Why does modern society do EVERYTHING in its power to prop up women, even bad ones, but does literally nothing to help or support unhappy men? (Page 2)
Society does like emotional men. I listen to a lot of emo music and its mainly men singers. doesn't get more emotional than that lol. Plus there are tons of make writers and poets writing about emotional stuff. But men are mainly drawn to non emotional professions like engineering. But no one is shaming emotional men.
To many words in this... but their are many men support groups.. just most guys don’t go to them. This isn’t due to women it’s due to men and their inability to accept emotions as normal part of life.
"men and their inability to accept emotions as normal part of life".
The very last thing society allows is for men to show weakness or emotions. If men babbled on and cried like women, society would grind to a halt quickly. Women do not tolerate the slightest weakness in men and certainly do not tolerate a man who cries openly or otherwise shows self doubt.
Do you know how many women divorce their husbands when the husband is diagnosed with cancer? Tons. I have seen this first hand. Or of they do stay with their husband many women become very angry with their husbands for the sin of becoming terminally ill. What is worse is if the man ACTUALLY SURVIVES the cancer, women get EXTREMELY ANGRY as they are denied the attention cancer widows get.
So don't sit on your pedestal chastising men for not "accepting emotions" as you would never tolerate this in a man.
Men not accepting emotions? I wonder why? Maybe because from a very young age men get told not to cry and "be a man". I'm yet to see anyone care for a heartbroken man, while I see more than plenty for women. There is a reason why women get over heartbreaks much faster than men. Last time I checked suicide among men is much higher than suicide among women. Depression is higher among women, but yet we see men commit far more suicides. Are you telling me that all these men died because they didn't want to accept their emotions out of ego? Or perhaps they didn't get as much help and care as women do when it comes to suciide? 44 years old and yet extremely delusional. Unbelievable.
You're making an assumption that support groups are good for them. You're just going "why don't you just do this thing that works for me and my gender, and if it doesn't work then you're the problem". Men and women aren't the same, they don't have the same problems, or the same reactions to problem, and society doesn't react the same either. Solutions that apply to one do not necessarily apply to the other -- and likely don't.
In my experience men have virtually zero issue accepting emotions. None. That just you not understanding how they react to situations. That's why you think there's and issue with emotions. And that's just another aspect to the issues: women's narrative about men is the dominate narrative. Men having the more complicated issues means that the solutions to the easier problems get applied to the harder ones and call it a day when it doesn't work -- that's what the "go to a support group" advice is.
@AllThatSweetJazz I got news that she blocked Kraken. This is another typical snowflake who runs to the block button as soon as her claims get debunked
@TruthBringer@KrakenAttackin you guys are both so full of shit. You just want to whine. Plenty of emotional men are idolized in society. David Bowie, the cure, depeche mode, thousands of other musicians and writers. Writer's are very emotionally.
So it's just you that nobody likes, not emotional men
@Julietchicago Lmfao a few celebrities represent the majority of men now? If we are talking about shit, then be our guest and prove every point we said wrong. It's women like you who struggle with severe cognitive dissonance and don't want to acknowledge that society is treating men not the same as it's treating you.
And sweetie, as an Officer at the Air Force, I have embraced the burden of performance & responsibility and am one of the last people to fall into a victim mindset. Doesn't take away that I don't see what's happening around me and acknowledge I won't get the same treatment as the average woman does.
And nobody likes emotional men? Yeah, clearly you have 0 idea how dating for men works. There is a reason why women go for 'bad boys' and nice guys finish last. When a man opens up about his emotinos, women will find it sweet at first, but will soon get turned off as they will perceive it as a sign of weakness.
Either come back with a valid and intelligent response, or save yourself further embarassment and go back to your safe space. You've added nothing relevant to the topic.
I don't know how to answer this, but I feel for you. I'm just afraid that there will be misandrists on the opinion section where they will gaslight us claiming we're acting entitled. If you guys encounter these type of women, kindly report them.
@AllThatSweetJazz so you could be a serial killer and if we interpret it as a positive thing, you go free? Lol come on dude. Bad behavior is bad no matter how you interpret it
@Julietchicago I've lost count to how many times I've witnessed an ugly person get called "creep". You know how many girls shit talk other guys because they aren't attractive in my presence? Hell in my younger years, I was getting called the same. Because I wasn't attractive (until testosterone hit me). So no, it's not just about behavior
@Julietchicago Even though you're trying to take it to absurdity to be dismissive, the more apt version of your analogy would be someone being wrongly convicted -- which happens all the time. So no, you believing that there's no room for error is just being part of the problem and doubling down on it. There's even a word a word for it. Arrogance.
it can be relation people that you don. t want to date or find new love person that can treat you right and far and always be there for them talk to them see what with me stuff
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All women are on pedestals and being encouraged but women hate each other like nothing else.
I don’t think that’s true. I think some men make the choice not to seek help because see it as unmanly.
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I feel like men have more choices than women do. They can leave we get stuck with kids or whatever it’s not like we can dis own children that came from our bodies.
You can abort a child, even if the father wants it, and can force a father to pay child support by law, even if he doesn't want to be a father. How is that possibly "more choices for men?"
No we cannot abort a baby. The only time is acceptable is if it’s rape. And no ones forcing you to do child support. It all depends on the person you have The children with
@KrakenAttackin Again that’s all in a person that you choose to have a child with. Not all women are out to trap you. Some women like me well except having a child with someone and truly will tell you I will handle it I have family and support you don’t have to be here
@Anonymous There are so many women like that out here in the west, it's hard to distinguish the good from the bad. So to play safe, men must be less tolerable to red flags physically, emotionally and mentally. SO many men have had long marriages only to find themselves flabbergasted with an unfaithful or unsatisfied wife who will eventually divorce rape them. If groups like MGTOW are growing rapidly and marriage rates are dropping, then we must take a step back and see what's going on.
@TruthBringer But that’s all in the decisions y’all make. Not every woman is like that. Trust me there’s a guy I love almost crazy for we have raw sex if I had a child I probably would disappear because we’re not together I’m not forcing him into something. It’s my responsibility to if he chooses to be with the child that’s on him I’m not forcing him
@Anonymous. Pointing to exceptions to the rule doesn't disprove the rule itself. If the majority of women were like what you claim yourself to be, then these male groups wouldn't grow rapidly.
@TruthBringer but that’s the thing there are exceptions every single day. You have to find those people they’re not just going to pop up. And most of us are just at home and we still deal with the same person and crap because it’s familiar and we don’t want to take risk of meeting Guys that are just the same way. So we’re stuck
Meanwhile women have no problem destroying all groups, like the boy/girl scouts, and others. They can't just make their own, they have to destroy everything.
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It may not be the result or what is actually happening but it sure does feel like that and I honestly don't know why...
Society does like emotional men. I listen to a lot of emo music and its mainly men singers. doesn't get more emotional than that lol.
Plus there are tons of make writers and poets writing about emotional stuff.
But men are mainly drawn to non emotional professions like engineering. But no one is shaming emotional men.
@babygigi um sorry but i gotta ask is that actually u in profile pic?
@MarkyMark77 yes. Why?
@babygigi bc ur super cute
One word... Feminism
Feminists and the left feel like anything with a penis is simply evil and deserving of death..
Because when you are a man society views it as more convenient to step over your corpse than help you to your feet
To many words in this... but their are many men support groups.. just most guys don’t go to them. This isn’t due to women it’s due to men and their inability to accept emotions as normal part of life.
"men and their inability to accept emotions as normal part of life".
The very last thing society allows is for men to show weakness or emotions. If men babbled on and cried like women, society would grind to a halt quickly. Women do not tolerate the slightest weakness in men and certainly do not tolerate a man who cries openly or otherwise shows self doubt.
Do you know how many women divorce their husbands when the husband is diagnosed with cancer? Tons. I have seen this first hand. Or of they do stay with their husband many women become very angry with their husbands for the sin of becoming terminally ill. What is worse is if the man ACTUALLY SURVIVES the cancer, women get EXTREMELY ANGRY as they are denied the attention cancer widows get.
So don't sit on your pedestal chastising men for not "accepting emotions" as you would never tolerate this in a man.
Men not accepting emotions? I wonder why? Maybe because from a very young age men get told not to cry and "be a man". I'm yet to see anyone care for a heartbroken man, while I see more than plenty for women. There is a reason why women get over heartbreaks much faster than men. Last time I checked suicide among men is much higher than suicide among women. Depression is higher among women, but yet we see men commit far more suicides. Are you telling me that all these men died because they didn't want to accept their emotions out of ego? Or perhaps they didn't get as much help and care as women do when it comes to suciide? 44 years old and yet extremely delusional. Unbelievable.
You're making an assumption that support groups are good for them.
You're just going "why don't you just do this thing that works for me and my gender, and if it doesn't work then you're the problem". Men and women aren't the same, they don't have the same problems, or the same reactions to problem, and society doesn't react the same either. Solutions that apply to one do not necessarily apply to the other -- and likely don't.
In my experience men have virtually zero issue accepting emotions. None.
That just you not understanding how they react to situations. That's why you think there's and issue with emotions. And that's just another aspect to the issues: women's narrative about men is the dominate narrative. Men having the more complicated issues means that the solutions to the easier problems get applied to the harder ones and call it a day when it doesn't work -- that's what the "go to a support group" advice is.
@AllThatSweetJazz I got news that she blocked Kraken. This is another typical snowflake who runs to the block button as soon as her claims get debunked
@TruthBringer @KrakenAttackin you guys are both so full of shit. You just want to whine. Plenty of emotional men are idolized in society. David Bowie, the cure, depeche mode, thousands of other musicians and writers. Writer's are very emotionally.
So it's just you that nobody likes, not emotional men
@Julietchicago Because a handful of famous characters are representative of normal dudes...
@Julietchicago Lmfao a few celebrities represent the majority of men now? If we are talking about shit, then be our guest and prove every point we said wrong. It's women like you who struggle with severe cognitive dissonance and don't want to acknowledge that society is treating men not the same as it's treating you.
And sweetie, as an Officer at the Air Force, I have embraced the burden of performance & responsibility and am one of the last people to fall into a victim mindset. Doesn't take away that I don't see what's happening around me and acknowledge I won't get the same treatment as the average woman does.
And nobody likes emotional men? Yeah, clearly you have 0 idea how dating for men works. There is a reason why women go for 'bad boys' and nice guys finish last. When a man opens up about his emotinos, women will find it sweet at first, but will soon get turned off as they will perceive it as a sign of weakness.
Either come back with a valid and intelligent response, or save yourself further embarassment and go back to your safe space. You've added nothing relevant to the topic.
Well simply because nobody, including not only women but men themselves, cares about men
I don't know how to answer this, but I feel for you. I'm just afraid that there will be misandrists on the opinion section where they will gaslight us claiming we're acting entitled. If you guys encounter these type of women, kindly report them.
Because we live in a Gynocentric society. Plain and simple
Please, don't kill yourself.
Speak to a man who would understand your issue. And stay off social media.
I'm fine, LOL! But thank you for the concern.
People aren't called "incels, creeps, misogynists" just for being ugly. They're called those names because they engage in bad behavior
They get called those names regardless.
It doesn't matter what kind of behaviour they have. It only matters how women interpreted that behaviour.
@AllThatSweetJazz so you could be a serial killer and if we interpret it as a positive thing, you go free? Lol come on dude. Bad behavior is bad no matter how you interpret it
@Julietchicago I've lost count to how many times I've witnessed an ugly person get called "creep". You know how many girls shit talk other guys because they aren't attractive in my presence? Hell in my younger years, I was getting called the same. Because I wasn't attractive (until testosterone hit me). So no, it's not just about behavior
@Julietchicago Even though you're trying to take it to absurdity to be dismissive, the more apt version of your analogy would be someone being wrongly convicted -- which happens all the time. So no, you believing that there's no room for error is just being part of the problem and doubling down on it. There's even a word a word for it. Arrogance.
@TruthBringer Well said.
Because the left teaches us that men are evil.
it can be relation people that you don. t want to date or find new love person that can treat you right and far and always be there for them talk to them see what with me stuff
All women are on pedestals and being encouraged but women hate each other like nothing else.
I don’t think that’s true. I think some men make the choice not to seek help because see it as unmanly.
I feel like men have more choices than women do. They can leave we get stuck with kids or whatever it’s not like we can dis own children that came from our bodies.
You can abort a child, even if the father wants it, and can force a father to pay child support by law, even if he doesn't want to be a father. How is that possibly "more choices for men?"
"get stuck with the kids or whatever"? Look everyone, "Mother of the Year".
No we cannot abort a baby. The only time is acceptable is if it’s rape. And no ones forcing you to do child support. It all depends on the person you have The children with
Bitch men go to prison for being too broke to pay for child support
@ranger346 So true! How about women not try to trap men with pregnancy?
@ranger346 That’s all up to the person you choose I have a child with
@KrakenAttackin Again that’s all in a person that you choose to have a child with. Not all women are out to trap you. Some women like me well except having a child with someone and truly will tell you I will handle it I have family and support you don’t have to be here
@Anonymous There are so many women like that out here in the west, it's hard to distinguish the good from the bad. So to play safe, men must be less tolerable to red flags physically, emotionally and mentally. SO many men have had long marriages only to find themselves flabbergasted with an unfaithful or unsatisfied wife who will eventually divorce rape them. If groups like MGTOW are growing rapidly and marriage rates are dropping, then we must take a step back and see what's going on.
@TruthBringer But that’s all in the decisions y’all make. Not every woman is like that. Trust me there’s a guy I love almost crazy for we have raw sex if I had a child I probably would disappear because we’re not together I’m not forcing him into something. It’s my responsibility to if he chooses to be with the child that’s on him I’m not forcing him
Religious and personal purposes I can’t abort a child
@Anonymous. Pointing to exceptions to the rule doesn't disprove the rule itself. If the majority of women were like what you claim yourself to be, then these male groups wouldn't grow rapidly.
@TruthBringer but that’s the thing there are exceptions every single day. You have to find those people they’re not just going to pop up. And most of us are just at home and we still deal with the same person and crap because it’s familiar and we don’t want to take risk of meeting Guys that are just the same way. So we’re stuck
Simple. Women start support groups. Men don't
Men's support groups are growing much more rapidly than that of women. Why? Because society isn't pampering to men as much as to women.
Meanwhile women have no problem destroying all groups, like the boy/girl scouts, and others. They can't just make their own, they have to destroy everything.
definitely so right 👍