lol @ 30-40 year old men arguing for 14+ or lower hoping they'd get to fuck 14 yo kids. There is such thing as "close in age exemption" you retards, just because 14 yo kids have sex with 16 yo kids doesn't mean you can have sex with 14 yo kids. Age of consent being 18 is fine, just give close in age exemption to slightly younger kids.
It is 18 where I live but that didn't stop me from messing around with girls who were over 18 when I was 16 and 17. I do think 18 is fine, but there should be close in age exceptions. In California if you turn 18 today and your SO turns 18 tomorrow it is illegal sex with a minor for you to mess around with that person. If you are both 17 years, 364 days old you can both be prosecuted for illegal sex with a minor. I can understand wanting to protect 15 or 16 year olds from people over 20, but 18 and 17? Seems off to me.
18 or higher. I'd be ok with lower ones if there was some kind of age gap restriction. I don't want any 14 or 16yr olds being taken advantage of by older people who just use their stupidity against them.
Sorry about that, Def not my best post. What I meant to say was... the dif between16 and 18 is nominal. What makes the 18 more " capable" are the encounters and experience she had in the 2 years between. The guy is inconsequential regardless of age. She gets plowed by 3 18 year olds as she jumps boyfriend to boyfriend that mess with her head or the one 25 yo that keeps her in place with his more advance game or whatever the end result seems the same and in some ways her exposure is less with the older dude
@IIGrifterSixII age of consent is not about that. I don't think it's wrong if 16 yr old has sex with an 18yr old if age of consent is 18. Still the guy could go to prison for this, although they are both teenagers. I think the age of consent needs to be kept higher to prevent old creeps from taking advantage of naive stupid teenagers. Should an experienced 25yr old be having sex with 14yr old regardless of how much experience is there? 14yr old is just a child, so anyone who voted that 14 is ok are either creeps or dont understand how many old people would go wild if this was allowed. 25 is bad enough, how about 35, 45 or older? Going after kids who just hit puberty just because it's legal? Nope. They need to be protected. They can have as many partners as they want who are within the same age group. But I do think there should be some separate law that allows a small age gap without punishment, since 45yr old having sex with a 17yr old vs 18yr old having sex with an 17yr old is not equal crime. One is a pedo, the other one is just a teen hooking up with another teen. I think the punishment should be considered on how big the age gap is.
So a 50 banging a 16 is pedo ( Actually its phebo but whatevs) but if he's 52 and she's 18 consenting adults? 25 but not 26 or 35 meh. All im saying is deterimne when a kid can make choices, when can they be held accountable as an adult ( ie murder trials) when can they be trusted to safeguard the lives of others ( ie driving) and if theyre are responsible enough in those situations than too young for sex if theyre that same age doesn't hold water. Differentiating who they bang makes little sense since guys are at their WORST at 18-25 . You dont want your daughter banging an older dude be a better parent but the law in my opinion should be congruent and fair and since its unlikely theyre going to raise the driving limits and since they are still gonna lock up 14 yo for life because they were mentally competent enough for trail. I think 14 - 16 without age stipulations makes more sense and frees up the clutter. Stop asking the govt to parent
@IIGrifterSixII 50yr old with an 18yr old is still a pedo. She could be his granddaughter. You can parent the child as well as you possibly can, but older people have more experience, are smarter and sneakier, they know how to manipulate and take advantage of impressionable mind who is still growing up and knowing what they want. One of the reasons older people go for children that young is because they think they can mold them into their own version of what they want for themselves. I think up to early 20s there should be a law that prevents from people twice their age using them for their young years and brainwashing them. Anything over 25 is an adult WITH some life experience and no longer can be manipulated by any old creep.
So firstly I agree with your underlying premise older people a re more cunning and capable. But unless theyre monster which most people aren't theyre aren't there like some machiavellian villain, theyre there because they like them. I can agree its socially awkward but tosay a 18 and 50 yo makes the 50yo a pedo is disingenous as its coomonly accepted that you are an adult for better at worse at 18 . Its akin to calling anything a girl doesn't like or regret the day after the same thing as rape. Rape has a very defined definintion as does pedo or in this case Phebophilia. I still contend a 18-24 yo will do MORE harm than a fully realized adult. I agree after 25 people are more even keel and make better choices. That its uncomfortable , sure I agree. Would I want my daughter dating a 40 yo dude at 15 hell no, but I would allow her to date an 18 yo either. Tha she's gonna do what she wants regardless, weve all been kids and know what lengths they can go to to do what they want. A 16 yo can't be sexy and manipulative and seductive? GTFOH. To me its not so much an issue of allowing old people a buffet of young trim ( since most old people either dont find them attractive enough to pursue relationships due to lack of common interests OR aren't considered attractive by the younger generation) as it is to set a common sense age limits accross the board when kids can be held accountable and trusted to make their own choices. Because theyre are allowed greater responsibilities at the age of 15 and 16 than their own bodies and sexuality , namely not killing me and my family while driving , somewhere in that ballpark seems reasonable. But we can agree to disagree
@IIGrifterSixII I get what you mean, we can agree and disagree to this. I guess me calling a 50yr old going after a 18yr a pedo is a stretch, since technically pedos like someone who looks like a child. But to a 50yr old anyone that young IS a child mentally. I don't care that they might look sexy and mature physically, but I am 27 and even to me 18yr olds are children, I meet lots of them, so the idea of people more than twice their age pursuing them for a relationship is hella creepy. Yes 16 yr olds can be manipulative, but they do it in such a childish manner only a complete fool who is older than them won't be able to see through it. Yes, kids will do what they want, but the adult one is the one who should know better and stay away until the kid grows up and matures. That is why age of consent is necessary, so that even though kids might disobey, the adults should at least be afraid of the consequences and hesitant to be creeps.
@IIGrifterSixII We will wait for the studies you MUST have read, because what you ar spouting flies in the face of established social science and neurological developmental understanding. The science says you are objectively wrong.
Given that the laws for or against do little to prevent poor decisions and punish inequitably; there should be either no laws or mandatory marriage before sex laws.
Too many 18 year olds getting convicted with their 16 yr old girlfriend, even 15 yr olds with their 15 yr old girlfriend for statutory rape... or sex offender status for the guy taking a leak behind the bar...
Marriage laws have been in place for eons to address mutual grievances such as monetary loss or child rearing arrangements when divorce happens.
Sex is a natural act and everyone starts getting interested in it around 12 years old once they go through puberty and receive nature’s prompting through hormones. Over reaching power hungry bigots through religion and government have used this fact to control and enslave populations since early history in the name of morals or ethics or safety.
18, you are considered mature enough to serve and die for tour country therefore you should be considered mature enough to make decisions about consent. (this is directed toward the legal side, people typically aren't mature by this point so physically and psychologically they should wait.)
Its for the best it's 16. Because it's around that time where people are at the most horny. Imagen how many will go to prison if it was 18. How ever like in Norway it's some rules around it that not really written down but are still there. If you have sex at age 16 then your partner is close to the same age. Also even if it's 16 you might actually still go to prison if the other is over 20 close to 30. It says 16 but it's really 18. Also at school we learn about sex, birth control and condom's and so on. Also we learn about sexual transmitted desises. Pregnancy and lots of other stuff. It's also recommend to wait, we all learn this at school.
The age of consent should be 15, because that is the cutoff point for paraphilias.
As for teenage pregnancies, the data is pretty confident in that raising age of consent actually produces more teenage pregnancies. Countries with the lowest teenage pregnancy rates also tend to have the lowest ages of consent (Germany, Italy, Japan vs USA). So reality and science can't support you in that argument either.
Not sure. Perhaps because more liberal approach to sex makes it easier to access information about it? In my country, we received sex education in elementary school at the age of 14, I'm not sure at what ages it is taught / discussed elsewhere.
Everyone can have sex, so prohibition is probably not very effective in this case. Information on safe sex would probably be more beneficial.
In Norway the first sex education is when people are 13, then there's one when they're 16 and maybe one afterward that again. Still doesn't mean people should be allowed to have sex before 18, just because of they're allowed the information. A 16 years old is allowed the information about driving, but aren't allowed to drive cars before 18.
" Still doesn't mean people should be allowed to have sex before 18"
But that's not what age of consent is about. It's not about allowing minors to have sex, it is about allowing adults to have sex with minors.
If two minors have sex, you can't persecute them or stop them from doing it, because they are both victims in that case and cannot consent to each other's actions.
1. I don't think adults should be allowed having sex with someone under 18 years old, because of immaturity and the law is supposed to protect children.
2.. I don't think children should be punished since they're children, but it shouldn't be socially acceptable to allow them sex either. Unwanted pregnancies, abortions, STDs, traumas etc. are all bad consequences because of sex and children aren't capable to handle it. Most children aren't ready to become mothers and fathers. They doesn't have full time jobs or a finished education.
The law would do very little to reduce teen pregnancy. That's almost always a reflection of the parenting. And they aren't going to prosecute other teens for having sex together.
Age of Consent laws are largely to protect young teens from adults.
I think if someone has the right sex education, know the consequences, and can make decisions on their own they should be able to have sex. That doesn't mean 16 & that doesn't mean 18, just when those requirements are apply because damn this world is populated with very uneducated parents
Personally, I think it should be 14/15. Currently in the UK it is 16. I lost my virginity when I was twelve, 4 years before the legal age consent, the girl in question was also underage, but still slightly older than I was. There was nothing wrong with it and as a result all that's happened is that I'm more careful with contraception than most my age and I'm more experienced 🤷 of course the issues with lowering it include that some people will abuse this, but they do that anyway, that isn't a fault of the age of consent, that's a fault of criminology education and available help to those abused. Here where I live, most people have tried drugs, alcohol and sex before they're even half way through high school.
I think age of consent should be 15. I mean, people younger than that are having sex and it's strange to think that a 16yo can't be with an 18yo it just feels ironic.
People under 18 tends to be less developed and more childlike. It's not good for children to have sex because of it's consequences like becoming mothers and fathers too early, STDs, traumas etc. Being immature, not finished your education, not having a full time job etc. would lead to poverty and a bad life for their children. In addition, if you're too young to marry you're also too young to have sex since it's recommended to have sex till after marriage for very good reasons.
The minium age by law should be 18, although the recommendation should be after 20. Many women should wait till their early 20s and men to their mid or late 20s. Pregnant children would only increase the abortion rate and it's not healthy for children to be it.
18 was the legal age for voting and there's no scientific basis on an 18yo being sexually mature or whatever. Anyway, if you are looking for physical development one could have sex from age 15 and if you wanna consider mental development too then many don't fully grow mature till they are 25.
16 yr old with a 18yr old is fine. but age of consent means after you turn 16, guy of any age is allowed to have sex with you. how about 46 and 16? Is that ironic too?
I don't think age of concent is as important as age gap. You are 18 but you prob wouldn't want 50yr olds creeping around you. So I think there should be age gap limit even after 18 until early twenties.
@Porcelaine when should there be no age gap, precisely? Because no matter what you can't restrict an age gap for an adult. No matter how bad it sounds, it's legal to have sex or be in a relationship with another adult as long as they aren't related in any other way.
Honestly, sex before marriage is a bad idea but considering that not everyone is raised the same way as I've been, at least educating young boys and girls about such matters should be universal.
You can't prevent underaged people from having sex with adults either, but the laws do punish the ones who do so it makes them scared at least. Same should be for age gaps
Its not since people disagree what is the right age for that. And giving a fair age gap would give more of a piece of mind, it would also not punish 19yr old for having sex with a 17yr old if legal age is 18, since they are both teena
It should be based on the following rules 1 being the top most priority: 1. Certain types of mentally challenged person, can't give consent at any age. 2. A financially and socially independent person can give consent at any age (as long as it doesn't rule 1 isn't violated). So if a 16 year old lives by themselves and earns for themselves, they can give consent. 3. Age of consent should be 18 (as long as rule 1 and 2 aren't violated). So this applies to non-mentally challenged person, living with a guardian/parents.
18 any younger and it seems a problem. But I also think it is crazy to think just because someone is 18 that they are automatically equipped to make the decision
eight'teen', when you're 18 you're technically still a teenager and most people at 18 still acts like teenagers so I think the ones who decided 18 is an adult is probably a pedophile or some pervert lol
@Emmalouise03 The laws are probably just outdated. Back then, after graduating high school (which was optional but even more so college), you were already considered an adult! Ready to take on adult responsibilities!
@SueAnon84 we have something called confirmation in norway, its your day and you celebrate, it's the year you turn 15 and it used to mean that you're officially an adult, but now it's kinda pointless cause all we get out of it is a lot of money, since we're not actually adults yet so
18+ where I live it's 16, now I don't have a huge problem with it but I do think it's a little young. I don't think we should punish teens who are fucking but it'll help protect children from adults.
The point is if theyre old enough to make an adult choice they shouldn't need that protection, STD is an STD. Preggers is preggers. doesn't how old the prick was
@IIGrifterSixII Psychological development says teens that young are basically helpless prey if we don't have these laws in place. You gross, shortsighted sicko.
10-12 is the age when people naturally start having sex IF it is available and they have not been threatened. Bar and bat mitzvahs (at 13) do not announce readiness for sex, but readiness for family-making; most people have their first sexual experiences much earlier. Arresting people for having consensual sex because of age is driven by fantasy, the idea that sex creates a kind of metaphysical harm. But the harm is in our (local) fantasies, and not experienced by the enjoyers of the sex. Another reason is that people like seeing others punished, especially happy people. The idea that a 17 year-old high-school basketball player is a victim of child molestation because he got a blow-job from a 21 year old, rather than a 14 year old, is insane. But that's American law, and we like seeing pretty young blonds locked up for blowing blacks when we white guys can't get any.
18+ in general, but children should not be criminalised for having sex with children within their age group (+/- 3 years difference) providing consent has been established.
The purpose of age of consent laws is to protect children, not harm them. And dragging kids through the legal system for having consensual sex with kids in their age group is harming them.
ONE AGE : one age to be tried as an adult, be able to drive, decide to get an abortion , decide transition, decide to have sex.
If a kid can be put to death or incarcerated the rest of their life at 14 because they were mentally competent that the whole " oh theyre a child" when it comes to sex doesn't hold water.
18 is unrealistic were just criminalizing nature at that point. Are you the most mature at 14 15 or 16? No. But your are still a stupid kid that doesn't know a damn thing well into your 20s. Look at college culture. They want to say its rape culture. How about bad decision making culture? But we dont outlaw it because its not reasonable. Kids at 14 15 16 1and 17 are out having sex. Most girls date older guys, 18 and over and there's 0 difference whether a girl gets tagged by a 18 yo pecker or a 50 yo pecker. Not functionally except if an 18 yo gets her preggers she's screwed. If it werent ilegal and a 25 year old got her preggers there's someone to hld finicially responsible that can actually meet the responsibilities. I dont know how many HS girls I new where dating 20 -25 yo men. I dated a few underage girls when i was 19 and 20 because I was stupid and I liked them and I didn't realized how horrible females are and how risky it was. Thank goodness it all worked out. All Im saying is we should minimize the damage and incarcerating people needlessly is ineffective and counter productive. Give them sex ed, prepare them to make better choices and if you dont want your daughter out riding the carosel at 15 be a better parent. regardless she's just gonna do it at 18 so whatever
Age of consent is correlated to the basic education standards. In most Asian countries, they don’t have middle school. So that means a person can start Freshman college at 16. Therefor age of consent is 16.
Going back in time to the dark ages, it’s believable that the age of consent was 12-14 because the life expectancy of women back then were 30 years old, and 40 years old for men. People died early so they started a family early.
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lol @ 30-40 year old men arguing for 14+ or lower hoping they'd get to fuck 14 yo kids. There is such thing as "close in age exemption" you retards, just because 14 yo kids have sex with 16 yo kids doesn't mean you can have sex with 14 yo kids.
Age of consent being 18 is fine, just give close in age exemption to slightly younger kids.
Yes it should always be 18 it disturbs me how there is actually so many people arguing it should be less ><
It is 18 where I live but that didn't stop me from messing around with girls who were over 18 when I was 16 and 17. I do think 18 is fine, but there should be close in age exceptions. In California if you turn 18 today and your SO turns 18 tomorrow it is illegal sex with a minor for you to mess around with that person. If you are both 17 years, 364 days old you can both be prosecuted for illegal sex with a minor. I can understand wanting to protect 15 or 16 year olds from people over 20, but 18 and 17? Seems off to me.
18 or higher. I'd be ok with lower ones if there was some kind of age gap restriction. I don't want any 14 or 16yr olds being taken advantage of by older people who just use their stupidity against them.
Agreed, i dont think minors should be punished for have sex with someone the same age as them.
18 is JUST as stupid its only there sexual ( or roantic) expirience that helps better prepare them
@IIGrifterSixII what?
Sorry about that, Def not my best post. What I meant to say was... the dif between16 and 18 is nominal. What makes the 18 more " capable" are the encounters and experience she had in the 2 years between. The guy is inconsequential regardless of age. She gets plowed by 3 18 year olds as she jumps boyfriend to boyfriend that mess with her head or the one 25 yo that keeps her in place with his more advance game or whatever the end result seems the same and in some ways her exposure is less with the older dude
@IIGrifterSixII age of consent is not about that. I don't think it's wrong if 16 yr old has sex with an 18yr old if age of consent is 18. Still the guy could go to prison for this, although they are both teenagers. I think the age of consent needs to be kept higher to prevent old creeps from taking advantage of naive stupid teenagers. Should an experienced 25yr old be having sex with 14yr old regardless of how much experience is there? 14yr old is just a child, so anyone who voted that 14 is ok are either creeps or dont understand how many old people would go wild if this was allowed. 25 is bad enough, how about 35, 45 or older? Going after kids who just hit puberty just because it's legal? Nope. They need to be protected. They can have as many partners as they want who are within the same age group. But I do think there should be some separate law that allows a small age gap without punishment, since 45yr old having sex with a 17yr old vs 18yr old having sex with an 17yr old is not equal crime. One is a pedo, the other one is just a teen hooking up with another teen. I think the punishment should be considered on how big the age gap is.
So a 50 banging a 16 is pedo ( Actually its phebo but whatevs) but if he's 52 and she's 18 consenting adults? 25 but not 26 or 35 meh. All im saying is deterimne when a kid can make choices, when can they be held accountable as an adult ( ie murder trials) when can they be trusted to safeguard the lives of others ( ie driving) and if theyre are responsible enough in those situations than too young for sex if theyre that same age doesn't hold water. Differentiating who they bang makes little sense since guys are at their WORST at 18-25 . You dont want your daughter banging an older dude be a better parent but the law in my opinion should be congruent and fair and since its unlikely theyre going to raise the driving limits and since they are still gonna lock up 14 yo for life because they were mentally competent enough for trail. I think 14 - 16 without age stipulations makes more sense and frees up the clutter. Stop asking the govt to parent
@IIGrifterSixII 50yr old with an 18yr old is still a pedo. She could be his granddaughter. You can parent the child as well as you possibly can, but older people have more experience, are smarter and sneakier, they know how to manipulate and take advantage of impressionable mind who is still growing up and knowing what they want. One of the reasons older people go for children that young is because they think they can mold them into their own version of what they want for themselves. I think up to early 20s there should be a law that prevents from people twice their age using them for their young years and brainwashing them. Anything over 25 is an adult WITH some life experience and no longer can be manipulated by any old creep.
So firstly I agree with your underlying premise older people a re more cunning and capable. But unless theyre monster which most people aren't theyre aren't there like some machiavellian villain, theyre there because they like them. I can agree its socially awkward but tosay a 18 and 50 yo makes the 50yo a pedo is disingenous as its coomonly accepted that you are an adult for better at worse at 18 . Its akin to calling anything a girl doesn't like or regret the day after the same thing as rape. Rape has a very defined definintion as does pedo or in this case Phebophilia. I still contend a 18-24 yo will do MORE harm than a fully realized adult. I agree after 25 people are more even keel and make better choices. That its uncomfortable , sure I agree. Would I want my daughter dating a 40 yo dude at 15 hell no, but I would allow her to date an 18 yo either. Tha she's gonna do what she wants regardless, weve all been kids and know what lengths they can go to to do what they want. A 16 yo can't be sexy and manipulative and seductive? GTFOH. To me its not so much an issue of allowing old people a buffet of young trim ( since most old people either dont find them attractive enough to pursue relationships due to lack of common interests OR aren't considered attractive by the younger generation) as it is to set a common sense age limits accross the board when kids can be held accountable and trusted to make their own choices. Because theyre are allowed greater responsibilities at the age of 15 and 16 than their own bodies and sexuality , namely not killing me and my family while driving , somewhere in that ballpark seems reasonable. But we can agree to disagree
sorry I should have taken more time to make that a cleaner post and easier to read. Mia culpa. I hope the point gets across
@IIGrifterSixII I get what you mean, we can agree and disagree to this. I guess me calling a 50yr old going after a 18yr a pedo is a stretch, since technically pedos like someone who looks like a child. But to a 50yr old anyone that young IS a child mentally. I don't care that they might look sexy and mature physically, but I am 27 and even to me 18yr olds are children, I meet lots of them, so the idea of people more than twice their age pursuing them for a relationship is hella creepy. Yes 16 yr olds can be manipulative, but they do it in such a childish manner only a complete fool who is older than them won't be able to see through it. Yes, kids will do what they want, but the adult one is the one who should know better and stay away until the kid grows up and matures. That is why age of consent is necessary, so that even though kids might disobey, the adults should at least be afraid of the consequences and hesitant to be creeps.
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@IIGrifterSixII We will wait for the studies you MUST have read, because what you ar spouting flies in the face of established social science and neurological developmental understanding. The science says you are objectively wrong.
Given that the laws for or against do little to prevent poor decisions and punish inequitably; there should be either no laws or mandatory marriage before sex laws.
Too many 18 year olds getting convicted with their 16 yr old girlfriend, even 15 yr olds with their 15 yr old girlfriend for statutory rape... or sex offender status for the guy taking a leak behind the bar...
Marriage laws have been in place for eons to address mutual grievances such as monetary loss or child rearing arrangements when divorce happens.
Sex is a natural act and everyone starts getting interested in it around 12 years old once they go through puberty and receive nature’s prompting through hormones. Over reaching power hungry bigots through religion and government have used this fact to control and enslave populations since early history in the name of morals or ethics or safety.
18, you are considered mature enough to serve and die for tour country therefore you should be considered mature enough to make decisions about consent. (this is directed toward the legal side, people typically aren't mature by this point so physically and psychologically they should wait.)
Its for the best it's 16. Because it's around that time where people are at the most horny. Imagen how many will go to prison if it was 18. How ever like in Norway it's some rules around it that not really written down but are still there. If you have sex at age 16 then your partner is close to the same age. Also even if it's 16 you might actually still go to prison if the other is over 20 close to 30. It says 16 but it's really 18. Also at school we learn about sex, birth control and condom's and so on. Also we learn about sexual transmitted desises. Pregnancy and lots of other stuff. It's also recommend to wait, we all learn this at school.
The age of consent should be 15, because that is the cutoff point for paraphilias.
As for teenage pregnancies, the data is pretty confident in that raising age of consent actually produces more teenage pregnancies.
Countries with the lowest teenage pregnancy rates also tend to have the lowest ages of consent (Germany, Italy, Japan vs USA).
So reality and science can't support you in that argument either.
Why do lower age of consent have lower pregnancies?
Not sure.
Perhaps because more liberal approach to sex makes it easier to access information about it?
In my country, we received sex education in elementary school at the age of 14, I'm not sure at what ages it is taught / discussed elsewhere.
Everyone can have sex, so prohibition is probably not very effective in this case.
Information on safe sex would probably be more beneficial.
In Norway the first sex education is when people are 13, then there's one when they're 16 and maybe one afterward that again. Still doesn't mean people should be allowed to have sex before 18, just because of they're allowed the information. A 16 years old is allowed the information about driving, but aren't allowed to drive cars before 18.
" Still doesn't mean people should be allowed to have sex before 18"
But that's not what age of consent is about.
It's not about allowing minors to have sex, it is about allowing adults to have sex with minors.
If two minors have sex, you can't persecute them or stop them from doing it, because they are both victims in that case and cannot consent to each other's actions.
1. I don't think adults should be allowed having sex with someone under 18 years old, because of immaturity and the law is supposed to protect children.
2.. I don't think children should be punished since they're children, but it shouldn't be socially acceptable to allow them sex either. Unwanted pregnancies, abortions, STDs, traumas etc. are all bad consequences because of sex and children aren't capable to handle it. Most children aren't ready to become mothers and fathers. They doesn't have full time jobs or a finished education.
18 because that's when the average person graduates high school, so no worries about becoming a parent during high school.
The law would do very little to reduce teen pregnancy. That's almost always a reflection of the parenting. And they aren't going to prosecute other teens for having sex together.
Age of Consent laws are largely to protect young teens from adults.
I think if someone has the right sex education, know the consequences, and can make decisions on their own they should be able to have sex. That doesn't mean 16 & that doesn't mean 18, just when those requirements are apply because damn this world is populated with very uneducated parents
I voted 18+. The fact that some people voted 12 is disturbing...
Mental maturity should be taken into account followed by the individual's knowledge of sex and protection.
They want 12 so they don't have to travel to Thailand to get some 12 yr old ass.
@Daniela1982 Gross...
Girls are even fully developed physically until around 14 to 17 years old. A female's brain isn't fully developed until early 20s.
Right? If you’re an adult and you have sex with a 12 year old you’re considered a child molester opposed to statutory rape.
Personally, I think it should be 14/15. Currently in the UK it is 16. I lost my virginity when I was twelve, 4 years before the legal age consent, the girl in question was also underage, but still slightly older than I was. There was nothing wrong with it and as a result all that's happened is that I'm more careful with contraception than most my age and I'm more experienced 🤷 of course the issues with lowering it include that some people will abuse this, but they do that anyway, that isn't a fault of the age of consent, that's a fault of criminology education and available help to those abused. Here where I live, most people have tried drugs, alcohol and sex before they're even half way through high school.
True! I knew right from wrong at 14. People just want to put off nature because money is everything!
I think age of consent should be 15. I mean, people younger than that are having sex and it's strange to think that a 16yo can't be with an 18yo it just feels ironic.
People under 18 tends to be less developed and more childlike. It's not good for children to have sex because of it's consequences like becoming mothers and fathers too early, STDs, traumas etc. Being immature, not finished your education, not having a full time job etc. would lead to poverty and a bad life for their children. In addition, if you're too young to marry you're also too young to have sex since it's recommended to have sex till after marriage for very good reasons.
The minium age by law should be 18, although the recommendation should be after 20. Many women should wait till their early 20s and men to their mid or late 20s. Pregnant children would only increase the abortion rate and it's not healthy for children to be it.
18 was the legal age for voting and there's no scientific basis on an 18yo being sexually mature or whatever. Anyway, if you are looking for physical development one could have sex from age 15 and if you wanna consider mental development too then many don't fully grow mature till they are 25.
The ideal would be just waiting to have sex to the mid 20s and after you're married. Doesn't you support waiting till after marriage?
Yes I also believe it's ide but not everyone has the same Faith and there has to be a reasonable minumum age right?
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16 yr old with a 18yr old is fine. but age of consent means after you turn 16, guy of any age is allowed to have sex with you. how about 46 and 16? Is that ironic too?
@Porcelaine if 20 and 60 is ironic too.
I don't think age of concent is as important as age gap. You are 18 but you prob wouldn't want 50yr olds creeping around you. So I think there should be age gap limit even after 18 until early twenties.
@Porcelaine when should there be no age gap, precisely? Because no matter what you can't restrict an age gap for an adult. No matter how bad it sounds, it's legal to have sex or be in a relationship with another adult as long as they aren't related in any other way.
Honestly, sex before marriage is a bad idea but considering that not everyone is raised the same way as I've been, at least educating young boys and girls about such matters should be universal.
You can't prevent underaged people from having sex with adults either, but the laws do punish the ones who do so it makes them scared at least. Same should be for age gaps
@Porcelaine this will only complicate things even more. A simple age of consent ruling is just enough.
Its not since people disagree what is the right age for that. And giving a fair age gap would give more of a piece of mind, it would also not punish 19yr old for having sex with a 17yr old if legal age is 18, since they are both teena
@Porcelaine fair enough. But the age gap matter is very subjective and I think it's too much to put a restriction on that.
Yes, it would not be the easiest one to do
It should be based on the following rules 1 being the top most priority:
1. Certain types of mentally challenged person, can't give consent at any age.
2. A financially and socially independent person can give consent at any age (as long as it doesn't rule 1 isn't violated). So if a 16 year old lives by themselves and earns for themselves, they can give consent.
3. Age of consent should be 18 (as long as rule 1 and 2 aren't violated). So this applies to non-mentally challenged person, living with a guardian/parents.
18 any younger and it seems a problem. But I also think it is crazy to think just because someone is 18 that they are automatically equipped to make the decision
eight'teen', when you're 18 you're technically still a teenager and most people at 18 still acts like teenagers so I think the ones who decided 18 is an adult is probably a pedophile or some pervert lol
@Emmalouise03 The laws are probably just outdated. Back then, after graduating high school (which was optional but even more so college), you were already considered an adult! Ready to take on adult responsibilities!
Source: 1950s and before.
@SueAnon84 we have something called confirmation in norway, its your day and you celebrate, it's the year you turn 15 and it used to mean that you're officially an adult, but now it's kinda pointless cause all we get out of it is a lot of money, since we're not actually adults yet so
Unfortunately the truth is everyone is going to mature differently and there is no good hard fast rule
True, but I think the law exsists to protect those under 14 (or 16 in some countries) from being prosecuted, just in case they want to have sex early!
18+ where I live it's 16, now I don't have a huge problem with it but I do think it's a little young. I don't think we should punish teens who are fucking but it'll help protect children from adults.
The point is if theyre old enough to make an adult choice they shouldn't need that protection, STD is an STD. Preggers is preggers. doesn't how old the prick was
@IIGrifterSixII You're a creep, go away.
@IIGrifterSixII Psychological development says teens that young are basically helpless prey if we don't have these laws in place. You gross, shortsighted sicko.
10-12 is the age when people naturally start having sex IF it is available and they have not been threatened. Bar and bat mitzvahs (at 13) do not announce readiness for sex, but readiness for family-making; most people have their first sexual experiences much earlier. Arresting people for having consensual sex because of age is driven by fantasy, the idea that sex creates a kind of metaphysical harm. But the harm is in our (local) fantasies, and not experienced by the enjoyers of the sex. Another reason is that people like seeing others punished, especially happy people. The idea that a 17 year-old high-school basketball player is a victim of child molestation because he got a blow-job from a 21 year old, rather than a 14 year old, is insane. But that's American law, and we like seeing pretty young blonds locked up for blowing blacks when we white guys can't get any.
18 but I hate people who cite STD’s as a reason, that’s like a 1% chance.
The real reason is the maturity
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And pregnancy.
18+ in general, but children should not be criminalised for having sex with children within their age group (+/- 3 years difference) providing consent has been established.
The purpose of age of consent laws is to protect children, not harm them. And dragging kids through the legal system for having consensual sex with kids in their age group is harming them.
ONE AGE : one age to be tried as an adult, be able to drive, decide to get an abortion , decide transition, decide to have sex.
If a kid can be put to death or incarcerated the rest of their life at 14 because they were mentally competent that the whole " oh theyre a child" when it comes to sex doesn't hold water.
I think people shouldn't be imprisoned before the age of 18. Same with sex.
18 is unrealistic were just criminalizing nature at that point. Are you the most mature at 14 15 or 16? No. But your are still a stupid kid that doesn't know a damn thing well into your 20s. Look at college culture. They want to say its rape culture. How about bad decision making culture? But we dont outlaw it because its not reasonable. Kids at 14 15 16 1and 17 are out having sex. Most girls date older guys, 18 and over and there's 0 difference whether a girl gets tagged by a 18 yo pecker or a 50 yo pecker. Not functionally except if an 18 yo gets her preggers she's screwed. If it werent ilegal and a 25 year old got her preggers there's someone to hld finicially responsible that can actually meet the responsibilities. I dont know how many HS girls I new where dating 20 -25 yo men. I dated a few underage girls when i was 19 and 20 because I was stupid and I liked them and I didn't realized how horrible females are and how risky it was. Thank goodness it all worked out. All Im saying is we should minimize the damage and incarcerating people needlessly is ineffective and counter productive. Give them sex ed, prepare them to make better choices and if you dont want your daughter out riding the carosel at 15 be a better parent. regardless she's just gonna do it at 18 so whatever
Age of consent is correlated to the basic education standards. In most Asian countries, they don’t have middle school. So that means a person can start Freshman college at 16. Therefor age of consent is 16.
Going back in time to the dark ages, it’s believable that the age of consent was 12-14 because the life expectancy of women back then were 30 years old, and 40 years old for men. People died early so they started a family early.