www.latimes.com/.../biden-says-if-youre-black-and-dont-vote-for-him-youre-not-black-hes-right
https://twitter.com/i/status/1264692821325426689
This is part of why I left the democrat party #walkaway
https://youtu.be/4Pjs7uoOkag
That was a negativity racially charged statement. Designed to pressure black people into voting for him. If you dont understand it relies on the hate flowing around for Trump and the Republican party. So if a black person declares they plan to vote for "not Biden" they can be publically shamed.
My point of view. "Fuck that noise and he needs to never say shit like that agian. He has lost my vote just like many politicians who try to manipulate racial tensions in the US in such a negative fashion."
Unfortunately manipulating racial tensions is all the democrats seem to do anymore! This is in part why I left the democrat party #walkaway!
https://youtu.be/4Pjs7uoOkag
This is a Democratic tactic that always comes up to keep minorities in check. Make them feel less than equal or like they have no sense of self worth without them.
Yes they literally think they own black people and their votes!
Stop misusing the word "literally" ! LOL Besides, your statement is pure conjecture.
Statement is pure experience. #walkaway
https://youtu.be/4Pjs7uoOkag
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There are quite intelligent and thoughtful black Americans who believe that the philosophy of the left - taking care of minorities - provides a disincentive for them to become independent and autonomous. Some even see that as a deliberate attempt to manipulate black Americans for political advantage and that it is not truly motivated by concern for the needs of this minority.
If Democrats have difficulty understanding that black Americans can see through their charade, then perhaps Democrats have underestimated the intelligence of all black people.
Sounds racist to me.
While I agree with the majority of what you said, do the Republicans offer anything to benefit them? Hell no. They don't benefit anyone other than bootlickers and the people who are having their boots licked. And the philosophy of the Left is to make society for equal and fair.
Whose being manipulative now?
Prior to covid-19, unemployment among black Americans was at a historic low level. Don't real jobs county as a benefit of conservative leadership?
They already see through it. No one is buying his BS apology, no one is buying its a "joke" not even the guy who interviewed him! But Joe Biden is a microcasm of the SJWs that have sadly taken over the democrat party! They really do beleive they "own" minorities and they are "entitled" to their votes. The "concerns" over the "needs" of the minority are fake, they want a permanet underclass of people they can control. This is not all democrats just the SJWs that are currently in control of the party.
Yes, I concur. There are Democrats who are more centrists who I think are patriots, and I don't wisdom their motives though I may disagree with some of their goals. However, the extremists are getting the attention now and that guarantees a second term for Trump.
Nobody should be voting left wing these days. The democrats have managed to alienate moderate democrats with the woke culture and SJW nonsense.
First off all men are labeled oppressors to women. That is men of every race. I don’t know about you, but I’m too busy working and building a life to oppress anyone (sarcasm).
All whites are labeled oppressors and privileged.
Martin Luther King said: “I have a dream that my 4 little children will one day live in a nation where they are not judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”
I’m sure all whites and all males would like just that. To not be labeled as privileged and oppressors based on their gender and skin color and rather be judged by the content of their character. To judge an entire races or an entire gender regardless of what mental gymnastics one must do to arrive at these conclusions is racist and sexist itself.
To further more label blacks as victims is racist and insulting. To imply they need the help of SJW’s as they are incapable of fighting injustice and taking care of themselves is racist. It’s almost like saying “listen here black men, you don’t know what’s good for you, me being white and having gone to college knows better about the challenges the black community faces, so listen to me.” Being white, I personally would find it more insulting to be labeled as the SJW labels blacks than how whites are already labeled by them.
I think being black has nothing to do with voting for Biden. Look at Kanye West. He’s a Trump supporter/republican. Is he going to be told he’s not black for making a choice instead of being treated as property and hurded along the to vote democrat? I think the left senses displeasure with their politics from blacks and wants to remind them that they are owned by the Democratic Party as far as their concerned and to vote appropriately.
I know, and ironically it is the typical white SJW that is racist, they think they literally "own" Black people and their vote!
Indeed sir!
No, but if another black person supports trump or conservative agendas, I do have a negative opinion of them.
I'm voting for Bernie because I don't live in a swing state. Biden is trash too. He has an entire history of being more conservative than some republicans back in the day, that was how he got popular way back when. He was against bussing (integrating schools) and tried to argue that segregation happened by mistake, so we shouldn't force it. This had a significant impact on the integration effort for civil rights. And that's just one issue people have with him. Biden can kiss my ass, right along with Trump. But the Democrats are stupid af and corrupt, so their establishment was too threatened by Bernie. This election was more about defeating Bernie than it was about defeating Trump. Biden over Trump any day, but that's not really saying much. I still think he's going to lose tbh, but some polls have him coming out ahead. I predict that the same shit will happen that happened in 2016, because the playbook is literally almost exactly the same. The logic is astoundingly absent. I'm already prepared for 4 more years of Trump mentally. I think he's going to fillet and rotisserie grill Biden.
And a white man being so bold as to say something like that to black people is arrogant, ugly, and extremely problematic in my opinion. But y'all voted for him so, eh.
I wish more people realized this.
@themythos He's still on the ballot technically. So yes, but you can still vote for him even though he "suspended his campaign"
@themythos :D :D :D :D
"Biden over Trump any day" So you want to vote for a racist sexual predator, instead of Trump?
@genuinlysensitive
I think you're confused and maybe forgot 2016? Trump *is* a racist sexual predator. These are the options this time I'm afraid. Both of them have shitty politics, but Trump is a few steps further into the "fuck all humanity all the way and I'm not that concerned about the consequences" camp, so it's a no from me dog. But be the best you that you can be, I guess... >.>
While I'm not technically a true Democrat (I'm a leftist - democratic socialist), I never vote Republican. There would need to be a seismic shift in their party agendas and underlying philosophies for me to ever feel it suitable to vote Republican, *especially* as a black person. And definitely not ever at the presidential level. Conservative ideology is defined primarily by concern for business interests and the individual over the good of the collective whole, the little guy. Thus their morally bankrupt and horrendous policies alongside tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations. As a socialist, this is about as far from my value system as you could possibly get. I live a very economically privileged life, but most of my family is poor. Why would I vote for the party that wants to gut public services that many in my community rely on, on top of all the racism? On one hand, black people are entitled to the same freedom of thought and figuring out their ideas as anyone else. I don't want to deny anyone that. And I don't like the attitude Dems have where they think they have our vote in the bag. Still, there's a very clear disconnect between Republican policies and the well being of the black community in America. Not all black people have the same histories, of course, so maybe I could understand a black person from an immigrant background being conservative a bit more. However, I am African American - my family inherited all the legacies from slavery and racism in this country and the effects of what that looks like in our communities. I literally have no business voting for Republicans in like 99% of cases that would happen in reality. The Democrats suck too and are actually worse in some ways (they pretend to be what they aren't), but until our electoral system changes and independents get more access to the ballot, these are the choices. Bernie was the only real option here. At this point, it's just trying to cut losses.
@Anonymous I agree with whT you said about Bernie, the only thing I'd like to add is that personally I would never vote for Biden. Vote third party, until these corrupt assholes are thrown out, nothing will change, plus I refuse to vote for a rapist, if two rapists run against each other then I won't vote for either.
@2Lips if you think Biden will work with progressives then you are being naive. They're both corrupt rapists who will use their power to make policies that benefot their friends/donors, that's just how politics works too. At best we'll get some Obama style progressiveness where Biden will give 1 progressive policy but it will only affect old people since old people make up the majority of voters in America. Just look at how they tried to force Bernie off the ballot on new york just to hurt the progressives ability to affect the democratic agenda. They will NEVER work with us, at best they'll give us a half measure to appease us for a while so they can get their second term. You couldn't pay me to vote for Biden, I'm sorry but I refuse to vote for someone I know is a rapist, even just the idea of voting for Biden disgusts me to my very core.
@OpinionOwner then dont vote either Democrat or republican, vote Green party and show these fucking corrupt politicians that you are done letting them get away with anything and everything. These fuckers need to be held accountable, and the only way to do that is to vote third party and throw these corrupt bastards out of government. Not to mention the idea of voting for Biden leaves a disgusting taste in my mouth, I can't stop wondering how many women he will rape and sexually abuse/harass if he is put into another position of power. He deserves to be in prison, not in a position where he gets to rape even more, and so I can't vote for him in good conscience.
If you don't like the dem attitude that they have your votes for free then your only choice is to vote Green party. Both of these parties get by with propoganda that tells their voting base that the other parties leader is worse. Vote democrat fixes nothing, staying home changes nothing, voting green is the only way for you to tell them that you are done being pushed around, if you're willing to vote for a rapist then you're willing to vote for ANYONE that the democratic party puts out as long as the republican seems worse, and the democrats know that. The democrats secretly love Trump, he makes it very easy for them to pretend like they are the more moral option. If the Republicans had an actually decent presidential nominee then Democrats wouldn't know what to do.
@Girther10 lets be real, the majority of republicans don't know what they stand for until fox news tells them.
@devilman666 I am still on the fence about what I will do. I agree with you on everything and I was so pissed with Democrats when Bernie pulled out that I turned pro-Trump for a whole day. I want them to learn a lesson and fail miserably but at the same time it will be the population who suffers and I think that voting democrat will at least minimize the damage. But you’re right, my conscious tells me to vote third party once again. Fuck people who try to make me feel guilty for allowing republicans to win. They’re part of the problem.
It's understandable that you're on the fence, this is not an easy situation for any voter, or at least it shouldn't be. Anytime you have to pick between two evils you should be careful with what you choose. Tbh I don't think Trump is much worse than Biden, in my view, they're both terrible, as I said, Biden is corrupt and he won't do anything for the prpgressives. Plus, I can't help but wonder how many women Biden will abuse if he is given another position of authority. I don't want to teach them a lesson, I just want these corrupt rapists thrown out of the government. Empty the entire senate and house of representatives and start over.
They are the problem, America is stuck in a cycle where the political parties give you terrible candidates every year, seemingly just so they can try to convince you that the other side is more evil. Unless Americans start voting third party in HUGE numbers then nothing will change, voting for either party makes no difference, and staying home is exactly what they want you to do. They already showed us what they do to those who try to hurt their power, just look at how CNN and MSNBC treated Bernie, they even removed him from the ticket in new york just because they could. Voting third party hurts their power, so they would much rather you stay home and feel like its hopeless. As for anyone who tries to make you feel guilty, I agree, fuck them. It's a democracy, you have the right to vote for whoever you want.
I missed the part where Trump is a "racist and sexual predator".
@2Lips Biden will not work with progressives... He vowed to veto a Medicare for all bill even if it passed unanimously. He has no leverage to do anything for progressive voters and doesn't care about them. His famous words are, "give me a break" when told about the struggles of young people.
@SirRexington Yeah I think everyday I’m leaning more and more toward voting 3rd party again. Like I said in another comment, when Bernie pulled out of the race I went full on Trump train for like a day just because I was so pissed with the Democrats. I don’t give a fuck anymore if people accuse me of allowing the republicans to win. Honestly this is the lesson that they need to learn. I couldn’t care less if republicans keep winning every single election from here on out. As long as I’m voting third party then I’m good.
What proof do you have that Trump is a "sexual predator" or "rapist"? I have provided multiple examples of Joe Biden saying these things, out of his own mouth and with his own hands! I understand you don't like Trump but accusing him of horrible things without evidence is wrong.
Here is one more example of Joe Biden being a pedo, but the democrats and the media give him a pass:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1264692821325426689
@2lips Biden's behavior doesn't seem very "Christian" to me... but (d) so he gets a pass right? Unlike Kavanaugh, proven innocent, and a REAL Christian. #me4get.
@genuinlysensitive OMG dude I can’t with you. You’re literally not listening or reading to anything I’ve been saying. You must be brain dead or something. It’s only you Republican trump supporters who cannot think straight. This is the final time I will say this and then I’m going to have to mute you. Just because I am not a trump supporter means I support Biden or Obama or the Democrats. If you can’t understand that then you have some serious SERIOUS mental issues and need to be checked out.
@2Lips what she meant to say was, "Just because I am not a Trump supporter does NOT mean I support Biden or Obama or the Democrats."
@devilman666 yes thank you.
@Girther10 Considering that I literally study politics and pay very close attention to politics, work in an industry that is very political, and am a political organizer myself, no.
While it is true that voting for Trump if you are black makes you a really dumb person, that's true of anyone who votes for that retard. I'm sorry but after everything that has happened these last four years of you still vote for Trump you deserve to get your voter registration revoked cause clearly you are incapable of making an informed decision and a democracy is built on the foundation of an informed citizenry. We can't allow a bunch of ignorant morons to vote when their votes could hurt millions of people.
That said, Biden isn't much better. The Democrats have their base as well as undecided voters in a bind. It's an abusive relationship. They threaten you with Republicans so you will vote for them even if they themselves are a terrible outcome. It's the same scenario as a spouse who faces abuse at home but remains with that partner in fear of the even worst option, homelessness and food insecurity. The people are that abused spouse between a rock and a hard place and the Democrats use that to their advantage.
And also, the Democrats and Republicans agree on a lot more than they disagree. And whenever they do agree you can be sure it's to hurt the American people. That's why we need a revolution. Reform failed. We tried it and it did not work because power concedes to no one.
One of the SJWs who voted Yes!
I dont support a lot of liberal things. I support more conservative things yet i dont specifically support those who win the elections. I just prefer to stay out of politics at this point. I’ll either register as independent instead or just stop voting all in all
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Well you should be invovled. Because when people aren't involved and informed we get sub-par people running the government! You don't need to take sides, you can be an independant, I am as well, but please, stay informed, and not just by the Nightly News! They are the ones who gave us Joe Biden!
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@genuinlysensitive precisely.
This is so wrong on so many levels. Correct me if am wrong , but isn't it racist to say if u are a certain color u should/must do something and if you are another color you should/ must do something else? 🤷♀️
It was a dumb thing for Biden to say and he's since apologized and should have.
He wasn't trying to get votes, this is how SJWs that have taken over the democratic party think. They literally think they own Black people and their votes. Same thing with Hispanics. They want to bring in tens of millions of illegals, not because they "aren't racist" but because they want a permanent underclass of brown people they can control through welfare. And you are right it is 100% racist! I beleive most people see right through is BS apology as well!
@genuinlysensitive You are hitting so many nails on the head on this topic. Bravo 👏🏻 just here admiring your work lol.
Malaysian here. A lot of Asians do not like westerners because of their so called progressive mindset. These people think that they are helping us minorities but instead are damaging and pissing us off. No one should be forced to do something cause of their race... period. I once again direct people to research the origins of American progressivism. The movement was lead by whites who believed it was their God-given duty to be paternalistic figures towards racial minorities.
"Paternalistic" is a euphamism. It is basically Fascism/Marxism with the race based system in the Old South. They basically, try to control minorities with welfare, and keep them as a permanent underclass. They literally think they "own" these people and are entitled to their votes!
Me I look at things from a historical perspective and what I see now also. Historically the Democratic Party is the racist ones. If anyone who agrees with this idiotic man in the White House I look at them sideways. I believe in a person with a decent character and a great track record in politics should be president regardless of their political party. I don’t know much about Biden but I will look into everyone that runs and determine my decision based on the person not by having my decision swayed to democratic just because I’m black.
while trump has said some really dumb shit, its like biden is trying to one up him. i have never heard such nonsense. if anything it makes more sense to be black amd republican. but the concept. the idiocy of suggesting race dictates party preference is so absurd.. its this kind of nonsense reasoning that virtually garantees trumps re election. the party is just so full of really bizarre radicals that its impossible to take them serious. mcconnel and pelosi are such perverse examples from both parties that while i am republican by doctrine i just can't even acknowledge these baffons. both parties have completely lost touch with reason. but bidens statement sure moves the bar as to how out of touch our civil servants are
Its not just Biden this is how the SJWs that have taken over the democratic party think. They literally think they own Black people and their votes! This is partly why I left the democratic party!
Of course not, but its this attutide that allows democrats to consistently get the black vote, by turning them into a monolith and pressuring them into a specific minset, one that is then reinforced by the community itself (which will punish and ostrocise any one who is black and doesn't keep toeing the democrat line).
The irony is every bad thing that has ever happened to blacks in the US happened to them because of democrats so you would think they would be in direct opposition with them rather then their biggest supporters (despite years of devoted support to them which has resulted in not only life not getting better for them but actually worse).
Here he goes with his crazy rambling again. Smh.
Look, to be charitable, we can say he was sort of making a joke. It would have to be intended to mean something like “we support the black community, so if you don’t vote for us, you must not be a part of the community”.
That’s still weird sounding and it’s about the best interpretation I can give.
A more middling interpretation is that he was being hyperbolic as he made some blacks out to be race traitors.
A more negative interpretation is that he was making some blacks out to be race traitors and wasn’t being hyperbolic.
Overall it just wasn’t a good look.
Funny how Trump can be pottymouth and word things weirdly but still overall make sense and not be crazy (like the disinfectant thing), but whenever Biden talks he has these bananas gaffes, or grandpa-isms, or other crazy nonsense. What’s he up to now, is this like the fifth time on video that he’s told voters not to vote for him?
There the real problem. Even in the charitable interpretation, Biden basically just assuming black support, but what’s Trump doing? And what are republicans doing? They’re saying “here’s what we’re going to do for you” and meanwhile the Dems are basically just saying “well, you’re black right? So you vote blue no matter who. End of story, no questions asked.”
That was not a joke, and trying to convince people that is was won't work. It won't work on Blacks, Whites, anyone. Even Charlamange who interviewed him said it wasn't a joke and it was racist. People also see through his fake appology.
But its more than that. This is how the SJWs who have taken over the democratic party think.
It's Biden, I don't think even he knows what he's saying when he says it. So it's hard for us to decide exactly what he means. My point was even the best interpretation still looks like shit for him. I don't are to call him racist and all that shit because he's already bad enough to never vote for even without being racist.
SJWs do think that way, but they won't defend him. They feel like Biden robbed Bernie of the win and that's more important to them than defending their own rhetoric. They'll eat their own.
Anyway, not only is Biden already bad, but it seems like there's a real chance he's not even the nominee. Hilary just had a big fundraising week "on behalf of Biden", they could be teeing up to drop in Hilary or maybe Cuomo at the last minute -- which would be fkn hilarious. I want to see Hilary and the Dems give the middle finger to the whole nomination campaign process and the other candidates, then run against Trump again and get fkn crushed.
It's just like dementia. You forget names, dates, then your internal censor goes and you start saying what you really mean. This is what Joe Biden is doing is saying what he really thinks. This is how your typical SJW thinks, accuse others of what you are guilty of, eg., racism sexual assault etc. As for Hillary Clinton she has been planning to come into the convention and have them nominate her. Thus evicerating any semblance that in the democratic primary your vote means anything!
... and it's going to be a hilarious shitshow.
Biden is such a Gaffe master. I can't believe people think he's senile or demented, you can find clips of him from 10, 20, 30 years ago where he sounds exactly the same. He's exactly the same as he ever was, it's just now people are paying attention. And by the way, the only way he won the Primaries is because they were completely and totally rigged:
I'm surpised social media isn't blowing up over a what he said. He has no right to say anything even close to measuring anyone "blackness". Also, its not his freaking business.
#youaintblack was blowing up Twitter when it happened. They may have Censored it by now. I LOVE the transparent SJWs who say "It's a joke", because the truth is ALL the SJW times make racist comments like that in private, and think they are Funny!
Sorry I meant to @Mystic_Nova☝🏻
Nope, he's just pandering and quilt shaming minorities into voting for him. It's a huge mistake for Democrats to just assume minorities will vote for them cause their Democrat. What ever happened to earning one's vote. Last election took a lot of heat voting for voting third party instead of voting for Hillary, not my fault she didn't earn my vote.
That is the thing, he's not pandering. The SJW types that have taken over the democrat party are incredibly racist! Part of the reason I left. Good on you for not pulling the lever for someone just because they are a democrat! If they don't measure up #walkaway!
https://youtu.be/4Pjs7uoOkag
Ben Carson called it years ago.
"White liberals are the most racist people there is, because they put black people in a box and insist they think one way-- and if they dont, they attack them as illegitimate, all the while denying their policies destroy blacks"
Dr Ben Carson
Democrats become very upset when African Americans refuse to stay on the Democrat plantation. They think they know what's best for them and -- as Biden's statement shows -- they even think they know what it means to be legitimately black. It's all very, very condescending.
It seems like our country just keeps driving around the same roundabout each year... Black America, White America, Hispanic American, Liberal America, Conservative America... Nothing but going around the same circle now for decades. Thanks Joe for perpetuating this nonsense for the next 4 years despite who wins in November.
It's fallacious. I can't agree to an illogical statement. Beign a certain race or a certain gender is a biological condition you are born with and die with. No matter what you vote, no matter how you dress, no matter what music you hear or what hobbies you have... you won't be more or less black/white, more or less man/woman for doing anything.
The longer Joe keeps running, the more he makes himself a less viable candidate! He's a JOKE, and a liar, and a "WIMP" He won't stand up to China, or Iran, or North Korea! He is even pissing off the base of his party!!
The democratic leadership threw their base under the bus in favor of the Feminists and SJWs. Part of the reason I left #walkway
https://youtu.be/4Pjs7uoOkag
You know I'm not a racist, but Joe is following Barracks trick of riding the race card and get into the office & not do a dam thing but unlike Barrack, Joe ain't going to take care of his own. My saying is never to trust a snake & Joe's the biggest snake I know.
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