There are only a couple I really follow.
Rollo Tomassi - while I think he's a bit of a prick and I probably wouldn't wanna hang out with him, there's a reason his books and his work are so popular. He's mostly spot on about male and female behaviour, although I disagree on some things.
Jack Donovan - probably less well-known because he barely talks about feminism or women, because he's gay. He speaks mainly about masculinity and I think that every man should read his book "The Way Of Men". I think it's the best break-down of what masculinity really is.
Andrew Tate: the guy went from being a poor kid to a 4x kickboxing world champion, multi-millionaire business owner. He talks a lot of shit to offend people which is entertaining, but here and there he drops nuggets of wisdom and a lot of the offensive shit he says is really just common sense.
Most of the rest I can't stand. They're mostly grifters who don't know what they're talking about. Many of them are just as confused as their audience I think.
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I don't follow anyone, most MGTOW guys don't go on these sites or blogs. In fact I don't like them as they are not representative.
In fact I'd say most guys are MGTOW, they just don't talk about it , some have never heard of it but are going their own way.
MGTOW went south when they closed the Incel thread and forced the Incel crowd into the MGTOW groups.
After that I think we need a new acronym but going my own way was never about a group identity.
It's like Antifa, not really a group, but people want it to be so they can lump people together as easier to dismiss and creat false propaganda about.
As a progressive guy I just walked away from women and dating like the vast majority of men I know.
Something is broken with women in this country, they hate men and show it.
I'm not going to return the hate, but I'm not going to take the abuse ether. I can just walk away.
The only thing I’ve seen with Red Pill/MGTOW is overwhelmingly hateful towards women. Almost all of them use every chance they get to bash women and make them less human.
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leaders?, well I am a mens right activist in a way... just dont like the extreme views. We should consetrate in including women on the talk so we can achieve , equality in fron of the law, in mental health care, in case of being abused, children custody, etc... apart of that. I do not really follow anyone, to be honest the short period i was like very red pilled was to much bitterness, If we want to be heared we need to include the other party without bitterness or resentment. I like thou Jordan Petterson. he is not in anything of this , is just an independent thinker from wich he speack we can all male and female benefit. of course his image has being kidnapped by people with other agendas. but the truth is just an independent thinker.
I have gone through a decent amount of Red Pill content and have heard of Coach Red Pill, Steph is Cold, Donovan Sharpe and Rollo Tomassi. I am not sure I'd Kevin Samuels falls in there or not, but I only knew about him from Donovan towards my break from the red pill content.
I definitely understand the idea and content behind it and while I agree with a good chunk of it, I feel a lot of it is easy to fall into a woman hating echo chamber because of red pill rage and a lot of angry men in general.
Steph made a good point in one of his videos I remember. "I don't want you to hate women, bro. I want you to understand them," in reference to a fan email he received.
I don't hate women, but the red pill has made me aware of things to keep in mind and how to live a life I can be content with not just centered around women, but living to my fullest potential as a man and enjoying life and staying focused on my mission and purpose.I don’t buy into the whole pill, alpha, beta, label attitudes a lot of people preach about. I believe people are more fluid than that. I think people who attach themselves to those labels are just too insecure to just be themselves confidently, so they need a set of rules that they believe will make them thrive in social settings.
The bitter, mom's basement dwelling fuckos?
None of them.
I do recognize and dislike the gynocentrism in western society and I wouldn't call myself a feminism supporter, but I believe these male reactionary movements are all worse.
Whatever credibility there was in these movements at their ideological beginnings, it was long since drowned out by the throngs of bitter, rejected, pimply, likely psychopathic little assholes who now adhere to and represent them.
Jordan Peterson is my favorite (if he can be considered part of the manosphere), in the sense that I'd consider him almost smart, but ultimately comically dumb.I´m not really following them but I share some of their interests because I´ve struggled with manhood and different definitions of masculinity all my life. I like some of their ideas but I´m not sharing everything. But I also experienced moments of kind of "toxic feminity" which I´d call bemothering in an extreme way. I have an overprotective mom, me talking her about my problems let to her trying to solve my problems and erasing every opportunity for it to come back. I also experienced other kinds of moments where I felt like being discriminated by women because I´m a guy.
These red pill figures combine three things that I despise like hardly anything else:
1) Scamming, 2) pseudoscience ("alpha/beta"), and 3) bigotry. They're scam artists who take advantage of loners by radicalizing them and fuelling their delusional, reactionary, hateful views on women. Basically, they're psychopaths.? There is no community, there aren't leaders, just some men who occasionally talk about how men have rights and responsibilites and we shouldn't be devaluing our own beliefs or culture in a modern time where some people believe all masculineity is toxic and dated. If you want some good talkers on this I'd reccommended Jordan peterson, Aba and preach, and better bachelor on YouTube very helpful people who don't show disrespect for opposing views. Enjoy.
No one. But i do like Tucker Carlson who legit was so dumb or maybe growing a brain for once, agreed with Bernie points of views... best part is i don't think he even realized that he was saying socialist left thinking ideas about how they could take small amount of money from jeff bezos crazy amount of money and use it for covid healthcare... It made me laugh so hard and I don't know how he didn't lose his Red pill followers after that.
Spiritually, Buddha & Lao Tsu. Politically - that's difficult but at this point anyone as different as possible from D. T. Musically, Jimi Hendrix and some other blues guitarists. Economically probably Keynes and anyone who understands that the trickle down theory has never & will never work. In general thought; Joseph Campbell. If I missed the point of the question & you want to, correct me
No idea what any of that means, I just enjoy life as much as I can.
to ask this question might belie a certain left wing or female characteristic. right wing men don't follow anyone. they come to these conclusions, maybe they heard them somewhere or maybe they came up with them themselves. But they don't look to others for what to think
the average MGTOW has probablly never heard the term even.I don't know any of them, aren't they all scam artists anyway?
I uses to listen countless people on youtube about that stuff.
Now I don't listen to anyone for guidance when it comes to that stuff, I got sick of that shit. I know what I want more than anyone.Rollo Tomassi, the god father of manosphere and the professor of the red pill. His 4 books, his awesome blog, and youtube channel are all great content and very educational.
I only just heard about this "manosphere" last week and I don't even know who the leaders are to follow. So none, I guess.
There's multiple communities that use the name red pill. As for manosphere, I've never heard of that term being used by anyone who thinks it's not a pejorative.
Most of em are trash mansluts but LFA is actually pretty wise, like an older brother, and he’s a lot more mature than the rest. He’ll actually give you advice which leads to more than just hookups, he’s thinkin long term
Manosphere... sounds like a new conspiracy theory created by feminists for the sake to deflect attention from real problems to an imaginary enemy.
I don't think equating the manosphere with the red pill is accurate or wise.
I don't "follow" any of them since they are too jaded but Better Bachelor seems like the most reasonable one.
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