If you're an animal lover, you shouldn't support factory farming.

[flashrex]

To clarify, factory farming is a method of agriculture that cheapens the way we acquire animal products at the cost of the animal's comfort. Most species of livestock have intelligence equal to that or greater than dogs themselves, so if you support the deaths of livestock but an animal not viewed as food such as a dog, cat, or horse, then that'd be hypocrisy.

You can watch Dominion (2018) Full Documentary for free on Youtube for more context.

#veganism #animals

Benefits of veganism:

-Lab-grown meat is healthier

-On a plant-based diet we could thwart global warming by a huge margin as cows produce methane which is one of if not the biggest contributors to the destruction of the ozone layer. It's very environmentally friendly.

-Plants can help you live longer and become overall healthier (that is if you ate the correct diet)(It's great for your skin too)

-You're less likely to acquire chronic diseases

-Millions of animals could be saved from needless suffering

-Processed/red meats aren't healthy for you, as they are dubbed a group 1 carcinogen by the World Health Organization

-Plant-derived foods don't have to taste like utter garbage. There are plenty of online vegan recipes and meat alternatives that you could try.

My sources:

-Any Earthling Ed/CosmicSkeptic vegan-related video

-livescience.com / 7-perfect-survival-foods

-chooseveg.com / 7 facts you probably didn't know about vegans

-who.int (World Health Organization) / questions and answers / cancer carcinogenicity fo the consumption of red meat and processed meat

[Chelsdope0]

I agree

[ADFSDF1996]

I respect animals too but I am not some pinko vegan Commie that is more interested in enforcing a green dictatorship than actually helping animals. You political vegans

• Scapegoat Asians as being the primary animal abusers in the world
• care more about animals than humans
• You people even cheered at the start of the Covid pandemic when many Chinese people either perished or were forced into quarantine because that meant there was less pollution coming China.
• Try to find some type of correlation between the environment and feminism
• Attack Christianity for no reason
• Try to force veganism onto people
• Promote forced collectivism
• Trying to make people eat insects
• Trying to find a way to make carnivorous animals vegetarian

https://www.reddit.com/r/insanepeoplefacebook/comments/ec53p8/this_person_thinks_humans_should_teach_lions_how/

[ADFSDF1996]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9654d4dwVmw
Apparently pollution reduction is more important than human lives to you environmentalists

[ADFSDF1996]

And I know that there is good vegan food, I just don’t like the group think authoritarian attitude of political vegans. There’s nothing wrong with veganism as long as it’s not being forced onto people.

[Anonymous]

Vegans are turning into a cult at this point.
They are selling the evil / dark agenda with the pretext for human health , ozone layer , global warming bullshit…etc etc
Sure some fall into easily it especially younger people or YouTube people who want to make money out of this cult promoting vegan scam and lab meat and cheese and eggs and bacon and steak.
If you don’t like meat than why imitate all this goodies into a lab meat milk etc don’t get it.


What’s sad is seeing babies and toddlers getting fed GMO broccoli and synthetic lab made fake cheese eggs etc those parents don’t even give them a choice to chose between meat and fake meat~
Those parents deserve to choke and die and meet death quickly because - they love animals more than their - human baby !


When I die bugs and animals will eat me too ~ and with all my respect they can. I did my life/cycle in this earth they can feed off of me too. Just like I did.

[flashrex]

I understand if you don’t like eating plants, but you haven’t exactly disproved the evidence I provided within my text. If anything you’ve only provided pathos in your argument, so how about you start by why veganism is wrong in the first place?

[Guy13]

Whatever, you starve while I eat. See how you are when shortages hit in 3 months. No complaints from Animal Rights crowd. 🤷🏻‍♂️.
There’s grass for a short while longer and acorns so do hurry up before the Canadian geese snd squirrels 🐿 get your food source

[monorprise]

I am biased toward the human imaginal and the economic reality is without the factory farm among other modern farming techniques many if not most of us human could not afford to eat.

[ChefPapiChulo]

Lmao. You have an opening statement but nothing to support it. Just “watch this documentary”

LMAO

[flashrex]

I have multiple sources that you must’ve somehow missed at the end of the take. I’ve even explained my claim when I said “to clarify” but yet you still somehow think I’m not supporting it. Read it again.

[A_Bell]

I love animals. They are delicious.

[flashrex]

Would you eat a dog, cat, or horse then?

[A_Bell]

Would you eat a cockroach or maggots?

[flashrex]

I don’t eat bugs or animals. I’m vegan. Can you not dodge my question though?

[A_Bell]

What do you think are in grains. There are bug parts mixed in. Every fruit and vegetable too, especially organics.

[flashrex]

You still haven’t answered my first question

[flashrex]

But to address your other question, Even if that was true what does that prove? The point of veganism isn’t to erase suffering because that’s impossible. The point of veganism is to minimize suffering as much as possible. If you had only two choices between the death of one dog or the death of two dogs and couldn’t choose anything else what would you choose? Veganism is the same idea. There may be small bugs that might die or even end up in the food, but do you think farming them, torturing them alongside with animals is better?

[A_Bell]

My question answered your question because veganism is built on a lie, and impossibility and a hypocricy.

It's a lie becsuse they do kill animals and use the products of animals. Insects are animals. Rats are animals. Vermin are animals. All of these are ground up and processed to a measurable degree in the processing of all plant materisl.

It is an impossibility because it is imposdibe to eat anything without competition which leads to the death snd occasional incorporation of insects and vermin.

It is hypocrisy because they say "would you eat a dog" drawing the line artificially at a pet when they are fine with rats, moles and cockroaches dying. So they are also making choices.

Cats are obligate predators and make bad food animals. Dogs eat their own fiflth and will keep your cat box clean and have a lean physique that makes for low quality meat.

I'd try horse if in a country where it was a staple. Horses aren't really economical animals to raise for food.

[PetiteBabe64]

@A_Bell 😂 do you eat bugs 😂
Here’s your entree:
I didn’t ask for Bugs I am Vegan not a Supporter of Killing and consuming innocent Bugs 🐜 poor little Ant 🐜 poor little cockroach 🪳 has to Walk all that way to Get anywhere in life. The world is so big to us Humans. But it is much bigger to Bugs 🐜 there so tiny. Imagine waking up and being as small as a little innocent Ant 🐜

[flashrex]

@A_Bell you just completely ignored my previous explanation. Do you think vegans WANT to have byproducts inside our food? The FDA only limits a certain amount of bugs in our meal, that doesn’t mean we go out of our way to eat them. Answer this question: who do you think is killed and tortured more? A - A vegan food system where only a few bugs are byproducts in the food or B - A meat system where livestock shit and other waste INCLUDING bugs can make it into our food system?

[flashrex]

Another question: Would you eat a human?

[A_Bell]

Am I trapped in the Andes after a plane crash?

Context matters. (See "Alive".)
No. Humans are not bred to be food and canabalism is discouraged at even the genetic level since it spreads disease and harms the species.

The animals we eat are raised for that purpose. Without that, they would go extinct or nearly so.

[flashrex]

Are you aware that processed and red meats are considered a group 1 carcinogen according to the World Health Organization? Animal meat isn’t as healthy either.

[Anonymous]

PITA alert! Lol

When are you nutters going to start trying to concert carnivorous animals to veganism? LMAO!

[flashrex]

We don't try to do that because they're biologically required to eat meat, as the word carnivorous suggests. With that said can you try to disprove the claims and evidence I listed? I'd implore you to keep an open mind and look at each one of them.

Also, I forgot to add another source which is a youtube video by SciShow: Cutting Beef Could Reduce Emissions. No, Like, a Lot - SciShow

[Opinion Owner]

Humans are omnivores. They can and always have eaten animal protein. There are benefits to humans of eating animal proteins to some degree, as long as it's not too much, which can be unhealthy. It's difficult to get all the same nutrients from a 100% plant based diet. Not impossible, but difficult. That should tell you something. Our ancestors are meat because they had to in order to survive. That's the official human history... not the PITA approved one.

But regardless, the fact is meat and fish taste fantastic, and there is no valid reason not to eat it. And people like you are always going to be viewed as pathetic when you try to push your ideology based on some notion of kindness to animals.

[flashrex]

Let me go through your response point by point. If we're truly omnivores, then why do we have to cook meat instead of eat it raw? Are you saying our stomachs can digest meat easier than plants? It's not at all difficult to get nutrients from a plant-based diet if you watch what you eat, as many of my sources have stated. Besides, most Americans are deficient in vitamin A, vitamin C, vitamin D, iron, and magnesium, so it's not like it'd be worse than what most people are eating (though it is VERY healthy). Name any nutrient and I can give you one or two vegan foods that are jampacked with it. And as I said before in my explanation, not all vegan foods are bland and lifeless. There are countless recipes, and vegan stores you can research online that'll give you amazing foods that are all plant-based, such as beyond meat. I could send you multiple vegan foods I found off Instagram alone. If it's better and healthier than animal meat, then there's really no good reason for you to keep eating animals. As for your last comment, you're completely wrong that people will always view veganism as "pathetic" considering our numbers are steadily growing and many activists have sprouted up in the years such as Ed Winters or Alexander O'Connor/CosmicSkeptic both of whom have done TedTalks regarding animal cruelty and veganism.

Also for the record, it's not PITA, it's PETA. I don't like that company either, so it's pretty disingenuous to lump me into their beliefs.

[Redstang88]

Life’s too short to eat lousy food

[flashrex]

I said it before in the explanation but you don't have to eat horrible-tasting foods when you're vegan. There're plenty of tasty (and healthy) vegan alternatives to meats to the point where you wouldn't really be missing out on anything. You can research vegan stores near you, find them online, or cook them yourself. It's really easy in all honesty. Here's a list of some vegan food sources if you're interested:

healthline. com / nutrition / foods-vegans-eat

Playlist Recreating Mcdonald's Food Vegan Style: Vegan McDonald's - Thee Burger Dude

Youtube: 75 Foods You Wouldn't Expect To Be Vegan - ashley wicka

Book On Building A Better Diet: amazon. com / How-Not-Die-Discover-Scientifically

Some pro tips:
Shop WHOLE plants at your grocery store as they're extremely healthy. For variety try beyond-meat burgers. If you don't like supplements you can always just eat plants that are high in B12 and create different recipes from them such as beans. DoorDash & Grubhub have vegan options too.

[Redstang88]

No, there really isn’t. Vegans are just lying to themselves telling people that crap tastes the same

[flashrex]

Have you even eaten vegan food?

[Redstang88]

Yeah

[flashrex]

I doubt you’ve tried all of it or most of not all the ones I listed. You haven’t told me whether those tasted bad to you or not.

[Redstang88]

Of course I haven’t, have you tried every food out there?
Of course there’s some decent vegan food, I don’t have meat in every meal. But trying to pass of these alternatives as anywhere as good as the real thing is just bullshit. Most don’t taste bad, they just don’t really have any taste at all

[flashrex]

I hope one day you can see the irony in saying you’ve never tasted all vegan foods and in the next breath say they’re all “fake” or “not the real thing” or “don’t have any taste in them at all”.

[Redstang88]

What irony? Just saying all the “meat substitutes” have about as much flavour as cardboard. There’s decent vegan dishes of course, but if you’re trying to pass off ground up beans and cauliflower as a burger it just ain’t the same