A Furious Wake-Up Call: A Message for Women

[DexWest]

Hey, women, I’ve been reflecting on this video I watched where a woman was laughing off the male loneliness epidemic as something “made up,” blaming men for being reckless with our lives. It started as just another eye-roll moment for me, but the more I think about it, the angrier it makes me. Because this isn’t isolated, it’s part of a bigger pattern where women’s voices, time and again, downplay and outright dismiss the mental health crises men face every day. Society just lets it slide, like our struggles are fair game for ridicule while everyone else gets empathy.

Take the suicide rates, for example. Men are roughly half the population, but we account for nearly 80% of all suicides. In 2023 alone, the rate for men was 22.8 per 100,000, nearly four times higher than for women at 5.9. We’re literally dying in droves from despair, isolation, and unspoken pain, with 39,045 men taking their own lives that year compared to 10,270 women. And according to the WHO, suicide remains a leading cause of death globally, disproportionately affecting men because we internalize our pain until it kills us. The trend over time is even more damning: back in the late 1990s, the male suicide rate hit a low of around 18 per 100,000 in 1999, but it has steadily increased since then, climbing to 23.0 in 2022, a rise of nearly 28% amid broader societal shifts. And there could be a correlation with the incessant anti-male rhetoric that’s ramped up over the same period, as messages portraying men as toxic, unnecessary, or inherently flawed contribute to a crisis of masculinity, heightening feelings of worthlessness and pushing more men toward suicide. Yet when we try to talk about it, we’re met with dismissal or blame. And God forbid a woman steps up to advocate for us; she’s immediately branded a “pick me” girl, accused of betraying other women just to chase male approval. It’s a nasty label that shuts down any real conversation, revealing this deepseated disdain so many women seem to have for men as a whole.

Now let’s hit the loneliness stats hard, because this epidemic is real and devastating. A Gallup survey from 2023-2024 found that 25% of U.S. men aged 15 to 34 felt lonely a lot of the previous day, making us among the loneliest in the West. Pew Research shows that 16% of men feel lonely or isolated all or most of the time, and this isn’t just a feeling, it’s tied to higher risks of depression and suicide. The U.S. Surgeon General declared loneliness an epidemic in 2023, noting that half of adults experience it, with young adults hit hardest, and men suffering in silence because societal norms tell us to tough it out. Meanwhile, depression affects nearly 6 million men in the U.S. every year, but we’re far less likely to seek help: only 40% of men with mental illness received care in 2021, compared to 52% of women. The CDC reports depression prevalence at 13.3% for men versus 24% for women, but our lower diagnosis rates don’t mean less suffering, they mean we’re bottling it up until it explodes. And the WHO echoes this, with anxiety and depressive disorders being common, yet men dying by suicide at rates four times higher than women because we don’t get the support we need.

It boils my blood, the way you’ve popularized things like that “man vs. bear” trend, where women say they’d rather face a wild bear in the woods than a random man, painting us all as inherent threats. Sure, safety concerns are real, but it turns into this blanket vilification that ignores the fact that most men aren’t monsters, and studies show it leads to men feeling further alienated and dismissed in discussions about gender-based violence. Then you chant “I don’t need a man” like it’s empowerment, making us feel obsolete and unwanted. And in the next breath, it’s “Where are all the good men?” implying the rest of us are trash just for existing. You’ve hammered this message home: men are less than, unneeded, and somehow bad at our core. Pew Research highlights how society pressures women more on appearance and parenting, but it also shows growing perceptions that men face unique societal expectations to be providers and stoic, which fuels our isolation. It’s eroded our sense of worth, fueling the very loneliness you mock.

And don’t even start with “not all women”, I know not every one of you is out there directly trashing us. But your inaction? That’s complicity. You stay quiet when your friends do it, you like the posts, you scroll on by, all to avoid standing out. Does fitting in with that naive sense of belonging really matter more than men’s lives? It’s exhausting, and honestly, HOW DARE YOU KEEP THIS UP! YOUR SCORN AND SILENCE ARE KILLING US, AND I’M DONE PRETENDING IT’S OKAY!

This reminds me so much of that song “Hero” by Superchick: “No one sits with him, he doesn’t fit in / But we feel like we do when we make fun of him / Cause you want to belong, do you go along? / Cause his pain is the price paid for you to belong.” You’re doing the exact same thing, ridiculing our pain to feel part of the group, and the cost is our isolation, our breakdowns, our deaths. STOP THE HYPOCRISY! If equality means anything to you, show some damn empathy for men instead of this endless dismissal. Your words and your quiet enabling are destroying us, and I’m yelling through these words because I’ve had enough!

But listen, everyone has a father, some have brothers, husbands, sons, or other men in their lives who matter deeply. It doesn’t take much to ask how someone is doing. Instead of just hearing the words, look them in the eyes and really listen to the tone of their response. If it seems off, push harder. Ask again, “How are YOU doing? How are you feeling?” Do better. Men have been ingrained to put up a strong front, hiding our pain behind it. And God forbid, if he trusts you enough to open up and tells you he isn’t okay, he’s struggling, he’s actually suicidal, do what I’ve done: stand firm and flat out tell them they have two options. They’re going to the hospital with you voluntarily, or you’re calling the police to have them taken there by force. My friend hated me for it in the short run, but later thanked me for saving his life. I’ve gone to more funerals from suicide than I care to count, and I don’t want you to experience that.

[Levin]

I kind of get the sense that men are surplus to requirements, not valued according to modern feminist philosophy and society. It sounds preposterous, but sometimes I think it would be easier to be part of a 'victim group', such as being gay, as empathy would be inherent. I was at a gig yesterday and of course this was all part of the subtle and not so subtle messaging from the university educated lot of a certain age.

This is one of those topics I feel a bit ambivalent about. Men are between a rock and a hard place because opening up often doesn't make a man feel empowered or respected, which is what we innately crave. Plus I don't really trust 90% of women to keep a man's confidence, which is another big issue. Honestly, my own view is what men need is something more simple. Not necessarily mental health support, or the institutions thereof (although of course, they should take that support if they need it); but just something utterly more simple and human. Just the idea of being listened and that someone actually gives a shit. And an understanding that just because you feel shitty in the moment, that doesn't tar you for eternity. People sometimes just need a rant, and once they've been heard they're fine. Example, I've had a shitty few months, which culminated in me throwing a tub of houmous at the wall... and now I'm fine. It's out of my system. All good. Just someone who listens and keeps our confidence and gives a shit, that's what we need. Sadly, those people, who can actually steward your emotions, are quite rare.

Also, as a qualified therapist, I'm not quite sure your response to your friend was necessarily correct (although maybe it was, I don't know the situation). Suicidal ideation is sadly fairly common and not necessarily indicative that someone will do anything. The key aspect is intent. Breaching people's confidence needs to be balanced with the genuine threat of harm they or others are under; because breaching people's confidence can have quite serious negative consequences. Plus there's the concept of individual autonomy. All most be balanced and weighed up in any decisions. Having dealt with suicidal clients, I have found them to respond quite well to simply asking them, well, why, what is the matter. Expression of it is incredibly healing. Goes back to my original point.

[thegreenyogi]

I think life is hard for everyone. It's not easy to be a woman like it's not easy to be a man. And we are all human, we all suffer and you're right men suffer the most because they can't really express all that they feel because there isn't a safe space for them to do without being ridiculed. It's sad that you have only encountered women that agree with you but don't speak up about it because there are some many other women out there that do or that allow the space for a man in their life to express how lonely or depressed they feel.

[mysteriousNicholas]

@thegreenyogi yet we keep going on 🐾 after all, a brand new day is a new day

[thegreenyogi]

Thank you for the MHO!

[katiesmuff]

How true!

[thegreenyogi]

@katiesmuff Thank you!

[Purpleronnie]

Perhaps an unpopular opinion on this thread specifically or maybe in general but I think it’s a leap to even insinuate that there is a logical link between men un-aliving themselves and the attention they get from women.


Full transparency, I never read a huge amount of your offering but i immediately knew I generally disagree, but before you get all excited it’s my opinion based on my life experience , clearly others have differing perspectives


Not that I’d ever blame it on anyone or anything else , I have suffered mental illness and known many who also have. I have also had suicidal thoughts and felt despair and complete hopelessness probably similar to those who have taken their lives. What I know now looking back is that my thought process , perception , judgement , decision making ability etc were for want of a more clinical expression “complete dog shit” your thoughts are your illness talking back to you that’s how I was helped to understand it and I’m afraid that’s how I consider anyone who believes that it’s anything other than the men themselves that need the wake up call or reality check….


It’s not for women to check in with us , it’s for us to open up and learn that it’s ok to need help and ask for it / demand it And should certain people want to believe that makes me or another less of a man then that’s they’re problem.




Should I not have done that ? , should I not have laid myself bare and begged for help …? I’d be dust in the wind right now.


Just my two cents

[DexWest]

Thanks for sharing your experience. It’s powerful that you sought help and turned things around. Respect for that. But I think we’re talking past each other a bit. My post isn’t about blaming women (or anyone) as the sole cause. It’s calling out how societal inaction, dismissal, and denial can amplify isolation for men, backed by data showing social support as a key protective factor against suicide (e. g., studies link low support to higher risks). Social media plays a big role here too, amplifying negativity like anti-male trends or ridicule, which correlates with rising suicide rates over the past decades as these messages spread widely and normalize dismissal. Silence and inaction directly contribute to this problem, enabling the cycle to continue unchecked. Sometimes, playing nice with flowery, polite wording fails to grab attention or spark the debates needed for real change, which is why I went strong in my original post.
You’re spot on that personal agency in opening up is crucial, but evidence from psych research (like meta-analyses on depression) shows external factors like stigma or ridicule feed into those distorted thoughts you mentioned, making it harder to seek help. It’s not either/or. It’s both individual action and collective empathy that saves lives.

[BadApple69]

Ok first off feminism is destroying men and women.
As for the suicide rate of men going up that also is because for decades they have been making boys more feminine. Boys are not allowed to be boys anymore. Maybe this sounds horrible but boys need to fight. I don’t mean bully other kids but fighting toughened kids up and showed there was a natural pecking order. For years all kids got there participation trophy, and told they were all equal in life. This pushed a big lie and made those who couldn’t do what others could do fail as young adults, instead of leaning their limitations young and working on those limitations.
When my son was young and going through middle school at a parent /teacher conference I learned they were giving him A and B grades on his report card while the teacher told me he was more of a B and C student. They changed his grade for his self-esteem?
I was pissed. I called a meeting with the principal and all his teachers and blasted them for lying to ME. That report card was how I knew he was doing. I was praising him and not pushing him harder thinking he was doing great!
This is just one example how the BS going on in our schools can and does affect our boys.
Men are supposed to be tough and durable. Handle any situation but now they are babied by their moms, the school systems… hell, At my work we hire these 20 something year old boys who don’t know which way to turn a screw driver, can’t change a tire but darn they are really good at video games.
If everyone would stop turning our boys into pussies, maybe the suicide rate would drop back down and maybe women would find men attractive again and feminism won’t be controlling young ladies like it is today.


It’s just my 2 cents.

[Chazmatazz269]

Dudes need ride or die dudes more than chicks.

https://youtu.be/bBSvlTYfUrs?si=TnQPb82O46KqPA4I

If you don’t have that one good friend who will listen, understand and respond as needed, go out and find him. Find him before you even think about finding her. And don’t think that a hug and coddling is always what you need. Sometimes you will need to stop wallowing and get to work. A good friend will tell you that. He will know when a hug and a pat on the back is what is best, and when a kick in the butt is better. We all need at least one. More is better cuz sometimes adults can’t drop everything to respond to a friend in need. But that one good friend is air, water, lifeblood itself. You can’t live without it forever, and the longer you deprive yourself of it, the sh*ttier life gets.
There are men’s groups of all kinds. Most of them have some form of online presence. So you can look around and find what you need before joining. But you must do the work. And never forget, you have to be a friend to have a friend. Be someone’s ride or die and let someone be yours. Know that they won’t always be the same person.

[Syntosi]

Putting aside all your hilariously misinterpreted understandings of "masculinity" or "man vs bear", etc...

This is quite frankly a YOU problem and not a HER problem. The fact that you can't get your life in order and do such healthy things as.. go outside.. talk to people.. approach girls and such, does not mean that women have to sweep in and rescue you from your own bad habits and personality flaws.

What you are screaming is pure entitlement. The expectation that someone else should come in and solve YOUR problems that YOU created for yourself and that YOU refuse to resolve.

Lets be absolutely clear about something. Anyone can get into a healthy relationship. ANYONE. And its not even necessarily that difficult either. That loneliness epidemic you pointed out? Do you know what the ramifications to that is? Supply and demand, more men are lonely means that you have less competition in dating and there are more women who is single. In other words, it has gotten much easier for men to secure good partners because more women are looking and your competition is mostly depressed guys who can't keep their shit together.

Take a shower. Get a haircut. Clean your home. Get some nice clothes. Do the absolute basics and you are already like in the top 1% of men in the dating pool. You live in this era of low standards and lack of competition and you are complaining? Quite frankly, I got to question if you have the maturity to actually start a relationship if you keep behaving like a spoiled brat.

[goaded]

I take it your first graph is deaths from suicide, otherwise there would be nothing but women left?

Yes, there's a much higher rate of men killing themselves than women.

I'm not sure there's been "incessant anti-male rhetoric". Violence against women has been a constant for millennia. Most incel terrorists don't have any friends, male or female. Tell me, would you have been friends with an incel terrorist, or would you have treated them with disdain, like every sensible woman?

The people who say women are “pick me” are the same kind of people who say men are "white knights", they should be ignored.

Do you expect women to sleep with men they don't want to, just to reduce the chances of them committing suicide?

Tell the men to seek help; give them help. Tell them to find friend groups; give them friend groups.

Don't blame women for not wanting to be with people you don't even want to be with.

ISTR some ex-incel recently said they realised that women aren't some machine you put "nice coins" into and get sex, they have to choose you (or words to that effect).

You can live a good life without sex. Live a good life, and you're more likely to get sex.

[Genie23]

I think it doesn't take much to reach out and see how is someone (whether it's a guy or girl) doing. Who knows maybe they are struggling, and just needed someone to show care or be there for them to stop themselves from taking a drastic step. Whenever they share they're struggling, I make time for them as much as possible and even advice them if it gets too difficult to cope, you could also seek help. Nothing wrong with that. I'll be here for you regardless.

[Shiprex]

It's often misunderstood that men cope better than women about life's troubles. There's less trouble with stress, anxiety and depression among men. Less reliance on medication for these issues and lower demand for therapy.

These last two aspects of therapy and medication are indicators of what works for women more than men. Sure there are skills to learn that can make improvement fir the individual. BUT what gets me is there's no consideration for BEST PRACTICE. That is look at men's strategies of dealing with everyday stressor and apply them, they work, men's stress anxiety and depression is lower unless you subscribe to the "women have it harder" subjective opinion.

[purplepoppy]

The blame lies entirely in the hands of the far right. When you flood social media with misogyny and want to drag us all back to the 1920s are you really surprised we're catious about who we date or hang out with.

[Sal_Monella]

Look for my My Take in Divorce and Breakup
This is a response to The My Take, A Furious Wake-Up Call, by @DexWest

[RandomGirl42]

I dunno, I guess I'm guilty of being complicit but I'm not sure what else I can really do? I just try to be nice to anyone where I can, doesn't matter who. 🤷‍♀️

Oh, shut up, Random, u lezzie witch, no one aked ur opinion

[Anonymous]

Just going to leave this here...

[Anonymous]

No one cares about men and boys. They may care about the ones they are close to, but not men as a demographic. That's sad because that demographic are real people, real humans.

It's comical how suddenly leftist politicians are acknowledging the issue you described so well and pretending they care about men and boys. The reality is they only care about the fact that men voted republican last year in record number.

Nothing will change.

[RxR0954]

Alright… why not make a post ranting crying to other men on why most men don’t support each other emotionally, rather than crying about how women don’t want to baby your feelings? We have done enough labor, please go to therapy.

[Flower7]

If these guys are struggling, why not get a therapist? No one is stopping them from getting treatment.

[genericname85]

lol good luck with anything that's "not about women". nobody cares xD

[Genie23]

That's not true. 🙁 I care a lot about men I know in my life and often check up on them.

[genericname85]

@Genie23 not gonna try to invalidate your effort here. good on you and keep it up with the men around you that you can positively effect. but quite clearly not enough people care cause if that was the case, then the facts he stated wouldn't be facts.

[Genie23]

Thank you, and I will. Yeah, I think you're right. I really wish more people would show concern for men’s mental health. Everyone goes through hard times, and some people carry a lot more than they ever show. A little support can go a long way.. sometimes even a simple check-in or phone call can be enough to remind someone not to give up.

[genericname85]

@Genie23 yeah true. the thing is as a man observing pop culture, all you see is people telling men to seek help and support or get fucked. where's acceptance and tolerance? but nobody does offer support. i mean you can go to a therapist if you can afford it. if you're broke and crashing out, you're homeless, living in your car if you're lucky or out on the streets. that's the end of the line for men. at that point you can be lucky if you meet a good samaritan that helps you out. most of men don't.

i think what gets them there is that most men are alienated by the feminist sphere. painted as the evil the world suffers from. and where does that get them? into depression, self hatred, suicide or into the arms of toxic manosphere assholes like andrew tate. what good support is there for men? not a lot of options. not a lot of sympathy for their problems. it's basically get your act together being the only option and if you don't manage to do that... well what are the options at that point really?

you know how you can help men? give them a purpose. give them ways in which they can use their strength to be seen as a hero for society and you'll be surprised what happens. what positive male image should they strive towards? what's the dream here that they can follow? that's what i see lacking massively. you can't just tear an entire gender down to pieces and then leave them to figure it out. you need to help construct the alternatives and i don't see that happening in the female world of things.

and when i say "you" i don't mean you specifically. i mean the general "you".

[Genie23]

I hear you and you made some good points especially when you said you can help men by giving them a purpose. Other than that, I've also noticed one more issue. Many men were conditioned not to show vulnerability otherwise people would laugh at you or not take you seriously. They feel society expect them to put up a brave face.

One guy told me that he got the courage to express it to some of his close friends (including guys) and they just told him to man up in one even made a joke about it. They didn't take him seriously. The guy was struggling pretty bad inside. So he started drinking a lot and other times... he would isolate himself. I notice few other guy's showing similar pattern.. To cope with depression and feeling unheard. The pain just stays inside.

I tried to make them feel comfortable by saying things like "Is everything alright? Want to talk about it. If you don't and would rather want to distract yourself, we can distract ourselves together. But just know you're in safe space" They shared their struggles with me at some point and started reaching out to me whenever they felt like they needed someone to talk to.

[genericname85]

@Genie23 yes absolutely true. we are conditioned not to show vulnerability. cause what happens if we do that? we get ditched. women get the ick. we're not the "stoic rock" they're looking for. they don't see us as the stable provider anymore and therefore they're leaving us while telling us that a stable provider isn't what they want. see how that completely makes no sense at all? like if there was actual support we could turn to that worked effectively for us, we wouldn't have to "just take it". that's a coping mechanism cause realisticly there still is no alternative or support structure for most of them.

and by the way i'm not saying that women are to blame. it is because of the lack of support for men that they have a huge capacity for emotional compression that women typically aren't able to handle cause they have more healthy outlets for emtional baggage. they are used to venting a little bit here and there in their social networks. can men do that? no they can't. so they compress. and when they eventually break down cause there is a limit to the compression, then there's nobody who can handle them. cause that's a serious catastrophy then. then women get the ick. other men are like "fuck man, supporting him will drag me down as well so better let them go under to stay afloat myself". like you gotta understand, there's not many women like you that apparently can deal with that sort of emotional dump. it's an impossible feat for a lot of them and even for some men, so again: great for you, you're doing good but we can't expect that high standard for everyone.

[genericname85]

like if men didn't get punished for venting and for going a more healthy route, then they'd do it. society doesn't have the means to provide them. and telling them "get help" doesn't actually help. what you does apparently does help but who does that? not many people.

[Genie23]

This is so sad. Yeah, I've heard some of my close friends as well as my partner say something similar. It's so unfair. I think in many cases, like situational depression (I fell into depression at a very young age because of things I saw in life, like seeing my mum on the verge of death when I was in early teens and I didn't know how to express it, so I fell deeper in depression for a while. So, I know how it feels). You can overcome depression caused by circumstances- with the help of people who matter to you in life who would be there for you in your tough times... listen to you vent or.. motivating you on days you find it difficult to get out of bed because you're too depression. But in cases like clinical depression or some other mental disorder, seeking counselling is also needed as well as emotional support from your loved ones because many people make an effort to heal for their loved ones. I wish things changed in the future, so there won't be as many suicide cases anymore.

[genericname85]

@Genie23 what you're describing as your experience with depression sounds like a healthy depression that occurs as a result of really bad things happening in your life. Like I don't wanna seem like I can relate cause I don't think I was ever truly "depressed". But what I'm understanding from learning about it from others is that a pathological depression is when you feel as bad as if your mom got a cancer diagnosis when in fact nothing objectively bad actually happened. It's when your inner emotional world doesn't align with the outside world properly anymore. And frankly I don't even know if a layman like me could "really" even help a person who suffers from that. Maybe. Maybe not.

In my society, there's compulsory health care. You can't have no health care legally. Either you're paying out of your pocket or the Wellfare system will if you can't.

And the paradox thing is: we're reducing stigma culturally right now in hopes that helps people get help to prevent suicides but the suicide rates are still going up. The reason for that is a very complex mix of variables. One that really shocked me is that: reducing stigma does help to inform people and rise awareness but it can in some contexts even increase suicide rates. Because apparently the stigma helps with vigilance, driving support networks to be more "aggressive" which is a good thing cause the internal stigma of the suicidal people doesn't go away. That means while everyone else may feel the stigma is going down so people are getting help, the people who are suicidal don't internally get rid of the stigma so they don't get help and their support network isn't as vigilant and doesn't push them as much to get the p cause they feel like the barrier to get help is low enough.

[Genie23]

Yeah, if it was clinical depression, I'd have definitely needed therapy and medications. Since it was situational, it took me years but I managed to overcome it. I'm glad to hear that health care is compulsory where you live, but I was quite shocked when you said even though people have been working on reducing stigma by raising awareness, it still led to an increase in suicide rates. That's very scary. But yes, I think you are onto something here especially when you said "those who are suicidal don't internally get rid of the stigma, so they don't get help" I don't understand what can be done about it.

[genericname85]

@Genie23 so I'm not an expert but I do have some professional qualifications in that regard. So what you do is first you gotta have some level of contact to people. Then you gotta be aware about changes in behavior. And then when their behavior changes. You have to talk to them. If you get the feeling that they're down and you fear that they may actually be suicidal, it never hurts to address it directly. You directly ask them: are you thinking about suicide?" Or "do you feel like ending your life?". So if the answer is yes or maybe, you are never wrong if you're calling an ambulance right then or drive them to a clinic. They may not like it but better safe than sorry. If you don't feel comfortable with that, what you do is you don't condemn it. You ask if they are making plans. Ask for their plans. If from their description it's clear they want to do it or they're considering it, they have a plan and the means to actually realistically follow through and do it. Then you have to call an ambulance cause that's a medical emergency for sure.

[Genie23]

I once saw a relative almost kill himself many years ago. He's safe and doing well now, but to witness that left a scar. So, I'll keep this in mind. Thank you.

[genericname85]

@Genie23 you're welcome. Most important for yourself: never allow yourself to fell guilt. It's not your fault even if they told you that

[Genie23]

I think I needed to hear that. I will remind myself this whenever things get tough.

[genericname85]

@Genie23 you're very welcome again :D great to hear that you're equipping yourself to support the people around you. keep in mind: in order to be a life guard, you need to be able to swim yourself to stay afloat. and more important than helping someone is making sure you stay afloat. than the only worse thing to losing someone is losing yourself in the process.

[Genie23]

So true. I used to feel miserable whenever I saw someone in pain. I'd feel guilty even though I hadn't done anything wrong to them. It took me a long time to realise that it was empathy in me that made me feel that way. So, I started telling myself "Snap out of it. You can't help them if you're having negative thoughts as well" and so, I did. I often remind myself that "I'm doing the best I can" whenever I'd wonder whether I'm doing enough. Now I'm better at handling people without letting it affect me. 😅

[genericname85]

@Genie23 yeah it's a good skill to detach your emotions sometimes. it can make you look like a psychopath but sometimes that's what you need to survive. i've been there. just gotta watch not to deatch them for too long tho xD cause they'll get out of reach eventually. and that's a whole new can of worms.

[Genie23]

Me right now. 😂 Seriously, why must there bs one problem after another? 😭 I don't think I am capable of detaching myself from emotions completely. But I understand your profession requires you to. It's like walking on a rope, you've got to be very careful. Too much of anything and you'll fall.

[genericname85]

@Genie23 ah it's ok. as long as you have the rock solid conviction never to just end your life, you're good :D or let's say then you have the chance of becoming good again xD

[Genie23]

Phew 😆

[Anonymous]

the simps and white knights will make sure this message gets poisoned

[Rosemaiden]

Let women live how she likes to for GOD'S SAKE!!!

[bunniesrcute]

You can't blame women for men being incompetent in relationships. You have dug ur own grave.

[Smegskull]

Men didn't change all the rules though.
It isn't blaming women for men being incompetent at relationships. It's blaming women for changing the rules of relationships to disadvantage men.

[Syntosi]

@Smegskull What rules are being changed? Womens expectations for men today are very basic. Things like "take a shower" or "clean your home". They are completely understandable and not at all a burden to you if you are not living a life that is spiraling out of control, in which case you got bigger problems to deal with.

[Anonymous]

Vote for tax segregation.
Once women lose unconditional access to mens productivity they'll quickly learn to be grateful for the roof over their heads again.