
Should the 17 year old Kyle rittenhouse be charged double homicide?

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He's 17 years old and running around like some kind of vigilante. Judge jury and executioner - self righteously so. Is that the really the kind of innocence you're defending in America?
This is what people have been saying about US gun culture from the start. If you hand out guns like they're sweets (or candy for Americans) you just end up raising the stakes and having idiots deciding life and death on a whim. If the idiotic population in the US didn't have a gun, there would be disagreements, fights, people would end up beat up, potentially in hospital. But they wouldn't be dead at the end of it, for the most part. And now those people will never come back. And now those families have been devestated.
Was he defending himself? Sure, probably. TBH, they're all as bad as each other. He's a fucking idiot for being there in the first place.
In US Property and self righteous black and white ideology > Human life.
Seriously, fuck the USA and all that is happening there. How fucking tragic that we have to see these scenes play out and how little regard is there for human life.
Shame on you all for defending the kind of sickness that is happening all across the news.
And shame on you for making light of this, question asker.
@DSimus It's obvious he didn't see the video and he's just re-blasting Media lies. The rioters were clearly the aggressors, it was no execution. One of the meth out rioters even lunged at him yelling: "Kill me! Kill me!". He was armed and lunged at Kyle and was shot in the head. When Kyle went to call the Police the other rioters tried to kill him. He was there legitimately, rioters were not however.
you could accuse anyone who is engaged in self defence of being "judge jury and executioner" that's fine though because there is no time for due process if your life is in danger
i for one am so thankful we have easy access to guns so we can fight communists. i'm GLAD it was life or death because all fights against communists are life and death, they will slaughter millions if we don't stop them
they fired first. he fired back. that's all that matters
@joeblow123 Gag AI bot disagrees...
Then go agree with bots and algorithms. You're basically the same thing at this point
@TienShenhan hahaha, fuckin' SAVAGE
Do they differentiate between murder and manslaughter? Or like some lesser charge? I think the kid is an absolute cunt for inserting himself into the situation, he clearly just wanted to go out there and find an excuse to go buckwild, so I donāt think that should be encouraged or have a precedent set for that to go unpunished. And a 17 year old definitely shouldnāt have an assault rifle. But at the same time, after you move past how weāve arrived at the situation, the situation then takes place, and if the other people involved had a pistol and skateboard and a Molotov cocktail, I mean... what are you going to do? Everybody involved is responsible for putting themselves in that situation, and I donāt feel like any of them are good or sane people from the sound of it. So itās all a wash to me. If he was the one who ended up killed, Iād be like āand thatās what happens when you show up to a riot with gunā, so thatās my answer for the other guys that got bucked. I just wish people knuckled up and went one on one, and didnāt fuck with all the weaponry. Keep it low stakes while still getting your aggression out.
Depending on his state once you'll 16, you can legally own and have a weapon.
I think he should be charged and convicted with crossing a gun into another state which I think its illegal, but as far the the two dudes he killed, nothing should happen to him since he blasted them in self defense.
Ah, ok, wasnāt aware 16 was the age limit. Whole thing is kind of a āplay stupid games, win stupid prizesā situation to me, haha
you think he's a cunt for defending his family property against violent communists? he's a national hero
i wish you had an ounce of the sense of duty he did
@007kingifrit It's "his family property" now, is it? That's a new one (so probably a lie). He lives in another state, and I'm sure that would have come up before. Apart from anything else, his family would probably have told him to go home.
@007kingifrit oh, bro, itās actually all good, the only news I see at home is FoxNews, I live with my elderly father, so I already heard Tucker Carlsonās and Sean Hannityās takes, i donāt need them parroted back to me, I was already appalled at their mentality to begin with. Appreciate the recap though👍 You did forget to slip in āthe failing New York Timesā somewhere, but weāll let it slide.
Also, can you describe in detail which business was actually his familyās business? I havenāt even seen that on FoxNews. Seems like he was just a vigilante, which I THOUGHT was against this whole ālaw & orderā thing youāre so into. Or are we back to the āif it supports 007kingifritās angle, any rule-breaking is noble, but any other rule-breakers should be executed on sight?ā
And my only āsense of dutyā is to my own right to unbridled freedom from governmental control and forced allegiance.
Maybe thats because if his grandparents are dox'd they'll get burned to the ground, halfwit
@WhiteSteve
If you are going to blame someone blame the local authorities and the law enforcement agencies that refuse to act. A real dick move is to be a rioter who goes around intentionally inflicting pain upon innocent people to satisfy your sadistic desires.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy
"I think he should be charged and convicted with crossing a gun into another state which I think its illegal."
There are extenuating circumstances that we have to look at. In a normal peaceful time, I can see where charging him would be a legitimate decision because the violence is aimed at a specific target. A target that may be guilty of wrongdoing. Thus sparing innocent people. Also in normal peaceful times, law enforcement would do their job with the mayor's and city council's blessing and the only thing this kid would do is complete his high school education.
@WhiteSteve
Who do you support? Rioters, who go around murdering innocent people because they didn't get a pony on their eighth birthday?
Or
A young man who said enough and stoop up to communist bullies while the police and local leaders did nothing to stop the rioters/murderers?
@joeblow123 Well, I think you look at life on earth much differently than I do. My endgame for humanity is not artificially increased survival or prosperity. My endgame is humanity returning to its natural lane. Itāll never realistically happen in my lifetime, or even ever, so I choose to spend my earth experience taking what I like and leaving the rest, in terms of human fuckery. Iām not rooting for or against anyone, or for positive or negative outcomes. Iām just here, man, and I just take notes and opine on what ridiculousness I see from time to time. Front row seats to the freak show.
@WhiteSteve
Okay. I can understand that.
@WhiteSteve
I fight on my feet too. That is why I oppose tyranny.
He will be acquitted on all charges. Except maybe the minor in possession of a weapon which he'll get a plea deal on as a minor and it will be wiped off his record the day he walks out of court.
He was justified in all 3 shootings.
1st degree murder is a pretty serious thing.
he might not get life in prison. But he will get some years.
Of what
Of 1st degree. I guess we just have to wait and see.
Not if he was being attacked and forced to defend himself
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Here's how I see it:
He never should have been in Kenosha and he never should have been in possession of a firearm while there. He was underage and regardless of his intentions of protecting businesses/vigilantism, he was breaking the law by being there with a rifle and underage. A class A misdemeanor. What is evidenced is that he was attacked on multiple occasions and acted in self defense. The homicide charges will not stick and the rule of "Felony Murder" does not apply.
He will only be charged with a Class A misdemeanor at the most.
Seeing as how rioters, arsonists, assaulters and vandals are not even being booked and before being let free, this will be an interesting case to follow.
His shooting was INCREDIBLE. He was surrounded by a whole crowd of people rushing at him and he ONLY shot the ones who actually attacked him, he actually got knocked over onto his back and had a guy tangled up with him, CLEARED A JAM from that position, and sat up to shoot the final attacker right in the arm.
I'll tell you what else, the news media isn't reporting on this but it's a fact, just make of it what you will: he shot the pedophile in the dick. He shot the wifebeater and rapist in the heart. And he shot the burglar in the arm.
It's like Jesus really was guiding his bullets. Crazy shit, man. "Be sure your sin will find you out."
Those who started arsons should get the death penalty, for sedition and insurrection. Kyle should be allowed to go home, and lead a normal life. Get adults to do their jobs, and arrest the mayors / governors / what-have-you that are issuing stand down orders! Charge them with sedition, convict, and execute immediately!
If it weren't for Evers trying to virtue signal over the exosome, then there wouldn't be a million pedophiles running loose and attacking kids at riots. Wisconsin's governor needs to be held accountable.
The Left has successfully followed the "How to" hand book of Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi propaganda minister. We, as a country, have been seeing the results of their efforts for the past 4 to 6 years. The Left have instilled a cult like loyalty in their followers. Any criticism of their agenda is obviously a false and must be silenced as quickly as possible.
Protesters would NEVER attack anyone. When some are killed it was obviously murder, despite whatever witnesses, video, and forensics may reveal.
To those of us indoctrinated, we see businesses burning and people getting attacked. When that happens next is only natural. People start to resist by protect their businesses and their lives.
In the case of Kyle Rittenhouse, he was attacked and used his weapon to defend his life. He will very likely will be "No Billed" by a Grand Jury.
Same issues as with the George Floyd video.
1. Whole video wasn't shown up front
2. Many are rushing to conclusions
I need to see the whole video.
Were they bothering him?
Were they on his property?
Or was he just trying to play vigilante? (which he should not be doing because it isn't his job)
This could have been prevented. People are increasingly paranoid that any protest will lead to a riot and there has been property damaged and at risk of damage. That being said, I can only say he is fully justified if in fact the property he was on was in fact in danger. Also, he likely isn't even the direct property owner, so if anything, his parents should have handled it, not him.
They chased him, threatenend jim, threw bottles and bricks at him, he just ran away. Then after someone in the crowd fired a shot, he had to fear for his life and had every right to defend himself.
Those rioters grew up in a world, where they never had to experience any consequences for their actions. I assume, they were really surprised, that threatening the life of an armed person could end bad for them.
@007kingifrit Wrong, as always:
"As Rittenhouse ran across a parking lot, Rosenbaum followed him and threw an object, according to videos reviewed by investigators. āThe object does not hit [Rittenhouse] and a second video shows, based on where the object landed, that it was a plastic bag,ā the complaint says. āRosenbaum appears to be unarmed for the duration of this video.ā
Moments later, videos captured a loud bang and a male shouting, āFuck you!ā Another four shots were heard and Rosenbaum was seen falling to the ground.
McGinniss told investigators that he didnāt hear the pair exchange any words but he saw Rosenbaum, who was unarmed, trying to grab Rittenhouseās gun when he was shot. Rosenbaum died from multiple gunshots that hit his right groin, left hand, left thigh, and back, perforating his right lung and liver, according to the Milwaukee Medical Examinerās Office.
As Rittenhouse ran away, he made a phone call and could be heard saying, āI just killed somebody,ā the complaint says. Detectives later spoke to Dominic Black, a friend of Rittenhouse, who confirmed he was on the other end of the call. "
@007kingifrit You know what, yes, I can. Do you think I made all that up, or something? Like you made up the dozen dead LEOs that don't have any names and nobody missed?
www.thedailybeast.com/teen-vigilante-kyle-rittenhouse-killed-unarmed-kenosha-protester-who-threw-plastic-bag-at-him-court-docs-say
@007kingifrit You are crazy. They are your links. They show 700 injured officers (700 < 1000), and exactly one officer murdered by a right-winger.
@goaded you have no evidence of "right winger" you just keep saying this. communists always lie
and there has been a 28% increase in murder of police this year abcnews.go.com/.../story?id=71773405
to say nothing for the dozens killed by rioters who are civilians
@007kingifrit Do you even know what you're doing? (The 28% increase is 7 people, and none of them were killed by protesters.) There haven't been "dozens killed by rioters", that's just your fevered imagination.
Yes. Regardless of what unfolded, he was looking for a confrontation. He brought a gun he knew he wasn't supposed to have to a crowd of people who, for good reason, are upset and frankly afraid of white people with guns, and was hoping for them to give him a reason to shoot them. Even if he didn't shoot first, even if he didn't attack, he was looking for a reason to shoot them, which is actually legally a good enough reason to be convicted of murder.
How can he be looking for a reason to shoot someone when he is running away from the danger as they chase after him? Makes no sense.
there is no evidence he was "looking for a controntation, the gun was legally carried as it was loaned to him by an older wisconsin resident
your entire post assumes his motives. you can't do that
for example I have a C&R license that lets me sell a gun to anyone i want even if they don't have a permit if they are in the same state as me. there are thousands of very obscure complex gun laws and they all swing in the favor of the gun owner
Nope. Self defense. He was about to be attacked and being attacked when he shot. If he was there to kill someone he would have shot the person who pepper sprayed him early in the night and after that incident, on film he specially said he didnāt fight back because their attack couldnāt have been lethal.
Nope. Everything he did was in self defense. I saw the entire video. I also donated to his defense fund.
If anything, he could be charged with illegal possession of a firearm.
He should be charged, and a jury can decide whether he's guilty. There might be a self-defence justification for the shootings, but I see no reason why he should not get the maximum possible sentence for illegal possession of a firearm. If he hadn't been carrying it, those two people wouldn't have died.
if he hadn't been carrying HE would have been dead. besides they were pedophiles and communists they can't be "killed" per say since they aren't people
@007kingifrit You're disgusting, and if he hadn't been carrying, he wouldn't have been there in the first place.
but if he hadn't been carrying communists would destroy his property, his family's livelihood, and our country
@007kingifrit You're still lying about him being there to protect "his family's" business? Is that another of his QAnon supporting lawyer's lies?
He was being chased by a mob. If he didn't shot they would of taken his AR from him and used it on him. This was self defense, he was in fear for his life. He even rendered aid after and when he that he needs medical he ran to the police to turn himself in and have medical called so they could respond.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8q6ogfA/
Considering this is the same D. A. that is still working to sentence a 15 year old girl to prison for killing her pimp in self defense, yes he absolutely should go to prison forever.
From what I saw he defended himself the real question. Is where the hell was his back up and why the hell did someone let their 17 year old son go out in the middle of that shit
Nope. Justifiable homicide to defend oneself is just that - justifiable.
what a fucking crazy video
looks like real life GTA V
For real lol. I don't feel bad Kyle shot those bastards though. To me those guys are straight evil and trouble makers.
i think police should do better control of situation
you cannot expect people to not hurt each other in riots
No he should not. But if he doesn't they're going to burn down some cities yelling For Justice it's almost mob rule at this point.
then we will have to answer in kind. there must be blood to return to peace
No.
Free free to charge him for carrying a gun and running across statelines but not murder. Completely self-defence.
we learned about a week ago that he didn't cross state lines with the gun. the gun was loaned to him by a friend
this also means that since he was endorsed by someone over 21 it isn't illegal to carry the gun
Better kill than be killed. Right?
In any case, that's self defense and how it's supposed to be dealt with.
It's a tough time right now... There are a lot of tough calls the police has to make... But everyone should be treated fairly in the process. As fair as possible
Give him the keys to the city. A brave courageous young man, took out three communists, imagine what would happen if we let out the thoroughbreds.
I would say no, but let us wait for the investigations to be finished.
Then see if he can get a fair and impartial trial?
Of course he should be charged with double homicide. No matter what television show he grew up with. He drove all the way from Illinois to find some people to kill and he found them
He lived 20 minutes away. He worked there and was asked to come defend the business. He was cleaning graffiti, he had a med-kit and was going around trying to help people. Your narrative is nonsense.
No, even though you disagree about Jacob Blake, I have to agree Kyle Rittenhouse is innocent. You kind of threw me for loop with this one, you're not trolling are you? If not, I have to give you respect for being more independent than liberal.
No, I'm not trolling. Can't you see the dude was being attacked by a mob?
+1 šš
they attacked him, they fired first. its a clear cut example of self defence
Thank God. I saw your title and thought you were going to penis this case up too. Very glad to see you on the right side of the issue
I have a good sense and judgment of justice. Its easy to tell when something is justifiable and when its not.
You just have to be fair and cut everything 100% directly down the middle without a fraction of an inch to the right nor left. Be fair.
He should be given the same rights and consideration that a policeman would in the same circumstances.
He's still a kid, , he cannot be tried , for murder. But I think he will go away for a very long time...
He shot unarmed people. That at least justifies a charge. If I approach you with a gun and say "Come at me, bro." do you think I am justified in shooting you?
Kyle got hit already and jumped by the mob in a earlier scene. A mob of angry people hitting on you can cause severe injury or death. Kyle was in the right to blast those losers.
@Jackblue I may have been misinformed about events, hence I've anonymized my comment which should probably be treated as apocryphal. Sorry for confusion.
Yes. He should be charged as an adult and put away for a long time! Thatās the law
its not the law at all, he broke no laws and engaged in self defence
If he doesn't I can only imagine how many people will go to a riot infested area just to let off some steam
then we'll arrest and shoot them also
he may have right to defend, or not charged with anything, but 17 yo go to that place with a gun kind of violen to me, who know what kind of rage he will throw out later in life?
Within self-defence. They run at him, seeing that he clearly has a gun. The last dude even has a pistol in his hand as he approaches him.
Nope. He defended himself from attackers.
@msc545 just saying. Thats why those guns are banned here in thd UK and the rest of Europe because a guy who wants to commit mass murder could should 30 people in 10 seconds without fear of being apprehended, then he could be carrying as many as 10 magazines of 30 which means 300 shots. You Americans need to sort yourselves out.
@joeblow123 The objective evidence is that he shot one person, others chased him because of that, and he shot two more.
@msc545
"The objective evidence is that he shot one person, others chased him because of that, and he shot two more."
As far as we know. A sure way to know for sure it was self-defense on Kyle's part is when the mainstream media (excluding Fox and other conservative media) drop it like a hot potato and act like it never happened.
@joeblow123 That is not evidence.
@msc545
It's not evidence that is admissible in a court of law within the jurisdiction of the United States Of America and its territories. However, it is evidence in the court of public opinion that the facts of the case reveal that the narrative would not benefit the leftist powers that be so they dropped it altogether. That in itself is worthy of an investigation by a reporter with clean hands.
@joeblow123 The "court of public opinion" is a synonym for a lynch mob. We don't do that here.
He should just claim to be a woman and then she will get off scot free.
No. He should defend. If he used unnecessary force, then yes.
Agreed. We are on the same page for once.
I will see what the court has to say.
he ran from a previous murder.
stop watching the propaganda on fox, here's the REAL story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIVeHOt903I
Pervious to him shooting the 1st guy he was already threatened and physically attacked by the mob.
according to?
Fastward to 5:40 to hear the witness testimony and see the video of what happened to the 1st guy and why Kyle smoked him.
https://youtu.be/NSU9ZvnudFE
one guy who was likely part of or at least, supports the militia i also saw that he was wearing cloves to hide his finger prints. guess what? i've heard of some crazy who said they saw some guy who had something that look like a remote control device to make one person kill another. besides, if we wanna look at it this way-can't we say that the person who ''supposedly'' move against the guy with a gun and gloves was either afraid for himself-or, his community-making the other guy the hero? this is enough to convince those who consume nothing but propaganda-but not enough for somebody else.
then you are no christian. and these same people will have no issue murdering you.
Man. Whatever. Kyle was clearly running from the 1st dude til he got too close to Kyle being the aggressor then Kyle smoked him as he should.
he was running from a murder.
The pedo and the skaterboard guy are seen taunting and threatening Kyle after he and the others who were protecting businesses had put out a fire in a dumpster which was being pushed into a gas station.
Later, someone tries to take Kyle's gun and he *runs*.
The pedo chases him, then someone fires a shot.
Kyle reacts, turns around to see the pedo lunging toward his firearm and fires *4* times.
The pedo is later found to supposed have *5* bullet wounds.
Kyle stops and makes a call -- presumably 911. He stands around for a moment then begins to run when he starts realizing that the mob is going to turn on him.
The cops are about 200m away and Kyle gets exhausted halfway there.
People from the crowd start charging in a delivering sucker punches. Kyle falls down, get kicked in the head, skater guy comes over and attacks, Kyle shoots him in the heart.
The guy with a handgun comes over raises his hands when Kyle point the rifle at him. Kyle doesn't initially fire. The guy brings the handgun around to point it at Kyle and only then does Kyle shoot his bicep.
Kyle gets up, the mob leaves him be and he heads over to the police line.
Completely self-defense.
TYT is obviously full of shit.
Watch all the footage yourself and get a grasp of the timeline, don't listen to those hacks.
@AllThatSweetJazz non of that is backed by evidence.
... Except for the footage, testimony, and medical reports. So actually it's backed up by plenty of evidence. Did the propagandists tell you that there's no evidence?
@AllThatSweetJazz it's interesting that you bring up the medical reports. how do you explain this: ''autopsy of āKyle Rittenhouseās first victimā Joseph Rosenbaum determined Rosenbaum āwas shot in the back multiple timesā; ergo, āRittenhouse did not act in self-defense.ā Milwaukeeās Medical Examiner in fact determined Rosenbaum was shot once in the back, and sustained several additional wounds. Rittenhouseās lawyer has telegraphed an intent to claim the teen was acting in self-defense during the incident; the location of the victimsā wounds was only one of a number of possible elements to a self-defense claim.'' . you expect me to believe that Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum in the back in self-defense?
It's a possibility, you can fall down or spin as you get shot. Also you can literally just watch the video and see the guy going at Kyle when he gets shot. So that part is plainly self-defense.
But no, my real point was how did Rosenbaum get 5 wounds if Kyle only shot 4 times?
Dude, the TYT video AND your video despite being used to support opposite narratives are basically the same footage which is not enough. There needs to be WAY more showing of what happened before solid judgements are made. I find it troublesome too that this is all caused by a bunch of 20 somethings or younger. I support the right to protest, but obviously, it's not actually convincing anyone of anything, just solidifying two extreme sides. So I would stop with it or at least be more careful. These militia groups are out there, are paranoid af , and as shown WILL kill if they feel like it. Not worth it. These people on all sides are way to young and divided to be interacting with each other unless just for flat out talking.
@errorgoodnameunfound Has a militia member killed anyone?
@AllThatSweetJazz I don't know but it's likely given what's happen in the past couple years. But "militia" is similar to military, which is meant to defend and kill if necessary. I prefer the video @Hispanic-Cool-Guy posted here much more than the initial one. Seems a bit more balanced. But I am not going to solidify any stance because I was not there on top of the fact that it's very hard to find a solidly balanced telling of these kinds of events. People are too quick to either have a bias or claim the other side does and it takes so much damn energy to be so obsessed with it it''s ridiculous.
@errorgoodnameunfound So actually it hasn't happened as far as I can recall. That's important because it means it's not actually a problem and it would be incorrect to say they've shown that they "WILL kill if they feel like it". Militia can be there all day and night, if they' not killing anyone then they're objectively superior to the rioters. What should be happening is the police need to stomp out the riots so militia don't feel the need to be on the scene -- and if the cops won't take action then maybe militia are necessary.
@AllThatSweetJazz
-Militia: A MILITARY force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.
Military defend and kill to do so.
Cops do need to do their job. But a militia as in the definition, is supposed to be in emergencies. The whole EVERYONE IS RIOTING shit is over hyped on purpose to divide. Businesses have to defend themselves as yes, robberies and such happen, that is what insurance and security cameras are for.
In the end, nobody won. 2-4 people died and now Kyle is in jail knowing he killed people and that will follow him and his family for life. Doesn't matter if people across the country "support him" his reputation is near burned, whether he is innocent or not. Which "innocent" is a broad term, because EVERYONE was breaking law, being out beyond curfew.
@errorgoodnameunfound It doesn't matter what you think a militia means. It matters what actions they actually take. Anyone can just call themselves a militia.
"The whole EVERYONE IS RIOTING shit is over hyped on purpose to divide."
How so? The left downplays it constantly. Everyday it's "peaceful protest" as shit is being burned down. Is rioting a problem? Because if it is then people need to talk about about and deal with it. Over 3 months of ongoing riots is not some small scuffle. I don't see how people being terrorized, attacked, and even killed is something to be divided over unless they're trying to downplay the violence because it makes the left look bad.
Insurance doesn't magically cover everything. Getting 25k worth of rubble removal doesn't fix things when the cleanup bill is 100k. An obviously better outcome is to simply not have your livelihood destroyed on the whims of psychos.
Yes, nobody won. That's the problem with violence. But someone is to blame, and that's BLM as an ideology. If there were no rioters then none of that would have happened.
2 people died. Saying 2-4 acts like there's uncertainty here. We know who got shot.
He won't go to jail, it's obviously bullshit. They threw up a 1st degree murder charge. It's a bogus charge to satiate the mob. When they aim too high they make it harder to convict.
Yes, he'll have to live with that. Even self-defense comes with a cost, no one wants that to stick with them. Now if only we didn't have rioters and riot supporters fermenting this atmosphere which leads to people ending up in Kyle's situation and being forced to do this.
@AllThatSweetJazz Either I got lied to, or Kyle was part of a militia himself. Now, it was a militia apparently trying to give medical aid and such, but still it was an armed militia. Don't downplay that part, because like it or not, it does in fact make militias look bad. Whether the bad rep is deserved or not doesn't matter, people will think as they will.
Kyle could be completely innocent on the shootings, but that doesn't matter because he broke curfew and he is 17 carrying a gun which state law says is illegal. The protestors also were breaking curfew and causing a scene as well.
I don't really trust ANYTHING I have heard about this stuff. Nothing. Way too much info being thrown around on all sides with all sorts of biases. I actually want to be more for the businesses and such that get damaged, but EVERYONE is WAY to pro or anti BLM which for people trying to look at it fair and neutrally is hard af.
Whatever happened also to DIALOGUE?
Hell, I even made a comment that A LOT of people here defending Kyle also said the George Floyd video wasn't long enough/not enough info. They weren't wrong, but what about this one? The videos presented are so cut up and even lawyers say that it's low quality and hard to hear/see, so going SO far as to solidly be on one side is ridiculous. Being steady and center isn't hard.
That comment ofc got NO attention, yet it's like the most neutral one. Says a lot*
found this: www.wftv.com/.../ according to this reporting-rittenhouse was already threatening people.
@errorgoodnameunfound Kyle was confirmed to not be a part of a militia iirc.
What happened to dialogue was rioters. It takes two to have a dialogue, and so it only takes one to ruin that dialogue. BLM ruined it. Sometimes conversations happen, but they will defend the riots -- confirming everything bad about them. Irreconcilable differences can exist unfortunately.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy
Is there any video to back your claim? I'm in full agreement with you but I want to gather objective evidence that backs Kyle's claim. I have a lot of "what if's" and other subjective factors that may or may not apply but I want to keep it objective. Too often people act on false information and we end up with chaos in the streets. It's time to end that. That is why I want to promote the responsible use of social media when it comes to news stories like these.
@Sabretooth
The Young Jerks. The Young Jerks are your source? Let me guess. You went with The Young Jerks because The Onion was down for site maintenance.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy
Nevermind. I saw the video you posted.
Nope. Self defense.
Self-defense or at the least reasonable doubt
no! he's innocent
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