Long story short: I am in a discord group where you can seek emotional support. A black women came in saying she needed support and then said she was sad because her boyfriend left her for a white girl. I said "why is her race important?" That doesn't matter and she got extremely rude to me saying I couldn't offer advice because I was white. Then I sent a DM to an admin and said she was being racist towards me and he said "you can't be racist towards white people." Then she was just so mean to me. I introduced myself to the group and everything then she told me to change Careers for no reason. That's like my dream and I started to cry.
I am "Taylor000" by the way.
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ofc you can be racist to white people, racism goes in all directions. anyone who disagrees is a fucking retard
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She has some serious issues with race and wants to be a victim. It's best to move on and ignore her
Of course you can be racist towards white people. You can be racist towards any race. Saying you can't be racist towards a race is racist in itself.
I used to be a mod and admin for a few different debate forums in the 2000s, you know, back when forums were cool... (They never were)
Anyways, one thing you need to keep in mind is just because someone is a mod or admin for a community, that doesn't make them experts on jack sh*t, and they're not perfect. They can be just as ignorant and pig headed as anybody else. They're only there to enforce rules and if they're going to twist the rules based on their own interpretations and use ill judgement when enforcing, that reflects on the community as a whole. How they act and what they get away with is generally how the rest of the community will follow, since they know what they can get away with.
You're only solution is to leave and find a better community with more level headed admin/mods... Or if there's one head hancho who owns/runs the community who assigns these admins, you can address this situation that this admin's conduct directly. I wouldn't expect much to come from it though.
Regardless, whether you're a member of the community or a nameless guest, you have no say or rights in internet communities other than what the overseers dictate, which they can take away at any time, just because. Internet forums, communities, heck, even this place, is not a democracy or a real society with legit rules or regulations or rights. You need to approach these places like dictatorships. While communities online can be helpful and have advantages and good things, don't get too invested in them or the people. You're always going to come across asshats, trolls and even messed up admins with their own prejudices.
A good community is one that enforces the rules correctly and fairly. That's what keeps them popular and alive. Bad ones have all the good people leave and all the jerks remain... Terrible ones have everyone leave and the community dies. Good communities that enforce rules correctly may have a few leave in protest and complain about their so called freedom of speech being crushed, but those are usually the trolls and asshats... And again, "Dictatorship" you don't have freedom of speech. Only the illusion of freedoms the admins give you.
I would just block her and anyone else like that, or find a better community.
Also note that there's usually no test or real vetting process to be an admin for an Online community. The owner usually decides who is. These people are usually not professionals, unless it's some official community for a big company like Microsoft or Bethesda / EA.
Get out of that group. I've never seen so much toxicity in just a few screenshots. The fact an admin said that shows you how toxic, irrational and close-minded that group is. And to answer your question, YES it is racist if you're racist towards white people. It's still a race. Yes, white people over the centuries were the culprits in many ways, and are still to a certain degree, but to say you can't be racist towards a white person, especially if that person did nothing wrong is absurd.
That black girl is overly sensitive now. And you shouldn't forget that the black community finds assurance in claimin victimhood because of white people. Therefore it hit her harder that her boyfriend (a low-life thug with no prospects from the looks of it) has left her for someone white instead of another black girl. She came to that group to seek validation and assurance through bashing white girls/people. Since she is suffering from an inferiority complex. So she isn't there to seek genuine emotional support.
Your question was valid. Objectively, there is no reason for her to mention race. Only she speaks from an extremely irrational, emotional & damaged point of view. And since you want to be a psychiatrist, you have to teach yourself not to get affected from crap people throw at you. You know how many people tried talking me out of fighter pilot training, saying I'm "not fit for the job", "it's not meant to be" or whatever crap. Guess who is flying F-35s in a couple of years. Yeah, did their words hold any meaning? Are they still relevant? You tell me. So why should an overly emotional, damaged & racist girl's words affect you in that way? You want to be a psychiatrist, no one said you can't become one. In any way, I'm glad her low-life boyfriend dumped her ass. Sounds like she deserves it.
1. Yes, you can be racist against any race 2. Feeling inferior to her ex's new partner is stupid, even more if she does it because of race. That means she has a quite disturbing low self-esteem. 3. Someone validating her irrational way to think can't be healthy. 4. The dude saying no one can't be racist against white people probably wasn't the smarter in class.
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5. You can't help someone that doesn't want your help. If they reject you once, stop it. Don't try to convince them to let them help you. 6. She never mentions explicitly she doesn't want your help because you're white. Therefore, it seems more like she's rejecting you because you are not saying what she wants to hear. Some people don't want help, just blind support, even if that's not the best. 7. A random stranger's subjective opinion shouldn't make you cry. Especially considering that girl seemed emotionally unstable due to beign dump by her boyfriend. 8. If you truly like psychology and psychiatry you should tough up. People with psychological problems can be really rude sometimes, because they can't control emotion and tend to act irrationally. You have to be able to deal with these people without crying the moment they insult you, reject you or doubt you.
For context, since this comes up a lot, the theory or idea behind "you can't be racist to a white person" is explicitly referring to racism as being systemic. By that, they mean no matter how often you're bigoted or prejudiced toward a white person, you can't disenfranchise them with those actions. By the end of your tirade, they'll still be the majority population, hold majority representation in your government, in business, and most industries, and still hold majority sway in decisions revolving around vote and say.
But even by that coin, a black person can still 100% have bias, prejudice, and even be actively discriminatory towards a white person, which she's 100% being. She had a negative experience, defused the fault from her ex to the other person (as couples VERY often do), and then defused the fault to the entire race in anger. People just don't really like that version because it means admitting black people can experience things whites can't, which... is kinda the entire end point of acknowledging racism (read: specifically in the USA) in the first place.
Realizing all of that depth doesn't even TOUCH the inter-community issues of black men downing black women as inferior to whites because they want a better chance at being integrated into white society themselves.
yes. how to navigate out of these messes... because they are messes.
Focus on saying loving and supporting things, rather than correction of thinking at that time. Ask questions that probe. exmaple.
I'm sorry to hear this, you are worth more than that. "what does her being white mean to you"?
that probs undestanding. when someone is hurt... they have hard time processing challenges like that and this girl shows inflexibility at that time. the moderators and such are wrong and that needs corrected. anyone can be "ist". we all use as simple of information as we can to draw conclusions... race is one, sex another, boob size, hair color, etc.. you name it... Its shallow thinking but it is easiest to do when under stress for survival is #1.
make sense. once the emotional problem is dealt with can help others see past or around their assumptions. I ran into this same thing this week when I helped a black/mixed race guy, im white, and he made a comment about racist cops. white people do the same, and other cultures, etc.. it's hard work to think and see the bigger picture of truths.
To answer your first question, yes. Racism occurs in every race.
Please also understand the differences between racism, discrimination, stereotypical, prejudice etc. They may seem similar but they are different.
For your second question, is Layla being racist towards you? Not really. She just doesn't like you at all and don't want to hear what you have to say. When Layla mentioned her boyfriend left her for a white girl, don't you think that it is a possibility that her boyfriend choose the other girl just because she is white? You just assume Layla is prejudiced against white people because she mentioned "white". Of course, Layla is going to be offended, she thinks you just want to protect your race instead of offering friendly advice.
Forgive me for being blunt but I feel you are just trying to gain acceptance in the group more than you want to offer advice. Are you a very meek and soft-natured person, the type that gets bullied easily? You tried too hard and polite to be friends.
If I were you, I couldn't care less what Layla thinks of me. I will not ask her whether if I can offer advice. I will just do it. And if she is mean towards me, I will laugh it off. You crying just because she told you to change careers is puzzling, like why are even crying over so unimportant stuff? And you also don't seem right in the mind when you report Layla to an admin over nothing.
Anyone who thinks you can't be racist to white people is a fucking moron. You can be racist to anyone.
That girl didn't technically say/admit that it's because you're white, so the admin was actually correct about that. The girl was still a complete bitch, though. Who the hell says "good" because she made you cry, when you were only trying to help? Fuck her.
The admin was also wrong about not being able to be racist to whites. And that other girl saying "race is important to some people?" Yeah; it's important to racists. Other people literally don't care about it.
She's an idiot, the admin is a piece of sh*t, and Discord is trash. (You DO know Discord is used as a hub for pedos, right? I'm not even joking.)
Yes, ANYONE can be racist to ANY race, including their own.
But I'll never understand the a**holes who come into a group online, uninvited, and then think they should start running sh*t and should tell the people who were there first what they can and can't do.
I used to have an active YouTube channel before YouTube went to utter sh*t back in early 2014, and I used to get commentators all the time telling me to do these videos and play this game, and whatnot. The point is, the group was there to offer support, and if she was going to be an ungrateful cunt, then she should've taken her black-ass somewhere else. (I'm black, before anyone whines.)
I also just noticed the admin's name and his handle says "This is the very beginning of your legendary conversation with Ooga Booga." His sounds like the biggest dips*t ever. Like, male-feminist, Milhouse Van Houten levels of soy on this skinny-armed bitch. I could feel the pretentious open-toed-sandal douchebaggery of this guaranteed cuckold from here, and all I did was look at one screencap.
Okay. I don't think she's being racist towards you. I think that because you're not agreeing with her on everything, she's mad at you. With that being said, she is being racist towards her ex's partner. There's no reason she should be bitter for the guy moving on. There's no reason why she should be mad at the girl for being with her ex. She honestly sounds like a bitch. And that dumbass ooga booga dude is wrong. I've been the victim of racism because my skin is white (even though my heritage is mixed). My dad was the victim of racism when he lived in a more "ghetto"-like area. It sucks. Racism is racism. Hope this helps.
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No, that's like saying "water can't be wet" Of course this does not mean you can abuse White people and treat us like dirt.
Regarding your post, you don't seem to understand her problems and what she was upset about. She snapped at you and you were too sensitive. It seems this is your first rodeo in such matters and you should not step up again, at least until you have more experience dealing with people and their problems. She felt like "less" of a person because her man left her for a very different type of woman, in her eyes.
Yes, you can be racist towards any race. If you are judging anyone based on outward appearance and not on merit, that is racism. It's like the white girl who will only date black men. They are basing there choice on their appearance and not on personality, ethics or value. Oh, and by the way... I have been attacked because of the color of my skin. A favorite phrase among the indigenous people in my area is, "You stole our land." I'm second generation European. By the time my family got here, there wasn't much left to take that wasn't already taken by the already rich. Yes, you can be racist towards anyone, not that you should. One more thing I'd like to address.. white privilege. What is it and how do I get some?
I don't necessarily think it was racist of her to not want your advice, I think it's more about how you called her out for mentioning the girl was white when the her main point is how the guy made her feel like because she was white, he was better than her (a black women) so she didn't like that response you gave cause it undermined her feelings, hence she didn't want your advice which is understandable.
That was just immature of her to say change careers. Please don't waste your tears on petty shit like this lmao, you'll look back and realise how silly it all is
Yes and sorry for your horrible experience that layla was simply a bitch. And ooga booga was an idiot. And sad to see the other didn't stick up for you who was clearly the one not in the wrong and layla was been rude to. Honestly that's why i hate support groups, it feels so shit when no one see's that your hurt by something that someone else clearly was doing to just make you feel bad. Which happens a lot. Making places such as support groups toxic, try and find another one if you can. The one i am currently in for depression isn't bad but eh not that popular. But one of the mods stuck up for me when someone was clearly been rude to me by saying "Your a teen what could you know". Always got to find good mods. Then another well i got to know the mod well and basically she just knows me and that if anything like this it wouldn't be my fault most likely.
I feel sorry for you. I know people can be discriminate against white people too. You know when white people supported equality for blacks they got called names, beaten by cops and so on in U. S. but I don't see them getting nearly the same recognition as black leaders of the movement. Back to the matter at hand, no don't change careers over this, some people are just poison. Don't listen to them. You will meet many people like that in your life. I do have to say that when it comes to selection of beautiful girls white beauty standard actually exists in my country and many countries. There is no blackening cream, there is a whitening cream. And if you are a white person then you get preferential treatment here over the locals too.
That absolutely is not a white person's fault but the person giving them preferential treatment is at fault
The term "racism" does not specify the race of the holder or the person discriminated against. So, of course one can be racist toward white people. When I drill down on people's rationales for saying otherwise, it comes down to thinking they are justified in racism towards whites. That's a different question, and not one I think is at all justified.
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You can be racist to any race doesn't matter white or black. I am not saying you're at fault but the reason why she said that is because of the stigma about how everyone wants white girls. Her case is a common case you see happening nowadays. You can read many questions here how people say black is the least preferred race for women. She was at fault too for lashing at you. But you can't say race didn't play a role here
Racism is discrimination on the basis of race. Setting one racial group (say, white people) aside from all the others, to extent that you say racism against them is impossible, is textbook racism.
This is the kind of nonsense you hear from people who didn't get into enough arguments when they were kids and don't understand how logic works. "Racist" today is what "Communist" was in the '50's: a way to shut people down without even having to hear them out.
I have heard this TOTAL NONSENSE from many people, that somehow think that being "Racist" doesn't apply, if the person is white!! FUCK YOU!! That is the DEFINITION of RACISM!!! Singling out one group, based on their skin color!! HOW IS IT NOT RACISIT? WHY is it different?
Racism works all ways. Of course you can be racist towards white people. Rather worrying a moderator would have that veiw point. But i think they are right to reject your claim of racism here. They object to your comment and don't want to here from you as an individual. They don't ever say they won't talk to you cause of your race.
You can be racist toward anybody BUT Layla was not being racist toward you. She was justifiably upset because you were refusing to recognize her feelings as valid (not a good thing for a future psychiatrist).
It's not lack of recognition of feelings. It's questioning and/or criticizing them. I've heard this "invalidating my feelings" thing before and find it completely ridiculous tbh. How exactly are you supposed to ask about the relevance of race in the matter? And if it isn't actually relevant, what exactly do you expect her to do?
That's generally not how it really works though. He's the one that went after the other girl. And if it wasn't relevant for him then she can't really say that it was on his behalf.
Also, I think her point is that it doesn't make any sense to treat relevant in the situation. Would she have thought differently if the girl was black? If so, then in what way? And if not, then race isn't actually relevant to her either but she's likely making it as if it is.
What exactly did I assume away lmao. My point was she was suggesting an objective truth with her question: that race is irrelevant. And again, what exactly does it mean to "invalidate feelings", and how exactly has she done that. Criticizing someone's judgement of a situation isn't "invalidating" anything. It's a criticism.
@Madmegalomaniac if I’m from an oppressed group and I feel that race is relevant to my particular situation, then it is almost certainly is. You can’t just assume from your own experience that something is irrelevant when to the person it happened to it’s very relevant. You have to put yourself in her shoes. And yes, criticism that’s given carelessly or hurtfully can most defo invalidate someone’s feelings.
Megalomania is very close to delusional insanity 😊
@Gwenhwyfar It's not about assuming form anyone's experience. If he was going to cheat regardless of race, then you can almost definitely be certain it isn't relevant. She doesn't have any reason to believe race is relevant.
Being from an "oppressed group" myself, not all expressed opinions and feelings are actually justified. I can be afraid of black ants, but that doesn't mean my fears are justified.
Regardless to say, her being "oppressed" has very little relevance to the context of this situation.
She suggestive something objective and did so politely. If the truth offends people, doesn't mean people should remain quiet about it. Sometimes, criticizing what someone feels is a perfectly sensible thing to do, regardless of whether it offends them.
Taylor don’t let anybody tell you something different. Always use ur own brain! Of course one can be racist towards white people. Why should this not be possible? This topic makes me very angry. But tbh I cannot see that she was racist towards you. She didn’t say something like: I don’t want to hear your answer cause you are white. nevertheless she is a bitch and the ooga booga even more.
Right? I had a black kid throw his shoe at my nuts and kick me in the back at school because he knew that the damn liberal teachers would not have my back if I defended myself. Definitely happens.
No, they pretty much always side with the pocs or the short person when a fight goes down. Was annoying as hell to have to have to take shit from some little punk that I could drop in one punch just to avoid being suspended.
How's it being paranoid? That little shit wouldn't have dared if he thought I could retaliate fairly.
Saying that you can't be racist against white people is a very left wing position and I disagree with it. Being a racist is a pattern of negative antisocial behaviour. If they moved to Africa, and removed themselves from Western power structures and behaved like that they'd still be racist, if whites treat them like that it's racist.
I refuse to be a scapegoat for some pinko nutjob, what next you want me to wear a gold star? Get fucked commies.
If you're being prejudice to any race; whether it's towards your own race or towards a race different from your own, you are by definition being racist. So yes, black people CAN be racist to white people. I've seen it done so many times in front of me by my own father. Racism isn't just blacks towards whites. It happens in all directions.
The reason why she didn't want your advice is because she wanted someone who says she is right and you already proved that you are not going to reinforce her believes. So she was not racist towards you - according to what you posted here - but she was ignorant in a different way.
They're just bullies, places online like Discord and Twitter are rife with this shit, just leave them in their little bubble and spend your time on people who don't despise you over your race. And you seem nice enough, so it pisses me off a bit that they'd openly mistreat you like that and then rub salt in the wounds 😡 but screw the lot of 'em, have a virtual hug on me instead. *hugs* ☺️
Of course you can. Judging people based upon race is racism. It has nothing to do with alleged power structures or anything else. If skin color/ethnicity causes an automatic negative reaction without even knowing anything else about the person, that is racism.
Any race can be racist to any other, the 'admin' was plain wrong I've worked in over 50 countries and see racism in just about every one some of the worst have been in the African states, but America for some reason seems to have a feather up its arse about it and what's coming out of the colleges & universities is only amplifying what's going on, but I have noticed that the democrats are twisting it to their own ends.
Yes you can be racist to white people. You can be racist to anybody. Just because black people are more oppressed doesn't mean it's not possible for racism to be directed toward other races. Layla IS racist and she's also a cunt. This ooga booga person is also a retard, just sad how they won't do anything about the obvious discrimination that was aimed toward you. I'd say just leave that shitty Discord server.
Of course it's possible and it happens all the time but we just keep going to work and sucking it up and taking it in stride because that's what we do. It's just hard to make us feel ashamed of our race. And im sure someone out there is triggered so I'm just going to go back to work. Sorry everybody. For everything. All of it.
Interesting how, according to these same Leftist morons, race is a Social Construct and doesn't exist! But still make a big deal out of someone being of another mythical race. Their deranged retardation and hypocrisy knows no bounds!
typical racists saying that. Whatever your colour or race, you CAN be racist to ANYONE, INCLUDING your own race! Its actually disguting. And please, chase your dream as much as you can. You already show an amazing attitude towards it.
I agree you can be racist towards white people but I don't think that particular girl was being racist towards you exactly she was just being mean and you were interpreting it as racism which I find to be rather silly haha.
Obviously you can... I just find it so funny that the masters of it are the same snowflakes so quick to cry about it.
My favorite is "Hey!! You called me out for my obvious racism!!! That means YOU are the real racist!! 😭😭😭😭😭😫 Only White people are allowed to be racist, resisting that is the real racism!!!"
You're on discord which is a cesspit for the worst of the surface level degenerates, you can be racist against anyone's race.
Although in this case you must have your own empathy, her ex boyfriend left her for someone of a different race (probably has nothing to do with it) so of course right now she'll not be in a very pro white woman mood
White people experience every bit as much racism, but it's okay because they are white. People say the most racist things to white people and think it's okay because they are white. Racism is racism.
That's pretty dumb. They have never been to China. They don't understand what racism mean. Go to China and knows what it means.
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No such thing as "racism". You can have preconceived opinions and assumptions about people with different shaded skin; different accents than yourself; different facial features than yourself... and so on. Also no such thing as antisemitism... with the same kind of factors.
if a black person, or even a white person, chooses the opposite race, simply because they're the opposite race. that's racism to its core. it's hard to prove it though because noone really ever says why they chose that person
Racist is just an overused word that doesn't mean anything. People have preferences; that's all. Calling someone racist for their preferences is no different than calling someone racists for choosing an orange over an apple.
Anyone who says you can't be racist toward ANY race is a bigoted piece of shit, just like the black women in this question.
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Yeah of course you can, if fact I think white people are getting racism a lot more now, people just assume we don’t get it because it used to be the minorities but now we are the minority
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