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Should it be illegal for a Baker to refuse to make a wedding cake for a Homosexual or Transgender couple? (Page 3)
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No. Let the homo go to a baker who supports his lifestyle and leave people who don't alone.
No but it is discriminatory. The gay couple should find another baker to go to if that's the case
It’s their choice but in the end I think it would hurt their business.
Yes. There should absolutely be non-discrimination laws - including sexual orientation - on private companies.
And here in the Netherlands it absolutely is completely illegal for a private firm to discriminate based on anything related to sexual orientation. It would be very much illegal to even store such data
No, if it's their business they're entitled to bake whatever they want and to refuse some clients.
Any business owner should have the right to refuse to serve anyone for any reason or no reason at all.
I think there's wisdom in not serving clients you hate and being able to refuse business should be your perogative, but the big problem comes when huge groups, whole towns or even everyone doesn't serve gays. Where do you draw the line?
@224466881010 You don't. If an individual doesn't want to serve another individual that's fine. The customer can take his/her business elsewhere.
For government to FORCE people to serve others is absolutely wrong.
Ok so that's very interesting. You're arguing that there is no circumstance in which a governing body should be allowed to compel you to serve someone you don't feel like serving. Ok. You're pretty much saying you oppose all laws against discrimination. Does that apply to doctors? What if your nation is significantly weaker when it's peoples can't coexist and is therefore threatened by other nations? I'm not trying to shut you down. I'm legitimately interested in whether discrimination laws have a leg to stand on, and what's your best argument for why not.
@224466881010 Yes I am. I don't think any business should be compelled to serve anyone because the "government says so".
Ok fair. What is the root of that conviction?
@224466881010 Because government is run by people who are seeking power and not necessarily interested in following the law or larger and long term interest if the country. Law is about power, not "fair" unfortunately.
I get that.
Let's imagine the government isn't just after power for a second, and assume the government was actually democratic and set on serving the people's interests. Let's imagine you were the president and you were in charge. Would you make discrimination laws? If not, why?
I think that should depend on the outlandishness of the cake. If they just want a regular cake I don't see a problem.
Ridiculous. That’s 100 percent their personal choice. Doesn’t mean everyone has to agree with it, but to suggest criminalizing something of that nature is beyond insanity.
No absolutely not don't force your beliefs on other people
I think they should make the cake anyway. It looks lovely.
No one should be force to do something they don't want. But in a kind caring way say sorry but no.
Yes if facebook can ban you for being a conservative.
For a gay couple, yes, but refusing a theme is up to the baker.
What gay person doesn’t know how to bake? your embarrassing your people
no it's their business they can service to who they want and don't want to since they pay the bills and the paychecks to the employees
If the person calls and orders the cake and when they come the shop is closed than... I don't know.
Slippery slopes.
I don't like gay people at all.. but id be weary of turning people away
No. Its his business.
Nope it shouldn't be illegal
Just go to another bakery if one business if refusing to bake a LGBQT cake. Don’t waste your time whining