Planned Parenthood and Their Advocates Have Been Lying to You

[rjroy3]

Many women believe they could walk into their local Planned Parenthood clinic and get prenatal care when they need it. Hell, there are many women for years now who have gone up on stage to tell you that. Knowingly or unknowingly...they lied to you by and large. If you haven't seen the video already, then here you go. It's a little over 3 minutes so don't worry it is a short video. This really exposes the lie that is often parroted, even by a good number of women on here:

Again. I don't doubt that there are a lot of women out there that weren't aware it is a lie. But now you do, only 5 out of 97 clinics that were called offer prenatal. This lie is ever clear in this video especially when it gets to the clinic in my home town Virginia Beach, VA where the answering machine outright says they offer prenatal care, but when a person finally answers the phone they tell the woman calling that they do not offer prenatal care. Several clinics even say no Planned Parenthood in their state offers that and that they specialize in abortions.

[Anonymous]

Many times over the years. PP has been great for those who really have needed it. PP was actually a life savor.
However, in the last year or so, maybe longer which I never knew, taking a baby at full term for body parts when being aborted, and I no longer have respect for them.
De-fund them, like Mr. Trump is doing. They are the devil in red.

[rjroy3]

It's been much longer than that. I haven't watched that old video, but you're talking about the one they sold baby parts?

[Opinion Owner]

Yes, and this is why I am so against them. xx

[goaded]

"A Houston grand jury that had originally been investigating allegations of criminal misconduct by Planned Parenthood has — in a surprise move — instead indicted two people involved in making videos that provoked those allegations.

David Daleiden and Sandra Merritt were both indicted on felony charges of tampering with a governmental record. Daleiden was also charged with attempting to purchase and sell human organs, a misdemeanor."

Planned Parenthood did nothing wrong, but the video makers did.

[John_Doesnt]

"Taking a baby at full term for body parts".
I hope nobody is dumb enough to believe a word of that. That would never be legal.

[rjroy3]

@goaded I've honestly never looked into it myself, so I can't speak on the matter either way.

[Waffles731]

Yeah, cause offering abortions to people who can't afford it is just criminal and using our ta... oh wait, its on the books saying they can't use federal funding by law to fund abortions, oh wait, life doesn't begin with conception and getting rid of a bunch of cells is totally fine.

[rjroy3]

Sounds like someone fundamentally missed the point of the video and post in general.

[Edymemelord]

actually it sounds like he just doesn't care for that. As neither do I.

[rjroy3]

@Edymemelord

He cared enough to comment. As you did as well. Feel free to move along *waves*

[Iraqveteran666]

They could afford to have sex without proper contraception then they can afford to pay for their own abortions.

[Edymemelord]

@Iraqveteran666 Um copper IUDs are like 1,300 dollars. Meanwhile an abortion pill is 500. Definitely more affordable. And condoms (latex) are like 3 of them and tend to be super obnoxious and can obviously break.

[Edymemelord]

Plus its the poor uneducated community that needs abortions the most. While pop out more children into the poor cycle.

[Izumiblu]

Interesting that you took this spin instead of questioning why PP claims they offer pre natal care and much of the lobbying around PP states they need funding to support prenatal care... yet apparently they dont offer that.

I feel now as though i have been deceived as i have been a supporter of continued broad PP support. I would still be open to some funding even lacking pre natal care, but their tactics i think should at least be revised to say what they do without trying to mislead people.

And additionally, id say that any abortion beyond 16 weeks is unnecessary unless there is some imminent and serious risk to the mother.

[Iraqveteran666]

@Edymemelord and the contraceptive pill and arm implant is how much? If you had a baby on the way and needed $1300 you'd find it, like if you have the new i-phone, new sneakers, designer threads and spend $500+ on your hair you can find the money somewhere.

[Izumiblu]

@Iraqveteran666 Not sure where you are going with this really. Im not for blanket funding of endless and unrestricted assistance, and this video has made me question my assumptions I've held about PP.

[Izumiblu]

@Iraqveteran666 oopppsss, didn't catch that your comment wasn't directed at me... ignore if you feel its not relevant, my apologies for butting in...

[Iraqveteran666]

@Izumiblu just saying. My sister was complaining about having to buy birth control and tampons yet she spends all her money on cosmetics

[Edymemelord]

@Izumiblu Nah I was just replying to an earlier comment thats all.
Both of the PP's in my area offer prenatal services so c:
For all I know this could have been totally fake. Yet I can't say it for sure since I've only been to 4 states in the US and only 3 of which I cared to check on PP, much less so about their prenatal services.

[Izumiblu]

@Edymemelord I'm also skeptical of it, but its made me be more critical minded of what i am hearing. If it comes up as an issue in the future i'll look more closely into the claims.

[Edymemelord]

@Izumiblu Yeah, which is why I didn't take this all too seriously or bother much with my own comment

[OlderAndWiser]

Many on the left truly believe that the end always justifies the means, so - in their mind - it is okay to lie for a good cause.

[goaded]

Another deceptive video, how nice.

"The Live Action video is based on the implication that Planned Parenthood claimed to provide prenatal care services at all of their facilities, or that the organization was misleading the public about how often it provides these services. However, that simply isn't the case: [...]
“It is safe to say that not every single one of our health centers provides prenatal care, and we’ve never said otherwise,” Ms. Carter said. [...]
Ms. Carter said that “100 percent” of the organization’s health centers would provide what would be considered an initial prenatal visit, which would include a referral for further prenatal services that would be available elsewhere."

"It should be noted that the organization's web site states that "Planned Parenthood health centers focus on prevention: 80 percent of our patients receive services to prevent unintended pregnancy," and that Live Action chose to compare prenatal services (approximately 17,000 in 2014-2015) to abortions (more than 300,000) for this video, which gave the misleading impression that Planned Parenthood rarely provides reproductive health services other than abortions. In reality, Planned Parenthood provides more STD screenings (4,218,149), contraception services (2,945,059), and cancer screenings (682,208) than they do abortions."

www.snopes.com/planned-parenthood-prenatal-care/

[genuinlysensitive]

The instances of prenatal care are about one twentieth the abortions performed. They also do other services, however the point OP is trying to make is that Planned Parenthood has always lobbied for money and support based on it's massive "prenatal care services" which even this article points out is not that significant. Even it's other services are well in excess of prenatal care.

So basically "We need PP because of its prenatal care" is a lie used to garner support and money. Shocker biased political groups lying to get money.

[rjroy3]

Just now seeing this.

My only issue with that snopes analysis is that the video didn't suggest that PP offered prenatal care at all facilities. They suggested that PP and their advocates presented it as if prenatal care was a predominant part of the services they offer, when it isn't. Which is why they showed clip after clip of women talking about the massive importance of Planned Parenthood and the reasons they gave included, "Prenatal Care". When the reality is there is a minute number of clinics that offer it.

Watch the video for the wording they gave. They didn't say or suggest that it was stated "all" clinics have it and that they lied. The people in the video makes they claim PP and advocates suggest that it is a major service included at most locations, which is false.

[rjroy3]

This is kind of like when someone says, "we have to be concerned about Islamic Extremism" and the response to that is , "It's not ALL Muslims!".

Well... they never said ALL anything. They suggested that it was merely an issue with some. In this instance it's similar. Snopes is responding with NOT ALL, when the video never made the claim that all PP clinics were saying they offered it.

[goaded]

@rjroy Don't you think that the Live Action video is based on the implication that Planned Parenthood claimed to provide prenatal care services at all of their facilities?

The context of the quotes from the speeches make it pretty clear that the video is misleading. Just because the head of PP wants a president that supports prenatal care, it isn't a claim that PP provides it (PP doesn't provide "first class public schools", either).

"They want a president [...] who will fight for prenatal care, head start, health care for kids and first class public schools because it takes a village!"

I would also love to hear the rest of the phone conversations where they say "we don't offer prenatal services", to see how often that was followed up by directions to someone else who did.

You're dismissing Snopes on the basis of one incorrect and one strangely written article (by the same author), but not dismissing this video despite being provided with context that shows it to be misleading.

[rjroy3]

I'm actually not dismissing snopes on that bases. I read their article and what they said.
Snopes did the same as you in this instance and stated that they claim PP says or suggests "all" their clinics offer prenatal care, when they don't. But that's not what they were doing. You can't prescribe intent to what someone says, especially when you are reading in a new implication other than what was intended. It's inaccurate and unfair to do so.

If I say, "some terrorists are Muslim" it would be off base for you to respond with "Not all Muslims", because my statement never even suggested that "all" Muslims were terrorists. The moment I said "some" I laid the groundwork for my statement. For you to read in new meaning outside of what I intended is when you're clouding a subject. Snopes did that here.
Snopes started with a claim that the video never made and then went on to disprove the claim snopes made up. That's called a Strawman.

[rjroy3]

But no I do not think that's what they meant deep down. They never said it, so I'm not going to assume what they meant deep down outside of what they directly said.

[Red_Arrow]

Planned Parenthood's web site states that "Planned Parenthood health centers focus on prevention: 80 percent of our patients receive services to prevent unintended pregnancy," Nothing deceptive there. They also offer some prenatal care at some locations, but usually not, since that is not their focus. However, most of the sites that do not offer prenatal care do provide a list of local providers who do.

The very name, Planned Parenthood, makes it clear that they offer service to avoid parenthood if you are trying to avoid it until you are ready... "planned". Again, no lies there. @goaded stated it well in his opinion here. And these voices on the phones could have been anyone. Since the group that made the video was so deceptive and misleading with its out of context quotes, I do not doubt that these "phone calls" were made up. (Kind of like most Trump "facts").

[rjroy3]

You sound like a conspiracy theorist

[Red_Arrow]

So anyone who looks at the facts (what is on the website that Planned Parenthood is actually saying), doubts the legitimacy of what a group is saying when it conflicts with what what other sources show to be the truth, and does not drink the Kool Aid of a Trump "cultist" is a "conspiracy theorist"? LMAO!!!

[rjroy3]

I'd imagine you'd have more depth of thought. It sounds like conspiracy for a couple reasons. Like

" And these voices on the phones could have been anyone. Since the group that made the video was so deceptive and misleading with its out of context quotes, I do not doubt that these "phone calls" were made up. "

You've clearly already come to your conclusion about the matter, when you don't know they were deceptive. If you listen they outright said they called 97 Planned Parenthood offices and only 5 offered prenatal care. And at least 3 of those offices told the girl calling that no PP in their state offer prenatal care. So when you said,

"They also offer some prenatal care at some locations, but usually not, since that is not their focus. However, most of the sites that do not offer prenatal care do provide a list of local providers who do."

You missed the fact the basis of their claim was that PP and their advocates pretend prenatal care is a major part of it and it's not.

[rjroy3]

So to say, well their website says not all locations have it and the name says "planned" so it's not deceptive...

They lied lol. No getting around that.

[rjroy3]

But hey, if it comes out the video was fake they could go to jail because of it. If someone is willing to risk going to prison over this then you may be onto something. But assuming they're like most human beings... the video is real and Planned Parenthood advocates are pushing a lie.

[Red_Arrow]

I suggest that you read the Snopes. com article linked by @goaded for a more in depth look than can be done in the space here. They not only called sites, the went to many, and what they found was what I already said. As I alread pointed out, much of that video was snips of what was said taken out of context, and when seen with the lead in one can easily see they are not lies.

[rjroy3]

I'm actually glad you said that. Goaded and I are currently awaiting a retraction from snopes on two individual stories they got wrong. Their fact check was false. You should talk to him on that matter. I showed him a story they got wrong and he looked into it that I was correct in saying they got it wrong. He submitted a notice to them over a week ago now and no change has been made. I was talking to him how I question snopes credibility because of stories such as that one.

[rjroy3]

But I will check that one out a bit later and see if that particular article has credibility to it or not. I'm getting some work done at Starbucks at the moment and just took a mental break to check a few things online.

[goaded]

@rjroy3 "Goaded and I are currently awaiting a retraction from snopes on two individual stories they got wrong"
I only reported one as incorrect (the Karnival leaflets one), and pointed out that another one by the same fact checker sounded a bit off. I'm disappointed by their response so far.

I still don't dismiss Snopes as a whole, though, since most of the checks I've read there stand up to scrutiny (and I do check their sources).

[rjroy3]

Yea. I'm the one who doesn't share his same faith in their integrity. I think they willfully lied, but if they don't fix this we'll know for sure how much honesty matters to them.

@goaded

Ah, thought the other was reported as well. Regardless. This wait time just reaffirms to me my distrust in them every day that passes. Any source that is shown a mistake that doesn't correct it, to me calls their integrity into question.

[genuinlysensitive]

The experiment seems easy enough to repeat...

[rjroy3]

Waa notified by gag to select MHO, which brought me here.

@goaded

Anything back about snopes making that retraction and correcting their factcheck?

[goaded]

After their initial response, just crickets. :(

I expected better of them, but nobody's perfect. I'll still use them as a quick check and as a source for original sources because finding a couple of bad evaluations doesn't make the whole enterprise pointless or wrong.

[rjroy3]

@goaded

True, but it does call into question their personal integrity. If they're reluctant to correct a false story

[godfatherfan]

So your just a replublican bullshit peddler. Sorry, the good planned parenthood does helps thousands of women and children a year. So even if your one of those closed minded individuals that doesn't believe in the right to your own opinion, and the woman's right to do what she chooses with her body, you can't argue against it. We have a complete waste of a human being that was put in office by an outdated election system. he was NOT elected president. He lost the election. He was elected by the electoral college. Big difference. All we can do is hope he doesn't destroy this country and the next Democrat will be able to undo all the damage he does.

[rjroy3]

TLDR past "So your just a replublican bullshit peddler.".

Nope. Not Republican. So feel free to take your bullshit elsewhere. If you think my post is wrong, then do your research and prove it, because the facts are on my side. Later days.

[Cccgala]

I legit laughed when the holding message just said prenatal care is offered when the phone agent told the caller that they don't offer such.

Oh, I see. There's a discrepancy between the advocacies and the actual services offered.

Planned Parenthood is a misnomer.

[rjroy3]

That was pretty funny lol. And that's my hometown. I almost want to ask around to find out who that woman was on the phone XD

[OrdinaryGentleman]

There is a disconnect between advocates and the actual agency itself.
I have no way to verify what you are saying, however, it is an automated telephone, meaning that it streams across the country. If 5 centers offer prenatal care, then Planned parenthood offers pre-natal care; that's politics for ya.
Also, it is uncomparable to the clinics that Christians employ to steer mothers away from raising a child. Advocacy groups that parade themselves as abortion clinics when in reality they lure mothers there in the hopes of changing their minds.
Now i can't really debate you on anything that i have said, or you have said for that matter because i lack knowledge of what is going on with planned parenthood other than a brief overview.
However, i am pro-abortion because i believe it is the right of the mother to decide unless a father is involved.

[rjroy3]

Find any pro planned parenthood speech or video online. In the list of reasons they give for why they say we need Planned Parenthood, which receives tax dollars, they say prenatal care. Problem is that a very very small number of clinics actually offer that and per the video at least 3 of the states called didn't have any planned Parenthood office that offered prenatal care. Yet still any women's march or feminist convention talking about Planned Parenthood will say we need it because of prenatal care. It's deceptive.

To verify it all you have to do is 1. Find pro Planned Parenthood sources on why we need it and see their reasons why. 2. Then if this video isn't sufficient, just call individual Planned Parenthood offices and ask if they offer prenatal care.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

I would have to call the centers around me, planned parenthood says that they have those things because they do. It may not be at your local facility... but lets be honest. I am gonna guess here... Who would want their kids to be cared for at a medical facility that specializes in ending a forming life.

[rjroy3]

It's misleading. Comparatively you could say the same for a Taco Bell commercial marketing their tacos, only to find out that only 10% of their stores actually serve tacos. I mean, Taco Bell still does offer tacos. It's just at select locations. But that's not how it's marketed or talked about by advocates for Planned Parenthood. I agree with you on the stigma and that it could be part of the reason why they don't. But being deceptive isn't a good move if your goal is to tell people why we should have something. On a personal level I don't have much against Planned Parenthood. I have a problem that my tax dollars go to it, when I don't use it or support what they do. That's my big issue. If they were a standalone facility that was licensed by the government, but were not tax funded then cool.

But forcing people to support Planned Parenthood... rubs me the wrong way.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

That's a capitalist market for ya.
Why does it rub you the wrong way?

[rjroy3]

I'm Conservative/Libertarian mix. I believe the role of government should be smaller than it is today and among other things I believe that any law/tax put in place needs to be with the understanding that the enforcement of that law/tax is by gun point. If you don't pay taxes you go to jail and men with guns will come to your door to put you there. If you break the law, then men with guns will come to your door to take you to jail.

When it comes to taxes and tax funding it should be limited to anything involved with maintaining safety of people, property or necessary for running society. Which is what government was intended to be. Protection of our liberties. Abortions and abortion clinics are not a right, but a service which you can pay for. You can't force someone to give you one and it is morally wrong to force others to pay for them. And despite PP not being a necessity and further still they do things I disagree with I am still forced to support it through my tax dollars.

[rjroy3]

If I wanted to boycott apple I'd stop paying for their products, because I disagree with them for whatever reason. If I disagree with Planned Parenthood. Tough. They got my money anyways. They don't give a shit and they'll stay in business anyways and I'll never in my life use their services despite me still paying for it.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

I think you are paying for people not having to go through some hardships during parenthood, and to thwart unwanted medical complications.
Sometimes abortions are very very necessary; especially if you put the mothers life over the fetus.
It is a basic healthcare that many women need, but have not gotten before.

Perhaps looking at a different perspective might yield a better way of thinking.
Say you have a rape victim, who is 13 years old,
say you have a drug addict who would likely lead the baby to crave their addiction out of the womb.
Say you have a single mother on welfare who cannot support the child without your tax dollars going into her pocket for many many years, compared to a singular procedure that would hardly deduct from your tax rate.
My point is that there are many benefits, most that will benefit you in the long run, and most importantly the individual who has to put up with having a set of different organs.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

That's my thoughts^^

[rjroy3]

"I think you are paying for people not having to go through some hardships during parenthood, and to thwart unwanted medical complications."

The number of abortions that are done because of rape, to save a mothers life or avoid major health complications are statistically insignificant. They almost are not even on the page. The vast majority are because the mother just doesn't want the child/doesn't feel ready. And i'm not even saying they shouldn't get them. I'm saying don't FORCE me to pay for it or for me to support the company that does it with my money. I'm being forced to pay, at gun point.

Even if I took on the perspective that it's good for me personally in the long run. It is still wrong fundamentally to force me to pay for it. Is it the governments job to force me to eat my vegetables?

[rjroy3]

I think an easier way of putting it is that it is not right, nor the job of the government to legislate virtue. I donate time and money to causes I personally agree with. It is wrong for the government to say, they want to do something good. So they're going to take my money in order to pay for it.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

I think I understand your perspective.
There are plenty of reasons not to pay it and with the mounting monetary pressure it is understandable.
I sort of see the fetus as a parasite only applicable to women. It's a lot like how women carry a recessive genetic trait, while not being affected by it, but their sons inherit and are affected by that trait.
From my perspective, I think it is fair because sometimes our preventative usage of condoms or pills do not always work out.
I would rather my money make a positive impact on someone's life, but that is me.

[rjroy3]

" I would rather my money make a positive impact on someone's life, but that is me"

I don't accept that the government has the right to my money to begin with. That's the thing. It's my choice. I donate money to good causing I personally agree with. This idea that anything the government chooses to do with the money they take from me is good and well is irrelevant. It's wrong to steal other peoples money. If I want to donate my money for a good cause, then I will do so voluntarily. I understand your perspective. That the government is taking your money either way and there's nothing you can do about it. So if they're going to use money they take from you it'd be better in your mind they use that money to help people.

Where I'm standing it is just wrong to steal other peoples money. It's kind of like I held you up at gun point. Took your wallet and said, "It's okay. I'm using your money to donate to a homeless shelter. They need it more". Then went on my way with your wallet.

[rjroy3]

That's what government does and you're saying that it's okay as long as it's for a good cause or that we should accept it as "okay", because we can't do anything about it.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

It isn't stealing, it's being pumped into the economy you see around you.
Firefighters and cops get paid, roads, bridges, hospitals, wars, nuclear weapons, Pathogens are all created with your cash. And now that the government is trying to make a member of your societies life easier you would rather not shell out an extra 20$?

But i am not taking your wallet, i would be taking a small portion out of it while taking into account your monetary income, having you pay less depending upon your basic needs. And if you were to find yourself in the position of the homeless man, wouldn't you want the opportunity to work, to finally be off the streets and eat?
My opinion is that we cannot move forward as a society since we have to move as the slowest people. If we help those people out by donating a few bucks to get them to their feet then we will have more people willing to work, and donate to those less fortunate.

[rjroy3]

"My opinion is that we cannot move forward as a society since we have to move as the slowest people. If we help those people out by donating a few bucks to get them to their feet then we will have more people willing to work, and donate to those less fortunate."

My opinion is, Great. If we all agree, then make it a voluntary process. Don't force people to take part in a service they don't want. Even right now if someone wants to pay more tax dollars they can do so. You can fill out a form to the IRS and volunteer more money for tax every year if you want to. Out of the goodness of your own heart. The problem is people are trying to be virtuous with other peoples money. Stealing someone's money is wrong. Whether it's all of their money, half their money, 10% of their money. Stealing is stealing.

[rjroy3]

"It isn't stealing, it's being pumped into the economy you see around you.
Firefighters and cops get paid, roads, bridges, hospitals, wars, nuclear weapons, Pathogens are all created with your cash. And now that the government is trying to make a member of your societies life easier you would rather not shell out an extra 20$?"

Those are not equivalent. Because maintaining roads, Police, Firemen, EMTs. Those are services that we all use and absolutely need. You're using the roads everyday. You have to pay for that. If you need 911 and call, that's cool. We pay for it because we need those things.
I'm never going to need an abortion.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

Taxes are not stealing, people have been getting away with paying less than the middle class for a long time.
They are the upper class.
Just to paint it as stealing is a pretty broad brush, it does not account for the fact we live in a society. The government is not a corporation, the government is there to serve the people and to do so it needs citizens to transfer a percentage of their revenue to the government.

You may never need an abortion but someone on welfare might. Which would you rather do? Pay for 18 years of someone's new life or pay the 20$.
The fact is that we are moving towards a socialist society, one where the government helps the people a lot and one where business is greatly accepted. But to get there a change must happen. That means a change in the way of thinking that is not conceited.

[rjroy3]

What happens to you if you don't pay your taxes?

[FallOutBoy2001]

You get arrested. You live in a civilized country, you need to pay taxes for the upkeep

[rjroy3]

@FallOutBoy2001

^
Which is my point. Paying taxes is not voluntary. So whether we like to admit it or not. All taxes are stealing by gun point. Because when it comes down to it. If you don't do it you will be taken to jail. So to say, we "should" do these things. He's not really suggesting that. What he's really saying is that we need to legislate it and force people to do this at gun point, because I consider this act morally justifiable. If something is truly benevolent and a good idea that benefits everyone involved you won't have to legislate it, to force people to do it. They will do it out of their own free will.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

You are extrapolating words bud. Why don't you ask me questions since you seem to enjoy You keep saying it is at gun point, it is not at gun point, nothing is at gun point unless you disobey the law and in our country, paying taxes to fund, our military, our governmental expenditures, to take care of our sick, our injured and our downtrodden we need to pay, its the way this country operates.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

*Why don't you ask me questions since you seem to enjoy taking words out of context, creating a false narrative with scary phrases for a requirement and civil duty of each citizen.

[AleDeEurope]

Yep, PP is bullshit. I support abortions, but you can't call yourself "PLANNED Parenthood" when you don't even offer prenatal care.

[rjroy3]

I'm for limited abortion myself, but yea. The problems with this are clear. Several clinics specifically saying, "abortions are our specialty. Oh and we don't offer prenatal care"... while the public message clearly states they offer prenatal care and that no tax dollars pay for abortions. Even if it's true they don't use tax dollars on abortion we're all still supporting what they do with the power of our dollar. When people were pissed about the owner of Chic Fil A's views on marriage Chic Fil A was boycotted and people voluntarily chose not to offer them their money because of it.

What do anti abortion people do about Planned Parenthood? They don't give a shit they already got your money. You're literally supporting them whether you choose to or not. That would be like giving tax dollars to the KKK if they offered a public service. "Yea, we used to lynch black people. But the new KKK movement is a movement for change and betterment of our local communit

[Izumiblu]

Well, after watching this i certainly feel as though i've been deceived about their services.

[John_Doesnt]

What do you care? It's a woman's right to abortion.

[rjroy3]

Sounds like someone fundamentally missed the point of the video and post in general.

[John_Doesnt]

I understood the point was to try and say most planned parenthood's only provide abortions. But there's nothing wrong with abortion.

[rjroy3]

That was not the point. You inferred that of your own choosing. So yes, you clearly fundamentally missed the point of the video and post in general.

[John_Doesnt]

I didn't watch the video. I only read the post.

[rjroy3]

Feel free to quit being willfully ignorant anytime then.

[Anonymous]

I have always found the name Planned Parenthood to be so dishonest. More like Unplanned Birth Control.

[starryeyedkitten]

Here we go yet again with "plan parenthood is xyz" its so boring to hear people bash this place now.

[rjroy3]

Actually not bashing it. I'm saying we've been mislead in regards to them offering prenatal care. Personally, I don't care about them as a stand alone business. I just don't think they should be tax funded. If it's a service enough people want, then they will stay open by having customers just like any other business.

[Anonymous]

One wonders why this lie of epic proportions has not been exposed by the media. I'm sure exposing a huge lie like this would be no problem...

Very informative, thank you!

[Anonymous]

A channel named "Daily Sh*t Show" is bound to post s____.

[Iraqveteran666]

It's not a big shocker

[Iraqveteran666]

It's all political and they just want to keep this gravy train funded at the expense of the taxpayer. We need a nationwide referendum on abortion. I don't think the taxpayer should funderstand the fixing of peoplesome bad choices.