The concept of synesthesia is something that I have been grappling with in my mind for a very long time. However, I didn’t know there was a word for it. My friends and family have pointed out to me over the years that I have a strange ability to remember otherwise mundane things from the past that people who have experienced it with me have forgotten. I remember these things because when I was in the moment taking it in with my senses (seeing, hearing, touch, and or smell) I experienced an incredible sense of emotion (mad, sad, or happy, etc...) in that moment. Although I am by no means a math genius I am very gifted with language and vocabulary (top 2% nationally). Maybe synesthesia assists with the ability to form memories? This of course assists intelligence. Just a thought...
Having a high IQ really makes you capable of perceiving and understanding things much more faster, but then there is the emotional intelligence that doesn't haves to do anything whit the IQ as we know it. In other words you can be a genius and be emotionally unstable therefore unhappy or you can have an average IQ and be happy as a smiley. I am not saying you can't have an high IQ and be happy, I am just saying everyone haves something special, you surely do, and I hope you use that high IQ for good. I remember when I was helping out a person whit MR whit a poem, that day I realized that all of us play an important role in life. People whit MR may not contribute to any intellectual field but spiritually and emotionally they have kept that innocence that makes them much more better human beings than those who despite their high IQ have done horrible things.
Yes. Some of histories greatest villains were highly intelligent, and some of the greatest heros were not. Intelligence doesn't make you a better person, it just makes you better at certain things
Omg... Thank you as a long time member of Mensa I applaud you... And the things you have written are so true... life is not so easy for us we tend to fade into the shadows and not because we are ugly and unattractive. More times than not it is for fear of being judged a know it all or bullshitter... My ex said I explained everything , dicected every little thing (untrue ) she never understood how I could read 6 books at a time on all subjects , or why... I get frustrated a lot because people spout opinions or hearsay as fact without really knowing, or misuse the English language... I get bothered when people cannot grasp even simple concepts or facts... I speak 6 languages fluently and am learning 2 at the moment , I play music , I draw , paint, write poetry, build custom cars and bikes. I invent things I like to solve puzzles and nothing that interest me escapes my attention... So when I saw this I had to chime in... thank you my very wise friend ...
Wow, someone in Mensa actually commented on my post! I've been wondering if I should take one of the tests to try and get into Mensa, but I don't know if I'd get in
Honey bunny you missed the point. And it was directed at our Asker not you. If he found out he wasn't in Mensa that would really be a downer to his ego. You have figured out now
If that is true and I have no reason to believe that it's not (well I do but the next sentence will clarify) then I urge you to limit your broadcasting of how gifted you are. It's not a good sign. That is one of the reasons why I urged you attempted mission to one of the high-powered schools which deflate any ego you may have. I believe I mentioned it previously but I was the hottest shit around, in my head, until I went to a school where everyone was the hottest shit around. And please don't tell me you've been around hot shits so you know the feeling. Believe me you don't know the feeling. When you sit in a 60 person class the title of which is advanced linear algebra and every body has taken that course are again already in high school or something like that you realize that in order to stand out in that class you will have to construct a rocketship that goes to another galaxy in order to gain fame
@KissMeKissYou well I'm going to tell you anyway. I've been in a room full of kids like that. I went to a camp with 400 of us, in a class of 12 studying astrophysics. I was nowhere near the smartest kid, but it was still immensely enjoyable.
I do not tell people how smart I am. that's why I posted anon. I do not wish the spotlights to be on me but rather on the worlds more pressing problems. And they are defeating fear, education, communication and many many more... I am searching for knowledge to help myself be the best me I can be , and maybe help or inspire others as well as grow as a human being?
i feel like this girl is backing up the "hey if you said you were good at sports we wouldn't say shit but intelligence, we must tell you to take down you "ego""
Nah I think she is saying we are under appreciated and misunderstood, as someone with a ridiculous high IQ expectations are high and people are insecure about someone who may actually smart... I understand it is difficult because people judge you before they know the heart within I believe her intent is to protect you... and as someone who is a seeker of knowledge there is no competition except ones self... be the inner self and you will be content... be well
I am in the gifted range. I mentioned it once in response to a question about criteria for dating and I got excoriated for "bragging" and thinking I am better than everyone else. They just don't understand, perhaps because they are jealous and resentful.
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I understand some of these but I don't classify myself as gifted, although I was classified as gifted in math in the 7th grade. However, I consider myself better in English as I've always had to choose my use of diction because most of people don't know what I'm saying when I speak normally , to everyone else it is "big words." I definetly understand the frustrated part , made me hate working in groups because I felt bad telling group members they were wrong about most things. I typically have to steer the conversation so they somehow come out to the right conclusion. On the bright side , I gained astounding social skills. I have those moments in class a lot where I pick up something and everyone else genuinely doesn't understand. It baffles me at times. I'm not on your level of genuis but I can relate to some of these things.
intelligence is so many things it can be booksmart it can also be when one is artistic i always got bullied my entire life, and i had no self esteem, it was because people were jealous it turned out. i was too smart for my age. yet my test grades were sub par, i was unpopular, not attractive, i was a failure. funnily enough i am gifted, but stress and emotional trauma hold me back even to this day
not everyone with bad grades is stupid, not everyone is gifted
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Some of this was similar to my experience. I think the main difference is your desire to explain things to other people, to relate to them intellectually. That doesn't work with most folks. You have to learn to speak their language because they are not going to learn yours. It's a matter of being emotionally aware, of figuring out what makes people tick. Compensate by constructing an intellectual understanding of it if your emotional IQ is low.
The only problem I really had in school is when teachers would look at my standardized test scores, freak out and start treating me differently from other kids. The other kids would notice and the trouble would start. Otherwise i blended in just fine and tuned my conversation to a pitch whoever I was talking to could hear.
Great take. I definitely can relate. People think I'm a genius or something, I just go "no, there's a limit to my knowledge, I just haven't found it yet" (keep in mind I do this with a straight face).
I agree with @jacquesvol in "problems for gifted.." Just look at Einstein, Beethoven, etc. I could have done better in school / college, but didn't because I was bored. I think one professor gave me an "A-" so that I wouldn't be in his class again (he was the only one teaching that required class at the time).
And yes, I'm an introvert with 3 of the 4 "dominant personality types."
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It more or less is all good I have a maths degree and I can program to a degree. But I'm most definitely not gifted I have a great long term memory especially for images a highly selective short term memory that over all isn't that good. It seems to forget what people with certain types of voices have said quite easily. I'm dyslexic which makes it take longer for me to get the information I need, though I do read a lot online even if I'm still slower than most people. My visualization is good I can visualize 3D and even some simple 4D models In my head this came in handy for visualising many of the problems and still does to keep track of what a big block of code are doing. I have strengths and weaknesses but overall I'm fairly average.
I think you are hanging with the wrong crowd. I always thought so. I always had deep understanding of things which even adults could not understand. Then, I went to college and found similiar people who did understand. Its just life. It'll get better.
Seems like people will only think someone is intelligent if they are book smart. :(
Knowing you are gifted and above intelligent is a billion times better than having a mental disorder and struggle to remember anything, along with learning some things slower.
Still interesting take but I'll admit it bummed me out greatly. Nothing you said, just my own personal issue.
THIS is SOOOOOO true! "One of the problems gifted pupils face is that they're so much in advance at school that they're less interested in studying, may become lazy or... Then they fail despite being gifted. Gifted pupils have it too easy in a school system and that can be a disadvantage."
I know! I'm homeschooled, and plan to stay that way until college, because I think I'd fail immediately if I went to public high school because I'm two grades ahead, and I would be too bored to study
I'm classified as gifted myself, and I agree with part of this. When I was younger, a lot of this was true. Then I grew up and around the age of 20 began to realize not everyone thinks the same. It really has nothing to do with you being gifted. It's more about how conscious you are about the world around you. If a person is an adult and still living like everything that's obvious to them must be obvious to everyone else means they still need to learn a little bit about the world.
You're still at the beginning of the road. My advice from one gifted to another, make sure you have a boyfriend and a satisfactory social life before you hit my age. That instinct forcing us to be social is always there, and it causes problems in university if you ignore it in high school.
It's bit exhausting and causes alienation. That's what I would say.
I came to realise that I get along with strangers better, because I don't know them. Whenever I'm having a talk with someone I know, my mind just gets tapped by too much things about them, I easily get angry or bored.
I know that I'm smart. You can't get A's in classes like Microeconomics, Microeconomics, Business Calculus, a B+ in Business Law, and a B in Physics without having brains. However, I also have street smarts and social skills. I volunteered at many places before, belong to a horse club, and worked on a championship basketball team staff before. I can say that I'm anerd, but unlike most nerds I'm not just book smart. You need social skills, book smart, and street smarts to be successful. Good take
I agree, especially on point 6. If you're an intellectually gifted, abstract-minded person (especially the MBTI INxx types), people tend to see you as either an unreachable intellect or as a borderline Forrest Gump. There is no in-between. I have some older relatives who ask for my analysis on world affairs, and others who offer to help me read the lyrics in the church hymnal. It's as strange as it is maddening.
"Here's a fact most people here don't know about me: I'm what most people refer to as "highly gifted.""
lol, you might wanna try coming off a bit more humble next time
The difference between smart people and dumb people is motivation. Everyone is smart at the things they want to be smart at. If you actually try, you will do well and your understanding and capabilities in a certain subject/practice will increase.
When you talk about having to explain pulsars to your peers, what was probably happening was that they didn't care much about your presentation, so they didn't harness the mental energy needed to understand it.
I can't say I agree with that. My sister likes doing history and math, but she's not very good at it. She tries, I see her everyday trying, but she's just not good at it. However, grammar, her least favorite subject, is probably her best
I used to be smart... But then I think I started doing a lot of drugs... I know a bunch of facts, like I can tell you all about history and the molecules in a cell, but that doesn't always come in handy in real life...
I could never build a masonry wall up to code, while I'm sure a bunch of Mexicans could do it no problem...
And knowing the history of the Ottoman Empire has nothing to do with people skills, getting laid, or even making money if you're not a history teacher...
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The concept of synesthesia is something that I have been grappling with in my mind for a very long time. However, I didn’t know there was a word for it. My friends and family have pointed out to me over the years that I have a strange ability to remember otherwise mundane things from the past that people who have experienced it with me have forgotten. I remember these things because when I was in the moment taking it in with my senses (seeing, hearing, touch, and or smell) I experienced an incredible sense of emotion (mad, sad, or happy, etc...) in that moment. Although I am by no means a math genius I am very gifted with language and vocabulary (top 2% nationally). Maybe synesthesia assists with the ability to form memories? This of course assists intelligence. Just a thought...
Having a high IQ really makes you capable of perceiving and understanding things much more faster, but then there is the emotional intelligence that doesn't haves to do anything whit the IQ as we know it. In other words you can be a genius and be emotionally unstable therefore unhappy or you can have an average IQ and be happy as a smiley. I am not saying you can't have an high IQ and be happy, I am just saying everyone haves something special, you surely do, and I hope you use that high IQ for good. I remember when I was helping out a person whit MR whit a poem, that day I realized that all of us play an important role in life. People whit MR may not contribute to any intellectual field but spiritually and emotionally they have kept that innocence that makes them much more better human beings than those who despite their high IQ have done horrible things.
Yes. Some of histories greatest villains were highly intelligent, and some of the greatest heros were not. Intelligence doesn't make you a better person, it just makes you better at certain things
Exactly
Omg... Thank you as a long time member of Mensa I applaud you... And the things you have written are so true... life is not so easy for us we tend to fade into the shadows and not because we are ugly and unattractive. More times than not it is for fear of being judged a know it all or bullshitter... My ex said I explained everything , dicected every little thing (untrue ) she never understood how I could read 6 books at a time on all subjects , or why... I get frustrated a lot because people spout opinions or hearsay as fact without really knowing, or misuse the English language... I get bothered when people cannot grasp even simple concepts or facts... I speak 6 languages fluently and am learning 2 at the moment , I play music , I draw , paint, write poetry, build custom cars and bikes. I invent things I like to solve puzzles and nothing that interest me escapes my attention... So when I saw this I had to chime in... thank you my very wise friend ...
Wow, someone in Mensa actually commented on my post! I've been wondering if I should take one of the tests to try and get into Mensa, but I don't know if I'd get in
The tests are online, I do believe that you will and can obtain membership without issue. Good luck my intellectual friend.
Thank you :)
You are very welcome...
Wouldn't that be a downer to your ego
@KissMeKissYou ego has nothing to do with intelligence... Hugz🍀🐶🍀
Honey bunny you missed the point. And it was directed at our Asker not you. If he found out he wasn't in Mensa that would really be a downer to his ego. You have figured out now
@KissMeKissYou thanks for clarifying lol.…. I do appreciate you spending your valuable time and effort... Hugz n smiles to you 🍀🐶🍀
@KissMeKissYou Eh, my ego's not vey big. If I don't get in, oh well
If that is true and I have no reason to believe that it's not (well I do but the next sentence will clarify) then I urge you to limit your broadcasting of how gifted you are. It's not a good sign. That is one of the reasons why I urged you attempted mission to one of the high-powered schools which deflate any ego you may have. I believe I mentioned it previously but I was the hottest shit around, in my head, until I went to a school where everyone was the hottest shit around. And please don't tell me you've been around hot shits so you know the feeling. Believe me you don't know the feeling. When you sit in a 60 person class the title of which is advanced linear algebra and every body has taken that course are again already in high school or something like that you realize that in order to stand out in that class you will have to construct a rocketship that goes to another galaxy in order to gain fame
@KissMeKissYou well I'm going to tell you anyway. I've been in a room full of kids like that. I went to a camp with 400 of us, in a class of 12 studying astrophysics. I was nowhere near the smartest kid, but it was still immensely enjoyable.
I do not tell people how smart I am. that's why I posted anon. I do not wish the spotlights to be on me but rather on the worlds more pressing problems. And they are defeating fear, education, communication and many many more... I am searching for knowledge to help myself be the best me I can be , and maybe help or inspire others as well as grow as a human being?
i feel like this girl is backing up the "hey if you said you were good at sports we wouldn't say shit but intelligence, we must tell you to take down you "ego""
Nah I think she is saying we are under appreciated and misunderstood, as someone with a ridiculous high IQ expectations are high and people are insecure about someone who may actually smart... I understand it is difficult because people judge you before they know the heart within I believe her intent is to protect you... and as someone who is a seeker of knowledge there is no competition except ones self... be the inner self and you will be content... be well
Ah makes sense.
I am in the gifted range. I mentioned it once in response to a question about criteria for dating and I got excoriated for "bragging" and thinking I am better than everyone else. They just don't understand, perhaps because they are jealous and resentful.
I understand some of these but I don't classify myself as gifted, although I was classified as gifted in math in the 7th grade. However, I consider myself better in English as I've always had to choose my use of diction because most of people don't know what I'm saying when I speak normally , to everyone else it is "big words." I definetly understand the frustrated part , made me hate working in groups because I felt bad telling group members they were wrong about most things. I typically have to steer the conversation so they somehow come out to the right conclusion. On the bright side , I gained astounding social skills. I have those moments in class a lot where I pick up something and everyone else genuinely doesn't understand. It baffles me at times. I'm not on your level of genuis but I can relate to some of these things.
intelligence is so many things
it can be booksmart
it can also be when one is artistic
i always got bullied my entire life, and i had no self esteem, it was because people were jealous it turned out. i was too smart for my age. yet my test grades were sub par, i was unpopular, not attractive, i was a failure. funnily enough i am gifted, but stress and emotional trauma hold me back even to this day
not everyone with bad grades is stupid, not everyone is gifted
Some of this was similar to my experience. I think the main difference is your desire to explain things to other people, to relate to them intellectually. That doesn't work with most folks. You have to learn to speak their language because they are not going to learn yours. It's a matter of being emotionally aware, of figuring out what makes people tick. Compensate by constructing an intellectual understanding of it if your emotional IQ is low.
The only problem I really had in school is when teachers would look at my standardized test scores, freak out and start treating me differently from other kids. The other kids would notice and the trouble would start. Otherwise i blended in just fine and tuned my conversation to a pitch whoever I was talking to could hear.
It's not hard to do if your smart about it.
Great take. I definitely can relate. People think I'm a genius or something, I just go "no, there's a limit to my knowledge, I just haven't found it yet" (keep in mind I do this with a straight face).
I agree with @jacquesvol in "problems for gifted.." Just look at Einstein, Beethoven, etc. I could have done better in school / college, but didn't because I was bored. I think one professor gave me an "A-" so that I wouldn't be in his class again (he was the only one teaching that required class at the time).
And yes, I'm an introvert with 3 of the 4 "dominant personality types."
It more or less is all good I have a maths degree and I can program to a degree.
But I'm most definitely not gifted
I have a great long term memory especially for images
a highly selective short term memory that over all isn't that good. It seems to forget what people with certain types of voices have said quite easily.
I'm dyslexic which makes it take longer for me to get the information I need, though I do read a lot online even if I'm still slower than most people.
My visualization is good I can visualize 3D and even some simple 4D models In my head this came in handy for visualising many of the problems and still does to keep track of what a big block of code are doing.
I have strengths and weaknesses but overall I'm fairly average.
You have some good strengths, especially for having a maths degree and programming
I think you are hanging with the wrong crowd. I always thought so. I always had deep understanding of things which even adults could not understand. Then, I went to college and found similiar people who did understand. Its just life. It'll get better.
Seems like people will only think someone is intelligent if they are book smart. :(
Knowing you are gifted and above intelligent is a billion times better than having a mental disorder and struggle to remember anything, along with learning some things slower.
Still interesting take but I'll admit it bummed me out greatly. Nothing you said, just my own personal issue.
THIS is SOOOOOO true! "One of the problems gifted pupils face is that they're so much in advance at school that they're less interested in studying, may become lazy or... Then they fail despite being gifted. Gifted pupils have it too easy in a school system and that can be a disadvantage."
I know! I'm homeschooled, and plan to stay that way until college, because I think I'd fail immediately if I went to public high school because I'm two grades ahead, and I would be too bored to study
I'm classified as gifted myself, and I agree with part of this. When I was younger, a lot of this was true. Then I grew up and around the age of 20 began to realize not everyone thinks the same. It really has nothing to do with you being gifted. It's more about how conscious you are about the world around you. If a person is an adult and still living like everything that's obvious to them must be obvious to everyone else means they still need to learn a little bit about the world.
Damn, I didn't realize you wrre only 18 :o
"I've noticed quite a few of us have forms of synesthesia."
Do you think that helps you remember things better than the average person?
I remember hearing about a guy who was labeled as having a "superhuman memory" and supposedly the fact he had synesthesia played a role in that.
I'm actually only 15
It might, I remember what day it is solely by what color that day is.
Thats what I meant. It was a typo.
But does it help you remember other things more easily?
Id say no. As it only affect days, it's not really helpful. It might be more helpful for people who associate numbers or letters with colors
Well in general do you think you memory is just average then?
i guess
You're still at the beginning of the road. My advice from one gifted to another, make sure you have a boyfriend and a satisfactory social life before you hit my age. That instinct forcing us to be social is always there, and it causes problems in university if you ignore it in high school.
Unfortunately, I'm speaking from experience here.
I have a boyfriend, and quite a few good friends (to be fair, none of us are normals) so I guess i'm set
It's bit exhausting and causes alienation. That's what I would say.
I came to realise that I get along with strangers better, because I don't know them. Whenever I'm having a talk with someone I know, my mind just gets tapped by too much things about them, I easily get angry or bored.
I know that I'm smart. You can't get A's in classes like Microeconomics, Microeconomics, Business Calculus, a B+ in Business Law, and a B in Physics without having brains. However, I also have street smarts and social skills. I volunteered at many places before, belong to a horse club, and worked on a championship basketball team staff before. I can say that I'm anerd, but unlike most nerds I'm not just book smart. You need social skills, book smart, and street smarts to be successful. Good take
I agree, especially on point 6. If you're an intellectually gifted, abstract-minded person (especially the MBTI INxx types), people tend to see you as either an unreachable intellect or as a borderline Forrest Gump. There is no in-between. I have some older relatives who ask for my analysis on world affairs, and others who offer to help me read the lyrics in the church hymnal. It's as strange as it is maddening.
Great take.
"Here's a fact most people here don't know about me: I'm what most people refer to as "highly gifted.""
lol, you might wanna try coming off a bit more humble next time
The difference between smart people and dumb people is motivation. Everyone is smart at the things they want to be smart at. If you actually try, you will do well and your understanding and capabilities in a certain subject/practice will increase.
When you talk about having to explain pulsars to your peers, what was probably happening was that they didn't care much about your presentation, so they didn't harness the mental energy needed to understand it.
I can't say I agree with that. My sister likes doing history and math, but she's not very good at it. She tries, I see her everyday trying, but she's just not good at it. However, grammar, her least favorite subject, is probably her best
She's probably not thinking in the right way, then. Any subject can be hard if you don't demystify it and analyze/compartmentalize it properly.
You can argue that that's intelligence, but it's a fairly easy skill to learn.
I used to be smart... But then I think I started doing a lot of drugs... I know a bunch of facts, like I can tell you all about history and the molecules in a cell, but that doesn't always come in handy in real life...
I could never build a masonry wall up to code, while I'm sure a bunch of Mexicans could do it no problem...
And knowing the history of the Ottoman Empire has nothing to do with people skills, getting laid, or even making money if you're not a history teacher...