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Same gender, yes.
Transgendered, no.
And I'm not trying to be closed-minded or anything, but we're not at that point in society, yet. Maybe once they stop trying to let men compete in women's sports and make it illegal to not lie to transpeople about what gender they really are.
That pic with the pregnant man is disgusting! And I don't usually care what other people do, but it's like, shit, pick a fucking gender and stick with it! Going trans and pretending to live as a man, and then getting knocked up should offend women, men, AND transpeople!
Right?
"Because sports"
There should have been an option for "Hell, no! Not in a jillion years!"
Might I ask why? Whats the problem with it?
@kingofthellamas
1. I believe that most transgender people are mentally ill. The incidence of psychiatric disorders is MUCH higher in the transgender population.
2. I would not want my child to possibly see a transgender person as a role model.
I don't have, and have never had, any children so all of this is hypothetical.
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š¤£š¤£š¤£ I was looking for the hell no option aswell
@kingofthellamas tf u mean what is the problem? Are you deaf, dumb, or blind? There is nothing natural about the images above. It is down right disgusting. A pregnant man are u kidding me? What is wrong with your head
I think there could very well be a connection with mental health. Gay men are much more likely to commit or attempt suicide than heterosexuals. I think being unclear about how you fit in as part of society and feeling unwelcomed by society has a big impact on mental health.
My kids are grown now. But it wouldn't of been anymore different than I was with any of their friends or friends parents. Visits, sleepovers were limited to those with parents where I knew there was proper supervision... Some parents don't even care what their own kids are doing getting up to, so my kids wouldn't of been sleeping over with at homes like that. Why had a pool swing trampoline in the yard, most kids came to our house... I would of never forbid based on sexual orientation, more what kind of people and parents they were.
🤢🤮🤮 No creepy!!
@DiscomfortZone Way to go, thinking someone should be in prison because they didn't teach someone something you support and agree with.
I take it your not part of the free society and think everyone should be locked up that you disagree with.
@Leylaland Itās degenerate.
You literally sound like a child right now. And you canāt spell. Hm. I mean call me what you want but like you said, use facts, not emotions. I know youāve been taught to treat people who are LGBTQ, but Iām sorry to break it to you, your wrong and arenāt the best person let me say. You treat people differently for the way they are, and get pissed off when someoneās calls you off for it. Please be mindful that your not above everyone else, and that your hurting people that just want to live their lives peacefully. If you want to let out your anger on something, please do it in a sense full way. Swearing and using rude tone to those who most certainly donāt deserve it wonāt help you at all girl. Iām sorry that youāve been raised to believe something horrible, but hopefully you get the help you need to realize what your saying.
And Iām not a SJW, Iām just someone with sense. And please donāt tell me you think you saying something disrespectful āis okay because you can say whatever you wantā. Iām seriously disappointed with society and people like you. Please watch what you say as you are not above everyone else, you donāt get to say what the hell you want, and that you need to watch your attitude.
Why it' degenerate what makes it degenerate, please explain I want to understand your point of view. I used dictionary to try to understand what your saying the relation between the action and the word but still doesn't make sense. Can u explain further. I'm not saying to be a troll or anything bad I really want to understand your tought.
@Zzmaex I never said it was okay to harass anyone for any reason. You must be mistaking me for one of your other rants.
I merely stated the the other person thought someone should be in prison for not teaching what he thought the values should be.
Then I went on to talk about rights and freedom of association. I support no type of harassment of any kind. Your the one that seems to be verbally harassing others... and calling it free speech.
I never even answered the question of if I would let my kids go hang out over there or not. Even if my answer was no, that isn't harassment that is freedom of association. Please try to keep up and study the bill of rights.
I'm with you on this one
@Zzmaex nice of you to try to virtue signal for black people. We donāt need your pity nor do we need your help. If someone says something to us then it shouldnāt matter because itās freedom of speech. Hate speech is free speech. Iām black and Iām saying this. Words wonāt kill you. Grow up. Iām with @modelun242 on the simping it black people by white women. Itās really tiresome. Take that somewhere else. We donāt need it.
@Zzmaex Why did you report my comments? You called me a bitch!
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No because I want my children to have as traditional and normal an upbringing as possible so I would keep them away from anything that is non traditional or taboo because I donāt think it is right to pollute young minds. Theyāre too little and they need to maintain their innocence.
Hell to the no.
"YoU'rE JuSt a bIgOt"
Yeah, nah. I have nothing against transgenderism at face value. But, based on my own experience with them, there appears to be a major overlap between transgenderism and mental illness, and a super majority of them are fucked-in-the-head, caved brain Marxists who have developed into malignant and unstable personalities and gleefully embrace all of the most odious elements of modern leftism.
I have come across a couple of trans people online who I do highly respect. I could trust them with my children. But, unless I really know them before hand, my position is hell no.
Depends. Transgenderism is real, its also really rare. So if we have some one who is aware that they are transgender and doesn't pretend like its normal, a transgender person who is not just using that claim to dismantle society (which to be fair is probably most REAL transgender people (as I've heard transgender people put it, their are transgenders and their are transetters, wannabes who use it to get attention).
Same goes for homsexuality, its real but its not common and you can be gay and a normal person and not be some far leftist lunatic (Dave Rubin would be a good example of this).
So if they are good people and they are not trying to brainwash and indoctrinate my children or any one else for that matter, I wouldn't have a problem with it but then that goes for any one straight and "cis" gendered.
You are as stupid as you are lgbtqphobic. People don't try to brainwash children unless they are religious scum. Grow up.
@DiscomfortZone excuse me but they do. I have a gay uncle and heās a wonderful person to hang around but then I met this transgender guy who was way extra so donāt go acting like we hate gays or transgender cause I love my uncle.
@DiscomfortZone That itself is brainwashing. Your doing exactly what you claim others of doing, that is the problem. My brother is gay, I don't get along with him, not because he is gay but because he treats people like you do, like they are inhuman and beneath him and that he is superior to every one else. When I see christians who act that way I also don't like them, but if they are decent people then it doesn't matter. your clearly heterophobic and have a strong religious phobia, you should work on that before casting judgment on every one else, especially those who you don't know anything about and couldn't be bothered even trying to understand.
Sure- if I was particularly concerned, I might want to meet them first, but that's more about the individual people. I know it's easy for me to say what I would or wouldn't do, since I don't have kids, but basic genetics says that any child of mine who's smart enough to have friends is going to be curious enough to ask questions.
There's no absolute yes or no. It's according to who the people are and if they are acceptable as rational, caring parents to you.
There are kids I wouldn't let my son hang out with because their heterosexual parents didn't live up to my expectations.
It's not about what gender politics parents follow, it's about who they are as people and how they behave.
Absolutely not. I'm not going to allow my kids to be around corrupt-minded people. And how lovely to see so much hate going towards people who answered the question with a "no". It's funny how people virtue signal for the LGBT-community, yet are the same ones who (deep down) wish their kids or family members are not part of the LGBT-community (like being gay). So easy to lift their skirts up
I'll do life with my kids but I'll do life for my kids if anyone fucks with them🤬🔫
So no I don't have a problem with it 😎https://youtu. be/cM42nG7Tjgs
Of course.
As long as Iāve met them myself.
Thatās standard for any parent.
Kids!!! No they donāt need to know about these things in young age 💕āØ
Speaking as a gay parent, my experience is children don't seem to even notice same sex parents until they're approaching 10. I'm not sure why it would be important to shield them from such things in young age though. Are you perhaps confusing relationships and sex?
@kingofthellamas
Because gay and transpeople tend to be more perverted than not. There's more rational gay people out there now, but some of them still love to "put on a show" in edgy teenage style rebellion, as if they want to intentionally annoy people, then call them "transphobic" when people get annoyed with their obnoxious performances.
I mean, it's even risky with straight couples nowadays to let your kids stay with them. They could be SJW's or Communists or neo Nazis or BLM members or other race supremacists any other radical groups. With transpeople, the likelihood of them being sane goes down to near zero.
@kingofthellamas Because people don't want the risk of having their kid's mind getting poisoned by some LGBT-nonesense. Which is a fair worry to have. Sorry not sorry.
@TruthBringer What is meant by LGBT-nonsence?
@MCheetah I'm not sure what you mean by pervert. I wonder if you mean kiddy-fiddlers, or are you referring to people with e. g a fetish for rubber? I don't think you can lump together those with a sex fetish and pedo's. Its worth pointing out that plenty of straight people have very similar fetishes and I doubt there are more gay people with fetishes than there are straight people. There is a big difference between having a fetish and being a pedo. And I dont see there are more gay pedos than there are stright ones. They're all sick bastards.
Its not that there are 'more rational' gay people out there now. What has changed is that for many years there were a lot of gay people who were very visibly gay - fighting to get rights and a hidden larger group of less obvious gay people living in fear. Today, those who would have lived a life in the shadows can today be more open about being gay.
@kingofthellamas
"Its worth pointing out that plenty of straight people have very similar fetishes and I doubt there are more gay people with fetishes than there are straight people."
No one said anything about pedos. I'm talking about straight-up perverts. You know what I mean. Guys into anal, fisting, pozzing, and other f*cked-up sh*t. And yeah, you're right. There are straight perverts also, and they'd also just as easily be avoided. I just think there are way more perverted gays (by percentage) than perverted straight people. All you got to do is look at the STD statistics to see that.
I did admit it's not all gay people, so you'd have to know the couple first before making such a decision, but the chances of them being freaks and perverts are much higher. And as for trans people? Pretty much none of them are mentally stable. Like, at all. The Tiffany "It's Ma'am!" Moore and Jessica Yaniv types are more of the norm than the exception. That's why I said in my own comment I'd leave the possibility open for gay couples, but not trans ones.
@MCheetah I suspect that a virus that causes STD's is not so bothered about how it gets transmitted and so I do not think more STD's means more fetishes. It could mean has more sex. And it could mean is more willing to have riskier sex (e. g. with a person not your regular partner). But I doubt it is connected to e. g. fisting.
In either case, I don't see what people choose to do in the bedroom relates to their suitability to have children in the house. I think the problem might be that some people are uncomfortable that a person with an exotic sex life might also be a person who is in a position of caregiver to children. I'm not unsympathetic to that, but I don't see why we should believe a women into anal or a man into water sports could not also look after children just as well as anyone else.
@kingofthellamas
"I don't see what people choose to do in the bedroom relates to their suitability to have children in the house."
Of course not. This is the problem right here. And it's why so many people don't want their kids around certain gay people, especially those who are cavalier about STD's and anal sex. Now you can see why.
@kingofthellamas In other words, LGBT degeneracy
@MCheetah That would apply regardless of sexuality though, right? I mean how would you know if the parents of your children best friends were swingers? You could not know and if they were it would not make them bad or reckless parents
@MCheetah Because you could not dicern from an individuals sexual activity how they might parent, any more than there is to see how a person parenting skills correspondence to their ability to being good at their office job. A persons' activity in the bedroom is not a 'litmus test' for their other abilities.
@kingofthellamas
"A persons' activity in the bedroom is not a 'litmus test' for their other abilities."
I already explained it would apply to straight people too, and already explained that being a disgusting degenerate is not something most people (with decency, at least), are comfortable having their children around. It's not limited to just gay people, but the chances are higher with gay people, as you've just proved. I wouldn't have any kids I had around you if you seriously think being a disgusting degenerate and sexual deviant has nothing to do with raising children (as if children are just created by pure magic and sex has nothing to do with procreation).
@MCheetah So, if Marry Poppins or Supernanny was a dominatrix, that would in your view, discount their parenting ability?
@kingofthellamas
Yeah, no shit. It's why teachers get fired for having OnlyFans accounts or being escorts on the weekend. It isn't a good judgment of being a responsible adult capable of looking after others, especially since nine times out of ten, the hooker, stripper, and porn directors AREN'T suitable for raising or taking care of children. The fact you think otherwise is disturbing. Who in their right mind thinks sexual deviants and otherwise mentally disturbed people are suitable parents? Let alone, taking care of OTHER people's children, like the question asked. Contrary to what you may believe, there isn't as much of a separation between what one "does in private" and how they act in public. If you're a sick f*ck, no one is going to want you around their children, regardless of how well you THINK you can hide it around others.
@MCheetah I can understand people having a sideline income roles that are incompatible with their position as a state employed role model. But I would think there are plenty of really great teachers who are also into all kinds of kink. Its not about hiding kink. I think most people hold enough judgement to know what is or is not appropriate around other adults, and children. a
@kingofthellamas
"I think most people hold enough judgement to know what is or is not appropriate around other adults and children."
And that's where we disagree, which is why I, and most others on this post, don't want degenerates and mentally f*cked-up people watching children unsupervised.
@MCheetah My point is that excluding children from being around gay people is not going to prevent that. A gay person is most likley going to be very responsible and may also be excellent with little people. There is a small chance they are not, but that risk is there too for heterosexuals.
At this rate, you may as well be asking me to dump them off at the porch of Joe Random Catholic priest , and hope for the best. Then accuse me of having some sort of disorder for thinking that's fishy! Those quickest to accuse me like that, however , are usually guilty of even worse than what I suspect to be true.
Yes & yes.
I don't have kids yet, but when I do I'll be responsible enough to teach them God's ways. I will want want my kids to be around THOSE TYPES of people especially, to tell them they are on a fast track to hell.
It might be the only way for those people to hear about Christ's love.
Once I've vetted the parents, just like I would with anyone my kid would be visiting with, then yes of course.
Yes I would absolutely let them hang out with them after I got to know them. In fact, I think they would be safer with them due to the fact that they are non judgmental and they know what it's like to be different. Also, I have had better encounters with same sex couples and transgender couples than traditional couples in my opinion.
No, because I wouldnāt know what type of filth they are putting in my childās mind. When you are a parent you have every right to be a parent of your child. Itās not your responsibility or right to tell others how to live so I can leave that alone. But Iāve been around people who try to push their ideology on me and itās annoying. I think itās wrong when kids in elementary school have to listen to LGBTQ stuff. Kids donāt even know what sexuality is and yet weāre exposing that to them 🤦🏻āāļø
Let me also add that the LGBTQ want to add their message into religious schools like catholic school. What has the world come to and why is the LGBTQ forcing their agenda? Do they not know many religions donāt condone gay acts or lesbianism or homosexuality because they are considered sins in the eyes of God. So gag people want to push their message but if you ask a gay person to learn about Islam, Christianity, Judaism and others in they most likely wonāt. I donāt care if gay people want to make love behind closed doors thatās none of my business but when it comes to religious institutions and religious centres or schools thatās a no no, there needs to be boundaries.
Gay people want to push their message*
I would be fine with it so long as they don't try to influence my kid's sexuality or encroach on their beliefs and values.
That is something my kid needs to figure out from themselves with me being their guide should they have questions.
As a gay parent I can tell you , that we don't influence sexuality nor do we have any other values but being yourself and to be happy. I can easily say I'm fine with my kid visiting straight peoples house but I'm scared they will influence them.
"That is something my kid needs to figure out from themselves with me being their guide should they have questions." so what if your child say he is gay, will you influence him/her?
@DJ1991 good on you, and I wasn't implying that is what happens. I spent time under guidance of some gay people because of daycare growing up and I could care less about that. You and I would be cool and would not have a problem with you and I would not be trying to influence your kid if they came over to my house either.
What my argument is is that kids are very impressionable and their behavior and beliefs get set in stone by family and guardian's actions. Something critical and big such as sexuality and gender should not be pushed upon a kid when they barely have enough comprehension of how the world works or controversial topics like this. It should be saved for when they are older and have a firmer understanding of these concepts. Especially in this day in age when you now have young boys getting told to apologize for being a male by the people they are supposed to learn from. No different than those who say that their newborns baby is gay/lesbian/etc. Whether it is said as a joke or sincerity, if it is the latter, that's disconcerting because then thatbparenr is shaping their kid to how they want them to be. That is not what I want to see happen to a kid because then they can become very confused in later life. That is what I am getting at. This was not an attempt to bash gays or trans. Just me stating my beliefs.
By the way. If my kid came out as gay or lesbian, I wouldn't care and would still love and support them either way. I want them to figure that shit out on their own, not be shaped to believe they are that way growing up.
Yes, I don't see why not. I don't see the issue, I think the question would be more whats toughts exactly run in your head if... the people who say no why not exactly what are you thinking.
Because people like that more often than not are not normal and well adjusted and especially LOVE to tell others the "right" way to think and act. You see it all the time in California. Drag queen library events and Queer Kid Stuff on YouTube.
I'm not against consenting adults doing whatever they want, but unless I knew the people well, I wouldn't risk my kids being told they're "wrong and evil" for being white (or half white for them, since I'm not white, but their mom could potentially be), or straight, or "CIS gendered." I think there are more normal, well adjusted gay couples in modern society, but not so much with transpeople. I've never met a sane, well adjusted transperson before, assuming such a thing was even possible. So no, I wouldn't take a risk.
@MCheetah Absolutely well said! I'm not going to risk my children getting their minds corrupted by people who clearly aren't right in their head
Yes my daughter does.
also my sister lives with a girl, so like not an issue.
rather that than same sex abusive or alcoholic parents etc.
itās the couple and what they are like thatās important, not the sexuality.
I appreciate in some backwards countries people assume itās contagious.
I wouldnāt care what the parents are like unless they are really very horrible my kid can go to whoeverās house they like as long as they would stick to the rules I give them like being polite and so on transgender, same sex parents are still parents I think they are some of the strongest parents there are because they can get so much shit said to them and they fight back which is badass and I would want my kid around badass people
The parents don't necessarily make the kid and they can be quite different. However if they had the same aspects of their parents I might consider it. I'd have to meet the parents and the kid.
Same sex PARENTS is not a thing.
Dick in the butt doesn't make children nor does rubbing pussies.
That's probably the only thing I'll never be ok with when it comes to homo rights.
So I assume if their friend has adoptive parents, you wouldn't be okay with that either. Cause those are absolutely not that child's PARENTS because they didn't create it by having sex together, right?
@snackthatsmilesback Braindead point. The fact is about the family being one male and one woman.
Imagine the kid growing up and finally (inevitable) finding out that a kid needs a man and a woman to be born. He looks at his "dads" and inevitably asks them: "where is my mother?" congratz, your being a dimwitted do-gooder just traumatized a child. Do you still feel good about yourself?
Lol you know the recommend Age for telling kids they're adopted is like 8 right? If they ask sooner just tell them sooner. The kid finding out their birth parents aren't around isn't gonna fuck em up with a gay couple any more than with a straight couple as adopted parents. It's fine if you don't like adoption but if you're fine with that I'd like a reason you don't like same-sex adoption specifically. Cause so far your reasoning applies to bothāand/or to single parents.
@snackthatsmilesback The lack of both figures in the familiar scape, that's the problem.
The fact that gay people have demonstrated to want their children to be like them, at the point of having them dress up or administering hormones to change them. THere have been stuff nothing short of barbaric coming from gay couples trying to play family, and if already straight couples sometimes fuck it up majorly, we don't need any more ways to ruin a child's earlier years.
8 years is not nearly old enough to determine anything, even their own sexual orientation often times. If a kid has to be given to a gay couple, they shouldn't any younger than 15 or 16 years old, when they are already at least determined the basics for themselves. At least that's what I think.
So you don't like single parents. Cool.
Most happy married straight parents of people I met also want their children to be like them, at the point of having them dress up only as their biological gender. Gay parents actually are much more willing to let the child wear what they want in my experience. And giving a child hormones is NOT normal for gay parents that's just the handful of very extreme cases. If it was anywhere near normal it would not be fucking newsworthy. And 8 is old enough to be told they are adopted. That's the recommended age for that. Nothing else. You would really rather a child be deprived of any stability and parental figure for 15 years than for it to grow up with 2 adults (vetted by adoption agency) of the same gender?
@snackthatsmilesback They SHOULD dress up as their biological gender. What are you even trying to say, that crossdressing should be normalized? Please. That's a kink. A sexual thing, and should be held in the privacy of the house. Don't even try making a point based on sexual kinks.
And yes, I'd not give a child to a gay couple NOR a single parent for the same exact reason. A normal family is needed for stability and correct educational processes, as the style, and demeanor of men and women in the act of educating is very much different and both are needed. I would NOT, therefore, give a child to a family lacking one of the parental figures. Which implies single parents, regardless of their being gay or not.
A 10 year old kid wearing kids clothes is NEVER sexual, regardless if their gender matches the isle they got the outfit from. What the fuck is wrong with you?
For adoption ig that's fair. Thats a good reason. You're right a (good) parent of both genders would be the ideal for any child, whether the alternative is single or same sex parents (though i would say at least 2 parents is better than 1 that doesn't make a big difference to this discussion).
How about for biological parents where only one parent wants the child? And either raises it alone or has a same sex partner who raises it with them? There isn't the option here like there was with adoption, so while not ideal it is the best their biological parent can provide for the child. Do you dislike parents like that as well?
@snackthatsmilesback It's a matter of responsability. If the woman's pregnant, the responsability is equally shared between man and woman. If one of the two doesn't want the child, tough titty. Next time learn to use contraception, but for once in their life they should rise to the challenge and stop playing at dodging their duties. Especially when they are "at fault" for what happened.
If the question was to go on the abortion debacle, I'm totally against it, unless we are talking rape.
I can stomach abortion in THAT case, but chemical castration should be administered switfly to the perpetrator.
And a 10 years old SHOULD'T ever be sexual. But ask to people like Epstein & Co. or certain priests if that was the case. Better safe than sorry, dude. Never trust what should and shouldn't be.
Yeah but either parents can get out of responsibility by leaving the kid to the other parent. Mom could leave the baby with dad and skip. Dad could leave the baby to mom and skip. If the remaining parent happens to be bisexual they might end up finding a same sex partner to raise the kid with, or or if they're straight there's always the possibility they never find another partner to raise the kid with. I'm talking about after the child is born I don't wanna talk about abortion cause I don't care about that unless it's my child. People who find 10yos sexy are gonna do that no matter what they wear. The biggest danger of letting your kid wear other gendered clothes is the other straight parents' kids who would attack your kid for it. Sexual predators are a problem for every kid.
@snackthatsmilesback Agreed on the issue of the sexual predators, but nudging their appetite by crossdressing them is dumb and dumber. You're listing a good amount of potential cases, but if we go by cases, we're never gonna end this debate. The juice of it all is that a kid needs a mother and a father, with a head on their shoulders. Two males can't do the job well enough, two females the very same, a single parent the exact same. Are we in agreement on this?
Why would a sex predator be any more attracted to a boy in girls clothes than a girl in girls clothes, or vice versa?
They may not do the job as well as a good married hasband/wife, but i think they can do well enough to raise a good kid if they're a good parent, even if they're alone or missing one gender. Unfortunately there aren't enough of the best conditions for all the kids so just good conditions have to do a lot of the time.
@snackthatsmilesback Good, glad we could come to some sort of final agreement.
With obvious "ifs" and "buts" considered the diametrally opposite point of start, but otherwise pretty close. I like it when you can TALK to people instead of directly getting to insulting with no debate.
Yeah that's nice. I'm glad you had reasons could answer stuff I don't like when people say stuff and refuse to give reasons.
@snackthatsmilesback That wouldn't make sense. Following a bandwagon without as much as ONE thought is equiparable to a sheep into a flock. Oh, but that's standard these days. I forgot.
Have a nice one, pleasure talking with you.
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