The Dilemma That Women Face: Dating in the 2020s

[DexWest]

So, anyone that has followed me for any amount of time knows that I like doing myTakes on topics relating to relationships, marriage, and dating. This is my next one that I have written in the series. I hope you enjoy. For repeated reference, this is not a targeting against any person, place, or thing, but merely an observation on the current state of dating, relationships, and marriage. This will most likely turn into a multipart series and I will be doing another myTake on the female perspective as a counterpart to this piece, but it may take a while.

A lot of women's worst nightmare is the day where men wake up and realize their worth. “Quite quitting,” was a term that was trending a while ago where underpaid and undervalued employees started putting in the absolute bare minimum effort into their jobs. They worked just enough to maintain their positions. No more and no less. They did not volunteer for extra duty and made sure not to go above and beyond in anything that they did. There is now a parallel phenomenon occurring in the dating scene today where an ever-growing number of men have gotten to the point where they have become disillusioned with a lot of women because the veil has been lifted.

Men are now checking out of relationships that no longer serve as assets to their life but rather as liabilities. Men have seen the lack of gratitude and reciprocity they encounter on a consistent basis from the other side. Unfortunately, we've built a society where men hear terms like "toxic masculinity" and "patriarchal oppression" constantly thrown around in public discourse while they work themselves to the bone trying to provide food, shelter, and other necessities for their families. Men are tired of being gas lit and shamed for their masculinity and nature and it's causing them to revolt against the same system that is holding them to unrealistic expectations. They see the complimentary balance of gender shifting way too far and they've become tired of being the main ones holding up their end of the bargain. A lot of women have fallen into the trap of measuring men by impossible standards because their expectations have ballooned from the constant revolving door of Hollywood and free social media validation. Men are struggling to keep up and they are sick and tired of having to prove themselves repeatedly just to ensure the love and the loyalty of their woman.

The perfect example of this is marriage. I asked a question a few days ago as to if users were interested in marriage if they were single, if you’re married, would you do it again, Why or Why not?. Most people said no, they have no desire to get married. The issue is not about reality, but the perceived reality. Ladies, ask any man if there is any purpose to marriage, and I would probably guess that there is about a 75% chance that they are going to say no. A simple google search of “Rates of Divorce by Gender” comes up with the answer that 70% of divorces are filed by women. Most people, especially men do not see there being a benefit to marriage anymore. There is a 70% change that you will lose half of your stuff. Prenups aren’t even a sure thing anymore because the person who has all the assets could have a motion filed against them in court to have it thrown out because their spouse only signed it under duress.

A lot of it can be traced back to the proliferation of the dating apps which have hollowed out human relationships and have virtualized the dating marketplace. This combined with a welfare state that does act like a safety net for repeated bad decisions and a lack of accountability has incentivized promiscuity while simultaneously breaking down and demonizing traditional gender roles at the expense of long term synergistic and wholesome relationships between men and women. Masculine men are the guarding the walls of our society and they have done an outstanding job holding it together even though they have been continuously shamed for the very qualities that make them men. In turn, they ask for recognition for their efforts, yet society has failed to do justice to their sacrifice and perseverance in the face of all their adversities.

The relationship dynamic between men and women is supposed to be comprised of a beautiful complimentary synergy. It is not supposed to be a tug of war where both sides stretch each other out in an attempt to compete. This is the sad reality of dating and relationships that many men find themselves in. Women, in their quest for a vein sense of gender equality have truly forgotten what makes them attractive to men of caliber.

This is only my opinion, so you can take it with a grain of salt. The biggest issue that women face with this ongoing trend is the fact that the minority is the most vocal. What I mean by this is that the blue/red haired feminist that gets the 3 minutes on CNN, MSNBC, or covered by commentators on YouTube, make the biggest ripples in the pond. Personally, I believe that most people do not have time to freak out over things like the woman who was calling a guy feral and swearing that she was going to rip off his reproductive organs for looking at her in the gym. We have way too many other things to deal with in our day to day lives; however, when that happens, and these things go viral through Facebook, TikTok, twitter, etc. and very few women denounce it as going too far or being too extreme and there is no swift backlash from the average female who goes to the gym, then that is what men see and that becomes reality. It is the same thing for the women who say, “All men are pigs, all men are dogs, Kill all men”, etc. This has become the new normal and even though the average woman going about her life without any intent or belief in what the minority says, it ends up permeating through society and becomes the reality. It becomes your reality because we do not have any control over how people react to things. When the Gym Girl goes viral on social media, the reaction was a video I saw where a girl was doing squats. She went over her limit and could not get back up; however, she asked a lot of men around her for help with the weight. No one came over to help her because she had her phone recording, and they didn’t want to be labelled as the next gym creep.

A man wants his woman to be a place of solace and refuge. He does not want his partner to be another battle that he has to fight, but this is the current societal predicament, and as more and more men walk away from relationships, dating, and marriage, they are taking away the most important masculine qualities that women and society inevitably cherish and need.

For additional reading, please read these following articles.

https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/45-percent-women-are-expected-to-be-single-and-childless-by-2030

https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/nearly-a-third-of-men-under-30-arent-having-sex

https://nypost.com/2023/01/25/influencer-jessica-fernandez-admits-to-mistake-after-calling-out-creep-at-gym/

https://spectrumnews1.com/oh/columbus/news/2023/03/10/u-s--marriage-rate-plummets-nearly-60--over-the-past-50-years--study-reveals

[Unit1]

Solid material for the most part.

The current situation is that the ones with a penis are heavily penalized for getting married and divorced but can feel rewarded handsomely for just making somewhat big money and move to places like Thailand.

Marriage puts the one with a penis at a high risk with no gain and its expensive too. Why do it? I don't believe the "married men live longer" propaganda.

And the person with a penis, who makes at least adequate amounts of money can relish the beauties of life in Thailand and will hardly feel lonely for whatever reason. And that can feel tempting like a sirens song.

Of course people can chose what they want to do. My point being when one makes such an observation, why would anyone with at least a healthy amount of self-preservation and mindfulness on their life decide to go the high risk and no gain tormenting way?

[Unit1]

Thanks for MHO even though MHO are totally meaningless.

[Anonymous]

This is the dilemma both sexes face today, and the future does not look good. We have gone a long way down a very dark road, far enough that I don't believe there is any turning back. The outcome will be disastrous for the West.

[Lookingforthetruth]

Most women are taught by society that they are the prize and the man needs to earn them. Most men are taught that they need to work on themselves and always try to appease women and give into their demands. Look at Transgender athletes in women's sports. Many male allies came to support women and renounce the removal of trans from female sports. While, for years, men have talked about issues relating to unfair treatment in divorce laws and family court. Women have yet to voice their support regarding changes since it benefits them.

Another level of delusion can be seen with how women still expect men to approach, do 80% of the work in relationships and basically jester max for them; when she is getting far more out of the relationship than he is. So many delusional women are post wall, have kid (s) from previous relationships, have wasted their best years (18-24) on other men and still have are arrogant enough to expect guys to jump through hoops and prove themselves for her. She is not meant to do anything but judge and still act like she is a hot 25 year old even when she is 35+ and has very little to offer.

For example, Look at this delusional 35 year old woman on tinder with ridiculous demands for men.

She has limited reproductive window for any man that get her; and has already hit her first fertility hurdle at 32 years of age. So even if you jump through the hoops and get her as a girlfriend/wife, you are getting short change as a man. For a smart man would be asking, why has no guy wifed u up and you still single at 35? What kind of emotional and mental trauma will I have to endure and deal with if I get you? Are you even capable of pair bonding with me based on the amount of men you have slept with in the past? Will you have even more erratic and increase demands if i get into a relationship with you? Are you even physically attracted to me or am I the guy who ticks off all your check list for a husband and you can't afford to wait around anymore and need to get wifed up? Can u provide me with HEALTHY kids?

[Lliam]

Could some of the problems result from men who work themselves to the bone trying to provide food, shelter, and other necessities for their families but forget about their wife's non-material needs like affection, respect, love, devotion, and gratitude for their contributions?

It makes it sound like those men, who would be working for a living anyway, think that they should be worshiped for their money.

And, in exchange for their money, do they think they get to be the boss, the sole decision maker, the dominant head of the household? I know that I wouldn't put up with that shit if someone treated me like that.

So if it's women who most often initiate divorces, could their husband's behavior ever have anything to do with it?

If a woman is getting her emotional needs met, I doubt if she will be going on-line to listen to toxic shit about men or to seek out new love interests.

When it comes to dating, in what ways are men threatened by competition from women? The men in the example you gave about the gym were jerks. Did they want her to get hurt? All one of them had to do was take the weight from her. So what if she was filming herself exercising.

And why would a man feel threatened by a smart, motivated, hard working woman who can afford to support herself? Did she take their job? Are they looking for a timid virgin who is under 23, still lives with her parents, has no life experience, and is looking for a husband who will treat her like he's her daddy?

[Levin]

Do women select based on meeting her emotional needs though? I always think there is an opportunity cost to this. Americans always seem to talk about doing 60+ hour weeks, all the connotations with that, trying to be a success. And that is what allegedly (thankfully to not all women) makes a guy date-able. But realistically, it leaves very little energy to cultivate yourself in other regards. I do think women are trying to have their cake and eat it, here.

[Lliam]

@Levin. First, who talks about working 60+ hour weeks?

Are you implying that most women select men based solely on their income? In other words, those guys have nothing but money to offer. Those guys would be no fun at all.

And why would those kinds of guys oppose successful women but, instead, expect their partner to be their "staff". That's not a relationship, it's a business arrangement. And it puts the man in a superior position.

[msc545]

You forgot one important thing to some extent and that was the weaponization of the legal system against men and in favor of women. No man who gets divorced these days ever gets a fair hearing in any family law court in the country as far as I can tell. If he is lucky he walks out with at least half of his property and maybe some visitation with his children. He might even get to keep a little bit of his own money that he earned. If a man is not so lucky, he loses his money, his property, his children and his self-esteem after being essentially raped by the court. These things combined with what you say is the 70% filing rate by women and what I say is an 80% chance of divorce. Within the first 5 years after marriage, all combine to make marriage an extremely unattractive and frankly very stupid proposition for most men. The introduction of the very unfair me too tactic means that some men at least face the prospect of spending a considerable amount of time in jail or prison when they are convicted in a court of something they didn't probably do. Women almost always prevailing these cases even though the evidence is absent or scanty.

Women would never put up with this and men have gotten to the point where they're not going to put up with it either. Our only way of fighting back is to simply refuse to get married and often just refuse to have relationships with women at all.

[pethouse]

I feel The reason why more divorce in America is because society are still adjusting to women working (take no offense just read) working is still “newish” to women. For centuries it was men that provided food and shelter to take care of his family as a whole so she could take care and raise their children. Yeah women still worked like house hold chores and raising children. Maybe other stuff too depending on the social standards of the time and what needed to be done. Women now have to work roughly 40hrs a week like men do and biologically we are not equipped to that YET. In a lot of situations women are still the only ones raising the kids. We need to adjust to the new “norm”. just because it’s almost been 100 years sense women have to work 40hrs a week does not mean its not new. It is nothing compared to the rest of humanity’s history. We still need to adjust biologically to even things out once again. Men need to take responsibility and spend equally as much time with the kids as the mother and take on more house hold responsibilitys to where the work load is even again, And women need to be able to take a step back and let the father do what he now needs to do.
Men will say they “need a traditional wife” that takes care of the kids, cooks, and cleans but in reality for it to be traditional men would have to make enough money where she does not need to have an income.

[Anonymous]

Hmmmm. . . interesting take. Although I would say the "quiet quitting" analogy you make at the beginning is not a good one at all for dating relationships, but may apply to marriage.

With dating, there's never a reason for a guy (or a girl for that matter) to "quiet quit." If the relationship isn't meeting the needs of either person, that person should just walk. There's absolutely ZERO point in staying in a relationship that you're committed to half-assing. In that case, you're better off single, so break up.

The situation gets much more complicated for married people. More specifically for married people with kids. And at this point it's worth reviewing the relationship between marriage and kids. Here's my take:

The ENTIRE POINT of getting married is to provide the best possible environment in which to raise kids. Put another way: marriage is about kids. If you're not planning on having kids with someone soon, there's really no reason at all you should get married. Period.

So once you get married and have kids NOW the game becomes more interesting. Now if the relationship isn't great, you need to think of what's going to make for the best situation for your kids. If your relationship is a disaster for reasons like abuse or drugs, etc., then maybe the right answer IS to get divorced. Otherwise, it may well be to make things work as best you can for the befit of the kids.

[Finchie40]

Most girls in general are selfish people that only really care about themselves , Most girls will
Get into a relationship with a man only if it’s on her terms , meaning her way or no way , Most girl’s don’t grasp the concept of commitment , she won’t wear her man’s shoes like she expects him to wear hers, Now I am not saying every girl does this but a majority of them do. To keep a girl standing by you side you have to be able to be good and bad to her or she will get bored and spread her legs for another guy , Most divorces are intimated by girls’ because they are selfish and only really care about themselves ,, they usually have girlfriends that fill their heads that every guy is an asshole and that she needs someone better , leading her to cheat or fall for another man. My ass is staying single until I meet a girl that understands what commitment means , I no longer rush into a relationship with a girl because most of them are selfish , Guys don’t change but Girls do

[FunkyMonkee]

Girl meets asshole.
Girl falls in love with asshole!
Girl marries asshole.
Asshole begins to treat her like a piece of shit!
Girl divorces asshole!
Girl assumes that because ONE GUY fucked her over, even though ALL HER FRIENDS KNEW and TOLD HER that he was an asshole, that ALL men are assholes and can't be trusted!!
Girl meets nice guy.
Nice guy falls in love with her.
Girl treats nice guy like shit because she feels he'll do the same if she lets him get any closer!
Girls spends the rest of her life alone and not trusting men, no matter how kind they are to her, because of HER OWN bad decision!
Girl dies alone as an old maid!
Nice guy dies completely alone BECAUSE girl told al her girl friends that ALL men are assholes so, none will have ANYTHING to do with him!

[inhua]

the question is when will these "true feminists" come out and address these issues and by "true feminist" I'm referring to women who claim to be feminists and support actual gender equality via the reported definition of feminism

where are they fighting on behalf of men like they would fight on behalf of women?

couldn't care less about male feminists. they only care about their dicks and the only they way satisfy their dicks they know is to throw their fellow men under bus and act like a fake tough guy

[richardcory]

I find this confusing. People who don't want to date don't need to and no one should ever stay in a relationship if they are not happy, nor get into one that puts them in a situation where they can't leave.

I do agree that in a lot of ways the laws are stacked against men with regard to children - since in areas where abortion is legal, women have full control - but IMHO that is just dictated by biology. I would like to see child support laws changed, I don't believe in child support unless there has been a marriage or other contract.

But in general dating and relationships are optional.

[msc545]

They are only optional for men who have no libido and don't mind being lonely. How many men do you think fit in that category?

[richardcory]

@msc545 If people just want sex, its widely available as a transaction for cash or other compensation. Its also been true that for much of history, many men have been in situations where women were not available.

[msc545]

You are right - it is available for pay, but many men are reluctant to do this because of pride or the legal risk in most places. Just because women haven't been available in some situations does not make it tolerable or desirable at all.

[stepyo99]

I've said it before, I'll say it again. These modern issues with relationships will solve themselves.

The women who understand that feminism is an unhealthy and destructive world view and reject it completely will be raising the next generation.

The women who don't want to submit themselves to their husbands and who want to be a #bossbitch, will die miserable and alone with their two cats and wine collection.

Women are not equal to men, but they have an incredibly valuable role raising children and taking care of the household. Those women deserve the utmost respect and love, not bitter feminists who whine about equality, oppression, and patriarchy.

[TransPickle]

I'm almost 24 now and I've never had a relationship before. Sometimes I fear I will never find anyone. In real life I am attractive 6 foot 3 and everything probably a 7 but I have social difficulties (autism) and sometimes I wonder if it is natural selection because of my condition. My lack of finding anyone has made me question my gender (as well as a history of gender dysphoria) and what it even means to be a male anymore. The whole competing against other guys for women who don't really seem worth it anymore makes me want to throw the towel in so badly. I understand that I will never truly be a biological female however.

[chrissykerdock]

relationships are random... having a great chemistry is rare... and love is rare... experts say finding true love happens at an average of 1 out 2 lifetimes... we only live 1 at a time so you get how rare it is... you can blame the girl or the guy but in the end it's destiny and tremendous luck isn't it... and if you don't get there don't worry because it's rare as finding a diamond ring on a sandy beach.

[mattclark242]

I want get married I just have no one who want to get married. the first and last girl I was with just want me to get her thing to help her life and for me to get her stuff.

There just no one who like me twitter is full of fake super mode who want you get on some site.

but any no one like that I want a date or a relationship or care about them or want get married. when I like one no one like me back. so I just give up and stop careing.

[nastyb]

women initiate 70% of divorces because women tend to benefit less from marriage than men.

studies have shown that marriage benefits men far more than women.

[captain_voidwalker]

Name one benefit men get from marriage

[nastyb]

@captain_voidwalker

its been proven that married men earn more than single men.

however married women earn less than single women. married women also have less time and more stress than single women

[captain_voidwalker]

That has little to do with marriage itself. Married men earn more because they have more obligations to take care of thier wife and children. Married men also work on average 10 more hours per week than single men because they have to. By contrast Married women earn less because they have a husband that now supports them and they don't need to work as much.
Again this is not a benefit to men from marriage its a result of liabilities forced on a man from marriage.
So try again name a benefits men have from marriage

[nastyb]

@captain_voidwalker

married men earn more because he can dedicate more hours to his career since he has someone who does all his housework for him, does all his laundry, makes his lunch boxes and dinner. he can dedicate more time to advancing his career and education.

married women make less money because they are more likely to take time off work to take care of children. Despite the fact that married women work full time jobs and pay bills, they do the vast majority of the house work and child rearing duties. Men do minimal housework and child rearing duties.

[nastyb]

@captain_voidwalker

Married men live longer; married women, not so much: Study

h ttps://torontosun. com/health/married-men-live-longer-married-women-not-so-much-study

Married men take fewer risks and “calm down” and therefore are healthier than their single counterparts, whereas women did not see the same benefits. Women’s health was mainly unaffected by marriage, but middle-aged married women reported more mental and physical problems than single ones.

“You take less risks, you earn more money at work, and you live a little longer. She, on the other hand, has to put up with that, and she dies sooner than if she never married. The healthiest and happiest population subgroup are women who never married or had children,” Dolan said.

h ttps://www. foxnews. com/lifestyle/unmarried-women-live-longer-happier-survey

[captain_voidwalker]

That's bullshit how long does it take to pack a lunch and toss a load of laundry into a machine
An hour maybe 2. I know you ladies aren't cooking for him because I can burn water and still cook better than any women I've ever dated.
No married men earn more because they have a screaching harpy at home cracking a whip demanding he earn more whilst complaining that he dosen't spend enough time with her.

[DexWest]

Nastyb, The American Time Use Survey only has a sample size of 26000 per year. Furthermore, it is self reported, which anyone that has taken an entry level college research class knows, is the most unreliable type of study. I can publish a survey of high schoolers that says "Students smoking weed is near 0% from a decade ago. That doesn't mean anything if the high school students lied on the survey. That is why the article also said, "Dolan, a best-selling author whose most recent book, “Happy Ever After: Escaping the Myths of the Perfect Life,” analyzed data from the American Time Use Survey (ATUS), found that married people said they were happier overall, but only when their partner was within earshot." Now, realistically, a sample size of 26,000 is appropriate for a population of approximately 6.8 million; however, the required population to accurately get a 95% accuracy rate among the population would require a sample size of 1,277,815, which does not happen because not study would ever get done. As a result, they do smaller sample sizes and extrapolate the result. That in itself is extremely biased because I can very easily bias the data purely on location alone. If i asked 385 people in San Francisco about gun control v. 385 people in texas, I'm going to get two entirely different results.

[nastyb]

@captain_voidwalker

[That's bullshit how long does it take to pack a lunch and toss a load of laundry into a machine
An hour maybe 2. I know you ladies aren't cooking for him because I can burn water and still cook better than any women I've ever dated.]

How long does it take to grocery shopping, eun errands, iron clothes, cook breakfast, lunch and dinner, fold clothes, mop the floor, pick the kids up from school, tutor the kids, bathe the kids, feed the kids, put the kids to bed, bring them to school?

Do you think you can just do everything in 2 hours?

[nastyb]

Women Are Working More Than Ever, But They Still Take On Most Household Responsibilities

h ttps://www. forbes. com/sites/maggiegermano/2019/03/27/women-are-working-more-than-ever-but-they-still-take-on-most-household-responsibilities/? sh=11d7cf0e52e9

Married Women Do More Housework Than Single Moms, Study Finds

h ttps://www. tlc. com/parenting/married-women-do-more-housework-than-single-moms--study-finds#:~:text=A%20recent%20study%20by%20the, who%20live%20without%20a%20partner.

[captain_voidwalker]

That's be ause Forbes dosent consider mowing the lawn or doing household repairs and renovations as "housework" men do just as much and often the more dangerous and physically demanding housework. You can quote bullshit feminist studies at me all day. I'll rely on my first hand observations of my friends who are married

[nastyb]

@captain_voidwalker

most men dont even know how to do household repairs. most men dont even work in trades.

[captain_voidwalker]

That's strange because I work in trades. I can tell you 99.9% of all the tradesman I see are men.

[chicosuave]

omg omg im laughing so hard at this. studies has shown that marriage doesn't benefit men at all.

[chicosuave]

huummm women are just delusional. they are never happy of what they have.

[pethouse]

For all of you in this comment please look at mine I believe I have cracked the code just a little

[DarkLegacy]

This girl is funny i give her that, but then again she is completely deluded. She really believes this nonsense she spouts. Women benefit more from marriage, the financial side, which they get especially after divorce. Otherwise why do i see the most attractive young women with an old man, then when you see his car you understand everything. Plus also the woman orders the bloke around to get what she wants by threatening to leave him and denying him sex.

[Shamalien]

Mop the floor? Who does that every day

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@nastyb you are correct. Statistically speaking we do benefit more from marriage due to all the factors that you said. Statistically speaking, I like to think my wife gets as much out of our marriage as me.

Not only that but divorce is not the drama most make it out to be, statistically speaking of course.
In child custody battles 51% of the times both parents agree the child should be with the mother, meaning it there isn't even a dispute most of the times. When both sides do fight for the child men and women have similar win rates and is very rare that one side gets full custody. Regarding any payment only 30% of man actually pay everything they are supposed to.
So the best thing we must do is actually fight for the kids. The narrative that it's hopeless to do so is what is keeping them away from their kids. Because they don't fight because supposedly is hopeless.

Still regarding divorce. 50% of all marriages end in divorce. 70% of those 50% start by the woman. Meaning, after getting married, the odds of divorcing AND the divorce be started by the wife are 0,7x50%=35%. Not a lot.
Also if the women has higher education the odds of getting divorced are 30%. 90% of those 30% are started by women. Same as before, marrying a highly educated women AND she filling for divorce is 0.9x30%=27%. Even less.

[nastyb]

@captain_voidwalker

[That's strange because I work in trades. I can tell you 99.9% of all the tradesman I see are men.]

it doesn't mean 99.99 percent of all men are in trades. Most men don't even know how to fix a broken car or toilet.

[nastyb]

@chicosuave

[omg omg im laughing so hard at this. studies has shown that marriage doesn't benefit men at all.]

married men make more money compared to single men. married men also live longer lives than single men. but its not necessarily the same for married women

[captain_voidwalker]

Married men might live longer but divorce is the #1 cause of suicide in me. Go ahead flip that coin.
Also married men might make more but thats because they have to support a family. As an unmarried man I can choose to work hard and earn more or relax a bit and enjoy my life a little bit. Married men are the basically wage slaves.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@captain_voidwalker today in most couples, both work. Does that makes them both wage slaves?

[captain_voidwalker]

Nope because only one gets the cash and prizes for pulling the plug.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@captain_voidwalker
You are assuming she makes more by divorcing than by staying in a relationship.
And assuming he will have to pay her anything.

More than that you are avoiding the point. Both work. Are both wage slaves? Is anyone that works a wage slave? Or just people in relationships are wage slaves?

[captain_voidwalker]

Dosen't matter. If the woman makes more the man is Still the one who pays. Only in cases where women have substantially more money do they pay
And no only men are wage slaves because only men are obligated to support the family. If they don't they van literally be arrested for abuse. And the law might be written in a gender neutral way but it is not in any way enforced equilateraly

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@captain_voidwalker where do you get your sources for this? And please don't day red pill forums.
Who is obligating anyone to support the family financially? Stay at home fathers are a growing demographic.
You know what the statistics actually say? That only 30% of men actually pay with the are told to by the court. They can deny pay, the wife has to complain, he can appeal, they have to go to court again. If and only if she wins he has to pay. Next time he does the same thing. Makes the process as prolonged as possible and ends up not paying nearly anything. This is what my father also did.
Do you really thinking anyone is arrested during this? Of course not.

[captain_voidwalker]

Go sit in on some family court sessions. You'll get some first hand experience like I did

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@captain_voidwalker stats don't care about anedotal evidence.

[BoopBoopBeep]

You know what trumps a prenuptial agreement? Having all your assets in a trust prior to meeting her. Can't take half of zero.

[Steelcore5280]

The women commenting on this post have very clearly (and not surprisingly) missed the entire point of your post. This will go over every woman's head that reads this one, man. They just don't care.

[Adaeva]

Since the population is increasing that is not a problem

[chicosuave]

very well said. actually 76 percent of women initiate most divorce rates and thats only in the western world. I think russia ranks number one.

[TooHot2Care]

Oh I can tell that this will be a perfectly balanced discussion where all parties are treated with respect and heard.

[Snakeyes7]

What did the people who support this system today think would happen when the wives get rewarded for leaving their partners for no reason.