" - the recent lay-offs over the last couple of years will look like nothing - massive companies are going to become small companies and tons and tons of small companies are simply going to cease to exist, and whole categories of services and products are going to disappear completely. There simply won't be enough workers to produce them, and the priority is going to be the basics - food, water, electricity, shelter, transportation.

Even then, there aren't going to be enough men to do the "man jobs" - construction, engineering, mining, oil & gas, shipping, trucking, electrical distribution, water treatment, and manufacturing. Paperwork jobs will mostly be done by AI with very, very few office workers to look over them, and the vast majority of jobs are going to be - to at least some degree - physical in nature. 3/4 of all learning institutions will close, from elementary schools to universities, and of those that remain, many will be more like trade schools than pure academic learning.

The least physical jobs are going to be doctors/nurses, cleaners, and gardeners, but a lot of women are going to have to take jobs as truck drivers, construction workers, and farmers just to maintain basic infrastructure. Luxuries like restaurants, coffee shops, and fashion clothing are going to get cut WAY back because there won't be enough workers to staff them, or people willing to pay what they cost to staff. I won't say they will disappear completely, but they certainly won't be something people do outside of special occasions - they'll be too expensive for most people.

Women who want to live a "strong and independent" life will have to take some kind of a physical job. Most "sit at my desk drinking coffee and scrolling Instagram" jobs will be extinct. And, well, I suspect that most women aren't going to want to do physical jobs for very long, and the kinds of comfortable office jobs that degrees used to get you largely won't exist. There will be a lot fewer teaching jobs, and government office jobs will be in short supply and ultra-competitive. The women wanting an easier life where they don't have to work a physical job will have to learn to get along with a man and be a wife and mother. I suspect that the harsh realities of that society will have created incentives for that, because increasing the birthrate will be the only way to restore some version of the luxuries that are common today.

Most people today don't realize that we're already well on our way to this - it's already GOING to happen and it's already WAY too late to change it - but because the consequences take so long to become apparent, I'm pretty sure it's going to keep getting worse for several more generations (with steadily devolving technologies and economies) before the birthrate turns around and things start to get better again.

This is the reason that the government is so behind AI - some amount of paperwork MUST get done, and they know there won't be enough bodies to do it, so AI doing it is going to be vital. The question is whether the infrastructure can be maintained long enough (decades) to turn around the birthrate. It's hoped that the tech will evolve fast enough to reduce infrastructure needs significantly - but that assumes we can continue to advance development both of the software and the hardware - both are uncertain.

[Phunk_Fenomenon]

I don’t think this madness can get fixed by men and women yelling at each other online. A lot of the damage is coming from the fucking environment we’re living in.

Modern society is not really built for love, commitment, patience, or intimacy anymore. It is built for stimulation. Porn, dating apps, social media, outrage content, endless entertainment, and gender-war influencers all train people to see each other as disposable, threatening, or replaceable.

Men and women are not naturally enemies. But when both sides are constantly being fed suspicion, comparison, lust, resentment, and unrealistic expectations, trust breaks down.

The people and platforms making money from attention do not benefit from stable relationships. They benefit from lonely, anxious, distracted people who keep scrolling, consuming, arguing, and chasing the next hit of validation.

So the fix is not some grand speech about “men” or “women.” It starts with rejecting the culture that is making everyone more suspicious, overstimulated, and emotionally unavailable. Less porn, less gender-war content, less social media addiction, more real-life standards, self-control, family, discipline, and actual commitment.

[Anonymous]

I think if we remove social media from society, then we might fix a lot of them.
The freedom of speech created a wave of online influencer which tell men and women to see the world in black and white.
And never trust anyone.
Andrew tate and Mia Khalifa telling young people to not to respect the opposite gender and try to grow yourself.
One part really good and one part just the worst, people subconsciously notices that things he/she are correct in a way.
Which created today's issue of trust.
Men feeling betrayed because they have ego and want love.
And women feel betrayed because the regular kindness is taken as attraction or a sign.
Fixing these things requires stop listening, stop talking on the topic until they disappear.
There is another issue crimes against women will also get suppressed as women try to put every man in one box, creating a taboo subject when one guy does bad all guys are bad.

and men tend to compartmentalize, unknowingly to restrict getting attached.
One girl was bad not all of them (it has spread now to generalizing them on there style of interaction)
I have seen women thinking being in relationship is just another burden.
And I have seen men who see relationship as a huge responsibility.

Even friendship is difficult, hanging out constantly, men tend to fall in love much faster because caring or annoying someone is something they love to do.
So keeping distance is a choice mostly to keep one another safe from the the deviation.
This is only for men, don't get attached, women never are going fall in love with you no matter how much time you spend with them.

[OneViewpoint]

Be careful. What you are responding to in some cases is the outliers of society or outright liars on social media producing clickbait content for profit. In other cases you're getting fake feminists or Red Pill nutcases. They are the squeaky wheels who draw all the attention.

But that's because the normal people are just getting on with their lives in a quiet fashion. And that's what I see daily, outside of the dating apps and the social media nonreality.

Most women are not horrible monkey branching Golddiggers. And guys for the most part are civil and decent. The vast majority of us are not the problem. We don't need fixing. Oh sure there's friction occasionally. But for the most part we're all just trying to get along.

[BCRanger10]

I've admittedly gone back and forth. Sometimes it seems like we're at each other's throats, but then again most of the women I've known have also NOT been the gold-diggee types. So that's also why I asked if the impression I'm getting is correct.

[OneViewpoint]

@BCRanger10,

Go with what you see in the real world rather than what you see on the internet. We're not that different from our parent's generation. We haven't gone to Hell. Doesn't that seem a lot more plausible? 🫡

[BCRanger10]

It most certainly does. The only hangup I have with that is the anonymity and lack of challenge and accountability the internet provides. Some people are probably voicing their actual thoughts, some are probably just looking for clicks. I don't know 🤷‍♂️ I think it's just better to assume that if I meet someone nice and pleasant in real life that that's how they are.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

🔷 "Is my observation accurate?"

This platform features people living in different towns, cities, countries and continents. That's for the macro level. At the micro level, 2 different people from the same city can each observe and draw different conclusions based on how they fit their surroundings. So anyone's "accuracy" feels very limited to me.

The very few people I've seen not getting along with the opposite sex have some things in common. They are in quite a bad shape, psychologically, and it is reinforced by the time they spent on the internet watching divisive content. This content is telling them, implicitly or explicitly, that their problem comes from the opposite sex.

Aside from these discouraging cases, what I see around me is men and women working together, chatting in bars, and walking as mini groups composed of both sexes in the street.

[RavVid]

Not to be resolve in our lifetime and I'd guess at least a hundred years maybe two hundred. From the beginning of feminism till now is 66 years.

The juice is not worth the squeeze now. If it did become worth it tomorrow, it would at least take double that 66 years or triple it.

Once bitten twice shy right? Received knowledge. A product that was unsatisfactory doesn't become new again with a new advert. Bud Light anyone.

Experiences in my 20's, experience of friends and divorce statistics tell me to never marry and to nor be in one longer than a year.

[Mark_Est]

Teach the next generation of women to respect themselves instead of being some low value std farmers with phases, flings, healings, finding themselves etc, so men also have something to respect about women.

As simple as that. The older generations are just slop. Nothing can be done there anymor.

[jshm2]

You need to get new glasses then as your "observations" are not based on anything you are able to see clearly.

The world population is increasing - not decreasing. Unless you're claiming there is some factory where women are being tied down and forced to have babies - a lot of families and relationships are moving up day by day in reality.

[LiamJHayden]

I do not have that issue nor do I observe it in my circle. I do see Youtube rage bait videos where women have over-the-top absurd expectations like the guy making $5M/year minimum, but those have to be isolated. I live in a pretty expensive area and have never encountered anything remotely like that. I have gotten rejected for being too young (I tend to approach older women) and too tall (6'2), but not being within someone else's preferences is just the reality of life.

[Hunter-40m]

Actually you described the reasons why today s relationships are toxic or getting toxic doing the things of opposite of those you spoke of may be the solution

[tzdc21]

For starters stop bursting each other and acknowledging each others strengths, flaws, achievements and issues.

[Jammannn]

Where is this obersavation coming from? I think that tells a lot more than any general comments people would make about fixing broad social problems that have no real solution as an individual.

[msc545]

I don't think there is an easy or effective way to do this.

[AcidMan]

It depends on whst is problem. Does it need the help of a third party or go find sokr one new

[Mike_Hum]

Ban all social media.