Would a woman go to jail if she shot and killed her rapist?

[ManHater]

Say a man intends to rape a woman and she pulls out a gun and shoots him and kills him in order to protect her self. Indeed her life is not in danger to some degree but legal experts would argue that murder is a farheinous crime than the actual rape itself. Is that like saying let the man rape you, but you can't defend yourself because the use of a gun and killing far outweighs the crime of rape (sexual assault) itself. Hence if the woman kills the man she would be going to jail on murder charges. I have come across some stories where women have done just that and have received the short end of the stick in legal terms and are serving lengthy terms for using deadly force against perpetrators. What are your thoughts on this? Do you think the crime of sexual assault is equivalent to committing murder even in self defence?

[Soremain]

There are two questions there. What do I personally think and what the justice system thinks. But no, she shouldn't go to jail. Killing in self defense is not a murder, because it's not immoral. Murder = Immorally taking someone's life. If someone takes immoral action against you, you are allowed to use physical force, up to deadly force to stop that if that's what you deem necessary. The justice system and humans in general don't really understand moral rights. They even teach kids in school that "It doesn't matter who started the fight, both will get punished". They literally teach that you are not allowed to defend yourself if someone attacks you. That's just insanely dumb.

[Anonymous]

It depends. A lot of judges argue that self defense has to be necessary and as reasonable as possible which gives sense in my opinion. By reasonably they mean that you always choose the mildest option first.
Now let's get to rape. It is obvious that it is necessary in such a situation to defend yourself. The problem is that most the judges want proof that the woman was choosing the the mildest option possible to defend herself. If the woman screamed before and tried to beat him and then shot him in his leg and then his head it is self defense.
However if you shoot him directly in the head it could be considered as murder since you didn't choose the mildest option possible first.

[UCrayCray]

That’s absurd. When a person is in a situation where they could get violated or killed, the only thing in their mind is doing what it takes to protect themselves. To expect them to be of the mind to gage the minimum amount of force required to successfully protect themselves is ridiculous. They feel like they’re fighting for their lives. All bets are off when you decided to try and make me a victim.

[Opinion Owner]

Yeah I completely agree with you ! It is also not my opinion but that is how some judges argued before...

[purplepoppy]

The problem with self defence laws is you have to prove your life was imminent danger. Once you have a gun pointed at someone then it's hard to argue you were still in danger. A woman could of course shoot any man and claim he was going to rape her. Shooting him after the rape would be seen as a revenue act rather than defence.

[BCA6010]

Yes, because anyone who shoots somebody else even in self-defense is going to be detained and likely put in a jail cell until the police can reasonably verify the story. It doesn't actually matter if sexual assault or rape is seen as a less serious crime than manslaughter, all that really matters is that it's feasible that the shooter's life was in imminent danger.

Also if the shooter is an idiot and starts changing details of what happened, that isn't going to look good in the long run.

[RolandCuthbert]

That story makes no sense. How in the world can a woman know if a guy is only interested in rape? It only makes sense if he raped her and left, then she chased him down and killed him.

You incels need to think about things in terms of family. If you had a daughter, sister, aunt, niece, and they were facing rape, you would sanction anything she did to keep safe.

Get out of the basement and start hanging around normal people, in the flesh!

WTF?

[John_Galt]

Depends on where you live. most red states have “stand your ground laws” which means you have the right to stand and defend yourself by any means.
Most Blue states have “retreat and escape law” which means that even in your own house you can’t defend yourself, you are legally obligated to try and just run away first.

[ChrisMaster69]

The law varies between countries in UK, you could kill them up until the point they leave.

If in a house you could kill them while still in the house IF you believed they would commit act again or your life was in danger (thought).

But then, a woman in UK would not have a gun to protect herself in first place...

[jshm2]

You're confused.

The woman needs to prove her case no differently than a man would have to.

Using deadly force just because you "believe" something is going to happen, does not stand up in court.

By your logic, you might as well let psycho's walk the street and kill people; as they "believe" the other person was out to get them.

[Anonymous]

Its a tough topic. It can be hard to prove intent once the rapist is dead but it is easy to prove that she killed him.

All rapes aren't equal either. Feminists today claim that having consensual sex is rape if verbal consent was not given orally or if the women was drunk. Certainly those men don't deserve to be murdered. Neither do people guilty of statutory rape as long as it was consensual.

[_no_one_]

If she could prove that her actions purely were self defence then ig she's safe cuz self defence is self defence no matter a person is just about to hurt you or kill you, you never know other's intent.

[Hydra6544]

In my mind that would be a completely justified shooting and with people saying it isn’t the FBI and Secret Service’s deadly force policy includes if the person in endangering you in anyway.

[Agape93]

Depends on location and circumstances. But not usually

[Gedaria]

You cannot shot some one who might be going to do something.
She would need to shot him during the rape.

[jasco]

if he is actively doing it to her than no it be self defense however if she were to hunt him down then it would be 1st degree murder

[Anonymous]

So why r u asking this question or r u planning to rape a woman?

[NorthwestRider]

Is that self defense?

[Twalli]

In my opinion it's worse.

[Ilickvulvas]

Not in my state