For those against abortion, what is the answer to these three questions?

[Anonymous]

[Archerer]

Lol, you think they have the intelligence to answer those questions?

[Asker]

Haha... I just thought I would give it a try!

[PositiveNote]

Shoud be:
Yes. Yes. and, Yes.

[nightdrot]

Yes, yes, and yes.

In fact, to take the last first, the woman is covered by health insurance. A woman is covered by her health insurance for the costs of carrying the child. (Medicaid if said woman qualifies for that program.) Further, individuals who have killed a pregnant women's fetus are charged with murder and the woman may be compensated.

Obviously, if the woman aborts her own child, then she could not collect life insurance money. After all, they don't financially reward people who commit murder. The principle is the same.

As to child support. Again yes. A man can be sued for medical and other support once paternity is determined. Given the limits of technology and medicine, paternity generally cannot be determined until the child is born and the man must pay compensation retroactively. However, again, this is a principle already extant in the laws of most states. (Please note, these issues are covered by state and local laws. There is no Federal jurisdiction.)

As to deportation - there is limited Federal law in this area. If a woman is here legally, she and her unborn child are assumed to share the status. As there is no way to determine when - and therefore where - a child was conceived, the child's status is assumed to be the same as his/her mother's. Therefore, if the mother is here illegally, the child is assumed to hold the same legal status.

This last is interesting, however. Take it to its logical conclusion and after the child is born, the mother could be sent back and the child allowed to remain. Not sure this is where the esteemed professor wants to go, but she would do well to consider the implications of her own reasoning. That said, the law in this area is based on the limitations of science.

However, even here, if an American male citizen claims paternity, he may petition the court to allow the mother to remain in country - child and all. So even in such cases, given the limits of science, the law makes allowance.

Plus, it would be amusing to take this a step further. The illegal immigrant woman uses the legal status of her child to claim she gets to remain in the States. At that point must she then not forfeit the legal right to abort? After all, the instant she does, back to her home country she goes - this point also conceding the humanity of the fetus. Thus abortion for immigrants is banned through the back door and the legality - let alone morality - of abortion on demand is called into question.

Bottom line, not sure of Professor Chatman's area of specialty in law. However, it does not take much to research these questions. The law - again allowing for the limits of medical science and technology - does accommodate these questions and implicitly, where not explicitly, concedes the humanity of the fetus. Thus making the justification for abortion on demand highly problematic.

[Miristheiss]

Child support?

The mom's body is feeding them and they don't need clothes yet. No extra money is needed.

A child has no bearing on deportation. If someone sneaks across our border and is an illegal and they give birth... the mom is still an illegal alien, get her the hell out.
The kids usually stays with the parent so they'll go wherever mom goes.

If I'm traveling while pregnant and give birth while I'm in France or Italy. I don't immediately get to demand I get to spend the rest of my life in France or Italy because I had a kid the 2 weeks I was traveling over there. These arguments are MORONIC. You don't even realize how STUPID you sound.

I honestly don't know... can you have life insurance on a 2 year old? I was under the impression it was available for working, productive adults that earn money. Can you get life insurance for minors and dependents?

[Dragonpurple]

Many states do allow for the mother to go to court and get the father to pay for half the medical care and other expenses during the pregnancy and even half the birthing cost and hospital medical bills. One could say a type of support already exist.

As for deportation, that is answered by the constitution. It states born, just cause a person is considered a person before they are born, they'll just have to wait until then... barring a constitutional amendment.

These days you can insure just about anything, so I imagine you could get a life insurance policy on the child.

[NYCQuestions1976]

I'm morally pro-life and legally pro-choice.

1.) Well, if the parents are together, or the mother decides to have the child without the father's knowledge (not putting the father's name on the birth certificate), then there is no child support.

2.) There's only two things that determine if the fetus will be a citizen of the United States: A.) Where the child is born (regardless of parental citizenship); or B.) If one of the two parents is a citizen of the United States. If neither parent is a citizen of the United States, then it doesn't matter where the child is conceived... only where child is born.

3.) People (usually athletes and performers) take out insurance policies on their bodies all the time. As an example, Jennifer Lopez has (or had at one time) an insurance policy on her legs. I'm pretty sure you can probably do the same thing with a fetus, if you have the money to spend on such a policy.

[NYCQuestions1976]

As a law professor making these comments, Carliss Chatman should know these things.

[anylolone]

The child support begins at birth, before there's provisions for medical support for the woman, as you can't support the child directly.

Nope, you become a US citizen by being born in the US, not by being in the US, so you can deport the mother.

If you can get an insurance company that will ensure, of course, premium gonna likely be high, but usually the kid needs to be 14 days or older. It's not that they don't consider it alive, they just don't consider it insurable.

And I'm not even in favor of the law, by the way, I'd make it third trimester.

[Anonymous]

Well that’s some ridiculous questions isn’t it? Either that or you believe that abortion should be legal up until the second they’re born right. Anyway, I don’t know where you live but where I live you can have insurance for the baby while the woman is pregnant and they pay out a set sum of life insurance if miscarriage were to happen. Child support isn’t needed because the child doesn’t have any expenses while still in the uterus (any expenses related to the pregnancy is the womans expenses, not the baby’s). And actually, a pregnant woman won’t be deported from here if the paternity is decided and reported to the authorities (this can be done before birth if the parents file the paper work beforehand) and the father is a citizen. So there you go.

[Archerer]

I somewhat agree with most of this except "any expenses related to the pregnancy is the womans expenses, not the baby" If that were true, you should agree abortions should be legal (which I am not sure you don't)

[joeldalton]

1) The child has support, the uterus and placenta are the support system already in place.
2) US Citizenship law applies to born individuals.
3) The mother has medical insurance.

Why is a law professor so stupid? Let's go all-in with her idiocy. If a pregnant woman commits a crime, the fetus should be charged as an accessory.

[Archerer]

Look at this fucking idiots answers lmao

[Archerer]

1) Admits human autonomy
2) Admits fetuses aren't people
3) Doesn't understand medical insurance, especially American medical insurance

You really crack me up man, I love seeing your posts I thank you wholeheartedly for the show

[joeldalton]

@Archerer nice try.

[Archerer]

Ok lets keep the show going dude! What's next on the ballot? Can't wait to hear from you, love ya!

[joeldalton]

@Archerer Sure let's talk about how ironic it is that the people most eager for abortions are also the ones who claim the unvaxxinated should be denied healthcare because they "made their choice", but somehow someone who "made their choice" to get pregnant shouldn't have any responsibility for their actions

[Archerer]

Yes, lets talk about that. How many women "chose" to get pregnant who want abortions? Almost 0. The ones who did, only want abortions because their child would have horrible retardation, health problems, or would kill them. Don't pretend like every time you have sex you "chose" to have a baby, you hilarious human.

[joeldalton]

@Archerer Someone going into a store unvaxxed didn't "choose" to get covid, either. But it's a distinct possibility of outcomes.

[Archerer]

So you think getting pregnant is the same as not trusting science and putting yourself in danger to get a virus? Your mental gymnastics is fascinating! Please go on Joe

[Archerer]

I guess you think someone who is unvaxxed DOES deserve healthcare, and priority at that, when there are hospitals overrun, even though there are others who actually TRUST doctors, and don't just want "thoughts and prayers" BUT a woman does NOT deserve it, who wants an abortion for a child that was concepted underage as rape? Please please give me your thoughts

[joeldalton]

@Archerer Isn't it science that ejaculating inside a woman has a potential for pregnancy? Or do you think that's magic?

[Archerer]

No, science will tell you it depends. Is he infertile? Is she? Is she ovulating? Are they using contraception?

[Archerer]

Keep going, don't leave it there man

[joeldalton]

@Archerer weird you mention birth control. what's the effectiveness of it? Was that science too?

[Archerer]

No, it was witchcraft lmao

[joeldalton]

@Archerer Waiting. What's the effectiveness of various forms of birth control?

[Archerer]

Depends on how hard you pray

[joeldalton]

@Archerer You're presenting yourself as some intellectually superior member of humanity. Surely that should be easy information for you to find.

[Archerer]

Ok dude you are boring me, you know when you bore me I just stop, get to your point.

[joeldalton]

@Archerer ok, I get it.

[Boppy]

let's compromise
mask mandate + condom mandate

[TheMijopapii]

I am not against abortion but this biich is blatantly trying to compare. Life to her political agendas. I don't think it is right to kill a baby but I also believe the government has no right to tell anyone what to do but remember abortions are still taking a life.

[FoghornLeghorn99]

Simple answer to abortion... all three questions.
Don't get pregnant if you don't want a kid.
Enough with the politics.

How about if a father doesn't want the responsibilty of a kid, he can choose not to pay child support?

For a law professor she is using pretzel logic. She is nothing more than a petulant child.

Oh, by the way. Where was that unborn baby conceived? That is where it is a citizen. LOL!!!

[Anonymous]

Other than the citizenship question, I don't have a problem with anything here. On the citizenship question, that's a matter of legal red tape. Yes, the father should at least be partially responsible for any care related to the pregnancy. Yes, you should be able to insure against a miscarriage.

[Anonymous]

Child support starts when the father leaves the mother. Depends, did she conceive in the US or outside the US. I don't know, I don't work in the insurance industry; but I would be surprised if you couldn't get a quote on that.

[loveslongnails]

Well surprise, surprise. Insurance companies will NOT insure a fetus because guess why -- they don't consider it a viable human being yet !!! Hmmm, employers in Texas should now be required to offer "fetal insurance" I suppose.

[Opinion Owner]

@loveslongnails Have you tried Loyd's of London; they insure just about anything?

[Anonymous]

Any excuse to murder an innocent baby.
The hypocrisy is nauseating.
You'd rather save a convicted mass murderer from death row before considering the baby's life.

[ManHater]

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[Unpersuadable]

Nope, nope and if you are prepared to pay the premiums and the insurance company isn't forced to take you on as a client by a government body.

[Jayplays900]

Okay, so..

Don't care.
That's my answer. Kill everyone. That way we are all equal.

[Anonymous]

Can't really blame the fetus when it was conceived in the first place. Just saying.

[Hanmakevy]

You people who are pro choice don’t deserve to have sex

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

I'm not going to answer such stupidity.