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worst movement ever. I feel like I need them and their aren't enough of them.
The damage has already been done. It will be a long time until people that live in Democratic run cities will feel safe in their homes again.
it has not been getting better from what i have seen. cops are still acting the same way and still hurting innocent people too. i am not a fan of the police but we do need them i think for certain things.
everything fades trump supporters are fading and going back to their caves liberals are fading with their BLM etc protests
Has this ever actually been policy anywhere? It was a way to talk about hiring good police officers for a change. Not assholes seeking authority.
Yes. Several dozen big cities around the country cut major funds from their police departments and laid off lots of cops. NYC alone cut $1B from their police budget. In a shocking surprise, crime skyrocketed, people freaked, and NYC is now frantically trying to hire police again. Portland, Minneapolis, Seattle, San Francisco, Oakland, Los Angeles, Madison, and other cities all did this, and have all since reversed it - and in the end, it's cost the taxpayers in those cities a ton of money (it costs a lot more to fire, recruit, and train than it does to retain specialized employees), and that's not counting all of the costs of the crime itself.
@MrOracle I don't know, seems like right wingers are claiming this when it’s only ebb and flow of city politics.
www.cityandstateny.com/.../
I mean lets consider both sides before defunding the police
The police are mostly a reflection of city and state governments. And hence, corrupt or inept. Couldn't care less if they get defunded.
Yet, who do you call when your home gets burglarized, you robbed, you bartered, etc.
I know your type, you say you “don’t care” but then you all call the police.
Nice name by the way, even though it doesn’t reflect what you just wrote.
14% of burglaries in the USA typically get solved by arrests. www.statista.com/.../
People call the police because they need some documentation for insurance. So they're basically just helping Jake from State Farm, not being a cop or fighting crime.
You want to talk real talk? Cops were on scene for the Parkland Massacre. They stood back and let the killing go on while unarmed teenagers were getting slaughtered. They were also on scene for the Las Vegas Massacre and stood back and let the killing go on.
Would you like pictures from the 2016 election season where cops were standing back and watching people get beat down in the streets for wearing the wrong candidate's logo? Perhaps you'd like video from innumerable riots where police stand back and let thugs attack people, drag them out of cars and beat them? Or where they retreat and let scum torch cities 2020 as if this was a combat zone in Afganistan?
You’d like to simply think cops were like “yeah, let’s stand by and let these kids get killed” right?
You don’t know all the details of these incidents, but you’d like to think certain things of them because they fit whatever narrative you believe in
“Cops are corrupt/evil and a reflection of government officials (which are corrupt and evil.”
So, when you see cops “standing by while kids get slaughtered” you don’t look into the details of the before or after, rather, take that as PROOF cops are how you describe them to be or believe them to be.
There’s so much hyperbole, misinformation, and outright LIES revolving around VIRAL police incidents
-Las Vegas shooting
-Parkland school shooting
-Mike Brown shooting
Etc.
It’s nearly IMPOSSIBLE to parce out REAL FACTS
Political right and left can basically interpret these events however they want to SERVE their gains.
These incidents serve as election fodder unfortunately.
You, for example, will interpret these things differently than what someone of the reverse side will.
Who is right? Tough to say
Either way, you and everyone else calls the cops whenever you need them.
I’ve seen it too many times by people seemingly more passionate in their anti-cop rhetoric.
You name it
-fights
-assaults
-threats
-arguments w/ their neighbor
Etc.
You and many of these people actually do not know how to settle disputes and/or fight out of tough situations.
Which is why you call the cops ultimately.
You can try to spin it however you want. But the Parkland Massacre literally had a cop on site who then hid instead of trying to save lives. More cops showed up and hid like useless cowards. A second department finally showed up and actually went in. And at the Las Vegas Massacre, police arrived quickly to the scene, and then refused to take any action.
Police are great at take your statement for insurance after a burglary or car accident. But the real facts show that if lives are on the line, police are happy to wait outside while people get slaughtered.
The simple fact is, if your family member
The simple fact is that if your family member was at the site of a mass shooting, it wouldn't matter how quickly police got there or if they were already there when the shooting started. The police are not going to protect you or save you from danger. You can try to lamely justify it, but reality is reality.
Abolish the slave catchers. Nazis be damned
Defund police is lawlessness
they work for us on the streets day and night