I personally don't hate it exactly because I know a family of really kind Muslims, they are very giving and wonderful people. Even though I'm not really a religious person I try to respect people and what they choose to believe. I'm just not a fan of the violence, and I know it's not all of them that are violent - that was proven to me when I got to know that family- but that has definitely been proven to us as of late. It also is kinda oppressive towards women, or at least that's what I've gotten from things I've read on the subject. But I think it's just the radical ones who are that way... I don't know a whole lot about the religion just what I've seen in my friends and things I've read
There is violence and murder in most monotheistic scriptures, not just in the Muslim bible.
Did you know muslim countries had first women speakers for head of state? 😉
ISIS killed more Muslims than anyone else but Muslims on a whole are targeted for what 98% muslims condemn.
I think if we're more opened minded as people and try to understand others and walk in their shoes to get answers, we could do so easily as humans.
Maybe statistics Would help paint a picture farther. There are over 2 billion Muslim people on Earth (maybe some in space, who knows? 😜)... If they really wanted to kill everyone who isn't, it wouldn't actually prove difficult...
Not one Muslim country has imposed war on western countries right? We've knocked on their front doors on each occasion...
It all comes down to bias and level of education 😊. I don't mean academic. I mean more out of the box kindred thinking. I will bake bread and share my meal with anyone so long as their heart is in the right place after all I'm human, the people that look different to me still bleed the same as me when they are cut.
The world is now raising children to discriminate and accept genocide of a certain race and religion of people and political agendas have been doing so throughout history.
This has been seen throughout history repeating itself, but people aren't smart enough to see so unfortunately. Majority get dumbed down with irrelevant ideals..
It's the followers that are idiots causing tension around them plus not to mention the ignorant people who are stuck in their own world and need to get out of their mum's basement AKA need to get out more.
I now live in a country where majority are muslims. Theyve been great to me. Of course there's gonna be assholes but they're everywhere. Dont listen to the media. Take what is good, ignore anything else that's bad.
I sometimes wonder why we can't get along and always gotta find fault in something. Cup half empty thinking mutherfuckers. Fucking whiners.
The explanation in this site includes all the 'out of context' verses, and explains to you their actual context. And if you do not want to read the explanation of some random site, then go yourself to the Quran. com, and read the verses before and after the verse that you took out of context.
It is enough, you've picked on Muslims enough already. They are Human too you know? and they have feelings.
It's because the ummah always imposes supremacist backwards double-standards wherever they grow. Doesn't matter the year or the country they're in.
Kind when weak, oppressive when strong. This is the pattern that the ummah plays out every time. The pattern is strong, consistent, proven, and occurs on an international level.
Just look at the countries where muslims make up either the majority or a growing/significant minority.
All because the majority have let at least some of the personality and teachings of a butt-hurt supremacist two-faced megalomaniac whom they revere as the "Seal of the Prophets" rub off on them.
Every place in the world where Islam followers are with non-Islam followers, there is hate and violence. The track record of Islam is always confrontation and violence. That alone speaks volumes. I've read the Quran, and it states numerous times that it's a Muslims duty to fight and kill infidels. Of course, a Muslim will then respond that I'm reading the wrong Quran, that I should read an 'Arab' Quran, or something like that. It all amounts to hate and Taquia. To me, Islam is deception that comes from satan.
so what? the number of the nazis were Waayyyyyy lower then the number of normal germans. what happend after? the majority was irrelavent! world war 2 broke out and 70 million people died.
yes but there is still dead penalty for apostasy in 9 muslim countries if you follow islam/quran good you are not good human. And there is no liberal in islam you are either muslim or you are not
you are lost believe me you'll try to find yourself but you'll can't do you think now you live fin no my friend you are alive cause Allah want to. say allhamdo lillah and come back to your religion you have made a very bad decision.
It's because of the Muslims who terrorise others for the sake of their religion.
Islam has a long history of it's religion being spread by the sword. Violence and tyranny are two concepts endorsed by many Muslims. While these extremists are a vocal minority, isn't doesn't change the fact many Muslims believe in the radical ideas many extremists are trying to enforce (they don't act on their beliefs however because it's the vocal minority who do act on it).
Many many reasons. Politicians whom generally know next to nothing about islam are generally some of the first to jump at any opportunity to defend it.
Some reasons - religions are based on their founders and Muhammad wasn't exactly ideal. .. - he initiated 67 military campaigns during his life - he personally beheaded people. 500 Jews in one day was his record - he personally traded and captured slaves along with war booty - personally he engaged in pedophilia having sex with a 9 year old when he was 50 - islam embraces polygamy with multiple women - islam cannot live in an advance western civilization very easily. Sharia law is counter to democracy.
I think that Islam moderates are fine people. What scares me is the vocal fringe groups. The ones who use Islam for their own agenda of imposing an authoritarian caphilate. Some statistics don't look good for Islamic majority countries either. I don't think all peolle who follow Islam are bad but I think that those who truly believe in peace love and equality for both men and women, straight and homosexual, Religious or atheist need to reign in their radicals and help them learn to live with those they disagree with.
I'm pretty much against all organised religion. Let the down votes rain. They're all just money making scams. Fair play to Islam though because I know they do donate a lot of money to help the needy. But still, I hate organised religion.
And @BoySittingOnTheMoon you're not really educated enough on the topic are you? All religion is about making money. Marking the rich richer and the poor in line.
Tell me an example about Islam on money scamming? Jizyah on non Muslim adult male where they pay taxes? They used Jizyah tax to strengthen the Islamic empire. Tell me some good example where they use Islam for money scamming.
@BoySittingOnTheMoon jizya is a scam for starters. Believe in my religion or pay me money... oh but it's a religion for peace 🙄 The jizya was created so that Islam could gain money or have an excuse to kill people. Give me money or convert. And if you don't I'll take your children away if you can't pay, which is what they did to poor Hindu's and Christians for years.
Foreign aid to Muslim countries, like Egypt is a form of Jizya. Scam. The entire religion is based around getting money. Just like all religions.
Yes, without money their empire would collapse. Money is needed to strengthen the empire, that's what you got to understand. Also they don't steal children if a non Muslim adult male don't pay Jizyah they will go to jail, it same goes with Muslims who don't pay zakat. In fact, there is a Hadith narration where caliph Abu Bakr fought the Muslims who refused to pay zakat which is compulsory in Islam. Yet there is anti Islam websites that says zakat is optional.
In America, if you don't pay your taxes, you will go to jail. Taxes are really important to contribute the country, this same goes with Islamic society.
In the Hadiths
The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: “He who harms a person under covenant, or charged him more than he can, I will argue against him on the Day of Judgement.”
You probably rely websites like wikiislam and religion of peace 😂😂
I appreciate your views on Islam BLONDE but your opinion of making rich more richer in Islam is totally wrong. Out of all relegions, Islam is the only one which emphasises on not to keep wealth. Why would a Muslim must donate Zakat every year? If he doesn't, he's a big sinner OR may he won't enter heaven
Now let's talk about Jizya. It's kinda tax I admit it but it's not only the money. May b you know about the history better; when Allah asked Prophet SAW, it wasn't only Jizya but two other choices. First to convert into Islam, Second to pay Jizya OR to teach Muslim children. Now if Islam wanted to collect money, why would Allah give them other two options? It proves this order wasn't only for money
Else you'd know Interest and Bribery is totally prohibited in Islam which are the easiest ways to make a rich even more rich and make a poor poorer. There's no space in heaven for a person who takes interest or bribery. Don't blame any relegion without knowing every vain of it; Thanks
@BoySittingOnTheMoon exactly. The empire. Built on money. Thanks for confirming things for me :) no need to add anything else. You just destroyed your own argument.
@Nomi965 then why are lots of Muslims obscenely rich? Dubai is full of rich Muslims 🤔
And yes. A religion of peace. Either give me your money or convert. If you do neither I'll kill you or take your land, your home, your children. You're so indoctrinated it's embarrassing. Jizya is bribery iteself. Complete and utter bribery.
Haha Dubai? They have land full of gold. They have worked for it and earned this place. What you think they've earned that money by taking jizya or something? lol they have been awarded with land full resources bcz our Prophet SAW was born there. We ask Allah for money and HE gives them, that's it.
And about Jizya; that's what conquers must do. Islam gives them choices first, if they do not obey, Islam should show them it's power. probably a sign for conquering an area. And only we take Jizya if money is needed, it never happens always. Like you see there are thousands of Non Muslims in Muslim countries livingstone happily. They don't even want to leave those countries. Islam has rights for minorities more strict than those for Muslims themselves
@Blonde401 You are missing the point without paying taxes then military, healthcare, infrastructure, etc.) would not be provided. This why Jizyah is used.
Dubai is extremely wealthy because the government is investing all the oil profits in infrastructure, tourism, education, and many other businesses. There's a lot of rich people in Dubai because there is 0% taxes.
Yes, some aspects of Islam is backward in modern society, but you are very misinformed by the many points. Always doubt yourself.
@Nomi965 it's a religion of peace though? Conquer and do what I say but it's deffo a religion of peace and not about money? 😂 You're embarrassing yourself by completely backing up my argument with everything you say. Pathetic.
@BoySittingOnTheMoon why should anyone else pay for your religion? Nah son. I'm done arguing with people who've been indoctinated from birth to accept the shit that's constantly poored down your throat. It's embarrassing. Disgusting religion of liars, thrives, murderers, rapists all making money from other people. Absolute joke.
Talking here about this issue is totally lame. I'll pray May Allah keep those cells of ur brains alive in which there's at least 1 percent chance of you to get understand what Islam is actually. Don't worry, you won't go to hell 😃
@Nomi965 knock yourself out. Carry on wasting time and energy on something that doesn't exist and enjoy being disappointed when you realise you've been indoctrinated your whole life. Hell is living a life where you believe the nonsense you're told to keep you in line. But thanks for conceding because you clearly have zero to say that can defend such an abhorrent religion 👌
I wasn't indoctrinated. My family never brought up a topic about Islam and teach me about it. I self taught myself and have better knowledge than the rest of my family. I understand your perspective but you're so bitter you just need to chill out. Just make sure you don't sit on our Qur'an out of anger 😂
@BoySittingOnTheMoon then you're more foolish than you think. Bitter? No son. Woke. If you want to call me bitter go ahead. Bitter about the murders, the rapes, the thefts, the indoctrination done by your religion and others? Yes I am. The earth will never be happy with shit like religion on it to ruin people's lives.
@Nomi965 I'm non religious because I'm educated, not indoctrinated. The one with an empty shell of a mind is those that follow blindly. You're going to kick my ass? 😂 Religion of peace is it? Lol. Reported.
After 9/11, people became scared which has led to ignorance and people believe that all Muslims are terrorist. It's like one bad apple can spoil the bunch. Which is not fair to the Muslim because not all of them are evil. Just like when a white person shoots up a place, we don't say on they are terrorist or bad people, we say they were mentally ill. Truth is they are terrorist on a domestic level.
I'm sorry but no religion is one of peace and tolerance. I think the very basis of every big modern religion is intolerance. But that being said, I don't think Christians have the right to judge Islam as a violent religion when, you know, History.
''I'm sorry but no religion is one of peace and tolerance'' Buddhism? Hinduism? your logic is the equivalent to saying atheists also have no right to judge violent religions due to atheistic communism which has killed more than any religion in the time span of a century.
Your comparison is just stupid sorry. A lot of violence is committed with no religious purpose but that doesn't mean this is 'atheist' violence as atheism is not an organization with dogmas/strict beliefs as religions are. Nobody kills in the name of atheism, which cannot be said about any existing religion.
my comparison isn't stupid at all considering Buddhism or Hinduism doesn't have official teachings. there are even atheist Buddhists and atheists hinduists. This alone contradicts your entire logic of what you just said and is basically, the end of your pointless rants. before you call something stupid, learn the meaning behind the words you search up
and by the way, if you knew the slightest bit of histroy, you would know that stalin killed 20+ million people by executing religious leaders, people of faith, killing people who tried to protect people of faith, burning churches, burning books, and religious statues and replacing all religious info with atheist information ant anti religion
and what makes stalin any different than the so called religious people? specifically, with the examples I gave which by the way, have no strict teachings and are a free religion. with your logic, where does it stop? we can pretty much start lumping any group and just say ''they are violent because this radical did that'' stalin does not represent an atheist so why should bad apples of religion represent the rest? or is it different, because he does not follow religion? that makes no sense. like I said before, atheists also have no right to judge, because of stalin
@imbored2252 religions are a system of dogmas centralized on the figure of one or more gods, so hinduism and buddhism are still religions regardless of how many different ways of practicing them exist. According to your logic Christianism isn't a religion either. If some atheists see buddhism/hinduism as a philosophy rather than a religion good for them, but at the end of the day they're still religions for me and for the overwhelming majority of their followers.
@imbored2252 and I don't know where in my reply you read that Stalin didn't do any of the things you mentioned, I just said that you can't affirm that was done in the name of atheism and I stand by that. Nothing can be done in the name of atheism as the whole point of atheism is that it's not an organized cult, aka religion.
''hinduism and buddhism are still religions regardless of how many different ways of practicing them exist''
again, thats not true. the fact that you have to lie to keep your point alive is just said. there are plenty of atheists whoa re buddhists and hinduists and they are accepted because its a free religion. There is NO official teaching, so it is not mandatory of worship. Its that simple
and no, buddhists who are atheists dont see it as a philosophy. a lot of them follow the full practices but dont believe in a deity. That is the definition of FREE religion. there is no official teaching, therefor people can have unorthodox views
''and I don't know where in my reply you read that Stalin didn't do any of the things you mentioned,''
stalin is an example of someone who pushed atheistic beliefs against religious people. yes, it is an actual belief to be an atheist, oppress religious people and kill them while destroying their culture. you are not exempt from that for simply being an atheist. your imaginary high horse won't work here
@imbored2252 it makes sense because only the fact that there are no official teachings doesn't mean it's not a religion anymore. When you say that you're just plainly ignoring a lot of important and homogeneous aspects of both buddhism and hinduism just so you can prove your point. They're still belief systems that serve the exact same purpose of other belief systems like christianism, judaism and islamism.
@imbored2252 holy shit hahahahah fine!!! Seeing that this is the 3rd time I'm explaining the same thing to you I'm just gonna go ahead and admit that you're right, I'm wrong and a liar.
again, you clearly dont know the meaning behind Buddhism and Hinduism. why are atheists allowed to follow this religion? does it rely on faith? yes, does it have to be a deity? no, have you ever heard of the phrase the ''body is a temple'' whats important is that they find their path or whats called ''nirvana'' which is acknowledged to be different for everyone else. THAT is the main teaching, not what you are spewing. The fact that you have to go to far lengths to twist and lie about a religion that is well established with 1+ billion people is just sad. Even when speaking on chakras there is some scientific outlook on it which has to do with the glands in your body. Others take a materialist approach others take a spiritual approach. its bad to talk on something that you haven't read up on
@Blonde401 you are late and that point was already addressed. it seems like everywhere I go people cannot reason and analyze things. Im muting this. Have fun talking to yourself
A radical jainist is so peaceful they do everything they can to avoid even harming an insect and they bring "turn the other cheek" to a whole new level.
I'll go with @imbored2252 . Hindu isn't a religion also I'm Hindu atheist. I'm pasting a para from same article linked by @HonestGirlAlways
Until the nineteenth century, the word “Hindu” had no specific religious meaning and simply referred to the people who lived east of the Indus River, whatever their beliefs. (The Indian Supreme Court itself has held that “no precise meaning can be ascribed to the terms ‘Hindu’ and ‘Hinduism.’”) It was only when the census introduced by the British colonial authorities in 1871 included Hindu as a religious designation that many Indians began to think of themselves and their country as Hindu.
I don't hate the Islamic religion. What I dislike is that many Muslims told me that my beliefs are wrong (I'm Christian) and some try to convert you to Islam. Shouldn't all religions be tolerant?
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Because they don't believe in freedom of religion. Many Christians in the Middle East can't have religious freedom because in Islam it's a sin to adore someone who is not Mohammad, and to kill anyone who doesn't believe in him. There's no other religion in my book that states that you have to get rid of someone or kill themselves just for someone else and their views.
@iDeathLord they are muslim terrorist every thing they dp is in the name of their god. Even back during the cursades before the second crusades which is the most well known asbhaving the knights templar and stuff like that the nuslims attacked first causing Christians to retaliate.
As for mercy peace abd tolerance. They hate gays and are known for murdering them. There holy book straight up says to kill any infidels (or convert and enslave) women have very little rights etc.
With that said not every muslim is bad but to lie and say the purpose of there religion is peace (they spread peace becauae they beilive peace can only come from there religion) or that terrorist have nothing to do with islam is complete bull. Terrorist murder in the name of there religion thats a fact. That doesn't mean they represent all muslims nut they are still thenselves muslims. Just really fundamental muslims.
Wow. Muslims are not terrorists. Yes, the Qur'an does say to kill non believers, but people of the time had a habit of exaggerating. Just look at the literal translation of the bible! Please people learn your facts before saying racist things like that. ISIS isn't even slightly Muslim. They just use "religion" to justify their actions.
[2.256] There is no compulsion in religion. Righteousness is now distinct from error. He who disbelieves in the idol and believes in Allah has grasped the firmest tie that will never break. Allah is Hearing, Knowing. ... for example, go back in time when the Islam and the Muslims ruled in Andalosia, when Europe was drowning in the dark ages; many Christians moved to Andalosia to learn , educate, live.. Islam is a religion of coexistence and peace. ... your sources are not true. Christians communities practise their rreligion freely and they are protected by the law. I'am from northern Africa and I witnessed on that...
Most are good people. Society takes the actions of a very small minority and use that to represent to entire religion. Even though they don't do that with Christianity, which was responsible for the Holocaust (6 million people killed), Christian Crusades (1-3 million people killed), and the wars around the world between Catholics and Protestants.
I'm Christian, and I can acknowledge that this history exists. No terrorist attack has killed anywhere close to a million people. My best friend is Muslim, and she faces prejudice every day, because people like to pick and choose which parts of history they acknowledge. Why? Because humans are happier when they have someone to hate. It's sick. But that's human nature.
Hitler viewed the church as a way of spreading antisemitism. Most Nazis were Christian, and even if their leader wasn't, he used the religion to his advantage. If you want a more direct connection, then how about Warren Jeffs?
Or do you mean the fact that Islam is responsible for more death than WW1, WW2, The Holocaust, The American Civil war, The Crusades, The salem Witch trials, Stalin and Mao ALL combined?
Or do you mean the bad press of being responsible for the biggest Holocaust in the history of the world? the Muslim Holocaust of the Hindus
or do you mean the bad press from 31 194 deadly terror attacks since 9/11
Or maybe your talking about the bad press from being responsible for the two biggest slave trades in the history of the world, The Barbarie slave trade and the North African slave trade?
That's not the point. There are plenty of passages in the Bible as well which encourage violence. But the point was not to compare the two. My point is that both religions have been responsible for a large number of deaths. But that doesn't mean that the entire religion is bad. It says something about the people who actually do those things. People who are violent by nature and use one religion or another to justify it. They could find justification from in most religions. But they don't represent all other people who practice that religion.
Your first assertion is incorrect. The majority of Germans didn't kill Jews but a minority of Nazis killed over 20 million people in 6 years. White people were enslaved by Arabs but you don't hear BLM preaching about that. by the way Christians never blew themselves and other people up to get to heaven, either. How can you compare the two? I also don't know how Christianity had anything to do with the Holocaust. If you have any links for that info that would be great because I know that I don't know everything!
My point was that the majority of Nazis were Christian. Not that the majority of Christians were Nazis. That would obviously be false. But if you want a source that verifies that most Nazis were Christian, here:
But my whole point was that, just like the terrorist attacks, the violence was performed by a very small percentage of the religion, and therefore does not represent the religion as a whole.
And as for Black Lives Matter, it is a movement centered in America. That's why they don't talk about white people being enslaved. It didn't happen here.
And if you think that all terrorist attacks are caused by Islam, then read this, which claims that for ten out of the past fifteen years, far right extremists have caused more fatalities than Islam.
I'm posting the link in the next comment because it doesn't fit here.
First off, we don't "think" it is the religion of violence and murder, we know that it is. Everywhere Islam goes, there is conflict with other religious groups. Africa, Middle East, India, Southeast Asia, Kashmir, etc. There is only one source of this problem, and that is Islam and it's teachings. Founded by a ruthless pedophile merchant warlord who behaved in typical 7th century fashion. He gouged out the eyes of the Qurayza tribe for their treasure, and this is the religion of peace? It's only peace if you submit to Islamic Imams like a good bitch and obey. Fuck Islam, we see what it has done to Europe and to the rest of the world. It is the embodiment of the dark ages, wrapped up in one stupid, ignorant ideology. Fuck the Quran, Fuck the Hadiths, Fuck your Imams, fuck your fake ass prophet, and fuck everyone stupid enough to follow it.
The four centuries that my Orthodox people endured under the oppressive yoke of the Ottoman Empire is a good start. I will never stop hating the religion that sexually enslaved our women into the harems and has caused our near extinction across the Middle East. Though I will say, learning about how the Middle East was likewise subjugated by the Ottoman Turks has lessened my hatred. Seeing how Arabs also hated the Ottoman Turks and even worked with Lawrence of Arabia to bring them down has caused me to realize that not all Muslims are bad people.
I believe that the most of the hatred (or dislike) is caused by ignorance. People don't know anything about the religion, but rather the radical Islams themselves and as a result assume that is how the religion itself is. Many religions have to deal with this, though, not just Islam, but Islam seems to get more because of the fact that the radicals of said religion are such a concern here. But yeah, I believe it's simply because of ignorance and false teaching from people who do not understand it as a religion.
yeah it's just responsible for more death, more genocide, and more slavery than any other group or ideology in the history of the world and it operates the same way now as it always has..
I think people don't like Islam because it's one of the few actively try converting people, other being Jehovah witnesses for instance. Islam is the only religion which people has been trying to convert me more than 4 times in, making it the most active. At least, in my personal opinion as a french guy.
Occidental civilisations are more and more atheist, following the years. There is still some christians communities, but they are either old, either inactive. We don't hear about them, only casually on politics debate. (Which they shouldn't be asked about, by the way)
Thus Islam is getting a lot of media attention in the occident, and it's just amplifying this little bit of hate people have for strangers.
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I personally don't hate it exactly because I know a family of really kind Muslims, they are very giving and wonderful people. Even though I'm not really a religious person I try to respect people and what they choose to believe. I'm just not a fan of the violence, and I know it's not all of them that are violent - that was proven to me when I got to know that family- but that has definitely been proven to us as of late. It also is kinda oppressive towards women, or at least that's what I've gotten from things I've read on the subject. But I think it's just the radical ones who are that way... I don't know a whole lot about the religion just what I've seen in my friends and things I've read
Hi there,
There is violence and murder in most monotheistic scriptures, not just in the Muslim bible.
Did you know muslim countries had first women speakers for head of state? 😉
ISIS killed more Muslims than anyone else but Muslims on a whole are targeted for what 98% muslims condemn.
I think if we're more opened minded as people and try to understand others and walk in their shoes to get answers, we could do so easily as humans.
Maybe statistics Would help paint a picture farther. There are over 2 billion Muslim people on Earth (maybe some in space, who knows? 😜)... If they really wanted to kill everyone who isn't, it wouldn't actually prove difficult...
Not one Muslim country has imposed war on western countries right? We've knocked on their front doors on each occasion...
It all comes down to bias and level of education 😊.
I don't mean academic. I mean more out of the box kindred thinking.
I will bake bread and share my meal with anyone so long as their heart is in the right place after all I'm human, the people that look different to me still bleed the same as me when they are cut.
The world is now raising children to discriminate and accept genocide of a certain race and religion of people and political agendas have been doing so throughout history.
This has been seen throughout history repeating itself, but people aren't smart enough to see so unfortunately.
Majority get dumbed down with irrelevant ideals..
tried to keep it light as possible chica 😊👍
Ok 👌
lol apologies again for the mini thesis. Thanks for bearing with it 😉
As an atheist, I like Islam, Christianity, etc.
It's the followers that are idiots causing tension around them plus not to mention the ignorant people who are stuck in their own world and need to get out of their mum's basement AKA need to get out more.
I now live in a country where majority are muslims. Theyve been great to me. Of course there's gonna be assholes but they're everywhere. Dont listen to the media. Take what is good, ignore anything else that's bad.
I sometimes wonder why we can't get along and always gotta find fault in something. Cup half empty thinking mutherfuckers. Fucking whiners.
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All those comments of people misunderstanding the religion so much and posting verses blindly and completely out of context...
Please... just educate yourselves for once and read: www.islamicity.org/.../
The explanation in this site includes all the 'out of context' verses, and explains to you their actual context. And if you do not want to read the explanation of some random site, then go yourself to the Quran. com, and read the verses before and after the verse that you took out of context.
It is enough, you've picked on Muslims enough already. They are Human too you know? and they have feelings.
For me it's not because of violence.
It's because the ummah always imposes supremacist backwards double-standards wherever they grow. Doesn't matter the year or the country they're in.
Kind when weak, oppressive when strong. This is the pattern that the ummah plays out every time. The pattern is strong, consistent, proven, and occurs on an international level.
Just look at the countries where muslims make up either the majority or a growing/significant minority.
All because the majority have let at least some of the personality and teachings of a butt-hurt supremacist two-faced megalomaniac whom they revere as the "Seal of the Prophets" rub off on them.
Every place in the world where Islam followers are with non-Islam followers, there is hate and violence. The track record of Islam is always confrontation and violence. That alone speaks volumes. I've read the Quran, and it states numerous times that it's a Muslims duty to fight and kill infidels. Of course, a Muslim will then respond that I'm reading the wrong Quran, that I should read an 'Arab' Quran, or something like that. It all amounts to hate and Taquia. To me, Islam is deception that comes from satan.
Because of the few guys that distort islam and yet call themselves muslims...
by the way I respect muslims...
But that is the biggest reason I believe.
you're right they try to distract the image of Islam because you respect Islam I advice you to search more bro about it you will like it trust me
15 to 20% of the muslim are extremist/radical 200-300 million ~ that is not a small number its as big as the united states of america.
well... but the other number is bigger no, @TheNotorious?
And yes I have delved a bit in Islam because my boyfriend is muslim so I like to be informed.
But Im Christian @Asker
oh you're moroccan too, like my boyfriend lol
I see :o
dont act like you dont know me and i dont understand your question
I was talking to asker... @TheNotorious
he's moroccan too XD chill!
and i meant the number of non-radicals is bigger than the radicals...
so what? the number of the nazis were Waayyyyyy lower then the number of normal germans. what happend after? the majority was irrelavent! world war 2 broke out and 70 million people died.
O___O
oook... just saying most muslims are peaceful
what about Hiroshima lot of explosions come from other countries
yes but there is still dead penalty for apostasy in 9 muslim countries if you follow islam/quran good you are not good human. And there is no liberal in islam you are either muslim or you are not
@Salmane_Elhardi im in morocco right now lol
@Salmane_Elhardi not in the name of religion muslims say allahu akbar (god is great) before they explode.
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i will not say for my own safety, sorry.
you are lost believe me you'll try to find yourself but you'll can't do you think now you live fin no my friend you are alive cause Allah want to. say allhamdo lillah and come back to your religion you have made a very bad decision.
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It's because of the Muslims who terrorise others for the sake of their religion.
Islam has a long history of it's religion being spread by the sword. Violence and tyranny are two concepts endorsed by many Muslims. While these extremists are a vocal minority, isn't doesn't change the fact many Muslims believe in the radical ideas many extremists are trying to enforce (they don't act on their beliefs however because it's the vocal minority who do act on it).
Many many reasons. Politicians whom generally know next to nothing about islam are generally some of the first to jump at any opportunity to defend it.
Some reasons
- religions are based on their founders and Muhammad wasn't exactly ideal. ..
- he initiated 67 military campaigns during his life
- he personally beheaded people. 500 Jews in one day was his record
- he personally traded and captured slaves along with war booty
- personally he engaged in pedophilia having sex with a 9 year old when he was 50
- islam embraces polygamy with multiple women
- islam cannot live in an advance western civilization very easily. Sharia law is counter to democracy.
I think that Islam moderates are fine people. What scares me is the vocal fringe groups. The ones who use Islam for their own agenda of imposing an authoritarian caphilate. Some statistics don't look good for Islamic majority countries either. I don't think all peolle who follow Islam are bad but I think that those who truly believe in peace love and equality for both men and women, straight and homosexual, Religious or atheist need to reign in their radicals and help them learn to live with those they disagree with.
I'm pretty much against all organised religion. Let the down votes rain. They're all just money making scams. Fair play to Islam though because I know they do donate a lot of money to help the needy. But still, I hate organised religion.
just search more about it you're close to the answers
Money scanning? How so? Islam doesn't have a central authority.
scamming*
No thanks.
And @BoySittingOnTheMoon you're not really educated enough on the topic are you? All religion is about making money. Marking the rich richer and the poor in line.
Tell me an example about Islam on money scamming? Jizyah on non Muslim adult male where they pay taxes? They used Jizyah tax to strengthen the Islamic empire. Tell me some good example where they use Islam for money scamming.
@BoySittingOnTheMoon jizya is a scam for starters. Believe in my religion or pay me money... oh but it's a religion for peace 🙄 The jizya was created so that Islam could gain money or have an excuse to kill people. Give me money or convert. And if you don't I'll take your children away if you can't pay, which is what they did to poor Hindu's and Christians for years.
Foreign aid to Muslim countries, like Egypt is a form of Jizya. Scam. The entire religion is based around getting money. Just like all religions.
Yes, without money their empire would collapse. Money is needed to strengthen the empire, that's what you got to understand. Also they don't steal children if a non Muslim adult male don't pay Jizyah they will go to jail, it same goes with Muslims who don't pay zakat. In fact, there is a Hadith narration where caliph Abu Bakr fought the Muslims who refused to pay zakat which is compulsory in Islam. Yet there is anti Islam websites that says zakat is optional.
In America, if you don't pay your taxes, you will go to jail. Taxes are really important to contribute the country, this same goes with Islamic society.
In the Hadiths
The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: “He who harms a person under covenant, or charged him more than he can, I will argue against him on the Day of Judgement.”
You probably rely websites like wikiislam and religion of peace 😂😂
I appreciate your views on Islam BLONDE but your opinion of making rich more richer in Islam is totally wrong. Out of all relegions, Islam is the only one which emphasises on not to keep wealth. Why would a Muslim must donate Zakat every year? If he doesn't, he's a big sinner OR may he won't enter heaven
Now let's talk about Jizya. It's kinda tax I admit it but it's not only the money. May b you know about the history better; when Allah asked Prophet SAW, it wasn't only Jizya but two other choices. First to convert into Islam, Second to pay Jizya OR to teach Muslim children. Now if Islam wanted to collect money, why would Allah give them other two options? It proves this order wasn't only for money
Else you'd know Interest and Bribery is totally prohibited in Islam which are the easiest ways to make a rich even more rich and make a poor poorer. There's no space in heaven for a person who takes interest or bribery. Don't blame any relegion without knowing every vain of it; Thanks
@BoySittingOnTheMoon exactly. The empire. Built on money. Thanks for confirming things for me :) no need to add anything else. You just destroyed your own argument.
@Nomi965 then why are lots of Muslims obscenely rich? Dubai is full of rich Muslims 🤔
And yes. A religion of peace. Either give me your money or convert. If you do neither I'll kill you or take your land, your home, your children. You're so indoctrinated it's embarrassing. Jizya is bribery iteself. Complete and utter bribery.
Haha Dubai? They have land full of gold. They have worked for it and earned this place. What you think they've earned that money by taking jizya or something? lol they have been awarded with land full resources bcz our Prophet SAW was born there. We ask Allah for money and HE gives them, that's it.
And about Jizya; that's what conquers must do. Islam gives them choices first, if they do not obey, Islam should show them it's power. probably a sign for conquering an area. And only we take Jizya if money is needed, it never happens always. Like you see there are thousands of Non Muslims in Muslim countries livingstone happily. They don't even want to leave those countries. Islam has rights for minorities more strict than those for Muslims themselves
@Blonde401 You are missing the point without paying taxes then military, healthcare, infrastructure, etc.) would not be provided. This why Jizyah is used.
Dubai is extremely wealthy because the government is investing all the oil profits in infrastructure, tourism, education, and many other businesses. There's a lot of rich people in Dubai because there is 0% taxes.
Yes, some aspects of Islam is backward in modern society, but you are very misinformed by the many points. Always doubt yourself.
@Nomi965 it's a religion of peace though? Conquer and do what I say but it's deffo a religion of peace and not about money? 😂 You're embarrassing yourself by completely backing up my argument with everything you say. Pathetic.
@BoySittingOnTheMoon why should anyone else pay for your religion? Nah son. I'm done arguing with people who've been indoctinated from birth to accept the shit that's constantly poored down your throat. It's embarrassing. Disgusting religion of liars, thrives, murderers, rapists all making money from other people. Absolute joke.
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*theives.
Talking here about this issue is totally lame. I'll pray May Allah keep those cells of ur brains alive in which there's at least 1 percent chance of you to get understand what Islam is actually. Don't worry, you won't go to hell 😃
@Nomi965 knock yourself out. Carry on wasting time and energy on something that doesn't exist and enjoy being disappointed when you realise you've been indoctrinated your whole life. Hell is living a life where you believe the nonsense you're told to keep you in line. But thanks for conceding because you clearly have zero to say that can defend such an abhorrent religion 👌
I wasn't indoctrinated. My family never brought up a topic about Islam and teach me about it. I self taught myself and have better knowledge than the rest of my family. I understand your perspective but you're so bitter you just need to chill out. Just make sure you don't sit on our Qur'an out of anger 😂
@BoySittingOnTheMoon then you're more foolish than you think. Bitter? No son. Woke. If you want to call me bitter go ahead. Bitter about the murders, the rapes, the thefts, the indoctrination done by your religion and others? Yes I am. The earth will never be happy with shit like religion on it to ruin people's lives.
@Nomi965 I'm non religious because I'm educated, not indoctrinated. The one with an empty shell of a mind is those that follow blindly. You're going to kick my ass? 😂 Religion of peace is it? Lol. Reported.
After 9/11, people became scared which has led to ignorance and people believe that all Muslims are terrorist. It's like one bad apple can spoil the bunch. Which is not fair to the Muslim because not all of them are evil. Just like when a white person shoots up a place, we don't say on they are terrorist or bad people, we say they were mentally ill. Truth is they are terrorist on a domestic level.
I'm sorry but no religion is one of peace and tolerance. I think the very basis of every big modern religion is intolerance. But that being said, I don't think Christians have the right to judge Islam as a violent religion when, you know, History.
''I'm sorry but no religion is one of peace and tolerance'' Buddhism? Hinduism? your logic is the equivalent to saying atheists also have no right to judge violent religions due to atheistic communism which has killed more than any religion in the time span of a century.
@imbored2252 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence
www.hudson.org/research/4575-hinduism-and-terror
Your comparison is just stupid sorry. A lot of violence is committed with no religious purpose but that doesn't mean this is 'atheist' violence as atheism is not an organization with dogmas/strict beliefs as religions are. Nobody kills in the name of atheism, which cannot be said about any existing religion.
my comparison isn't stupid at all considering Buddhism or Hinduism doesn't have official teachings. there are even atheist Buddhists and atheists hinduists. This alone contradicts your entire logic of what you just said and is basically, the end of your pointless rants. before you call something stupid, learn the meaning behind the words you search up
and by the way, if you knew the slightest bit of histroy, you would know that stalin killed 20+ million people by executing religious leaders, people of faith, killing people who tried to protect people of faith, burning churches, burning books, and religious statues and replacing all religious info with atheist information ant anti religion
and what makes stalin any different than the so called religious people? specifically, with the examples I gave which by the way, have no strict teachings and are a free religion. with your logic, where does it stop? we can pretty much start lumping any group and just say ''they are violent because this radical did that'' stalin does not represent an atheist so why should bad apples of religion represent the rest? or is it different, because he does not follow religion? that makes no sense. like I said before, atheists also have no right to judge, because of stalin
@imbored2252 religions are a system of dogmas centralized on the figure of one or more gods, so hinduism and buddhism are still religions regardless of how many different ways of practicing them exist. According to your logic Christianism isn't a religion either. If some atheists see buddhism/hinduism as a philosophy rather than a religion good for them, but at the end of the day they're still religions for me and for the overwhelming majority of their followers.
@imbored2252 and I don't know where in my reply you read that Stalin didn't do any of the things you mentioned, I just said that you can't affirm that was done in the name of atheism and I stand by that. Nothing can be done in the name of atheism as the whole point of atheism is that it's not an organized cult, aka religion.
''hinduism and buddhism are still religions regardless of how many different ways of practicing them exist''
again, thats not true. the fact that you have to lie to keep your point alive is just said. there are plenty of atheists whoa re buddhists and hinduists and they are accepted because its a free religion. There is NO official teaching, so it is not mandatory of worship. Its that simple
''According to your logic Christianism isn't a religion either.''
that made no sense.
and no, buddhists who are atheists dont see it as a philosophy. a lot of them follow the full practices but dont believe in a deity. That is the definition of FREE religion. there is no official teaching, therefor people can have unorthodox views
''and I don't know where in my reply you read that Stalin didn't do any of the things you mentioned,''
stalin is an example of someone who pushed atheistic beliefs against religious people. yes, it is an actual belief to be an atheist, oppress religious people and kill them while destroying their culture. you are not exempt from that for simply being an atheist. your imaginary high horse won't work here
@imbored2252 it makes sense because only the fact that there are no official teachings doesn't mean it's not a religion anymore. When you say that you're just plainly ignoring a lot of important and homogeneous aspects of both buddhism and hinduism just so you can prove your point. They're still belief systems that serve the exact same purpose of other belief systems like christianism, judaism and islamism.
@imbored2252 holy shit hahahahah fine!!! Seeing that this is the 3rd time I'm explaining the same thing to you I'm just gonna go ahead and admit that you're right, I'm wrong and a liar.
again, you clearly dont know the meaning behind Buddhism and Hinduism. why are atheists allowed to follow this religion? does it rely on faith? yes, does it have to be a deity? no, have you ever heard of the phrase the ''body is a temple'' whats important is that they find their path or whats called ''nirvana'' which is acknowledged to be different for everyone else. THAT is the main teaching, not what you are spewing. The fact that you have to go to far lengths to twist and lie about a religion that is well established with 1+ billion people is just sad. Even when speaking on chakras there is some scientific outlook on it which has to do with the glands in your body. Others take a materialist approach others take a spiritual approach. its bad to talk on something that you haven't read up on
you are explaining twisted logic, you an repeat it a forth time, it still does not make your imaginary high horse real
I hate to cite Wikipedia but it saves me a job: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence
@Blonde401 you are late and that point was already addressed. it seems like everywhere I go people cannot reason and analyze things. Im muting this. Have fun talking to yourself
@imbored2252 🙄 Sorry. Don't start an argument if you can't handle the heat.
Jainism is actually the Religion of peace.
A radical jainist is so peaceful they do everything they can to avoid even harming an insect and they bring "turn the other cheek" to a whole new level.
I'll go with @imbored2252 . Hindu isn't a religion also I'm Hindu atheist. I'm pasting a para from same article linked by @HonestGirlAlways
Until the nineteenth century, the word “Hindu” had no specific religious meaning and simply referred to the people who lived east of the Indus River, whatever their beliefs. (The Indian Supreme Court itself has held that “no precise meaning can be ascribed to the terms ‘Hindu’ and ‘Hinduism.’”) It was only when the census introduced by the British colonial authorities in 1871 included Hindu as a religious designation that many Indians began to think of themselves and their country as Hindu.
I don't hate the Islamic religion. What I dislike is that many Muslims told me that my beliefs are wrong (I'm Christian) and some try to convert you to Islam. Shouldn't all religions be tolerant?
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Because they don't believe in freedom of religion. Many Christians in the Middle East can't have religious freedom because in Islam it's a sin to adore someone who is not Mohammad, and to kill anyone who doesn't believe in him. There's no other religion in my book that states that you have to get rid of someone or kill themselves just for someone else and their views.
no its not.. who do that is called terrorist..
"Muslims" of the Middle East dont even let other Muslims live in peace. :3
like i said... they are not muslims they are not even relatedto islam they are just TERRORIST !
@iDeathLord they are muslim terrorist every thing they dp is in the name of their god. Even back during the cursades before the second crusades which is the most well known asbhaving the knights templar and stuff like that the nuslims attacked first causing Christians to retaliate.
As for mercy peace abd tolerance. They hate gays and are known for murdering them. There holy book straight up says to kill any infidels (or convert and enslave) women have very little rights etc.
With that said not every muslim is bad but to lie and say the purpose of there religion is peace (they spread peace becauae they beilive peace can only come from there religion) or that terrorist have nothing to do with islam is complete bull. Terrorist murder in the name of there religion thats a fact. That doesn't mean they represent all muslims nut they are still thenselves muslims. Just really fundamental muslims.
Wow. Muslims are not terrorists. Yes, the Qur'an does say to kill non believers, but people of the time had a habit of exaggerating. Just look at the literal translation of the bible! Please people learn your facts before saying racist things like that. ISIS isn't even slightly Muslim. They just use "religion" to justify their actions.
[2.256] There is no compulsion in religion. Righteousness is now distinct from error. He who disbelieves in the idol and believes in Allah has grasped the firmest tie that will never break. Allah is Hearing, Knowing.
... for example, go back in time when the Islam and the Muslims ruled in Andalosia, when Europe was drowning in the dark ages; many Christians moved to Andalosia to learn , educate, live.. Islam is a religion of coexistence and peace.
... your sources are not true. Christians communities practise their rreligion freely and they are protected by the law. I'am from northern Africa and I witnessed on that...
Thanks @Youcef. That proves my point. I couldn't have been bothered to do that!
Most are good people. Society takes the actions of a very small minority and use that to represent to entire religion. Even though they don't do that with Christianity, which was responsible for the Holocaust (6 million people killed), Christian Crusades (1-3 million people killed), and the wars around the world between Catholics and Protestants.
I'm Christian, and I can acknowledge that this history exists. No terrorist attack has killed anywhere close to a million people. My best friend is Muslim, and she faces prejudice every day, because people like to pick and choose which parts of history they acknowledge. Why? Because humans are happier when they have someone to hate. It's sick. But that's human nature.
The holocaust had absolutely zero religious background.
Hitler viewed the church as a way of spreading antisemitism. Most Nazis were Christian, and even if their leader wasn't, he used the religion to his advantage. If you want a more direct connection, then how about Warren Jeffs?
like this kind of press?
www.thereligionofpeace.com/.../WWMD.aspx
Or do you mean the fact that Islam is responsible for more death than WW1, WW2, The Holocaust, The American Civil war, The Crusades, The salem Witch trials, Stalin and Mao ALL combined?
Or do you mean the bad press of being responsible for the biggest Holocaust in the history of the world? the Muslim Holocaust of the Hindus
or do you mean the bad press from 31 194 deadly terror attacks since 9/11
Or maybe your talking about the bad press from being responsible for the two biggest slave trades in the history of the world, The Barbarie slave trade and the North African slave trade?
That's not the point. There are plenty of passages in the Bible as well which encourage violence. But the point was not to compare the two. My point is that both religions have been responsible for a large number of deaths. But that doesn't mean that the entire religion is bad. It says something about the people who actually do those things. People who are violent by nature and use one religion or another to justify it. They could find justification from in most religions. But they don't represent all other people who practice that religion.
Your first assertion is incorrect. The majority of Germans didn't kill Jews but a minority of Nazis killed over 20 million people in 6 years. White people were enslaved by Arabs but you don't hear BLM preaching about that. by the way Christians never blew themselves and other people up to get to heaven, either. How can you compare the two? I also don't know how Christianity had anything to do with the Holocaust. If you have any links for that info that would be great because I know that I don't know everything!
My point was that the majority of Nazis were Christian. Not that the majority of Christians were Nazis. That would obviously be false. But if you want a source that verifies that most Nazis were Christian, here:
www.google.com/.../
But my whole point was that, just like the terrorist attacks, the violence was performed by a very small percentage of the religion, and therefore does not represent the religion as a whole.
And as for Black Lives Matter, it is a movement centered in America. That's why they don't talk about white people being enslaved. It didn't happen here.
And if you think that all terrorist attacks are caused by Islam, then read this, which claims that for ten out of the past fifteen years, far right extremists have caused more fatalities than Islam.
I'm posting the link in the next comment because it doesn't fit here.
www.google.com/.../...-clear-danger-to-us-all.html
And as for passages in the Bible that encourage violence, here you are.
www.telegraph.co.uk/.../...rst-Bible-passages.html
And this.
www.npr.org/.../story.php?storyId=124494788
First off, we don't "think" it is the religion of violence and murder, we know that it is. Everywhere Islam goes, there is conflict with other religious groups. Africa, Middle East, India, Southeast Asia, Kashmir, etc. There is only one source of this problem, and that is Islam and it's teachings. Founded by a ruthless pedophile merchant warlord who behaved in typical 7th century fashion. He gouged out the eyes of the Qurayza tribe for their treasure, and this is the religion of peace? It's only peace if you submit to Islamic Imams like a good bitch and obey. Fuck Islam, we see what it has done to Europe and to the rest of the world. It is the embodiment of the dark ages, wrapped up in one stupid, ignorant ideology. Fuck the Quran, Fuck the Hadiths, Fuck your Imams, fuck your fake ass prophet, and fuck everyone stupid enough to follow it.
The four centuries that my Orthodox people endured under the oppressive yoke of the Ottoman Empire is a good start. I will never stop hating the religion that sexually enslaved our women into the harems and has caused our near extinction across the Middle East. Though I will say, learning about how the Middle East was likewise subjugated by the Ottoman Turks has lessened my hatred. Seeing how Arabs also hated the Ottoman Turks and even worked with Lawrence of Arabia to bring them down has caused me to realize that not all Muslims are bad people.
I believe that the most of the hatred (or dislike) is caused by ignorance. People don't know anything about the religion, but rather the radical Islams themselves and as a result assume that is how the religion itself is. Many religions have to deal with this, though, not just Islam, but Islam seems to get more because of the fact that the radicals of said religion are such a concern here. But yeah, I believe it's simply because of ignorance and false teaching from people who do not understand it as a religion.
yeah it's just responsible for more death, more genocide, and more slavery than any other group or ideology in the history of the world and it operates the same way now as it always has..
But nothing to be concerned about...
I think people don't like Islam because it's one of the few actively try converting people, other being Jehovah witnesses for instance. Islam is the only religion which people has been trying to convert me more than 4 times in, making it the most active. At least, in my personal opinion as a french guy.
Occidental civilisations are more and more atheist, following the years. There is still some christians communities, but they are either old, either inactive.
We don't hear about them, only casually on politics debate. (Which they shouldn't be asked about, by the way)
Thus Islam is getting a lot of media attention in the occident, and it's just amplifying this little bit of hate people have for strangers.
good speech thanks for your opinion.