What The Hijab Really Is

[MissPeach35]

So, recently "National Hijab Day" has just passed. I've seen posts on here about the hijab being oppressing to women. But my question to you is how many people on here know the true meaning of the hijab? By the looks of some of the opinions I have seen on this website, not many if any at all. That is not their fault though. It's only been portrayed to them in one light and I understand that. That's why I'm writing this MyTake, so you can see the hijab in another way.

Now when you read the word "hijab" a piece of clothing like this probably came to your mind:

And yes, that is a form of hijab. However, that piece of clothing is not only what a hijab is.

In the language of Arabic the definition of the word "hijab" is:

1. A veil

2. Barrier or partition

In the religion of Islam, the definition of the hijab is the principle of modesty in all ways. That includes behaviour, intentions, actions, dress and in every other way imaginable.

So, even though you don't cover your head you could still be metaphorically wearing a hijab. If I'm not covering my hair but acting in a modest way, I am wearing a hijab in another form. Say a woman or man covers their hair, but they're using foul language, and being disrespectful, then that eliminates the idea of the hijab. Not covering your head, but being modest.

So why do Muslim women cover their hair then?

Is what you may now be thinking. Well, as said before Islam promotes modesty, the idea of the hijab is modesty in all ways. One of those ways is dressing modestly. And different people have different perceptions of modesty. For some people covering their body is enough, for others, they feel the need to cover their hair because that is what makes them feel most modest.

Many people highlight Muslim women covering their hair with the hijab. However, many people do not tend to highlight that also Muslim men cover their hair too. Muslim men cover their hair by wearing a taqiyah. This is a cap. But not like a baseball cap kind of cap, a cap which looks more like this:

Like not all Muslim women wear the hijab, not all Muslim men wear the taqiyah. Muslim men who do wear the taqiyah will wear it for the same reason as the women wear the hijab, it is what makes them feel most modest.

Now, I'm not going to deny it, there are Muslim women who are forced to wear the hijab in all around the world. I do not condone that, nor does Islam. Islam does not promote force, this is shown in the verse:

"Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth stands out clear from error."

— Sunan Abu Dawood, 14:2676

So if force is forbidden in Islam, then why do some Muslim women forced to cover their hair against their will?

Because many people are misinformed about what the hijab truly is. Did you even know the hijab was just more than a piece of clothing to cover your head before you read this? Many people today, will think of hijab as a head covering and nothing more, the first thing is misunderstanding.

Secondly, ignorance. Muslims are only human after all. Some humans are ignorant. So they will only focus on verses which suit them. And be ignorant to ones which don't. They may ignore them, or may only be taught certain ones, and the be ignorant in the sense they aren't willing to learn any further- or see alternative opinions.

Making women cover their head against their will is wrong. It is not Islam and not humanity and it does need to stop.

Yes, it is a requirement, it is compulsory for any follower of Islam to remain modest. And that's where confusion occurs. Because sometimes instead of modesty the word 'hijab' is used. When the word hijab is used it is a synonym for modesty. Yet people believe hijab refers to just covering one's hair. It doesn't have to mean the head covering, yes a woman or a man can cover their head out of choice, but forcing them to do so is forbidden.

Thank you for reading this MyTake! Hopefully, this has made you more aware of what the what hijab actually is. Feel free to comment on this MyTake but be respectful and mindful. I felt the need to share the MyTake so people are more aware of what they do not know. Hope you found this helpful :)

[phantomD]

I like that u have explained what the hijab and the concept behind it but and i need to clear something that girls are asked to wear hijab but men were not asked to wear taqiyah moreover Islam dont force u to do a thing and there is a text in the Quran insists on no forcing in the islam. In addition to that i like to say that moslems say salam instead of hi or hello which means peace and islam is a peaceful religion and they dont harm people unless they got harm and ISIS is far from islam they do there crime and say that is islam. And back to hijab i remember something that even Christian nun wear hijab which mean it is present in Christian religion also but in the latest years most people free themselves from it

[MissPeach35]

Thanks for the opinion :)

[House5plusforth]

Just to let you know ISIS, is the Wife or Sister of a Rap group called X-Clan that was out in the 80-90's. Look her up on you COMPUTER (ISIS of X-Clan)

[Sevenpointfive]

i'll ask the next arab i see tomorrow if she feels she's wearing a hijab. should be interesting.

[MissPeach35]

Sorry?

[Sevenpointfive]

no peach. i just don't see many hijabs worn here. i didn't know the meaning so it would be interesting to know if their modesty is intact without one.

[MissPeach35]

Haha, it's not just Arabs that are Muslim you know. Any of any race can be a Muslim. There are Muslims of all races around the world. :)

And yes, their modesty can still be intact without the hijab (headscarf). As I said in the MyTake it's more than just what you wear. A girl can show her hair, but have it shown in a modest way, and act modestly- that doesn't make her any less modest than a girl with the hijab. The same goes for men and the taqiyah. A girl could be wearing a hijab (headscarf) and be swearing and shouting all the time- her modesty wouldn't be intact because of her actions but a girl dressed modestly without the hijab (headscarf) and her modesty would be more intact than a girl wearing the hijab (headscarf).

[Sevenpointfive]

so are you saying the headscarf and cap are actually outdated symbols? they don't seem necessary and are more personal preference. i know growing up it was customary for my people to wear their "sunday's best" going to church. i just thought the hijab was religious. can a woman show up without one to worship?

[MissPeach35]

Good question.

It's only necessary for worship. During worship, a man has to wear a taqiyah and a woman has to wear the hijab (headscarf). That is the only time covering your hair is obligatory is during worship to show respect.

But in day-to-day life, the hijab is not necessary. As long as you are modest in day-to-life, that's all that matters and that can be with or without the hijab.

Many religious women do wear the hijab (headscarf) and it can be religious. Because the prophets advised the women in his life to wear the hijab because many people were against the prophet and often act in a derogatory way towards women related to the prophet. The women covering up didn't give the prophets enemies any power over the women.

So yes, the hijab can be a religious statement but it is not compulsory for Muslim women to wear outside of worship.

[Sevenpointfive]

so you see how the hijab can be misconstrued as a symbol of religion and not "modesty" as you myTake'd.

[MissPeach35]

Yes, I do understand how it can be as you said. That's people's lack of understanding.
Also, what do you mean by "MyTake'd"?

[Sevenpointfive]

well, you taught me something. thank you for that. i thought this was a myTake because it was a longer question.

[MissPeach35]

You are welcome. It was a MyTake by the way, and if you have any further questions, feel free to PM me, I may not answer straight away- but I will answer to the best of my ability.

It feels good knowing I've taught someone something, thank you for willing to learn :)

[shimmeryns]

"Secondly, ignorance. Muslims are only human after all. Some humans are ignorant. So they will only focus on verses which suit them. And be ignorant to ones which don't. They may ignore them, or may only be taught certain ones, and the be ignorant in the sense they aren't willing to learn any further- or see alternative opinions."

How true this is! Thank you for sharing your view on this.

[MissPeach35]

Thank you! :)

[spunkygiraffe]

Wow! This was very informative! I guess I never really understood it, but now I think I understand a little better. I love the points you made and how you addressed a lot of things that people believe about hijab that are misguided. Great Take! :)

[MissPeach35]

Thank you! If you have any questions about it feel free to PM me! :)

[spunkygiraffe]

Ok! The best source is always a direct one! :)

[MissPeach35]

Haha, thank you, I'll take that as a compliment :)

[spunkygiraffe]

Yeah, if you look stuff up on the internet, you won't get the best answers, it's a good thing to be able to ask somebody who knows what they're talking about, (aka, you)

[MissPeach35]

I agree with you. The internet can be a reliable source sometimes, but not all the time. Sometimes it can just get confusing :)

[ladsin]

Hey thanks for sharing your opinion on the matter. I still have to say I largely disagree, but I understand to you it means something different than it does to me. I actually was in something of a debate with a feminist friend of mine on this topic recently as they seemed to be advocating the hijab as a symbol of feminism. I disagree with this. While I think women should be allowed to wear what they want, that needn't mean I think what they're wearing is good or indicative of what they think it is. One example I gave was of the Hindu's usage of the Swastika. To them it's a sign of austerity and luck, but to us it's a symbol of terror, hate, and genocide. Just like I wouldn't recommend that a Hindu wear a Swastika here (although I would support their right to wear it) I wouldn't recommend that a woman wear the hijab (note I said the) as in much of the world it's a symbol of oppression. I'm sure that you know, as you referenced here, that in many Islam dominated societies a woman can be raped, beaten, molested, or otherwise suffer some grave attack for being in violation of purdah with the attackers having impunity. Even beyond that I must say that I find Ayan Hirsi Ali's statement, “The veil deliberately marks women as private and restricted property, non-persons, the veil sets women apart from men and apart from the world; it restrains them, confines them, grooms them for docility. It is the mark of a kind of apartheid, not the domination of a race but of a sex.” seems to resonate far more with my understanding of the requirement for women to wear a veil than the happy "I'm doing it because I want to be pure" version. Just so that I'm not coming across as particularly opposed to Islam I say the same thing about the Bible's call for women to be covered. There's only two particularly noteworthy points on that. The first is that almost no Christian adheres to that standard besides the few nuns, and a small number of groups like the Amish and orthodox Jews. The second is that I'm aware of no similar case in recent history where a "Christian" nation forces woman to wear them, nor am I aware of at least half a dozen videos of women being brutally attacked for not wearing them.

For these reasons instead of "National Hijab Day" celebrating the Hijab I'd be far more in favor of a movement that sought justice and equality for these poor women. That's at least my two cents. Whew, sorry for the length.

[MissPeach35]

I must say I disagree Ayan Hirsi Ali's statement. That is how some people decide to treat the hijab, and I disagree with that and those people are incorrect in terms of religion as well. Many women wear it, not only because "they want to be pure". Firstly, no grown human can be "pure", that is impossible. So it's not purity, it's modesty. The two are different.

Here are all the definitions for "pure": https://www.dictionary.com/browse/pure
Here are all the definitions for "modest": https://www.dictionary.com/browse/modest?s=t

See how the two are different? Wearing the hijab for some women can also be a sense of identity- like saying you're Muslim without actually saying it. Women and girls have been attacked for wearing the hijab. One pregnant woman got kicked in the stomach repeatedly for wearing the hijab and her baby died. Many women put on the hijab to stand up against these attacks, to stand up to this kind of oppression.

I'm not denying the fact that women in certain countries are oppressed and are forced to wear the hijab. I don't agree with that. But that isn't the hijab's fault. It's the mentality those people (mainly the men) have. Rather than blaming the hijab, blame their lack of education.

I humbly disagree with you but thank you anyway.

[InTimoreDei]

Ayan Hirsi Ali is the last person you should be quoting and getting information from. She is anti Islam and nevery truly practised is. She is a completely biased resource.

[ladsin]

@InTimoreDei she grew up in an islamic country, believed in Islam, came from an Islamic family who cut off her clitoris at the age of 5 because they believed it was in keeping with the rules of islam. etc.
I do find people who say that she was not Muslim to be really funny though, it's like the Christian version of Matt Dillahunty or some other no true scottsman XD

[CuChullan]

The world is a big place with many different cultures, traditions and religions, and no religion. To enjoy the world, and it's peoples, we need to accept and be tolerant of the differences that culture and traditions we find wherever we come across them. We are all entitled to believe and worship according to what religion we follow or belong to. Or none for that matter. We are not entitled to use either as a stick to beat others with.

[MissPeach35]

Well said :)

[Alfadhirhaiti]

Yeah but I have modesty and can walk around in a tank top and boy shorts, so what your saying is Islamic woman must cover up everything. I will admit the news report on crap like Muslim not bearing a race but being a religious path, what I don’t agree is the treatment of their woman and how their religion seems nasty. Their God hates more than the christain one so I guess I disagree with Muslim not Arabic’s. Everyone has the right to their opinion and everyone has the right to live their lives their way and not all Arabic woman get this choice.

[genericname85]

i know the true meaning of the hijab but still think it's oppressive to women. mind you it's by far not as bad as having to wear a burqa but still in my opinion it is an excessive modesty that is imposed on women.

i can see why you would defend it with the spiritual/religious reason or even just by applying standards of "modesty" different to those of the west, however i personally also argue that women having to wear bras as a societal standard is oppressive in a way.

because they can choose not to wear a bra but then they'll get raised eyebrows and a certain social stigma with it. having considered that, would you agree with calling a hijab oppressive as a bra?

[MissPeach35]

I appreciate your opinion, but where I come from people really don't care if you are or are not wearing a bra.

[genericname85]

i do think that wearing a bra or a hijab or any piece of clothing should be a personal decision dictated by the personal opionion of modesty and style only, not superimposed by a societal or religious standards.

[genericname85]

opinion of modesty, style and functionality...

[House5plusforth]

We was told not to disrespect the women that wear those (things) because they hold there light bodies for the Highest Of all Gods Energies within them, because I'm in Pranic Light Healing and I look at the light around the body that are bodies throw off and those women that have those on there body light stops at the neck and on those who don't have them on I can see there light bodies all around there heads, so I think It's good that they wear them it keeps there light bodies to them. Also to those there men it gives Respect to there's and Gods Energy the women got more of (within Spiritual Light)
then us men that has light energies also.( light bodies in Religion it's commonly seen around the HEAD of all Jes'us and his disciples head also) It's Respect for and to Gods light bodies that we all have not Of gods that don't no, No Disrespect to the writer.

[MarkRet]

You said that the hijab is not forced or required, yet there are large numbers of Muslim men who will beat a Muslim woman for not wearing one, while they themselves don't wear ANY kind of head covering. They just assume that a woman who is not completely covered is a whore, and therefore a target for rape.

You say this is a wrong attitude of Islam, yet no other Muslims EVER challenge these 'wrong Muslims", they just say, "Well, that's too bad", and look the other way.

[MissPeach35]

Covering your head is only compulsory during worship. And that goes for both genders.

" You said that the hijab is not forced or required, yet there are large numbers of Muslim men who will beat a Muslim woman for not wearing one, while they themselves don't wear ANY kind of head covering. They just assume that a woman who is not completely covered is a whore, and therefore a target for rape. " You're right. That does happen in some places, but not all Muslim men do this, my father never forced me into wearing anything I don't want to wear. The men forcing women to wear the hijab, need to stop, and I'm not denying that. If they're forcing women to wear the hijab then they clearly do not know the religion properly.

"You say this is a wrong attitude of Islam, yet no other Muslims EVER challenge these 'wrong Muslims", they just say, "Well, that's too bad", and look the other way. " Saying it's the wrong attitude is challenging these men's views. I can't go up to one and start telling my views because I don't know any Muslim men like this. There are other Muslims which do challenge these types of Muslims, you just don't know any.

[Darklydarkened]

People like you are really keen on lying. 'Men cover their head too' part is just a blant out lie.

That hat you put the photo of is neither a thing of Islam enforces on men, nor it serves to cover the hair.

'Oh, it isn't about just covering your hair, it's about modesty, well acting, being nice'

Which are actually, sauced words to cover the fact that Islam indeed oppresses them. What does it suggest to immodest (which is quite vague) women? Soft kisses and whispers of love?

'Not all women wear hijab', because A, not all of them are religious, B not all of them are members of overly religious societies.

Not because Islam is understanding or anything.

[MissPeach35]

Lying? That's incorrect. Your view of Islam has been tainted by my MyTake so it's lying?

'That hat you put the photo of is neither a thing of Islam enforces on men, nor it serves to cover the hair.' - Is it not? I guess this is just a non-Muslim man then... en.wikipedia.org/.../File:Indian_Muslim.jpg

I have pictures, family members, sources of authority to back up my claims. What do you have?

[Darklydarkened]

What base, you have on Quran to support your argument? People wear various things on their heads in various lands, how many of them are caused by Islam?

There is no order, nor a suggestion in Quran about whether men should cover their hair or not. I know it, you know it, you're just trying to evade the thing.

We're talking about the Holy Book that suggests that you should beat your wife, if she's not obedient, that they're like a man's field, that is counted as wordly goods with any wealth in the world.

Oh yes, it is so caring, not oppressing, humanist thing, we're just tainted in our views.

[MissPeach35]

Did you even read the MyTake?

The Qur'an promotes modesty, some women feel most modest by wearing the hijab and some men feel most modest by wearing the taqiyah. Therefore they wear head coverings. Islam.

You are right people on various lands, wear various head coverings. If one of the people wearing an alternate head covering said: "Islam promotes modesty, and I am wearing this head covering to be modest." Then Islam is the reason for that.

Many Muslims wear the hijab/taqiyah to cover their head to make them feel modest because that is what most Muslims wear, so it's become like a statement to say: "I am Muslim"

"We're talking about the Holy Book that suggests that you should beat your wife, if she's not obedient, that they're like a man's field, that is counted as wordly goods with any wealth in the world." - This is where you misunderstand translation. the word "beat" used in that statement is the Arabic word: وَاضرِبوهُنَّ
The word has several meanings. One of those meanings can be to physically hit, and that would contradict other verses in the Qur'an. The word (وَاضرِبوهُنَّ) has another meaning: "to disregard, shun, ignore, discontinue interaction". This is what the word means in the Qur'an as it would be contradictory to say otherwise.

[Darklydarkened]

You're just ignoring the point I've made.

Quran just promotes oppression and call it modesty.

Hitler was calling what he did 'justice', you know. Doesn't make him particularly just.

And I am so sick of this islamist who constantly claim that the texts mean something other than what they say, whenever they're faced with something they dislike

[MissPeach35]

An Islamist and a Muslim aren't the same things either. It just goes to how far your knowledge goes.

Modesty does not equal oppression. Modesty is a way of life, and it is more than just the way you dress.

You're seriously comparing following Islam, to a massacre of people?

"And I am so sick of this islamist who constantly claim that the texts mean something other than what they say, whenever they're faced with something they dislike "
I'm not an Islamist I'm a Muslim.

Here is a video from a person explaining the difference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB534izD9ng

I'm explaining my interpretation of it. You know the Qur'an was originally written in Aramaic translated to Arabic, then you're reading and Arabic to English translation. Some words are lost in translation. Some words have different meanings in Arabic than they do in English. So it may look like one thing in English, but mean something else, considering it's translated from Arabic.

[jacquesvol]

The original idea was to protect from insolations (solar strokes) But since too many people neglected it, they made it a religious command and fathers and priests gave it it a different sense.

[TripleAce]

This doesn’t say anything but modesty and her covering her hair
Ya that’s what it is and that’s what we always knew about it... that’s what Muslims tell us

So where’s the part that explains what the hijab really is? It’s nothing more than her covering her hair for men

[MissPeach35]

Haven't you understood this MyTake?
The hijab is not for covering one's head for men, that is just a rumour.

[TripleAce]

Yes it is... it’s not a rumour
Because when I accidentally walked in on my friends hijab friend while she had it off... she dived under the table screaming saying omg he will see my hair

It’s exactly because of that what are you talking about?

[MissPeach35]

Well, that is her interpretation of Islam.
She may have wanted to be modest in front of you, wearing the hijab may have made her feel most modest.

[TripleAce]

There’s no her interpretation. That’s what she is taught by her parents and be imam
The hijab has strict rules for men to see other than your husband or brother yes?

So how can you say it’s not about hiding your hair from men. That’s exactly what it’s for

[MissPeach35]

Well, I was taught by my family that it doesn't matter if you wear the hijab or not- just be modest and humble.

I feel like your friend is doing more of a cultural thing, than a religious thing.

[TripleAce]

Yes your family if teaching you the right way. Giving you the true choice to wear it or not. Because they tell you it’s ok not to wear it

But many Muslim women have been told they must wear it to be a true Muslim. So they feel they must cover ever strand of hair or they are doing something bad

[MissPeach35]

"But many Muslim women have been told they must wear it to be a true Muslim. So they feel they must cover ever strand of hair or they are doing something bad "

Yes, I know and that is exactly my point! I've seen young girls at my school being forced by their parents to wear it and I know that is not correct.

Why do these people never look at the verse:
"Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth stands out clear from error."
— Sunan Abu Dawood, 14:2676

It says it in black and white- no compulsion. My point is these people have a twisted view of religion which may or may not be at fault of their own but I'm just pointing out my alternate view.

[Giggletr0n]

It's basically no different to a hat or a hood, it's what it represents that makes people loose their shit

[MissPeach35]

Exactly! I couldn't have put it into any better words than that :)

[MissPeach35]

But what I do have to question is: What do you mean by what it represents? What do you think it represents. I couldn't agree more with the hat/hood thing, - but the second part of your answer just makes me curious as to what you mean?

[Giggletr0n]

The idea that it represents and helps to maintain modesty and privacy from unrelated males (traditionally speaking) is perfectly fine and understandable as a religious concept, but it's when that idea gets bought around people that don't subscribe to keeping covered up is when people can't handle it and view the hijab as something hugely oppressive.

[Ninakaran]

I know plenty of Muslim women who don't wear it. I've met Iranian Muslims who move to the West and immediately take their hijab off! haha.

[MissPeach35]

I know many Muslims girls who don't wear it either, including myself.

[Triple7s]

They should not wear it in the US because it is only gonna stir up hate and violence because people see it as them not loving the US

[John_Doesnt]

I understand it's your religion, but I still disagree because it is no different than Catholics oppressing women by forcing nuns to cover their faces.

[MissPeach35]

I can't really speak much about Catholicism because I don't know much about it.

But I clearly stated above the hijab is not forced upon anybody.

[MissPeach35]

But I clearly stated above the hijab is not forced upon anybody, in Islam. People may use Islam as an excuse, to force people to wear the hijab- but in Islam force is not permitted.**

[John_Doesnt]

Nuns aren't forced to wear their head coverings. Muslim women are brainwashed from a young age to think it's a privilege to serve men. It's oppression.

[TripleAce]

Except the ratio of nuns and regular women is really small. Whereas the ratio of head covered Muslim women vs regular is far higher

Clearly
Not the same as nuns. Nuns also live in specific places. Hijab women parade around amongst everyone else

[John_Doesnt]

@TripleAce it's the same thing. Quantity doesn't matter. by the way nuns are degraded just as badly.

[anametouse]

It's just some headpiece that's associated with a religion I care nothing about

[Marti434]

Interesting mytake and I have learnt something new today! thanks!

[MissPeach35]

Thank you :)

[Nadim171]

No, I'm sure you're talking about my question.. but the hijab was pushed by Muhammed in the 7th century to cover women because those who are not covered will be taken as SEX SLAVES. If you take of the hijab you'll be jailed or stonned in Iran.

[MissPeach35]

Okay, please send me your source of wisdom or authority which proves that.

[Nadim171]

You need to follow me so that I can send you private messages.

[MlleCake]

Why? Are you going to find the verses you claim to know that demand it? Because I'm still waiting for you to get me those too.

[Nadim171]

www.answeringmuslims.com/.../...n-of-muhammad.html

[MissPeach35]

Your source of information is blatantly biased. That's all I have to say, and nothing more until you find a source with no agenda.

[Nadim171]

Stop ignoring facts. These are verses from the Quran. Islam's most trusted source.

[MissPeach35]

The way the website is written is wrong. Pulling a few lines out of the Qur'an no context to back it up or anything just- "Oh look- look what it says here, let's just interpret it one way, Islam is is bad."

[Nadim171]

I don't know where the heck you're from but I'm sure as hell that I can read Arabic. It's the same in the Quran. Even in the official website made by muslims It's the same

[MissPeach35]

I am from England.

I've learned the same words can have alternate meanings. That's where people get confused. And you know the Qur'an wasn't originally written in Arabic? It was written in Aramaic, then the language of Arabic became the dominant language in the areas where the Qur'an the revealed, therefore they translated it to Arabic- so there is a chance of mistranslation.

[Nadim171]

Well that's kinda true. It was written in a different form of Arabic. Ancient arabic.
But we still read it as it is in Islamic countries.
And no it's translated so accurately. Go to the official Quran site made by muslims in Google and you'll find the verses as they're written

[MlleCake]

Post a link to the verses.

[MissPeach35]

I'm not saying they aren't as they're written.

I'm saying look beyond what it is at face value.

[Nadim171]

I don't get what you mean

[bootkha02]

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[PrincessGrail]

I never knew this. Thanks.

[MissPeach35]

No problem :)

[MissPeach35]

If you have any questions you can always PM me :)

[esotericstory]

These clothes have no place in our European countries. We are justified in the defense of our culture by making these illegal.

[MissPeach35]

Defence of your culture?
Nobody's forcing this culture upon yours. Are people out there forcing your family members to wear these items of clothing? I didn't think so.

These people are wearing these items of clothing between themselves, what is it to you if they do so?

[esotericstory]

These people apply political pressure on local, provincial and national government in many European countries. We as Europeans have the right to defend our culture through political means equally so as Muslims using the great gifts of free democracies to enforce Shariah and Islamic lifestyle on our children. Its already irreversible, children are forced to pray in Mosques or else they may not graduate. This is unacceptable.

[MissPeach35]

Do you have any idea how paranoid you sound?
I'm born in Europe, I'm not forced to go to a mosque. And nobody is forced to pray in a mosque because that is the reason why people would go to a mosque. To pray. It's a place of worship, why else would you go there?

Where is Shariah law being enforced? Name me one European country in which Muslims have enforced Shariah law. None? Do you want to know why? Because Muslims make up less than 5% of the European population.

[esotericstory]

Muslims are not spread over Europe, they select the countries to migrate to carefully. Top destinations are Germany, France, Britain and Sweden. Muslim population is so high in some regions 1 in 4 children have migration background. Muslims dont move to Poland, Hungary or Croatia because there is no welfare system to support them.

In Netherlands schools have been called out by parents because their children were forced to pray in Mosques. This has happened in Sweden as well.
sceptr.net/.../

joodsactueel.be/.../
It happened in Belgium as well. Jewish media have even covered it.

www.telegraph.co.uk/.../

www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...rts-special-report.html

www.independent.co.uk/.../...s-quran-a8064796.html

Shariah courts in Britain are on the rise and they are systematically removing the democratic legal system of Britain itself. This fact is indisputable and cannot be denied. Shariah law is a reality in Europe. Muslim organizations are pressuring the government at every level, wherever it bends to their will first, Shariah law is introduced.

www.independent.co.uk/.../...verdict-a8154196.html
Shariah law in Germany had literally have to be removed because Muslim gangs/organizations were already implementing it on the streets.

www.politico.eu/.../
Female genital mutilation is on the rise in Britain because its African Black population keeps practicing it on their own children.

[esotericstory]

We have a right to defend our culture period. Islamic influence is not welcome here.

[MissPeach35]

Okay, so you're telling me- 5% can dominate 95%? 5:95 but somehow 5% can do more? 37070000 > 704330000? That's mathematically incorrect.

" Muslims don't move to Poland, Hungary or Croatia because there is no welfare system to support them." No, Muslims don't move to Hungary or Poland because the people are incredibly biased against them. My father went around Europe in his youth, and he told me, one man, physically pulled him off of a tourist bus which stopped at Hungary because the people would be viscously prejudiced against the colour of his skin, let alone his religion.

If Shariah law has overtaken these countries then why isn't in the mainstream media? Your only source seems to be online articles. Why isn't there uproar, if Shariah law had taken over don't you think it'd be important enough to hit mainstream headlines?

May I ask what do you mean by "defend" your culture?

[esotericstory]

The people of Eastern Europe are not biased against Islam, they understand that they are justified in their defense against Islam. Islam has historically repressed the East of Europe tremendously, equally so, Eastern Europe has a history of defending the western part against against Islamic invasions. Hungary was oppressed by Islam for 150 years and over a million Hungarians were killed in that time by the Ottoman empire. Do you think they will let their country be oppressed again? I dont think so. Most European countries dont have open borders policy so migrants are not going to these countries, they are going to the countries with open border policy. 5% Muslim population in Europe will not dominate us, if the population of the countries with open border policy increases, there will be civil war. The Eastern European countries will come to liberate us from Islam because they know how bad it is to live under it.

[MissPeach35]

We're not trying to take over.
You're just paranoid.

In that case, why do British people go to India? India was colonised by Britain do you think Indians liked that? Why don't Indians stop British people from living there?

And if you're so against different clothing from different cultures, and I've seen you be against immigration too- you know what? Only eat your food which was founded in your country. Only wear clothes which are made in your country. Only buy products which are made in your country. And why are you even on G@G if you're against this all? Shouldn't you go on a website which only has people from your country registered?

You can't hate the people, but then wear clothes which they make, eat food which comes from their countries, go on global websites. You don't want them, remember? Protect your culture, no?

[tearout]

its based off the watchers

[MissPeach35]

Sorry?

[tearout]

ill make a post about it tomorrow
so pay attention to the religion section have to get my exp up still

[hangedman]

Go wear it in the middle east, not here.

[killer4212]

I think they'll wear it wherever the fuck they want

[MissPeach35]

I don't wear the hijab, but I'm speaking for those who do and as @killer4212 said they can wear it wherever they like. The clothes you wear are most likely manufactured in another country, so would you leave your country to go wear your clothes there?