Who fucking cares? They're people and that's all that should matter but of course racists are begging to put them in categories with their own prejudices included because they have to determine if someone is oppressed or not.
I figured it was a European thing it is just weird for me to see a white person discriminating against another white person like watching a Guatemalan discrimate against a Colombian itâs made me believe that even if racism didnât exist people would still find reasons to hate each other even if we were all the same color
I think a lot of them are mixed. There were a woman and her son working for my boy friendâs restaurant. I couldnât tell she was Italian. I was so sure she was Hispanic.
The Maori people as in from New Zealand/Australia? What the hell do they have to do with Europe? I have visited every country in Europe several times and never met a Maori!
@Gal67 thatâs a negative sir the southeast Asians originated from the Maori people who also came from Africa via the Middle East and as I previously stated they share they same ancestors with Caucasians and this being the case the earliest europeans had dark skin and blue eyes Iâm not saying they were black but they were definitely brown and did you guys watch the video that enema joke was a good one cmonđ
@AllThatSweetJazz In a way we are all Mankind originated from Africa do a little research the traits and characteristics we have now that makes us look different are the results of a mutated genome that originated from africa ever been to New Mexico tons of people there look very white but theyâre about as Mexican as you can be the aryan people that you call white their ancestors originated from Africa and migrated to the Middle East and parts of Eastern Asia human bodies are made to adapt and evolve mutated genes made white , Indians and orientals they all share the same ancestors
Because it means white people arenât white either. The entire question evaporates. There would therefore be no ârealâ white people because there would be only Africans and no one else.
@AllThatSweetJazz that depends on what you consider a real white person because anyone can be white and anyone can be black except two white people can't make a black baby but two black people can make a white baby
It's completely absurd, because after ~50.000 years nothing resembles the Maoris with "the Europeans". Just see the differences various settler groups in Russia have with their home countries after only four generations (~100 years). Your example is simply ridiculous.
@DryGermanGuy Iâm not gonna sit here and try to convince you either you want to know the truth or you donât you Can say itâs absurd all you want but people who dedicate their lives to stuff like this say thatâs what happened if you donât believe it fine but donât say itâs not true if you donât have evidence to say otherwise
@Gal67 đ wow so original âsomeone doesnât agree with me and theyâre defending their statements with facts and logic reasoning so theyâre trolling â get bent weirdo đ
Facts? Logic? Where? You haven't said anything logical or factual thus far. All I've seen here are claims, and unsubstantiated ones at that! Go troll elsewhere!
Actually they weren't considered white in America until sometime after the slaves were set free. Some old guy I was listening to said it was only because of that. I'll leave it at that. The Italys and the Irish.
Hey I donât know how this is coming off to you but let me just say I have nothing against Italians I have many Italian cousins in Ohio and it bothered me that even though theyâre white other white people would see them as inferior like how black people would treat a lighskinned black person I heard this Cuban woman talk about how her stepdad was unfair and mistreated her because her skin was darker than her siblings but they were all Cuban and it was just messed up to me itâs fucked up
Ok I was really thinking that you had something against Italians. I'm glad you don't. I'm black and I feel that I need to explain you something. It's not that we see light skinned black people as inferior. What happens is that some dark skinned black people see the light skinned ones as superior and some light skinned blacks also see themselves as superior. What this woman was experiencing was something called colorism which is a form of racism.
I knew why black people didnât like them during slavery because the lighter skinned ones got special treatment because they were white so black people didnât like them and they werenât fully white so white people didnât like them it ironic to me because youâd think someone who is both would be accepted by both
Well Iâm asking because a lot of the immigrants that werenât Italian would say otherwise and I kinda still see it today like thereâs a bit of discrimination in the Caucasian community it reminded me of how Africans treat African Americans like theyâre both black but they donât really like the American black people itâs weird to me
And you shouldnât but I mean why the hate though is there a type of white person italians do not like was there some type of preexisting feud beforehand
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I love the fact that Italians exist, because they confuse the racists. 🍿🍿
What exactly are you implying đ about Italians?
Imply whatever you want haha.
But Italians are my peoples lol. So you better not be talking shit about my friends. đ
Who fucking cares? They're people and that's all that should matter but of course racists are begging to put them in categories with their own prejudices included because they have to determine if someone is oppressed or not.
Thatâs a bad attitude to have about it
It is and it needs to go or else history will repeat itself yet again.
They are white, like any other European countries around Italy
I figured it was a European thing it is just weird for me to see a white person discriminating against another white person like watching a Guatemalan discrimate against a Colombian itâs made me believe that even if racism didnât exist people would still find reasons to hate each other even if we were all the same color
I think a lot of them are mixed. There were a woman and her son working for my boy friendâs restaurant. I couldnât tell she was Italian. I was so sure she was Hispanic.
Of course they are what you're thinking of are Sicilians
Italians are spicy white.
Lmfao
Yes because theyâre European.
So are the Maori people and Spanish theyâre not white
Iâm not familiar with MÄori, but people from Spain are definitely white. Many of them even have blonde hair.
The Maori aren't European. They live as far away from Europe as you can possibly get.
@Gal67 they come from Indian originally and a great deal of them still live in Europe and they share the same ancestors with Caucasians
The Maori people as in from New Zealand/Australia? What the hell do they have to do with Europe? I have visited every country in Europe several times and never met a Maori!
They originally came from SouthEast Asia, not India.
@Gal67 thatâs a negative sir the southeast Asians originated from the Maori people who also came from Africa via the Middle East and as I previously stated they share they same ancestors with Caucasians and this being the case the earliest europeans had dark skin and blue eyes Iâm not saying they were black but they were definitely brown and did you guys watch the video that enema joke was a good one cmonđ
That's nonsense. At that point why don't you just say we're all African if you go back far enough?
@AllThatSweetJazz In a way we are all Mankind originated from Africa do a little research the traits and characteristics we have now that makes us look different are the results of a mutated genome that originated from africa ever been to New Mexico tons of people there look very white but theyâre about as Mexican as you can be the aryan people that you call white their ancestors originated from Africa and migrated to the Middle East and parts of Eastern Asia human bodies are made to adapt and evolve mutated genes made white , Indians and orientals they all share the same ancestors
Yes... That's what *I'm* saying... and it's to illustrate that you're being ridiculous by tracing lineage too far back to the point of absurdity.
@AllThatSweetJazz whats absurd about it though
Because it means white people arenât white either. The entire question evaporates. There would therefore be no ârealâ white people because there would be only Africans and no one else.
@AllThatSweetJazz that depends on what you consider a real white person because anyone can be white and anyone can be black except two white people can't make a black baby but two black people can make a white baby
It's completely absurd, because after ~50.000 years nothing resembles the Maoris with "the Europeans". Just see the differences various settler groups in Russia have with their home countries after only four generations (~100 years). Your example is simply ridiculous.
@DryGermanGuy Iâm not gonna sit here and try to convince you either you want to know the truth or you donât you Can say itâs absurd all you want but people who dedicate their lives to stuff like this say thatâs what happened if you donât believe it fine but donât say itâs not true if you donât have evidence to say otherwise
You could not be more wrong. South-East Asians didn't come from the Maoris! You've got it backwards.
"two white people can't make a black baby but two black people can make a white baby"
What the hell? Are you on drugs? You're completely deluded.
@Gal67 Ben and Angela Ihegboro look it up genius
Albinos are rare, but they do occur. What's your point? Why am I even wasting my time here? It's clear to me you're just trolling.
@Gal67 đ wow so original âsomeone doesnât agree with me and theyâre defending their statements with facts and logic reasoning so theyâre trolling â get bent weirdo đ
Facts? Logic? Where? You haven't said anything logical or factual thus far. All I've seen here are claims, and unsubstantiated ones at that!
Go troll elsewhere!
@Gal67 someone is triggered youâre welcome to leave friend and block me since Iâm allegedly trolling đ
I'm not "triggered", I'm exasperated. There's a difference.
@Gal67 donât care
I know you don't care; about the truth, what's actually real, and not being stubborn. What else don't you care about? I'm guessing lots of things.
How about let's try fleshing out just how deep this stupidity runs.
So Maori are mostly from southeast Asia, and supposedly they're European, so does that mean all Asians are European?
"Race" is a series of arbitrary phenotypes which have no meaning in the scientific community.
It's whatever you want it to be, it's made up nonsense.
Okay , and we are talking about Italians
There is no white, there is no black, there is only homo sapiens.
Yeah tell that to Michael Jackson đ
His opinions do not change reality. Facts do not care about feelings.
Okay
Fuck man please don't say that, you sound like my ex who was like a fucking wall to talk to.
I have PTSD from "okay", "alright" and so on đ¤§
Sorry to hear that my guy is this better đł
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Of course they are, if not what are they?
By the way, if you go to Northern Italy you'll find people with blue eyes and blond hair.
Iâm asking because I mainly hear other white people saying that
Actually they weren't considered white in America until sometime after the slaves were set free. Some old guy I was listening to said it was only because of that. I'll leave it at that. The Italys and the Irish.
@GaGirls Yea they received some pretty harsh discrimination
I see. Well, I've never heard white people saying that and I live in Europe.
@GaGirls So that's why Italians and Irish were discriminated in the US. I never understood that.
@ your update Yes I knew that Alicia Key's mother is of Italian descent as well as Halsey's mother. And Halsey looks pretty white to me.
But Giancarlo come on he is literally playing a Hispanic warlord on farcry and he very Italian he has the most Italianiest names Iâve ever heard
That's because his mother was black. If he was the son of two Italians he would be white.
What about John and Nicholas turturro theyâre pretty dark and they have Italian parents Jennifer Esposito too
Iâm just saying itâs weird and I didnât know that white people made racial slurs against Italians like why would they do that?
Jennifer Esposito is pretty white and the Turturro brothers have tanned skin not brown. They're all white.
I mean yea next to queen latifah she looks very white next to jimmy fallon not so much
Maybe because they thought Italians were inferior.
She's white everywhere in my opinion.
Does he look white to you?
He looks whiter than Esposito it turturros
I meant or
Yes he does and he's Italian. Born and raised in Italy.
Hey I donât know how this is coming off to you but let me just say I have nothing against Italians I have many Italian cousins in Ohio and it bothered me that even though theyâre white other white people would see them as inferior like how black people would treat a lighskinned black person I heard this Cuban woman talk about how her stepdad was unfair and mistreated her because her skin was darker than her siblings but they were all Cuban and it was just messed up to me itâs fucked up
Ok I was really thinking that you had something against Italians. I'm glad you don't.
I'm black and I feel that I need to explain you something. It's not that we see light skinned black people as inferior. What happens is that some dark skinned black people see the light skinned ones as superior and some light skinned blacks also see themselves as superior.
What this woman was experiencing was something called colorism which is a form of racism.
I mean, her father.
Her stepdad and I do agree that it makes no sense.
I knew why black people didnât like them during slavery because the lighter skinned ones got special treatment because they were white so black people didnât like them and they werenât fully white so white people didnât like them it ironic to me because youâd think someone who is both would be accepted by both
That's also true. In some places there are still dark skinned blacks who don't like light skinned blacks. Yes it's weird and humans are weird.
Yes, we are. Are the Irish real white people?
Well Iâm asking because a lot of the immigrants that werenât Italian would say otherwise and I kinda still see it today like thereâs a bit of discrimination in the Caucasian community it reminded me of how Africans treat African Americans like theyâre both black but they donât really like the American black people itâs weird to me
I don't give a shit what other immigrants have to say about us.
And you shouldnât but I mean why the hate though is there a type of white person italians do not like was there some type of preexisting feud beforehand
Not really except the Irish and Italians in this country have never gotten along well.
Thatâs so weird
Of course they are. What else would they be?
If you're full Italian, then you're Caucasian.
Italians are the pastiest crackers ever conceived.
Sicilians are pretty dark but still white
No they're Europians, they don't have the concept of black and white unlike Americans
Yeah they do
Of course.