everyone wants to think and act the same is what's considered "normal." a lot of people who dont think like this in other hand usually dont like to express differences because they fear these emotional mobs are gonna rebel against them or just simply dont want to hurt their fragile little feelings
I stopped engaging in debate because of this. Most people just can't separate their beliefs from their identity. And most people's beliefs are based on ignorance and being misinformed, so basically there's no rationality in debating anyone anymore.
Because they have not learned to control their impulses. I really dislike when people say "I feel", when one is asked for an opinion. I did not ask for your feelings.
You’re not using logic here , i think rape is worse than death , blinding someone yeah is worse but still not by huge margin rape victims get their lives fucked up because of the crime murder is the death of the body but rape is death of the soul
I said blinding people is worse so we agree on that but the rest you make a good argument , but from what i have seen with my own eyes begs to differ i also believed the same as you
Read over what you posted, and then figure it out from there from the outlook of a Code of Bushido devotee, and what that might mean for our world regardless of gender differences.
That just means that you have not trained enough in martial arts mentality and the practicing of those types of arts that you forge for yourself into one harmonious whole. The Code of Bushido is a great set of ethics to develop like that, because to chose life over death in confrontations is considered dishonorable that carries into the afterlife and throughout the reincarnation cycle. When you no longer fear death and make friends with how you are going to die, you will never fear another thing again from that point on, and I have seen many females that were even more fervent in their devotion than I am, and they are much to be feared and respected by the public where I am, and the best part is that I got them to that point due to my sensei aspects and teachings, just like my username which there are huge reasons behind it.
You will if you ever have to defend yourself without weapons on hand to subdue an opponent or attacker someday or night. The Candle Punch technique is a great way to practice beforehand though.
Most rape victims died have hope. My sister can't wear a ponytail anymore. Why? Because she was raped once with her hair in a ponytail. She moved to Texas to publically go to graduate school. Privately she was raped 3 times while in Oklahoma and needed to get away for personal reasons. Without experiencing rape, you can't really tell how much it messes up your life. I don't even know the full effects, but I have an idea because of my sister.
@jessiebellll - did you miss the comment that Twalli said... his sister required five separate therapists to deal with her rape and she still can not wear a ponytail. She is living a shadow of her life. She puts on a happy face. Does that mean she's happy? If she was happy she'd "forget" the rape as you have said a many times and have a ponytail. She can't because that ponytail is a reminder and will be a reminder of her rape until she dies.
In many ways Twalli's sister and other rape victims are like someone blinded. They make do with the life they have. Are they enjoying it? If they were his sister wouldn't need five therapists would she?
@SomeBlondeChick no, she is living a good life with her boyfriend
The ponytail is a reminder, but it has little impact on her life. She is not traumatised anymore as you believe. That's a lie. Her life might not be the same, but it's definitely good and far from being dead or blind. A blind person will always be severly limited in life.
@jessiebellll - you are an uneducated twit. She was so utterly traumatized by her rape she required five therapists. Twalli asked you do you know anyone who has that many - your answer no. Do you think happy people require therapists?
She is looking an OK life as Twalli - who knows his sister FAR MORE than you EVER WILL and who you are ONLY INSULTING in your IGNORANCE - said. He didn't say she was living a good life. He said OKAY. Do you read what people say to you?
@jessiebellll - rape isn't 100% recoverable you uneducated simple minded twit. She would be able to wear a ponytail if it was. She wouldn't require five therapists if it was. Twalli himself says rape DESTROYS LIFE.
@jessiebellll - you asked and how am I insulting her? By minimizing what she underwent you fool. You saying she has recovered when she hasn't you fool. You are worst than a racist saying that blacks who are imprisoned deserved.
@SomeBlondeChick I never said 100 percent, but to the point they can live a good life like anyone else. Memories are natural. Everyone has to deal with them.
@jessiebellll - I am not twisting your words. You're just pathetic. Twalli who is this woman's brother himself says rape can destroy life and you ignore him. You who wouldn't know his still traumatized sister from a hole in the ground trivialize what she went through by saying she recovered when she hasn't... she's making do like anyone blind.
The reason why people have issues with death is because they don't understand why it affects them so much. The more sadness and pain you empierce with a death in the family means you had so many good memories with them. If you only focus on all the good memories and ignore the fact that they're dead, you will be much happier. There are no good memories associated with rape
@jessiebellll - you really have problems. As @Twalli said there are no good memories with rape. His sister is a prime example of that and you are absolutely disgusting in trivializing her assault and that of other rape victims. With death, people forget. In two, five, ten, or twenty years the person who died is forgotten. All that remains are the good memories and the obligation of lying flowers on the grave.
Unlike rape. The memories of rape - as exemplified with Twalli's sister and any of the women I've dealt with in five years of working in women's shelters - remain for years. And they - the horror, the feelings of disgust, etc., - can be triggered as if they happened just yesterday years later by something as simple as a ponytail. As like anyone who suffers a horrifying traumatic event (ptsd).
You insist that she says a good life. Every one of Twalli's responses implies she's hanging on not that she's even legitimately happy or having a good life.
@jessiebellll - whoever said "get over" the death of a loved one. And you've the nerve of bitching about me putting words in your mouth. I said good memories, etc. GOOD MEMORIES. Do you KNOW WHAT GOOD MEMORIES ARE.
RAPE DOES NOT CAUSE GOOD MEMORIES THEY CREATE TERROR, HORROR AND A SENSE OF DISGUST. EVERYTHING THAT IS NEGATIVE AND NOT GOOD.
Seriously. And to tell someone to go kill themselves... you ARE PATHETIC.
@jessiebellll - get help. You need it far more than you likely know. I've encountered many thoughtless inconsiderate people in my life and you, my dear, top the ranks.
@jessiebellll - your last posts, sweetie, involved telling me & rape victims to kill ourselves and quite kindly proved that you're mentally unstable. No decent human being, after all, tells others to kill themselves. Particularly with respect to what are highly vulnerable such as victims of rape. You proved in your last posts you're a disgusting individual.
@Twalli - I do apologize for this ingrate @jessiebellll hijacking your post. People like her are a special - in fact she is so ignorant as to tell myself & rape victims to kill ourselves - sort who may just be better off in a padded cell than out and about among people. What when she constantly degrades blind people on top implying they live a "nothing life".
@jessiebellll - Twalli said his sister required five therapists and is doing okay. Not that she is living a good life you useless twit. YOU and ONLY you said she is living a good life. What Twalli described is someone that will be haunted & traumatized for years to come.
And for that reason you're disgusting. Just as how you are disgusting in how you constantly humiliate blind people - as said someone who is blinded as an adult knows what a rose is, they're not stupid. Someone who is blinded as an adult can still read and write, they're not vegetables. But the way you speak they might as well kill themselves like rape victims should per you.
And now you compare robberies to blindness, death & rape? It's not even in the same league. You when you blubbered about robbery earlier didn't even mention being frightened just that it was a pain being poor. Doesn't compare. Not even close.
I begin to feel you weren't hugged enough as a child & seek attention. What you need is medical attention. A 72 hour psychological evaluation available at most hospitals.
@jessiebellll - do yourself a favor and get yourself evaluated at a mental health facility. You have told me & rape victims to kill ourselves. You have told me to get my eyes gouged out to experience blindness. I seriously hope you are not the caretaker of anyone is dependent on you (child, disabled person) as you more than likely abuse them.
@jessiebellll - no sweetie the only fool here is you and the thought that a "grown woman" is telling rape victims to kill themselves and a stranger to have their eyes gouged out has 3 adult children & a disabled husband is alarming. I'd say kudos to them for putting up with you but they're likely of the same low caliber in society.
When we ask questions we are mostly looking for particular answers. Something which supports our belief system and somewhere in the ball park. If we get out of the box answer you already know what happens.
No it doesn't, and if you don't believe me then just join the conservative's answer to Twitter (called 'Gab'). I did, as an experiment, for approx. three months, and the people there can be - and ARE - just as irrational and emotional as all those SJW's that people like to make fun of. Both ends of the political spectrum are to be avoided.
@Yaaten But that's exactly what people are gradually doing... moving AWAY from the mushy middle and taking a stand on one side or the other. I guess it's better to choose a side, rather than to be caught in the crossfire from BOTH sides
Yes, that's what they're doing, and that is precisely the problem. People are choosing sides, rather than thinking for themselves and doing what is right because it is right. If "crossfire" is the price I will have to pay to remain an independent thinker resistant to the peer pressure to conform, then so be it!
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social conditioning plays a major role on that.
everyone wants to think and act the same is what's considered "normal." a lot of people who dont think like this in other hand usually dont like to express differences because they fear these emotional mobs are gonna rebel against them or just simply dont want to hurt their fragile little feelings
Emotions are always first bc thats what happens first... and adronaline... first instinct than rationality
Emotional responces don't require any effort. They are automatic, which is why polotics and news media are more theater than cold hard fact.
Yeah people don't try
I stopped engaging in debate because of this. Most people just can't separate their beliefs from their identity. And most people's beliefs are based on ignorance and being misinformed, so basically there's no rationality in debating anyone anymore.
Because they have not learned to control their impulses. I really dislike when people say "I feel", when one is asked for an opinion. I did not ask for your feelings.
But your opinion is your feeling
No. Opinion is what you think Not what you feel. There is a difference. I think think this weather is dangerous. I feel frightened in this weather.
What you think is influenced by your emotions.
For example you are sexist, which is because of how you feel
They have never been taught to think rationally and do not want to.
You’re not using logic here , i think rape is worse than death , blinding someone yeah is worse but still not by huge margin rape victims get their lives fucked up because of the crime murder is the death of the body but rape is death of the soul
Rape victims life is still recoverable and there is lot of potential to live a good life compared to blind people.
With murder there is no hope. For that reason alone rape is better.
Soul is irrelevant, it doesn't have a value unless you are religious.
You seem prejudiced by religion
What do you see there>
I said blinding people is worse so we agree on that but the rest you make a good argument , but from what i have seen with my own eyes begs to differ i also believed the same as you
And nah not by religion it’s just what i mean by soul is essence maybe identity these are probably better terms
Thanks for agreeing on blinding
Because people like to believe they are correct. That’s sometimes called arrogance
Most people tend to use both their emotions and rational thinking. Using only one of the two (which includes zero emotions) is stupid
Some use their emotions more than rationality which is plain dumb
Because one can't build a moral system with something that hasn't been invented yet. (Try to think of our ancestors)
Most people just heat up without cooling down. These people have no common sense so they blow fuses pretty often
Like you said, "injury is more easily forgotten than insult."
I never said that
Read over what you posted, and then figure it out from there from the outlook of a Code of Bushido devotee, and what that might mean for our world regardless of gender differences.
You are assuming things based on what?
Physical violence is far worse to me
That just means that you have not trained enough in martial arts mentality and the practicing of those types of arts that you forge for yourself into one harmonious whole. The Code of Bushido is a great set of ethics to develop like that, because to chose life over death in confrontations is considered dishonorable that carries into the afterlife and throughout the reincarnation cycle. When you no longer fear death and make friends with how you are going to die, you will never fear another thing again from that point on, and I have seen many females that were even more fervent in their devotion than I am, and they are much to be feared and respected by the public where I am, and the best part is that I got them to that point due to my sensei aspects and teachings, just like my username which there are huge reasons behind it.
Cool, I don't give a shit
You will if you ever have to defend yourself without weapons on hand to subdue an opponent or attacker someday or night. The Candle Punch technique is a great way to practice beforehand though.
Just because you consider murder worse than rape doesn't mean it is.
Well yes but some people get mad about it
And law says murder is worst
What measures do you go with?
Murder ends life rape can destroy one.
But you still have a life you can improve.
With murder, you have nothing
So why should a life where you have hope be worse than no life at all?
Most rape victims died have hope. My sister can't wear a ponytail anymore. Why? Because she was raped once with her hair in a ponytail. She moved to Texas to publically go to graduate school. Privately she was raped 3 times while in Oklahoma and needed to get away for personal reasons. Without experiencing rape, you can't really tell how much it messes up your life. I don't even know the full effects, but I have an idea because of my sister.
But your sister still lives a decent life, one she enjoys. Or does she want to die?
Dead people can't live their lives anymore
She lives an okay life and enjoys her boyfriend. If I am killed now and my sister dies if old age my life will have been better.
So how is murder worse if your sister enjoys life and is happy?
You are contradicting yourself completely
And what if she went blind, do you think her life would be better or worse?
@SomeBlondeChick here is a rape victim who lives a good life. I thought they don't and live in hell?
I guess you were wrong
So you think rape is worse because your sister can't wear a ponytail anymore?
She is as well off as she is because a lot of money can afford a lot of therapy. How many people do you know that have 5 therapists?
None.
But it shows rape isn't as bad as being killed or blinded.
Ask your sister if she would prefer to be murdered or blinded.
I'd guarantee she will say no.
@DJB72 rape is curable as you can ser
@SomeBlondeChick rape is curable, you see?
What excuse do you have now?
@jessiebellll - did you miss the comment that Twalli said... his sister required five separate therapists to deal with her rape and she still can not wear a ponytail. She is living a shadow of her life. She puts on a happy face. Does that mean she's happy? If she was happy she'd "forget" the rape as you have said a many times and have a ponytail. She can't because that ponytail is a reminder and will be a reminder of her rape until she dies.
In many ways Twalli's sister and other rape victims are like someone blinded. They make do with the life they have. Are they enjoying it? If they were his sister wouldn't need five therapists would she?
@SomeBlondeChick no, she is living a good life with her boyfriend
The ponytail is a reminder, but it has little impact on her life. She is not traumatised anymore as you believe. That's a lie. Her life might not be the same, but it's definitely good and far from being dead or blind. A blind person will always be severly limited in life.
@SomeBlondeChick just because you can't forget some memories doesn't mean much. Everyone has memories they can't forget.
People will never forget the death of their parents, so they are forever traumatised?
You are ridiculous at this point.
@jessiebellll - you are an uneducated twit. She was so utterly traumatized by her rape she required five therapists. Twalli asked you do you know anyone who has that many - your answer no. Do you think happy people require therapists?
She is looking an OK life as Twalli - who knows his sister FAR MORE than you EVER WILL and who you are ONLY INSULTING in your IGNORANCE - said. He didn't say she was living a good life. He said OKAY. Do you read what people say to you?
@SomeBlondeChick Okay life is a good life.
And she is OK now after years of rape. This is what I said 100x. Rape is RECOVERABLE. This post just proves it.
Being blind or dead is not recoverable.
@SomeBlondeChick and how am I insulting her?
Are you seeing things and believing them?
You are definitely mentally ill.
@jessiebellll - rape isn't 100% recoverable you uneducated simple minded twit. She would be able to wear a ponytail if it was. She wouldn't require five therapists if it was. Twalli himself says rape DESTROYS LIFE.
@jessiebellll - you asked and how am I insulting her?
By minimizing what she underwent you fool. You saying she has recovered when she hasn't you fool. You are worst than a racist saying that blacks who are imprisoned deserved.
@SomeBlondeChick I never said 100 percent, but to the point they can live a good life like anyone else. Memories are natural. Everyone has to deal with them.
Stop twisting my words
@SomeBlondeChick try recovering from blindness dumbfuck
Yet you put down death as something to take lightly. You are crazy.
@jessiebellll - I am not twisting your words. You're just pathetic. Twalli who is this woman's brother himself says rape can destroy life and you ignore him. You who wouldn't know his still traumatized sister from a hole in the ground trivialize what she went through by saying she recovered when she hasn't... she's making do like anyone blind.
@jessiebellll - try recovering from blindness. Are you so uneducated & dim you don't know people are born blind? They have nothing to recover from.
@SomeBlondeChick I am talking about people who went blind, you can't recover from it like rape.
Your memory is awful, Karen.
The reason why people have issues with death is because they don't understand why it affects them so much. The more sadness and pain you empierce with a death in the family means you had so many good memories with them. If you only focus on all the good memories and ignore the fact that they're dead, you will be much happier. There are no good memories associated with rape
So you don't care about your family? You seem very emotionless and cold. Like a sociopath.
You can recover from rape, but not murder, like your sister.
I think that's far better than being dead, even if you have fragments of the rape still in your head.
How does your sister live?
Does she work?
Does she have fun?
Friends?
boyfriend?
It seems she's doing well. So how would she better of dead?
@someblondechick
If you want to die, why don't you kill yourself?
Overdose or slit your wrist
@jessiebellll - you really have problems. As @Twalli said there are no good memories with rape. His sister is a prime example of that and you are absolutely disgusting in trivializing her assault and that of other rape victims.
With death, people forget. In two, five, ten, or twenty years the person who died is forgotten. All that remains are the good memories and the obligation of lying flowers on the grave.
Unlike rape. The memories of rape - as exemplified with Twalli's sister and any of the women I've dealt with in five years of working in women's shelters - remain for years. And they - the horror, the feelings of disgust, etc., - can be triggered as if they happened just yesterday years later by something as simple as a ponytail. As like anyone who suffers a horrifying traumatic event (ptsd).
You insist that she says a good life. Every one of Twalli's responses implies she's hanging on not that she's even legitimately happy or having a good life.
@SomeBlondeChick you think that, but some people never get over with death of their loved ones.
Rape victims only suffer when their memories are triggered. Other than that they are fine and live like anyone else.
Again, have a problem and think death is OK?
Go kill yourself, why don't you kill yourself and other rape victims if death is so much better?
I don't understand.
@jessiebellll - whoever said "get over" the death of a loved one. And you've the nerve of bitching about me putting words in your mouth. I said good memories, etc. GOOD MEMORIES. Do you KNOW WHAT GOOD MEMORIES ARE.
RAPE DOES NOT CAUSE GOOD MEMORIES THEY CREATE TERROR, HORROR AND A SENSE OF DISGUST. EVERYTHING THAT IS NEGATIVE AND NOT GOOD.
Seriously. And to tell someone to go kill themselves... you ARE PATHETIC.
@SomeBlondeChick you said death is better than rape.
You keep whining about their suffering all the time.
Wouldn't death be a solution to their problems?
Think about it
It's no big deal hun
@jessiebellll - get help. You need it far more than you likely know. I've encountered many thoughtless inconsiderate people in my life and you, my dear, top the ranks.
@SomeBlondeChick you don't want them to die?
Stop whining about their memories that get triggered rarely and barely affect their life, and my opinion and go to bed then.
You are being pathetic
@jessiebellll - your last posts, sweetie, involved telling me & rape victims to kill ourselves and quite kindly proved that you're mentally unstable. No decent human being, after all, tells others to kill themselves. Particularly with respect to what are highly vulnerable such as victims of rape. You proved in your last posts you're a disgusting individual.
@SomeBlondeChick I mean my last posts in our chat on your post.
Not here. Open your eyes, you'll see a lot.
But death would release them and end their suffering, you and @Twalli said its much better than going the groundbreaking effects of rape
So why are you changing your stance now?
@Twalli - I do apologize for this ingrate @jessiebellll hijacking your post. People like her are a special - in fact she is so ignorant as to tell myself & rape victims to kill ourselves - sort who may just be better off in a padded cell than out and about among people. What when she constantly degrades blind people on top implying they live a "nothing life".
@SomeBlondeChick it's the truth. You just don't want to believe it
@SomeBlondeChick you should start to value how people suffer from things like robberies instead of having occasional bad memories from being raped.
@jessiebellll - Twalli said his sister required five therapists and is doing okay. Not that she is living a good life you useless twit. YOU and ONLY you said she is living a good life. What Twalli described is someone that will be haunted & traumatized for years to come.
And for that reason you're disgusting. Just as how you are disgusting in how you constantly humiliate blind people - as said someone who is blinded as an adult knows what a rose is, they're not stupid. Someone who is blinded as an adult can still read and write, they're not vegetables. But the way you speak they might as well kill themselves like rape victims should per you.
And now you compare robberies to blindness, death & rape? It's not even in the same league. You when you blubbered about robbery earlier didn't even mention being frightened just that it was a pain being poor. Doesn't compare. Not even close.
I begin to feel you weren't hugged enough as a child & seek attention. What you need is medical attention. A 72 hour psychological evaluation available at most hospitals.
@SomeBlondeChick no I definitely felt what rape victims do.
I even felt more
@jessiebellll - do yourself a favor and get yourself evaluated at a mental health facility. You have told me & rape victims to kill ourselves. You have told me to get my eyes gouged out to experience blindness. I seriously hope you are not the caretaker of anyone is dependent on you (child, disabled person) as you more than likely abuse them.
@SomeBlondeChick I have 3 adult kids and had a disabled husband.
They are all fine.
You just made yourself look like a total fool lol
@jessiebellll - no sweetie the only fool here is you and the thought that a "grown woman" is telling rape victims to kill themselves and a stranger to have their eyes gouged out has 3 adult children & a disabled husband is alarming. I'd say kudos to them for putting up with you but they're likely of the same low caliber in society.
@SomeBlondeChick you result to ad hominem so much just because people have different views than you.
You literally said murder isn't as bad as rape, but you are throwing a tantrum about death for the last hour.
Try killing someone and see how much years you get compared to raping someone.
You are the most deluded person I ever seen
B'coz we cannot easily detach. That is where practicing meditation can be useful.
When we ask questions we are mostly looking for particular answers. Something which supports our belief system and somewhere in the ball park. If we get out of the box answer you already know what happens.
We do not use right things in the right place. Emotions also have use in right place and with right person.
"Emotions" instead of "rationality" describes the difference between Left-Wing Liberals, and Conservatives
No it doesn't, and if you don't believe me then just join the conservative's answer to Twitter (called 'Gab'). I did, as an experiment, for approx. three months, and the people there can be - and ARE - just as irrational and emotional as all those SJW's that people like to make fun of. Both ends of the political spectrum are to be avoided.
@Yaaten But that's exactly what people are gradually doing... moving AWAY from the mushy middle and taking a stand on one side or the other. I guess it's better to choose a side, rather than to be caught in the crossfire from BOTH sides
Yes, that's what they're doing, and that is precisely the problem. People are choosing sides, rather than thinking for themselves and doing what is right because it is right. If "crossfire" is the price I will have to pay to remain an independent thinker resistant to the peer pressure to conform, then so be it!
Because it’s their instinct
It’s been like that more lately for some reason
They have false opinions
That's why we need a reset
Human nature