I don't like them not because they pretend to be girls (when they are mens)/boys (when they are girls), but i don't like them because they don't want to accept some biological facts that prove they are what they are, men ar men and girl ar girl. No mather how good looking a man/woman will be for the same sex they will still be what they have been born.
That's like saying that people who adopt children don't accept biological facts about reproduction. Oh wait, no it's not because there's an underlying neurological (i. e. BIOLOGICAL) cause for transgenderism.
@Ad_Quid_Orator yes, so? I will olso feel angry, if an adopted child, don't want to accept or understand that his curent parents are not his biological panrents
@Ad_Quid_Orator on a diferent question has been asked. "will you accept transgender to participate in woman sport?". Why there people say NO and haven't been so open minde are libertinist?
And transgenders accept that they were born the gender that they are the opposite as the one they identify as but that doesn't mean we don't treat them as the gender that they identify as. Just like someone who's adopted knows that their parents aren't their biological parents but they still treat them as their parents.
@Ad_Quid_Orator This is the diference bethwin USA and the ex comunist blok, we still have morality. Olso somebody who is minde developed can make schizophrenia and go crazy and pretend is Bamby from disney
That doesn't prohibit you from treating your adopted parents like your parents just like it shouldn't prevent you from treating someone who's brain developed in the manner characteristic of a female as such even if the individual was born male.
@Ad_Quid_Orator is just a respect bethwin an adopted person and adopted parents, it will never bee the same love that a natural parent will have for his kids. We can see you the stepbrothers, all the time the parents take care of them both but have a preference for the biological one.
@Ad_Quid_Orator My ex have a daoughter (theyr father abandon them), i get along whit her mom and her daughter even bether (she whas 7) (my girlfrien 29, me 22) and afther a time when i whas talking and have fun whit both (playing whit her daughter and her toys) her daughter ask me if she can call me "dad". They do that because they just need nomebody to cover that emptiness from theyr life, is important for them to just call somebody mom and dad. But olso even them can't fill up completly that hole. It just make them feel bether.
@Ad_Quid_Orator You can't change the reality a man will be forever a man and a woman will be forever a woman. If tomorow i have an accident and lose my dick and balls, will that make me a girl?
You can't change their chromosomes but you can interact with them in a manner you would with someone who's brain developed (male or female) the way theirs did.
@Ad_Quid_Orator the female brain and the man drain ar olso not the same so that person is having a man brain i should treat him as a man as well for girl, if the girl >girl brain girl treetmant
Again, it does. If someone had a neurological impairment that stunted brain development at the age of 10 you wouldn't treat them like an adult when they were 25 and if someone is a man but has a brain that developed like a woman you wouldn't treat them like a man.
I don’t feel comfortable watching a male to woman baphomet in the UFC beating the shit out of women just because he couldn’t cut it by facing people in the men’s UFC.
What I personally "hate" is how society is preventing this dysphoria from being properly treated by doctors, and is putting the notion into the heads of dysphorics that this mental condition is somehow NORMAL. My "hate" or "dislike" isn't directed at these dysphorics themselves... but rather at our sick PC society.
Depends on where you live here in the UK, it's not bad you get the odd person get stressed, but it is against the law to show prejudice, we are all supposed to live in peace and harmony...
I don't hate then, but I see them as mentally ill and the the fact that many people try to normalise this mental illness and recommend hormones and surgery that permanently mutilate people rather than giving them proper treatment.
First of all, it's a neurological condition, not a mental one. Second, saying that we shouldn't treat them as the gender that they've transitioned to because it's "legitimizing their illness" is like saying we shouldn't give people in wheelchairs ramps to access buildings because it's "legitimizing their disability".
@Ad_Quid_Orator by the way your study is only evidence of plasticity. the brain changes based no what we do. doesn't prove they were born that way, only that they now think that way
1. Your study doesn'tprove anything regarding transgenderism. In fact, there are bigger differences among the sexes than there are between the sexes. The neurological differences between men and women are rather small to be exact. But those differences coming into play and making someone have a more "feminine" or "masculine" brain doesn't make them suddenly the opposite gender. Those are two very different things. One is perfectly normal in the variety of personalities in our species while the other is a mental illness.
2. Mental illness =/= Physical disability. Strawmanning as I said.
It's a typical "people are afraid of what they dont understand" type of thing. While I dont hate trans people, It doesn't change the way i truly see their gender originally is.
I dislike a lot of personality types; and one of them is the type to stare at themselves in the mirror all the time, constantly thinking of their crotch, looks, and obsessing over something as stupid as "gender". I dislike them because I find their personality type to be extremely irritating.
Why am I supposed to 'like' something that I don't want to agree to? I also don't like fermented fish - no one criticizes me for THAT (not even the fish)
@007kingifrit No one impedes your freedom of speech. Your mom also told you how to talk and not talk. You can say whatever you want. If you call someone something you know they don't wanna be called that is on you and a big show of your ego. If there are only 2 genders then they aren't invading anything. A transmale is a male.
@2Pink actually there are multiple instances of actual freedom of speech being impeded. such as when in a court room in california the judge ordered someone to refer to the defendant as "she" when it was really a man
or in Canada misgendering is a human rights violation and can get your kids taken away
@DevikaButts95 everything related to real love, real sex, real marriage and our beliefs in god... etc If you aren't able to see what's wrong with them, than your blins 😏
Three problems. 1. Real love and real marriage exists between these people what. Lmao. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can call it not real. 2. So... where's the morality problem. How does it negatively affect you in any way shape or form. You never actually refuted my original thing. 3. You're not God, do not speak for him. You are not allowed to past judgement. :)
@DevikaButts95 go ask god or read about god's teachings than come and tell if such things are acceptable or not... If you support them or have some sympathy for them, it doesn't mean that your right!
I mean God created them actually. But ya' know, if you go off your (probably bs) religion you' fail to uphold anyways, sure maybe it's "bad". It's still not actually creating a morality problem though because it's not actually negatively effecting anyone, as you still fail to explain. Further problems, it's STILL up to God to decide if it's really a morality problem and judge accordingly... not you, you're just supposed to uphold morals, which you've already failed the moment you decided to outright hate a group of people. Love thy sinner, not thy sin.
When a male althete becomes trans its because they coukd win at sports against their own sex but have a physical advantage since now they are allowed into the ladies section.
Ah.. I get what you mean, but do you think that's the only reason why so many people have a problem with them? Not every transgender wants to participate in sports, though.
The use of hormones and surgery to change one's body and the political ideologies connected to them are a blight on the world. Transhumanism should not be tolerated.
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I don't like them not because they pretend to be girls (when they are mens)/boys (when they are girls), but i don't like them because they don't want to accept some biological facts that prove they are what they are, men ar men and girl ar girl.
No mather how good looking a man/woman will be for the same sex they will still be what they have been born.
That's like saying that people who adopt children don't accept biological facts about reproduction. Oh wait, no it's not because there's an underlying neurological (i. e. BIOLOGICAL) cause for transgenderism.
@Ad_Quid_Orator yes, so? I will olso feel angry, if an adopted child, don't want to accept or understand that his curent parents are not his biological panrents
@Ad_Quid_Orator on a diferent question has been asked. "will you accept transgender to participate in woman sport?". Why there people say NO and haven't been so open minde are libertinist?
And transgenders accept that they were born the gender that they are the opposite as the one they identify as but that doesn't mean we don't treat them as the gender that they identify as. Just like someone who's adopted knows that their parents aren't their biological parents but they still treat them as their parents.
@Ad_Quid_Orator So? Should we treat a man who pretends to be a woman as a woman?
We should treat someone who's mind develops like a woman like a woman even if they're karyotypically a man.
Just like we should treat someone who raised an individual like their parent.
@Ad_Quid_Orator This is the diference bethwin USA and the ex comunist blok, we still have morality.
Olso somebody who is minde developed can make schizophrenia and go crazy and pretend is Bamby from disney
Yeah, we still have the morality to treat people with respect and dysphoria isn't disillusionment.
@Ad_Quid_Orator when you have a dick and say you are a girl it's a mental problem, because biology can't be changed
And if someone doesn't give birth to you they're not your parent -_-
@Ad_Quid_Orator yes, but if you exist 100% you have parents. Is imposible to not have parents.
That doesn't prohibit you from treating your adopted parents like your parents just like it shouldn't prevent you from treating someone who's brain developed in the manner characteristic of a female as such even if the individual was born male.
@Ad_Quid_Orator is just a respect bethwin an adopted person and adopted parents, it will never bee the same love that a natural parent will have for his kids.
We can see you the stepbrothers, all the time the parents take care of them both but have a preference for the biological one.
Well you (in most cases) didn't raise your stepchildren from infancy but adopted children still call their parents "mom & dad".
@Ad_Quid_Orator My ex have a daoughter (theyr father abandon them), i get along whit her mom and her daughter even bether (she whas 7) (my girlfrien 29, me 22) and afther a time when i whas talking and have fun whit both (playing whit her daughter and her toys) her daughter ask me if she can call me "dad". They do that because they just need nomebody to cover that emptiness from theyr life, is important for them to just call somebody mom and dad. But olso even them can't fill up completly that hole. It just make them feel bether.
@Ad_Quid_Orator You can't change the reality a man will be forever a man and a woman will be forever a woman.
If tomorow i have an accident and lose my dick and balls, will that make me a girl?
You can't change their chromosomes but you can interact with them in a manner you would with someone who's brain developed (male or female) the way theirs did.
@Ad_Quid_Orator the female brain and the man drain ar olso not the same so that person is having a man brain i should treat him as a man as well for girl, if the girl >girl brain girl treetmant
Yeah it does.
@Ad_Quid_Orator no it doesn't
Again, it does. If someone had a neurological impairment that stunted brain development at the age of 10 you wouldn't treat them like an adult when they were 25 and if someone is a man but has a brain that developed like a woman you wouldn't treat them like a man.
I wouldn't date one, and the idea of it isn't so easy to think of. However it's 100% their right and I will never discriminate against them.
I think it's perfectly fine not to date them. You have all the right to date who you want to date. I just wish more people had a mindset like you.
I agree, thanks!
I don’t feel comfortable watching a male to woman baphomet in the UFC beating the shit out of women just because he couldn’t cut it by facing people in the men’s UFC.
What I personally "hate" is how society is preventing this dysphoria from being properly treated by doctors, and is putting the notion into the heads of dysphorics that this mental condition is somehow NORMAL. My "hate" or "dislike" isn't directed at these dysphorics themselves... but rather at our sick PC society.
Depends on where you live here in the UK, it's not bad you get the odd person get stressed, but it is against the law to show prejudice, we are all supposed to live in peace and harmony...
They don’t want anything aberrant or differing from their view of normalcy.
I don't hate then, but I see them as mentally ill and the the fact that many people try to normalise this mental illness and recommend hormones and surgery that permanently mutilate people rather than giving them proper treatment.
First of all, it's a neurological condition, not a mental one. Second, saying that we shouldn't treat them as the gender that they've transitioned to because it's "legitimizing their illness" is like saying we shouldn't give people in wheelchairs ramps to access buildings because it's "legitimizing their disability".
1. There is zero proof it is a neurological condition. Try to provide it, though.
2. Strawmanning my argument with an unrelated analogy.
Yeah, not convinced.
1. www.sciencedaily.com/.../180524112351.htm
2. Nope, it's perfectly fitting and you're just conjecturing that it's an unrelated analogy without explaining why.
@Ad_Quid_Orator its a mental disorder
people in wheelchairs actually have broken physical conditions. a tranny? its all in their heads
@Ad_Quid_Orator by the way your study is only evidence of plasticity. the brain changes based no what we do. doesn't prove they were born that way, only that they now think that way
it can change back
@007kingifrit Actually it's a neurological condition relating to how the BRAIN develops so not kidding it's "in their heads".
@007kingifrit And it changes in a way that's characteristic of men or women when we develop once it's developed, you can't reverse it.
I mean if your argument was true pretty any nuerological condition could be "reversed" yet we still have them.
1. Your study doesn'tprove anything regarding transgenderism. In fact, there are bigger differences among the sexes than there are between the sexes. The neurological differences between men and women are rather small to be exact. But those differences coming into play and making someone have a more "feminine" or "masculine" brain doesn't make them suddenly the opposite gender. Those are two very different things. One is perfectly normal in the variety of personalities in our species while the other is a mental illness.
2. Mental illness =/= Physical disability. Strawmanning as I said.
1. There are still diagnostic patterns characteristic to the sexes.
2. By that logic any analogy is a straw-man.
I don't dislike transgenders. I really hate when they are associated with gayism. That is what I dislike
Thanks for the like. I think I remember this comment from a long time ago
There are many answers that differ depending on the circumstance, so who really knows why, unless you ask the offender directly.
It's a typical "people are afraid of what they dont understand" type of thing. While I dont hate trans people, It doesn't change the way i truly see their gender originally is.
I dislike a lot of personality types; and one of them is the type to stare at themselves in the mirror all the time, constantly thinking of their crotch, looks, and obsessing over something as stupid as "gender". I dislike them because I find their personality type to be extremely irritating.
Why am I supposed to 'like' something that I don't want to agree to?
I also don't like fermented fish - no one criticizes me for THAT (not even the fish)
You don't have to like them, but hating them even though they didn't do anything wrong to you. Don't you think that's kinda wrong?
'Hate' indeed is not the right response. My own 'dis-like' manifests in staying on distance.
This bothers me too. I don’t know why. Trans people don’t invade anyone’s lives. Unlike religion.
they do invade woman's bathrooms, female prisons, female sports leagues and they control our freedom by telling us how to talk
@007kingifrit No one impedes your freedom of speech. Your mom also told you how to talk and not talk. You can say whatever you want. If you call someone something you know they don't wanna be called that is on you and a big show of your ego. If there are only 2 genders then they aren't invading anything. A transmale is a male.
@2Pink actually there are multiple instances of actual freedom of speech being impeded. such as when in a court room in california the judge ordered someone to refer to the defendant as "she" when it was really a man
or in Canada misgendering is a human rights violation and can get your kids taken away
I'm all for live and let live, but I refuse to humor them in pretending to be something they're not.
I don't harrass them but at the same time i'm against them and never supports them, to me they are worst than gays and lesbians...
When something is wrong, i cannot just ignore and walk away to let them destroy our morals and values.
Lmao what morals are being destroyed by being trans, gay, or lesbian.
@DevikaButts95 everything related to real love, real sex, real marriage and our beliefs in god... etc
If you aren't able to see what's wrong with them, than your blins 😏
Three problems.
1. Real love and real marriage exists between these people what. Lmao. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can call it not real.
2. So... where's the morality problem. How does it negatively affect you in any way shape or form. You never actually refuted my original thing.
3. You're not God, do not speak for him. You are not allowed to past judgement. :)
@DevikaButts95 go ask god or read about god's teachings than come and tell if such things are acceptable or not...
If you support them or have some sympathy for them, it doesn't mean that your right!
I mean God created them actually. But ya' know, if you go off your (probably bs) religion you' fail to uphold anyways, sure maybe it's "bad". It's still not actually creating a morality problem though because it's not actually negatively effecting anyone, as you still fail to explain.
Further problems, it's STILL up to God to decide if it's really a morality problem and judge accordingly... not you, you're just supposed to uphold morals, which you've already failed the moment you decided to outright hate a group of people. Love thy sinner, not thy sin.
When a male althete becomes trans its because they coukd win at sports against their own sex but have a physical advantage since now they are allowed into the ladies section.
Ah.. I get what you mean, but do you think that's the only reason why so many people have a problem with them? Not every transgender wants to participate in sports, though.
No clue but they can cut off as many of their own limbs they are still guys. Some want attention others truly wise they were female.
If its natural.. im ok.. but willingly transform urself.. that just makes me uncomfy
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Because... " two things are infinite - the Universe and Human Stupidity, and I'm not so sure about the former" - Albert Einstein
The use of hormones and surgery to change one's body and the political ideologies connected to them are a blight on the world. Transhumanism should not be tolerated.
Ahh the 2am questions 😆
That's when the mind starts wondering the most. 😂😂😂