I Am a Young Man and I Don't Want World War III

[Unit1]

I am a young man aged 22, living around low-to-middle class maybe and I believe we are at the brink of an emerging world war 3. Seeing how the global economy only gets worse and the nations provoking and punishing each other AND things simply keep escalating I could almost predict the future from now on: A dystopic and bleak wasteland.

But why am I writing this (1)? What is the purpose of this message of mine (2)? And what does my brief introduction have anything to do with a possible emerging world war 3 (3)?

(1,2) The point is I feel like I am one of the only few with these thoughts (along with my buddy @JudgmentDay ) and observing our current events over time as things don't get better, we can probably guess where it goes. I hope I can submit this message to other folks so that my fellow men can feel together with me in what misery we are getting ourselves into and maybe open their perspective on what will be made of us.

For the women… to give my (or our) perspective what we will go through if things break into a new age war since most soldiers are men like me. In other words – I want to be heard and receive a response!

(3) What my details have to do with a possible new emerging world war 3 is that if it happens, then it will be me and other men like me, who will be sent into the battlefield to fight and kill each other and then be killed by the opposing force. *WE* didn't ask for it. The government did. Just because the presidents couldn't get along with each other.

They may call it "defending/serving/fighting for your country". I call it nonsense mass-slaughter of the innocent and the not so innocent. It's like you live and rent an apartment (taxes in this case) but then comes your landlord (the state) and commands you to go out with your neighbors and beat up (fight a war) the equally angered crowd of people outside (the opposing force), that the landlord (the state) has deliberately provoked their landlord (their state) to the extend of wanting to have your landlord (state) dead. But it will be YOU, who will take all impacts and it will be YOU, who will pay for what the landlord (state) has done with your blood, health and your very own life. And you did NOTHING to provoke all of this conflict.

If the presidents and the governments as much as hate each other so much that they declare sanctions and want to see each other die, then why don’t they fly over and have a fist fight with them up close and personal instead of sending us pawns and their puppets to our own doom for their benefits?

Oddly enough the governments can't get along with each other. Yet I have (online) friends from various countries including but not limited to Spain, Finland, America, Denmark, Austria, Australia, Great Britain, Russia, possibly France also and we aren't living much better as the average citizens in those countries. I'd only hate it too much to have been killed by my (online) friends or having to kill them.

I don't want to crawl through dirt and snow in the hot or cold, wet outside being starved, dehydrated, tired, yelled at and kill other young men like myself from other countries while enduring those loud gunfire right next to my ear and experiencing global destruction. I don't want to have anything to do with this.

I want my peace. I want to have a comfortable place I can call my own home and be able to retire to (Which I don't even have now). I want to be able to live good and eat right and be healthy. I want to pursue my own happiness. I want to have sufficient resources for a satisfying life. I want to spend quality time with a good woman, who is in a fully committed long-term relationship with me and devote some quality time also to my friends and to my travels and adventures.
And most importantly I want the government to stay out of my private life!

Firearms are cool by the way – they just shouldn't be used in order to fight wars with us being at risk (or better yet no wars should be happening at all) because of the governments disagreement or abused by criminals. If anything, military training is alright also in order to practice it in a way of sporting or a hobby kind of thing.

Wars belong to video games such as Call of Duty, Battlefield or in the movies, just not in our everyday lives.

If you look at history then you will know, that reasons for wars were commonly including but not limited to: War over resources, finances, conquering areas and disharmony. But we do not benefit from fighting wars. The benefits reap mostly only those above us. We only lose it all!

And I am just an average citizen. Not a powerful member of the government. That's just who I am and this is my voice and perspective. I cannot control our own future.

[Warmapplecrumble]

Human behaviour is so sad and toxic.

I agree with you 100 percent.

War is un-needed and only benefits the Elite in which the poor die and suffer.

[hawkeye92]

no that's a dumb quote you extrapolated. human behavior has brought us to the great quality of life we have today. you live in the freaking UK. bring up that quote if you live pretty much anywhere east of Romania or south of the Mediterranean.

[Warmapplecrumble]

@hawkeye92 lol you are funny.

You call a great life:
1. Human trafficking
2. Drugs
3. Slavery - we are all slaves to the system, born to work and serve the Elite
4. You can't even be naked in your own house
5. Trash everywhere
6. Estrogen everywhere which is effecting us and other species, especially fish
7. Plastic everywhere
8. Pollution
9. We can't do basic things like sex, cough, fart or sneeze in public which are normal...
10. We destroy the planet where ever we go

Do you realise we are domesticated and de-evolving as humans.

Humans are the viruses that are using Earth's resources and burning every other species habitat.

[Unit1]

@Warmapplecrumble
You quite literally took every single word out of my mouth! I salute you! I am fascinated, that you have come to this conclusion just as I did.

https://youtu.be/IM1-DQ2Wo_w

@JudgmentDay I think you will also appreciate what she said big time!

[Warmapplecrumble]

@Unit1 thank you, it's very sad I wish what I said was false :-/

[Unit1]

Don't most of us do, lady?

Survival is where we are at. Survival at the benefits of those ignorant elite class tyrants we call the government.

[Warmapplecrumble]

We are not even surviving,
Just pay the bills,
Go to school and learn to worship and conform
If you don't conform you get bullied.. some even kill for authority

Pay taxes like it says in the bible, in UK we pay 20 percent on our jobs, 10 percent on road tax, 25 on sugar, 20 on regular food, 20 on pads and tampons, 20 on land tax permission to live in certain area, 5 on the permission to watch TV.

What's funny is we pay to watch music and movies... which are forms of advertisement. Aren't the Elite so clever?

You know you can go to jail if you try to grow vegetables and sell them?

You know if you go off grid, you can never come back into the system.

[Unit1]

Yes indeed. We are being farmed like animals in the barn to extract as much of that green paper as possible and then thrown into the grave. We also have very limited so called rights. We are the product and the property of the government. We are not free. We cannot do anything we want because one activity or the other will want the authorities you to be punished.
This is exactly why I am childfree. I should consider a vasectomy at this point.

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"What's funny is we pay to watch music and movies... which are forms of advertisement. Aren't the Elite so clever?"
They fucking are and I hate them for that also. We are the sheep feeding on the governments bullsh.

"You know if you go off grid, you can never come back into the system."
Yes because nobody will want to come back after the truth. Matrix much 😎

I just want to govern my own life my own way on my own space without having anyone setting up laws, that need not to be.

[Warmapplecrumble]

Yes this why I am very uncertain about children myself. When you have children you must conform or get arrested lol.

I dislike how we are property just making profit. There's no benefit to us. Counting pennies.

Lol you know there was this guy me and my boyfriend went to see to rent a apartment from. He said you two should be quick with the move, I'd like to quickly travel. (We found it so rude, here we are struggling and this guy wants to roam the planet for free from making us work day and night).

Every day people in countries like UK die from starvation. No one reports this.
Human trafficking of children - this one goes under radar. They make so much money from this. Kids go missing all the time. No one even talks about it.

I would like to move off grid but I don't have resources to do it nor support.

[Unit1]

Me too. I don't want to be any part of this.
And I won't bring any kids into this shit.

[Warmapplecrumble]

I hope we both find a solution

[Unit1]

Mine would be finding a sex driven lady, who is also childfree. And doesn't want to marry. Because marriage is also a business opportunity for our enemy, the government. Making people believe they are officially together forever since it's implementation from religion.

[Warmapplecrumble]

You get reduction in tax and pension if one dies lol. I think for that reason it's good.

[Warmapplecrumble]

Why sex driven?

[Unit1]

I have a sky high libido and i love sex very much!

[Warmapplecrumble]

I hope you find your woman soon :-D I hope she's sexy too ;-)

[Unit1]

Thank yew :) :) :) I will be waiting for *HER* 😍😍😍

[Warmapplecrumble]

You are welcome :-D

[JudgmentDay]

@Warmapplecrumble "We are not even surviving,
Just pay the bills,
Go to school and learn to worship and conform"

Then you probably would agree with the following videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQUhJTxK5mA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_uLwHFR2aA

[Warmapplecrumble]

@JudgmentDay I agree and already know this sadly :-/

[Warmapplecrumble]

Thank you for MHO ♥

[Unit1]

I love hugs, cuddles and tickles. Not battlefields, mass home-destruction and poverty.

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[Warmapplecrumble]

*hugs* me too ♥ I hope things are more cuddly

[Unit1]

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Thank you 😊. 😍 *o*

[Warmapplecrumble]

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[Unit1]

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[Ahmed_Sy15x]

it is a complete waste of money and lives... many soldiers and innocent children die because a couple of wild dogs thirsty for power and false glory.

[Ahmed_Sy15x]

Thanks for mho bro

[ADFSDF1996]

I don't think anyone with a rational mind wants a Third World War because a war of that magnitude could alter human civilization in a negative way due to the new types of warfare that exist.

[JudgmentDay]

If you have known chronic health problems then you shouldn't have to worry about being forced to fight on the front lines because then you aren't even fit to begin with for being drafted to fight. And you can get a lawyer to dispute it as an error and get proof from your doctor about your health condition and any chronic problems you have and keep a record of it. And even if they did tried to for whatever reason you can always refuse a draft if you disagree with it. I mean, look at what Muhammad Ali did during the Vietnam War and look how that turned out for him. He stood up for WHAT HE BELIEVED IN. He didn't want to fight, and kill and die or blindly follow all for being TOLD WHAT IS RIGHT, OR THAT IT IS RIGHT. You are free to think and decide for yourself, free to think and act according to your own beliefs and thoughts. Don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.

Stand up for what YOU BELIEVE IN, instead of simply submitting and agreeing to being TOLD WHAT IS RIGHT. If you can't agree with being part of any conflict in your own conscience then you don't have to submit to it and obey.

"It's not the message that is important but our obedience to it."

Tell them you refuse and WON'T OBEY because you don't agree and refused being TOLD WHAT IS RIGHT. Tell them confidently WITHOUT ANY FEAR, and stare at them in the eyes that THE ANSWER IS NO! AND IT ALWAYS WILL BE NO!

Those that have the power and the authority to create and generate money out of thin air and loan it into existence are the ones that are responsible for what's going on today. Those that control the finances and the money of the entire world; those that control the Central Banks of the world are responsible. By perpetually loaning money into existence to governments, massive debts become accumulated to the point where it's virtually impossible to ever to pay back those debts and then nations become trapped in those debts. And it leads to desperation. Problem. Reaction. Solution. Ordo ab Chao (Order out of Chaos) But because how humans are so divided, thus it is possible, we unknowingly had allowed and let this happen and unfold. History repeats itself, because it's just the way humans are, we're a self-destructive and divided species.

Also, even if war doesn't result in the death of us all, there's always pandemics, other catastrophic or cataclysmic disasters, climate change, etc.

No matter what happens, we're all still going to die eventually.

[JoyGirl]

"No matter what happens, we're all still going to die eventually."

We are? Nuuuuu! Lmao xD

[JudgmentDay]

@JoyGirl Unfortunately, but that's why we better make the most of our time here while we still can, we're not gonna get another chance or second time around and we can't rewind and go backwards to change anything or undo anything or do things differently, we can only go forward.

[Unit1]

That sounds easier said than done. We will be drafted and we cannot simply say no. As far as i know Russian boys also cannot decline forced military services once they reach the age of 18. Because the laws said so. And if they don't show up, then they will get breached and cleared right out of the bed and turn into one of those soldiers, who just dragged him out of there. Ask any Russian. I suppose they will tell the same unless they are disabled.
We are screwed.

[JudgmentDay]

@Unit1 Then I guess it's different everywhere. It's fucked up if they insist if you have health problems, especially if it's chronic ones, they should only draft those that are fit and healthy enough to fight anyway. Typically they put you through a medical exam after they send you a latter declaring that you had been selected to be drafted and then they'll decide if you are qualified to become part of the service or not. by the way, Muhammad Ali did show up for all those things for he was drafted for the Vietnam war, he just refused induction. But I guess drafts around the world are different. He didn't run or go anywhere else, he basically said he ain't gonna fight in a war that he don't believe in and if that mean jail time or prison time for what he believe in, then SO BE IT. Basically he resisted and protested non-violently. Either way it's tough. Ali didn't exactly serve prison time for what he refused though. He did get hit with a big fine though. Look it up and see for yourself bro.

[Unit1]

No one should be drafted! Healthy or not. I am probably half disabled but if i was a healthy man, then i still wouldn't fight wars. Because that's asking to be killed... Which is nice if you are very depressed.
I rather fight for my own cause, not over someone governing my life.

[JudgmentDay]

@Unit1 That's why I think if only more people are willing to do what Muhammad Ali did during the Vietnam War and refuse induction that might make them reconsider how it would affect the morale of others that don't want any part of war. He is healthy and fit to fight in that war, but he absolutely refuse to, and was willing to take jail or prison time over being forced to face the frontlines and become cannon fodder or another pawn to system. In the end, all he got punished for was a fine, and got his boxing license suspended, but he wasn't the only one that refused there are many others that also did. Either way the morale would be hurt if they insist on trying to force those to fight for what they do no agree with and do not believe in, and it would have disastrous results, as you can tell that's what happened with the Vietnam War. If Ali could refuse, then anybody else should be able to refuse also if that's what they believe in.

[JudgmentDay]

@Unit in the end it's not about whether you want it to happen or not but how you would respond and react to something that is beyond your control, well, ultimately anyway, because that's just the way it is, way too many fucking things in this world are beyond our control and usually they are the bad things or the worst thing that could possibly ever happen.

[JudgmentDay]

@Unit1 didn't tag properly, check the last response above

[Unit1]

I have realized this a very long time ago when i was a child in my early teens. Starting from how i never had enough money for a living and survived poverty. And my reaction was very defensive, curled up and shut off from everything and everyone. It was a very natural reaction i must say. I didn't get mad or anything but i got very severely depressed for the longest time.

[JudgmentDay]

@Unit1 As of now the conflict, or conflicts, since there are multiple parties involved this time around currently stays at a "cold" phase, so it's definitely an ongoing "new cold war". As I've already shown you earlier that someone wrote a whole book in regards to this called "The Colder War". If it stays only at proxy wars, then it's a Cold War. If it's a direct confrontations between any of the larger nations, in particularly to Russia, United States or China, then it's a "hot" war. But the way I see it, the variables that caused a "hot" war last two times had not taken place yet, and if somehow they are averted or further postponed and if they somehow are able to work this whole thing out, then we're fine. Nobody sane wants to say aw fuck it and go all out because of Mutual Assured Destruction doctrine, thus everyone loses. And also because there had always been a pattern, so if certain things had not happened yet, then a full scale conflict can't all of sudden happen overnight.

[Unit1]

I can see that.
There are still those political conflicts.
It may stay a cold war but as long as I'm not involved in it i wouldn't really care.
We, the peasants at the bottom 98% can't do anything about it since the top 0. something make all the decisions and differences in the world of capitalism and money 💵.

So yeah. I want no business with these.
Still just finding a quiet place, where war is not going to expand is the only escape i can imagine like you described earlier. But that is not going to happen because i can barely afford to eat good every day.

[JudgmentDay]

@Unit1 Pretty much, we can't exactly run away from all of it no matter how much we wanted to. If only we could just ditch this planet and leave it behind altogether, but we're only human, only mortal, so we're stuck here one way or another. Always keep in mind, we only have so much control over what happens, more often than not way too many things are just simply beyond our control. So for now just take it easy, take a deep breath, take it one step at a time, one day at a time.

"It may stay a cold war but as long as I'm not involved in it i wouldn't really care."

Same here, and I hope that's all it's going to remain that way at least for the next 40 to 60 years anyway, or end all together without ever becoming a reality in that time frame, as that should buy us enough time to live out whatever time we got left here on this planet. But we never know exactly when our time will be up though.

[Unit1]

War belongs in the video games and movies.
Not here.

I have been thinking like you know... living under the radar?
In the event if a war breaks out, what could we do to hide under the radar and not being sent to shoot each other?

[looneymalooney]

Don't know how many actually want war.
But if it does happen, then one way or another you need to fight. I want my country to be prepared to defend. NOT attack, but defend and piss on everyone that dares to cross the borders uninvited. Just like in my house. If everyone breaks in and I'm there, I'm gonna break their bones
before I call the cops.

Look at Switzerland. Having obligatory military service for everyone starting what 1880 1890. I might be off with a few years.
They train 20000 new soldiers each year. They plan to extend this to women.
It's a country, where if you plan to invade, you know even grandmas will shoot a freaking rocket launcher at your tank. Would you want to go there?
And people seem to know this is done for them. They recently voted in a crushing proportion to keep compulsory military service.
Have they attacked anyone in the last 100 years? Got involved in a conflict? Nope. Yet, they keep themselves out of all this by training everyone. A bit counter intuitive to arm yourself in order to keep out of conflicts. But this is how it works. Well done to them.

I remember saluting the news that Sweden wants to switch to this system of compulsory military service. This girl that usually gets triggered by anything, also got triggered about me saying "good on them"(the Swedes).
She looked at me, face all red almost screaming "what?". I simply ignored her.

If it's gonna happen? Highly unlikely to be honest. There is indeed a certain animosity and stress, mostly from Russia and then the situation with Syria.
But I do believe "wars" will from now on be economical. As you noticed, there are sanctions that everyone uses to threaten others. Maybe we will have more "cyber-wars". Some say that the ransom virus which locked computers all over the world, came from Ukraine. Not sure how true, but I do hope they'd do this and target the big Russian companies as payback.

Getting back to old school war... NATO suddenly woke up and learned a lesson that they shouldn't rely on Trump.
I doubt US wouldn't back NATO if anything happens, but I am glad everyone in Europe realized, we need to invest in army. Like earlier said with Switzerland, let's just be prepared.

On the other hand I don't turn it down that this tension might be just a global bluff between world leaders in order to create a market for the weapons to be sold and for population to easily allow big spending

[behnam1999]

No one likes wars and I don't too. The emerging war that you are pointing out can be very very likely, I think. I can't say that with much certainty but it is almost inevitable. I want to live in peace, I don't want to be in a battlefield, no one likes that. But what about wars that are forced to your country by other countries? When I say country, I don't mean the people, I mean the leaders. Almost all those who were behind many conflicts in 20th century are still behind the conflicts which is going on in Middle East and other parts of the world. I think the only way to finish their plots and conspiracies is a war in the future and it will be started by the same people that I talked about. Sure many innocent people will be killed and battlefield is not really enjoyable, but I have a belief, if war is forced upon you and your nation and you are capable of fighting , you must fight for your country, in fact you shouldn't be indifferent. But before fighting try to find out the reality and who is really fighting for peace, then put yourself into the army of peace and fight to eliminate the oppressors of the world. It is the most honorable way to die. That ideal world, without wars never happens, at least for now.

[TheNotorious]

Really? you are afraid to be sent by your goverment to fight? What about fighting for your self. if ww3 breaks out im going int other woods i will live out of the nature. set up my own base with some of my loyal Friends that will probably be 2 or 1. hopefully by then i will have enough ammunation to repel a whole brigade army. And if somebody comes close to my base he will get shot its just how it is life is hard i actually think apocylapse is gonna come im already preparing im reading SAS survival guide right now Soon i will buy survival kits and backpack. life is fucked up, After you realise how fucked up it really is. Ee are stuck in a box we can't do any shit elites are controling us. I need to have revenge on those motherfucking elites! And that comes with a cost, The destruction of earth!
@JudgmentDay
i expect the apocylapse to be within 30-40 years probably 15-25 years from now after the oil will be dry Saudi arabia and more gulf states are going to collapse, Russian gas and oil, and will not last for ever either.

[DonkeyRick69]

Lol go were you want if the nukes don't get you the radiation a month later from the exploding nuclear reactors spewing into the atmosphere and water table will give you and every animal cancers and tumours and make you infertile. Better to blow your brains out.

[askaway2012new]

Chase, You couldn't survive without WIFI.

[TheNotorious]

@DonkeyRick69 nukes are way overated there have already been dropped over 1000 of nukes on this planets for testing and you come her talking about radiation. and its good if they can kill me the world will also be dead that means that i won. and what i mean with won is, all the suffer stopped.

[TheNotorious]

@DonkeyRick69 and that is my goal to stop all suffer in the world. so if the humans get wiped out its perfect because we fucked up this world.

[DonkeyRick69]

The world would survive you would not

[JudgmentDay]

@DonkeyRick69 Either way we humans can only postpone the inevitable for as longa s possible, that's for the survivors should the worst case scenario ever happen. But I learned to stay calm about it for now, as the Mutually Assured Destruction scenario is what continuously stalls and prevents anybody from being irrational and reckless, especially between the US and Russia. There had been moves and military drills made for quite some time now, if you look really deep into it you'll understand that it has absolutely everything to do with economics, the US dollar in particular and what it's geopolitical relationship is with the Middle East, and you would understand why the world is not getting along more than ever before. All in all I believe we are one major catastrophe or disaster such as a global financial disaster like that of another Great Depression away from an inevitable and unavoidable full scale global conflict. It's dire, but it's beyond our control.

[JudgmentDay]

@TheNotorious if it is possible and if you can build the connections and have the means to move, then move to another country. move somewhere as far down in the Southern Hemisphere. yes wide-spread nuclear radiation or worst case scenario such as a nuclear winter and there's not much anybody can really do about, as then we're all fucked. But, if you really want to try and delay the inevitable for as long as possible, consider moving further down south on the planet such as far as New Zealand, southeastern Australia, southern most part of South America or South Africa. Those are some of the places you can wait it out, at least in theory only. They are unlikely gonna be affected as directly even if nuclear war happened. But for right now, I still think in order for WW3 to be a reality, it still needs another Great Depression or financial disaster to happen FIRST to lead into it, just like the last two World Wars had. E. G. in 1907, Bankers' Panic, and in 1929 when Wall Street crashed.

[wolverinee]

i have these thoughts too my frnd. but i guess ornso i hope chances are declined and will further in coming years. for following reasons:
1. diplomacy has emerge as a powerful weapom nowdays.
2. globalisation has resulted in the co-dependence of almost every country to more or less to every other country and this is increasing day by day. so no country in the world wants to be isolated.
3. every country has weapons of mass destruction. its like a two edge sword. it can be bad if all countries decide to go stupid or it can help in keeping every country on thr tows and urge for diplomatic solution.
4. almost every country has enemies and frnds. this is very imp see the passive dispute between america and russia, india and pakistan, china with japan etc etc thes things make every country to seek frnds aomg others so it makes a circular loop which everyone is very scared to break.
5. and atlast science, the discovery and increasing belief on true concepts like evolution, space exploration, etc have resulted in everyone feeling little attached to earth and nature as a whole rather than only to religion and nation which are prime reasons of war.

so lets just finger cross and hope that we won't see any war ever again.

[JohnDoe3000]

Don't worry, if there's going to be a WWIII it will go nuclear so the women at home and even the leaders will be hit just as hard as the soldiers.

You are not alone in fearing WWIII is right around the corner, it's not such a minority belief at all, but you must understand you are very young so the problems you see seem more important than they really are when you place them in a historical context (half the time the economy is going to shit, and most of the time leaders of major powers don't agree with each other, yet most of the time there are no major wars). The world is more peaceful, more interconnected (socially and economically) than ever, and did I mention nukes?

[JohnDoe3000]

Also, often wars are about resources and the interests go beyond those of the leaders themselves. Often it's a small elite that profits but just as often it's the majority of the population that is affected, you see this especially in Africa where tribes go to war because there really isn't enough water or grazing grounds for everyone (population control is the long term answer, but obviously it's not something that would simply be fixed by just having the tribes' leaders hold a personal duel).

[Unit1]

We are all degenerates. Some are more, some are less. In the end we consume the earth and render this planet uninhabitable.

[JohnDoe3000]

Yeah, we are a bit like locusts, that's why we need good, smart leaders and an educated population. But we're getting there: most countries are (slowly) on the right track.

[Unit1]

Except i don't need a leader. I lead on my own. It's why i have also been a loner.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

I wouldn't trust anyone who says "it's not going to happen" there are so many self-professed experts it boggles my mind, really.
Yes, it could happen, Scientists have created a clock just for this and thanks to 1/4 of my country along with various representative voted into power an idiot it ticks closer still. I never watch the news, I don't pay attention to CNN, FOX or MSNBC, I, however, pay close attention to what scientists have to say and the stock, forex and commodity markets. Ultimately we are about 2.5 minutes from midnight on the doomsday clock. We need only 100 nuclear warheads to plunge the entire world into nuclear winter, a phrase first coined by Carl Sagan. This is a real and present danger and until American's get their heads out of their asses it will loom over everyone's head for a long time to come.

[Unit1]

We have more unused nuclear warheads than we need to wipe the entire planet from humanity.
If we have this many nuclear warheads ready, then what have we, the human race, come to? A fucking brink of war. One kills the other, the victims forces retaliate greater, which keeps snowballing until we start deploying nukes and ultimately annihilate all lifeforms on our planet. Not a square kilometer will be radiation free. Currently the crimean region in ukraine is a mess. This is fortunately only where it's at. Then we have ISIS but terrorists have always been a threat and if those terrorists will be defeated, then they will eventually be reborn in one way or another. Remember al-qaeda? Now we have ISIS. Next may be anything else.
I too never watch the news or TV because they fill my life with negativity, which I am trying to get out from.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

Watch things that make sense, documentaries, stock markets... raw data is what need's to be payed attention to, actions of governments as well but from new's sources that only give raw data; not overloading you with information.

[Unit1]

The media has always been full of shit, negativity, manipulation, lies and all of those combined.
I always look at the big picture.

[Bananaman177]

Gotta happen, buddy.

We should've finished it in WW1. WW2 was just a delay, and it was never FULLY concluded either, hence the Cold War, and it's attendant proxy wars in the Middle East and Asia and everywhere else through the meddling of various intelligence agencies that are mostly staffed at the highest levels by members of obscure secret societies.

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[JudgmentDay]

It's beyond any of our control. We're just average citizens in the world working and struggling day by day to get by. The development of powerful weapons like nuclear weapons which could lead to the worst case scenario of Mutually Assured Destruction if they were ever used had changed the way war is fought forever, thus it became the Cold War. Instead of fighting each other directly, it became indirect battles using covert means and clandestine operations by the US and the Soviet Union. All in all it's expected because of our species volatile nature. There will always be war for as long as people exist. Simply because of the growth and expansion of our species population and because we continuously consume resources, thus it's unavoidable. The more of us there are then the more we're gonna drain the limited amount of resources on this planet thus when resources becomes scarce, well you get the idea.

[JudgmentDay]

Nations of the world are going to fight each other over resources, always had been that way, always will be that way. It's a dog eat dog world, none of us can really do anything about it. And yes I forgot to mention through proxy wars as well, since the global superpowers just isn't willing to fight each other directly, at least not yet, and not at this point, but they're all getting ready when and should the time that it finally happens. The world is never going to get along, but to udnerstand the proxy wars in the middle east, one need to understand the history of the US dollar, from the Bretton-Woods System, the Nixon Shock and then the Petrodollar Recycling System and then look for additional information about OPEC nations such as Iraq, Iran, and Libya and then you'd get the clear picture of so that's why this is happening and why it's unavoidable.

[MargaritaPeach]

War is such an enormous waste of the planets' resources! I realize that tyrants need to be stopped, but you would think that by now we would have found a less lethal way to get the tyrannical leaders out of office and have everyone else get along and come to terms with each other. Why is the entire planet so cut-throat?

[Unit1]

Exactly. Our social structure does not allow for improving our global situation. The governments have full control like a mafia and they have their forces. We are just being caged in their laws.

[Idontevenknow444]

the biggest tyrant sits in the oval office. thats how you stop whats going on. Unit, you have a good head on your shoulders unlike a lot of these pro war idiots who dont see people from other countries as people but enemies. Hopefully people like you can overcome this mess

[Idontevenknow444]

but right now in places like syria, they are already having a world war 3.

[MargaritaPeach]

@Idontevenknow444 and look at Venezuela, where the people are being denied aid by their own government and are living in the most desperate if situations.

[Idontevenknow444]

I've seen that and its very disgraceful but look at who makes that possible in the first place. Whats that rich guy who got caught funding that mess? did he ever get held accountable for the countless deaths of innocents in that country when police were raiding houses and killing entire families? no. Same with koch brothers, the funders of iraqs war. they get off with no punishment..

[Unit1]

@Idontevenknow444 thanks for that compliment. Wishing you good luck as well to overcome the media controlled mess.

[JudgmentDay]

@MargaritaPeach "Why is the entire planet so cut-throat?"

Because of resources, because those resources are limited on this planet, it's bound to happen sooner or later, one way or another and because of ambitions, the desire to retain and maintain dominance and influence or increase it in the world.

And more importantly, regarding the stuff that's going on is relevant to the economic situation worldwide, specifically the global financial system. If you understand the relationship between the US dollar and the global oil supply then you'll have a better understanding of why things had been happening the way they had been happening in the Middle East region. It is about currency.

[Dale1982]

It's not nations doing anything it's elite bankers like the Rothschild who thinkntheyre gods when in fact they're creatures, who make war happen to make profit and to gain economic leverage. The jews are the world's enemy and they want rid of Arabs. It'll start in the middle East and it'll be a coalition but that won't happen until the next 9/11 in Europe. So get ready. Dont fight for them though. Forget about fighting for a flag and country. America doesn't exist anymore. Your fighting for rich, greedy bastards. If they give you a weapon turn it on them.

[JudgmentDay]

@Dale1982 That's the reality of it all now, others are too asleep to realize it that somebody's reaping in big bucks and profits and these wars are just rackets that someone else is completely benefiting from. I guess you'd agree with how someone shouldn't fight, die, and kill for oil, or for money, and especially NOT FOR BEING TOLD WHAT IS RIGHT then?

Reference from this video at 3:50: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMpuUUV2HeE

So if you had to fight, kill, and die for something or a cause, then would you agree to only fight, kill and die for WHAT YOU BELIEVE? Would you stand up for what you believe, because you seem like you would. If they ever issued a draft and you were drafted, then would you do the same thing that Muhammad Ali did and tell them that the answer is NO!

[Dale1982]

@JudgmentDay is go to jail and be called a traitor, the usual shite. Even the police who enforce these things are just lied to constantly and think they're being patriotic by jailing a traitor and somebody whonwont fight for his people. I'd die for my people to protect them in fact is doe for any innocent person needing protection. What I won't lift a finger to do is to protect greedy, racketeering, propaganda mongering mutants who are parasites on the ordinary people of the human race. Our species can't move forward and flourish whilst the banking dynasties and the corrupt politicians and their laptop security forces still are in charge of all the systems. Theyre not benevolent leaders, they're evil through and through. All they have is money and they will sacrifice all of our lives tl protect their position and their wealth. Theyve killed so many in the past its a tragedy. There's too much me and I in this world and they're encouraging the weak amongst us to be the same

[JudgmentDay]

@dale1982 so you would stand up to them and tell them the answer is no if another world war ever were to happen then? IIRC those that said no to induction during the Vietnam war eventually received pardoned for it, though most got prison time and fines.

Doubt it would be the same for a global full scale conflict though. The longer it doesn't happen the better. Aren't those between ages 18 to 25 are prioritized if and when it ever actually happens? Those that are in their late 30s or older might not be affected by one as much, at least not in the beginning. But you never know, because in the second World War at one point, everybody up to age 64 are eligible to be drafted, but I don't know if that includes eligibility or whether it is completely mandatory for them to fight on the front lines overseas. Since desperate times leads to desperate measures. But that war was a completely different situation compared to how it would be now.

[Dale1982]

@JudgmentDay don't panic though. You won't see another world war until then the bourgeoisie knkw they're completely safe and they can guard all their I'll gotten gains. The good thing is they're total shitebags and would doe of heart failure if somebody let off a firecracker in the same room as them. The nuke thing is too big a wildcard that's why there hasn't been one yet

[JudgmentDay]

@dale1982, pretty much, full scale nuclear war is hard to ever happen since nobody rational enough would ever fire off the first shot no matter how desperate they are, since they know that what follows can't be reversed and it only results in mutually assured destruction in which nobody wins and billions would die, only someone that reckless, crazy and irrational would ever not consider those consequences as it's terrifying for all. Thus so far these powerful weapons had been used for nothing other deterrents and experiments instead of actual combat, unlike when they had been first used against Japan in retaliation for what they had done to Pearl Harbor.

[JudgmentDay]

@dale1982 Leaders of the world knows how difficult to impossible it would be to ever recover from a nuke war compared to any other form of warfare, you can say the same for bio-weapons as they can backfire just as easily, especially if they were some really contagious weaponized form of influenza like "Captain Trips" from Stephen King's The Stand.

I think that if a nuke war ever were to happen in the future it might be specifically just smaller tactical nuke weapons used instead of those megaton huge nukes like ICBMs, and that those tactical nukes would probably be used specifically against military targets like concentrated on enemy bases and installation instead of civilians in cities, as mutually assured destruction is no-win situation for all parties involved. Thus victory might be determined by whom took out the most bases of whom first and their communications instead of needing or relying a substantial amount of soldiers on the ground to fight on the front lines.

[Bezbozhnikustanka]

@JudgmentDay I think Ali was a coward, he should've gone to Vietnam, then shot all the guys in his unit and switched sides, that would've been heroic.

[JudgmentDay]

@Bezbozhnikustanka but that's not what he believed in, otherwise he would have done that or considered it, and agreed with induction. It's always about perspective. Some will say he's a coward, others will say he stood up for what he believe in not for what is being forced upon him and for being told "what is right".

If he wanted to do what you said, he would have done so or at least considered it.

Either way the point is that he didn't want to be told what to do, didn't want to be told whom, where, how, and what to fight, and told that it is "right" to fight in that war.

My point is this, "It is not the message that is important; it is our obedience to it"

There are others that probably did the same thing and refused to obey and refused to give into induction simply because they DON'T AGREE with the war, but they all probably got prison time and fines. Ali didn't exactly go to prison for it since he appealed it in court, but he did pay fines and his boxing license was suspended

[Bezbozhnikustanka]

@JudgmentDay He supported the war, what do you think the government did with the money they fined him? They gave it to the Marines so they could buy weapons to murder the poor bloody Vietnamese, the Yanks had no right to be in Vietnam, everyone who joined the US armed forces deserved to die.

[JudgmentDay]

@Bezbozhnikustanka Then you can say the same for all tax payers. Tax money is reinvested back into military spending, etc. Can't evade taxes either way. Either way they couldn't escape the penalties and/or prison time. Without a doubt the government fined many other people that are unwilling to give in to induction at that time.

The government, the big corporations, the banks, the military industrial complex, big energy and oil giants had always been working together serving their own best interests and not the interests of the people, never had and never will and that's just the cold hard truth. Everybody else at the bottom are all nothing more than pawns to them.

[Dale1982]

@JudgmentDay there was never an end to the British empire either. Things only exist if capital is invested in them. The British empire just went underground and invested and merged with America. Hell wealth from the Roman days still circulates in this world. Investors are like rats, they seek safe harbours where they flourish. Forget flags and countries and all that shit. Borders are just like fences for the human cattle. The financial empire they've built spans the globe and it's heart is in the city of London, it's enforcement wing is in Washington and its lies centre is in the Vatican. All island stares with their flags, laws, crests and leadership. Read about the city, it doesn't answer to anybody not even Westminster. Wait till you peel the layers of the onion and see how horrifically rotten and diseased it is inside. You'll get a shock at the truth of this world. That's why it's ending. Once the core is exposed it starts to degenerate

[Phoenix98]

It's not gonna happen so don't worry about it.

Also the news only concentrates and reports on the shitty news in the world while completely ignoring all the good news. So of course the world is gonna look far worse then it is.

[JudgmentDay]

Until a real economic collapse or another great depression happens first, I doubt it. I mean did the last two World Wars just break out all of a sudden? Nope, they didn't. It had been this pattern in the past: severe financial disasters happen first, then a sparking event, which then war breaks out full scale. Even after financial disasters such as 1907's Bankers' Panic and 1929's Wall Street crash happened, it still took quite some time before the wars broke out full scale and ONLY after the sparking events of both which became their points of no return. So until when the economic collapse finally happens, then it's expected, but not immediate, then history is going to repeat itself again with that pattern. History repeating itself happens. So far the MAD scenario is what holds it back from ever happening, and thus it had only been an ongoing new cold war with multiple proxy wars. Nobody is irrational and reckeless enough to say fuck it and start a nuclear war, so we're good for now.

[Phoenix98]

@JudgmentDay Stop enticing fear based on your personal theories please.

[JudgmentDay]

@Phoenix98 Either way it's beyond our control. Could anybody really could have done anything at all to prevent the disasters that happened before? Maybe, they're debatable. Could anyone really see what was coming? They sure didn't see the great depression coming when it finally happened. But me and @Unit1, we got more pessimistic outlook of this kind of a world, same goes for @TheNotorious. Because to us this is a world in which we all have to suffer and then die, thus we find it absurd, simply because it wasn't our idea or choice to come into this world to begin with, and we had agree that it does not make sense for us to put someone into this world and have to go through all of these experiences in which they might not like from us, etc. All we really can do is survive as long as we could with whatever we have, there's really not a whole lot more. I told him, unless he got money, the resources or connections, move somewhere else, and if not, then there's really not a whole lot more

[JudgmentDay]

that he can actually do about it. Because, if I had the resources and connections then I'd relocate somewhere in the lower southern hemisphere myself. That's what I would do. As of now, I don't, and I'm caught up and tied up in my own business anyway. Either way just take it easy live one day at a time, things happen beyond our control, we can only do so much either way.

[Unit1]

I got rid of the TV and news in beginning 2010 and never have looked back. Now i am just watching what i want online.
People feed on this news shit like breakfast. I don't get what they are doing it for. It fills them with full negativity and disharmony. Ugh.

[Bezbozhnikustanka]

Bring it on! Let's nuke the shit out of this lousey planet, I'd rather see the human race go extinct than live in a world where a lucky few, Donald Trump, Kim Kardashian, The Queen and Roman Abramavich are rich and happy but I'm poor and misseriable. If we can't created a world of justice and equality better we eradicate the human race.

[Unit1]

I fully agree actually.

[JudgmentDay]

@Bezbozhnikustanka If only eradication was immediate and completely painless. Humans can go, but the planet and everything else on it should stay, they were fine as they were and should had been left as it was as they really had no need for us to join in and become involved. In other words, the world wasn't broken, damaged nor harmed in the way it is until humans came around and really fucked things up real bad over the course of their entire history. Our planet really have no place or need for us and it could have done just completely fine without us ever being part of it. We might need our planet, but it really has no need for us. Justice and equality are merely concepts and delusions we humans thought of and made up.

[vonasaurus]

i say, if 2 countries don't get along, their leaders should fight to the death.

no sense sending tons of innocent young men and women to die because two people got their knickers in a twist.

[Unit1]

That's what i am saying, lady 😊

[SuccessfulHornDog]

So we'd want to elect the youngest strongest man that we can to be our leader. Forget having a women president, forget having an older, wiser person as well

[JudgmentDay]

@vonasaurus That's why I think the ones that are able to think for themselves and doubt and question things would be like Muhammad Ali even if they were ever drafted to fight, they would disobey and refuse to bow down and fight and kill and die just simply because THEY HAD BEEN TOLD TO DO SO, or that they had been TOLD THAT IT IS RIGHT. It's getting really tiresome that they can't work things out entirely through talks, negotiations, diplomacy, politics, etc. instead of having to make the average citizens of the world pay the fucking price for their fuck ups.

[Mister_Hangry]

The leaders and their children

[DonkeyRick69]

Not worried unless Hillary overthrow democracy and starts the war she wanted over Syria, Russian lgbt rights and feminism lol

[Underduress]

Contrary to popular belief WW3 is survivable for the individual if prepared. The fallout is manageable and even some simple prepared structures can get you through it. It is worth the research. World instability has been exponential over the past 10 years and the likely hood is high.

[JudgmentDay]

@Underduress maybe it's survivable if "only" tactical nukes are used instead of nukes that are in the megatons, since tac nukes are smaller, more accurate and have dial-able yields and if only military targets are prioritized and majority of all civilian locations are ignored, then possibly, you'd be right. But if it's like every single damn ICBM nuke fired away and going off like seen in Terminator movies, then I don't know man. Because that's gonna be real ugly. If that was the case then it's more so if you have the means and can afford a really good nuclear fallout doomsday bunker with tons of supplies and equipment as the majority don't have that kind of money to ever prep, as it can become really expensive, as some doomsday shelters costs billions of dollars.

And besides everything that comes after is questionable about survivability, such as famine, chaos, etc. from a nuclear winter. You'd only be delaying and post-poning the inevitable if that were to happen.

[Underduress]

@JudgmentDay All good points but still worth the try, it could be limited. For example if you are not at ground zero the fallout decreases 98% in 24 hours. So if you had bags filled with dirt and stacked the into an igloo shape and hid inside for 24 hours you would survive that part. It doesn’t take as much as you might think- only 3 ft dirt required. Then of course there is the starvation part and you will have to struggle to make it no doubt. You would need to have supplies for several months. Let me just say many are ready for this.

[Underduress]

48 hours not 24

[JudgmentDay]

@Underduress I mean no average citizen in the world can afford to live in something like this:

www.forbes.com/.../

48 hours behind big mound of dirt enclosed like an igloo? is that without moving much or at all? sounds really uncomfortable, but you're right about ground zero, the further you are away from the blast zones the better, and the smaller the nuke is then the less to worry about.

[DanoMR98]

War in the 1st and 2nd world is no longer fought with guns, friend.

It's fought with subversion, sanction and destabilization.

Those who want America destroyed aren't readying bombs, they're looking to widen the cracks in it's culture and identity with Islam, Marxism, Feminism, Globalism, Political Correctness, etc.

[NerdInDenial]

We are always near the brink of war, but that's just human nature. There will always be people wanting to kill you or kill your lifestyle. What do you do then? Peace is always and should be the highest aspiration of everyone, but there are evil people in this world. In fact, we know there are bullies in this world. That is one of the purposes of the military.

[Other_Tommy_Wiseau]

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[IsenhowerJ]

War is not fun for anyone, no one wants it due to high casualties and costs. Look at WW1 and WWII, both were devastating and during the Intermediate period between the two, countries tried to make the other happy but someone always got screwed in the end and war broke out. No one wants war, you are not the first to voice this opinion either and you will not be the last.
Peace is usually always wanted but there is always ONE who wants to bully the others.