Fellow Asian-Americans, how are you coping with the ongoing anti Asian sentiment?

[ADFSDF1996]

In order to be safe as someone who is part Asian, I carry tactical pens, pepper spray and some other “gadgets”. And I also avoid secluded areas.

However, most of the recent victims of anti Asian hate crimes are elderly Asian people and as usual the leftists tend to play it down as they once again show they don’t really seem to care about the Asian-American community. In fact, quite a lot of the anti-Asian sentiment is from leftists. What’s actually disgusting is how the leftists are trying to blame it all on the republicans, showing that they can’t even admit issues within their own groups. Not that long ago, An Asian man got in a argument with a bunch of far left protestors (more like agitators) who targeted him because he looks like Andy Ngo.

However, many Asians are starting to fight back. The people with anti Asian sentiments suddenly aren’t so “tough” when it’s one on one with an Asian that can fight back. Not to mention that many able bodied Asian Americans are starting to patrol their communities to protect vulnerable Asians from the cowardly degenerates.

[Not_Average]

You’re giving into propaganda. If the news focused on car accidents every day showing you horrific collisions non stop for months, then you’d most likely not get in your car anymore. They’re managed to convince Hispanics they are victims for a while. They no longer believe this. It was then blacks. Now it’s Asians. This is a way for the Democratic Party to say that Trump strarted this race war and demonize the entire Republican Party.

Asians are of the most upper class in America if you look at the rates of incarceration, education, and socioeconomic status. there are hate crimes against homosexuals, Christians, Jews, whites, blacks, and Mexicans.

You can carry pepper spray all you want, but what you’re carrying is irrational paranoia onset by the propaganda machine. Don’t let them think you’re a victim. I say that genuinely. Perceiving yourself as a victim will cripple your mind and rate of success.

These crazy leftist that you speak of are best to be avoided at all costs. They’re irrational fascist that will not be reasoned with. You can spew rational logically driven facts all day, and they’ll still attack you on a petty level based on emotion. Just avoid toxic people and the cultural cancer. Don’t subscribe to it.

[Jack9949]

Only liberals would harass people for their ethnicity. Notice where its all happening. In the major cities.

[MORPHEUS_12]

Yeah, they are fitting back alright, they are buying guns at record paces. My husband is a manager of retail establishment that sells guns. They come in purchase guns and they don't have the faintest clue how to use a gun. Many don't understand English and have trouble completing the applications for purchasing a gun. One couple in particular where taking pictures of the online application at the gun counter and where sending the pictures of the questions someone who was translating for them. The store subsequently refused the sale. What scares me the most are people running around with guns who aren't adequately trained in its safe operation.

[N192K001]

True. Tools are most useful when we can stay in control (& have the adequate training to do so). And the lack of language-skills to understand the forms (& laws) is disturbing to me. They should have assimilated just a little bit enough to be literate, at least.

[VanillaSalt]

While I agree they need protection. The fact they NEED guns to stay safe RIGHT NOW is disgusting. This is not America. And if I ever see this I’m stepping up to end it properly.

[Ccheeto99]

@N192K001 “they should have assimilated just a little bit to be literate” why do you bother saying anything when you’re so ignorant? Do you think they choose to be illiterate in the country they’re living in? Why would they purposely want to have things harder for themselves? Most Asian Americans work 24/7, even on holidays just to pay the bills and put food on their tables. They most likely work with other non English speakers, that’s why their English never improves to be fluent level. It’s the same with Spanish speaking immigrants. You have no idea how eager they want to learn, how every free second they have, they’re on YouTube listening to someone teach English. It’s so easy for a fluent English speaking American to be like, “well, why don’t they just learn?” You speak from a place of privilege

[N192K001]

@Ccheeto99 Privilege? You seem to mistake me for a White American who's ancestor have been in the Union for generations. Nope, I'm 1st-generation immigrant direct from Asia. Washington's immigration-controls are tough (for us citizens of 3rd-world nations), requiring us to fill a mountain of forms, be subject to background-checks, go through interviews, and submit to U. S.-law while still in our native jurisdictions… just for the CHANCE (yes, 'chance') to enter the U. S. If I remember correctly, the ability to carry a conversation in English was tested as an intrinsic part of the interview (done in English). Given the vast numbers of people U. S. embassies & consulates have condemned to rejections or sitting in waiting-lists for years (even decades) even when they looked promising, I am stunned that they apparently passed even when they could not have possibly interviewed in English competently. I can only imagine that SOME dependents with no English-skills would be allowed ONLY accompanied with an English-literate visa-applicant, but their numbers would be strictly controlled. Sure, they would be shielded from the rest of the English-speaking environment if they stick only with their compatriots, but that can be dangerous when it comes to firearms.

Especially with such deadly force, coordination & familiarity with commonly-shared rules, assumptions, and protocols is vital (which is why they should be able to, at least, study their resident-jurisdiction's necessary materials). If some run by 1nation's standards, while others run by yet another, while the predominant civilians & law-enforcement judge them both by their own (as do the newcomers), unnecessary bloodbaths are inevitable when misunderstandings arise. Pity & empathy will not raise their dead loved-ones from the grave. Pragmatism is needed to prevent their unnecessary demise in the 1st place.

[anylolone]

Don't worry, we'll teach you progressives until you turn into classical liberals, language barrier and all.

[VanillaSalt]

Your all fucking idiots. If you can’t communicate you can’t survive. Even knowing English I’m learning new languages.

[Djaay]

People can detect biased anger as a universal emotion no matter what language. Those guns I imagine are to be used on physical threats with bodily injury involved as seen as (only apparent) . Good for them , maybe some people will finally get put straight in they're place. You speak of safe operation... BS... Keep fully loaded , never pull out unless use , determine either fatal or non-fatal shot , point and fire once... done deal ask questions later. By the way , guns are everywhere and can buy from anyone. Why buy legally and adhere your name to it.

[ADFSDF1996]

@morpheus_12

You can’t really blame them for wanting to protect themselves. How do you know they don’t actually know how to properly use guns? One example is not enough for you to apply such an ignorant generalization on an entire demographic.

[Ccheeto99]

Racists are attacking Asian elderly which i find the most disturbing, the most Disgusting and the most scary. I remember when the pandemic started and I first started hearing news of hate crimes against Asians, I would not let my parents go anywhere by themselves. In between feelings of bitterness that my family and I had nothing to do with the country where the virus originated from, and this shock that I was feeling so scared for all the Asian Americans I knew in this country that I had grown up and called my home, I was actually more frightened of hate crimes than the COVID.

[amaguqe]

Have you just heard the news of hate crimes happening or you know actual examples from your private life? To me, it is unfathomable stupidity to connect Covid-19 to the people of slightly specific skin-color. If that is true, than the America has a pandemic of utter retardation, and nobody can save you. But again, I can hardly believe that anyone but complete nutcases would ever attack a person just for their skin-color, let alone if the reasoning is as idiotic as you claim it to be. We also call corona a Chinese virus, yet nobody would ever be stupid enough to blame any civilian for it's existence.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Well lets not forget that the overwhelming majority of the violence is not only coming from the left, but its coming from blacks (despite media claiming its white nationalism and what not (because the media has to lie about everything). Personally I think Asians should arm up and start carrying guns (I mean if they let antifa thugs do it why not Asians who are just trying to defend themselves)?

On a side note, their are very few things more satisfying then seeing a piece of shit get his, that guy deserved everything he got and then some (in the second video).

[N192K001]

Thankfully, I've not encountered it yet.

But sadly, my little-sister did from a patient (stricken with a form of dementia) she was treating as a nurse. She dealt professionally and tried not to take it personally, given the patient's condition. She also had management's support, so she was never assigned that patient again. (Actually, as to the whereabouts of that patient & whether she is still being treated in my sister's workplace, I don't know. That was the last my sister even mentioned encountered that person again.)

But to be prepared, I've maintained some safety-protocols: maintaining a distance from everyone else (for as much as is reasonably possible), going only to places (& only at times) with the fewest possible number of people as is reasonable, staying security-conscious, always keeping some weapon (s) on/near me whenever I'm outside, etc.

[lol20075]

I can't buy firearms for confidential reasons, but I'm keeping pepper spray with me whenever I need to walk alone somewhere. I make sure to have my phone with me as well, and ready to hit that record button should I get attacked. Where I live, there definitely is anti-Asian sentiment but they are not crazy enough to physically attack people, it's more just glaring at them. I try to not go anywhere outside of the home besides work, and even at work I limit interact with customers there.

[SuccessfulHornDog]

Like Chris Coumo said to don Lemon about being black on the inside, I am Asian on the inside and this bothers me too. I fully support fighting back and I have seen that video where the Antifa idiots harassed a random Asian man and were racist to him. Antifa members are more racist in general than everyone else. They just want to destroy society so they will join with BLM or WLM if it gives them cover to instigate violence and spread anarchy

[ZackBan]

I think all the BS we are seeing these days is due to pressure from the pandemic. You wear a mask all day and not enough oxygen makes it to your brain. You spend your time social distancing and even if you're not thinking about it the fear of catching covid is in the back of your mind.

So yeah people are becoming crazy and taking out their anger in the wrong places.

We can preach all we like about what people should or shouldn't do but end of the day people are individuals and each is gonna do his or her own thing.

The only way this ends is when the pandemic ends. People can go back to regular busy lives, to the gyms, to raves and parties and forget all about politics and race and fixing society.
Because no side is fixing society they're only dividing it more and more and breeding hate and violence.

[Jet-Blaque]

1. the leftists aren't playing it down they actually overplaying it. For clicks. Even with the rise of "hate crimes" you still at the bottom of all the other races' hate crimes. Percentages.

2. Majority of these attacks aren't hate crime there just normal crime on people who happen to be Asian.
Most of these people are picking vulnerable-looking people. Don't matter who you are.
OR They on drugs or mentally ill.
Then there people who are just comminting crime for crime sake.

[Emii_Urashima]

People need to understand that the Chinese government is a dictatorship and the 1.6 billion Chinese people do not have a say in their government. The first cases of the virus in my country, Japan, came from a cruise ship that originated in China, and had many infected Chinese people on board. I am sure the Chinese government knew about this and welcomed the result, but we do not blame the Chinese people.

[PinkMichae]

I think anyone who harrasses Asian people because of covid-19 needs to understand it wasn't Asian citizens or Asian-American citizens that messed up. Only the ones that released the virus then hid the severity of the virus from the world should be held responsible.

As far as the left, unfortunately the really extreme ones think violence is ok if their reasons are good. And most leftist I've dealt with have no tolerance for anyone who thinks differently from them.

[J2ohhhhh]

You know that WHO investigation concluded that it is very unlikely that the virus is from a lab?

[PinkMichae]

It may not have. However one of the who investigators said,

"Dwyer says that the team didn’t see anything during its visits to suggest a lab accident. “Now, whether we were shown everything? You can never know. The group wasn’t designed to go and do a forensic examination of lab practice.”

That tells me that they are making that conclusion simply trusting what the lab says.

But in the end China still withheld information not alerting WHO when they first discovered it. So even if it turns out that the virus came from a natural origin, they are still responsible not disclosing it to WHO when they discovered it. Other countries could have stopped travel sooner possibly keeping the virus from infecting all the other countries.

www.businessinsider.com/china-coronavirus-hid-information-delayed-response-who-2020-6

[J2ohhhhh]

Group of scientists 28 days investigation. Came up with 4 scenarios. No bias they did consider lab leak, and concluded it is very unlikely.

www.google.com/.../idUSKBN2AA0QK

8 December 2019 first covid case in China.
31 December 2019 China notifies WHO that shit is getting real.
23 January 2020 Wuhan lockdown.

China notified WHO sooner than they'd implied restrictions within China. Your politicians will obviously not say that "we are incompetent and we fucked up, they will blame it on China" and this is the very reason why Asian-Americans are getting harassed and even attacked. Not knowing what's going on, or not caring enough to do proper research is a thing but spreading false information that comforts you is dangerous.

[PinkMichae]

I provided you the link so I know they said it's unlikely. But the one also said if they are telling them everything you never know. And they weren't set up to do a forensic investigation. But like I said above it could be a nature source it came from.

Well according to this it was China that was dragging their feet and WHO covered it up making the world thing they were being transparent. They said because they were trying to coax the info out of them.

apnews.com/.../68a9e1b91de4ffc166acd6012d82c2f9

So if you believe the WHO is throwing China under the bus with them saying they weren't forthcoming why is it you trust the investigation by WHO doctors saying it LIKELY didn't come from a lab?

Sounds like you only like them when it fits what you want the truth to be. So don't try and act like I'm ignorant. You may be able to pull that on some. It's a classic leftist move as well. Put the other person down to shut them up. Not gonna happen with me. Don't let the pink hair fool you.

[PinkMichae]

And I refuse to even read what you have to say once you result in put downs.

[Emii_Urashima]

@J2ohhhhh The WHO seems to have some kind of underhanded arrangement with the Chinese government. They remained silent about the virus for several months from December 2019 into late January 2020, at the request of the PRC. This was part of the reason why former US president Trump pulled the US out of WHO. Any WHO investigation is probably decided by the Chinese government.

[amaguqe]

@J2ohhhhh Interesting.. Because I just very recently listened an interview with Jamie Metzl, who is one of the more important advisors for the WHO. It is very much concluded that the virus originating from the Wuhan lab is by far the easiest and most logical explanation. There is a ton of evidence of human interference with the genome

[SpiderManFan2002]

Unfortunately there’s been incidents where East Asian people have been getting attacked in the UK too. It’s quite disgusting really, people are always looking for someone to blame, black people are thugs, Latinos are thiefs, Muslims are terrorists and now East Asians are responsible for the coronavirus🤦🏾‍♀️It’s racist bakwas, honestly. Stay safe out there.

[PinkMichae]

Are a lot of people in the UK racist like that? I mean I've heard they are a bit more racist than America but I assumed it's just a small minority of people like in America.

[SpiderManFan2002]

It really depends on which part you visit- in some areas people indeed can be very racist, in others they’re not and everyone gets along well🤷🏾‍♀️

[J2ohhhhh]

Racism isn't just about evilness, it's 99% stupidity and ignorance. Both British and American culture fails to educate people so we both have lot of that stuff.

[SpiderManFan2002]

That’s true to an extent. In most cases, it’s about ignorance and stupidity and it’s everywhere but there are some cases where it’s about pure evilness, prime example Hitler.

[PinkMichae]

@J2ohhhhh racism exist in every country. Not just in British and American culture. America is the least racist country you can live in. And if America failed to educate people then we would still not give other races the same rights white Americans have. The truth is racism exist in a minority number of individuals with all races and cultures including against white people. But with time it has become less of a problem in America accept during election time when the Democratic left needs minority votes. The American media does a good job to spin stories to make America look more racist that it is.

[ADFSDF1996]

I’m pretty sure it’s happening all over the Anglo sphere.

[jennifer_bloom]

I’ve been laid off so have not encountered a lot of people but I tried to get three racist co workers fired for mistreating me for my race - one lost their job but two were able to keep there’s, at least in the short term. I think other Asians complained about them to management after I left.

[yucychan]

@jennifer_bloom
I'm sorry to hear that. It really sucks.

[mike5150]

There starting to fight back and the attackers are suddenly not that tough? I think that's a pretty fair accessment and why these leftish teaching points of not fighting back are ridiculous. A lot of these people look for someone they think is easy prey and won't fight back. These type of people deserve everything that happens to them when they suddenly have to actually fight.

[tiptoe98]

I had my own bangali Asian friend make racist Chinese jokes and ranting in public about what they eat and the virus while east asains passed her and heard her. I was sooo embarrassed im black by the way

[lrichl]

Shame on her, she is a minority too.

[tiptoe98]

I was so uncomfortable she's loud to and i didn't know were to put my eyes cause id see the hurt looks on their faces and felt guilt and not sure what to do in that situation. I wouldn't want them to think I'm like that.

[SpiderManFan2002]

Ugh honestly I’ll never understand how minorities can put other minorities down like that🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

[mazeltov]

Tell her straight to her face that she’s a minority too and what she’s doing is giving you a second hand embarrassment. She should shut up her Bengali ass. I know how they are their country is one of the poorest and the ignorance of their people. If I tell her my experience with her fellow bengals she wouldn’t like it. Honestly she should shut up.

[AliceTheNguyener]

Wish I could do something about it, but society will always find a way to unload long standing frustrations against different groups of people. I don't really go outside much, and haven't experienced any violence thankfully, but do know some who unfortunately did. Just heartbreaking.

[kkirk4442]

That is really bad, and sad.

[Feelicks]

If you're American grow a pair and buy a pistol if your genuinely worried.

As for anti asisn sentiment, it's absurd. If we're going to place blame it should be aimed squarely at the CCP for allowing unethical virus research, poor lab containment protocols and not stopping international travel fast enough.

The CCP likes to equate criticism of the regime to racism, which is an invalid argument.

[ADFSDF1996]

It’s not just Chinese people who are being targeted, it’s East Asians in general.

What we need is more Asians like the rooftop Koreans.

[hellacray]

Ganging up on someone and pushing elders I mean it's just a bunch of pussy ass bitches.

I for the most part am staying at home cause well you know why. But yeah good for these people patrolling the streets.

I just hope it doesn't spawn a new gang. Cause this is exactly how it starts.

[SirJohn42]

I dont know if its as big as your saying. Never encountered it. Just like blm and antifa garbage. Enough is enough stop following the liberal agenda and lies.

I say love everyone as yourself, love your nieghbor as yourself love your brother and sister. Love God.

Stop spreading hate and lies.

[goaded]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/zA4Sr63f2EM

Hit someone twice your age, go to hospital, then jail.

F'ing cowards, the lot of them.

[LuvMeSomeBoys]

So you avoid secluded areas, become guarded and fully aware of your surroundings, look for safe harbor or escape paths everywhere you walk, carry tac pens, OC, or other weapons to protect yourself.

Now you know what it takes for a woman to stay safe 24/7/365. Welcome to our world!

[VanillaSalt]

I would like to say 10 years ago if you were being assaulted and I saw it ide jump out and beat that fuckers ass for you... now however assault or a simple tire change is your problem. Women have become extremely dangerous and I won’t risk myself for them these days.

[LuvMeSomeBoys]

Do you feel better now?

[VanillaSalt]

Do I feel knowing if I help a woman with her tire she could accuse me of rape and I could lose my job, my freedom, and the respect of the people I care about?

What about you? You got your equality. You can do everything a man could including fight your own battles and change your own tires. Did you think your new freedoms don’t come with more responsibility? Did you think your actions don’t have consequences? I hope the equality you got was worth it.

Also why you mad? I’m not the one going out and raping you, assaulting you, or piping your tires... I’m just the guy walking by pretending it’s not happening.

[LuvMeSomeBoys]

You sure trigger easily.

[VanillaSalt]

Your passive aggressive comments are the only thing that screams triggered here.

[LuvMeSomeBoys]

LOL. Not even. If you want to keep ranting off message go right ahead.

[VanillaSalt]

Gotta fight for that last word

[LuvMeSomeBoys]

As your comment clearly illustrates!

[VanillaSalt]

And continue to prove!

[LuvMeSomeBoys]

Yes you do continue to prove it.

[VanillaSalt]

I got this

[anylolone]

Sorry, I couldn't hear you over your lowest victimization rates, young woman.

[LuvMeSomeBoys]

Good, because I wasn’t talking to you anyway.

[anylolone]

Way to say "good, you are right on point so I'll diverge from that".

[LuvMeSomeBoys]

Actually it was a more polite way of saying I didn’t put a quarter in you. But think whatever you want, you will anyway, young man.

[ADFSDF1996]

@LuvMeSomeBoys

Typical leftist rhetoric. Make everything about yourselves.

[LuvMeSomeBoys]

You really have missed the point.

[ADFSDF1996]

@LuvMeSomeBoys

Nah I’m pretty sure you are trying to make this about “feminism” when it has nothing to do with feminism.

But wait a minute aren’t you that same person who thinks a person shouldn’t be allowed to defend themselves?

[LuvMeSomeBoys]

No, not the same person. No, not about feminism. Your post starts off with the best safe practices and items you carry because you're part Asian. I'm half Japanese myself, and the other half is neither white nor black. And no, I've never said anything about not defending yourself. I'm about as far right as Attila the Hun on that issue and I defend those who get involved in self-defense situations quite often. I'm a practicing defense attorney, all I've pointed out on GaG are outrageous comments that suggest Castle Doctrine is something of a wholesale license to kill are outrageous. Stand Your Ground and other defense law varies too much from state to state to make those type of comments, and in reality the law is about protecting life, not property. To the point of my post, yes, we've been taught as women to be on alert, look for escape paths, be prepared to defend ourselves, be it against muggings, physical, or sexual assault. Truth of the matter is these days unless you're built like a linebacker carrying a rifle, a bandoleer of ammo, and maybe a few grenades, you're a target for determined thugs - regardless of sex, race, anything else. Thugs prey on the weak or those who don't appear capable of offering resistance. And walking around protest gatherings without having an active role in the protest is an invitation to be taunted, whether it's based on race, the fact you're not participating ("if you're not for us you're against us"). Kind of like walking down a high street crime area with $100 bills hanging out of your pocket. It seems odd the areas where anti-Asian remarks and crime are happening are in areas that consider themselves "progressive" and left leaning. It's pretty peaceful here in flyover country. We're on the same side here, know it or not.

[ADFSDF1996]

“ Now you know what it takes for a woman to stay safe 24/7/365. Welcome to our world!”

Feminists always say the same thing. Acting as if all men are out to get them.

It’s not a matter of castle doctrine or stand your ground not being licenses, it’s a matter of how certain states (specifically left leaning ones) have weak castle doctrines and don’t have a stand your ground law. California technically has a castle doctrine but it’s ridiculously weak. It’s almost as if there isn’t a castle doctrine in place. On the contrary, Nevada has a much stronger castle doctrine that lies people to defend themselves and their homes without risking getting in trouble with the authorities. You as someone who is an attorney should know these simple facts.

[ADFSDF1996]

*allows

[LuvMeSomeBoys]

How you get from my statement that I'm somehow inferring "all men are out to get (women)" is beyond me. That would be like me saying your posts somehow infers everyone is out to get Asians or anyone who looks Asian. Let's not put words in each other's mouths.

It would be great if the term "Castle Doctrine" were to be stricken from any and all discussion pertaining to use of force, deadly or otherwise, in self-defense. Ironically, your example (California v. Nevada) argues precisely why.

[VanillaSalt]

You better be a gent or lady on my property or I’ll show you my castle doctrine. Police here recommend if your gonna defend yourself shoot to kill because an old lady lost a lawsuit to the man crippled by the bullet that stopped him from robbing her home...

Texas where I live also has what’s called make my day law. It’s castle doctrine except in the streets and including other people... aka you’ll meet the barrel of my gun if you harass a stranger in the streets.

[LuvMeSomeBoys]

Texas does not have a Castle Doctrine law, which illustrates the point I made above. The term is so misused it isn’t funny. If Stand Your Ground or MYD extends to the vehicle, workplace, or any place one has a legal right to be, Castle Doctrine no longer applies. The law is less restrictive, though who is the aggressor and other factors apply. You make a point, though. If one crosses the line into lethal force territory, be prepared to make it lethal. Center of mass, shoot until the aggressor stops, meaning empty the weapon if you have to, and if the aggressor doesn’t succumb to wounds after getting shot with 15 rounds, insert another mag and keep shooting. It really doesn’t matter if one shoots a single round or 20.

[ADFSDF1996]

@LuvMeSomeBoys

Everyone knows that stand your ground and castle doctrine laws are two different self defense laws. But that’s exactly what they are, self defense laws. I don’t know what is it you are trying to argue against exactly considering that nobody ever said that self defense laws are synonymous with “vigilante licenses”.

[anylolone]

Kyle.

[monkeynutts]

It’s kind of shocking but I have seen someone yell abuse at a stranger for being of Asian decent. So I know shit happens. Not cool. I have to admit that I’m not very enthusiastic about getting to know Asian people, or date a woman that might be part or Asian, that’s because I’m not a very social person, and I have preferences for other kinds of girls, but I would not hurt or intimidate another because of their background.

[SaoirseS]

I have not experienced any “anti-Asian” sentiment, nor have the communities here.

[lrichl]

same, its not as big a deal as people are making it out to be

[Feelicks]

It's just Chinese Communist Party propoganda for the most part, though I'm sure some people are actually dumb enough to behave like that.